weather for pilots?

[Qzectb]

Are there readers in this newsgroup who have a strong interest in
weather as it relates to aviation? I don't mean just the stuff you
need to get from point A to B safely or to pass your written but
deeper knowledge -- where and why does icing occur? The physics of
thunderstorms? Turbulence? Fog and clouds? How are aviation
forecasts prepared? What is the technology behind automated weather
observations? And how about the meteorological research aircraft that
penetrate hurricanes?

In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
pilot. Does such a book already exist?

I'm both a pilot and a professor of meteorology, and I have already
written a couple of successful college textbooks. I've been thinking
about the above book as my next possible project, but would only
bother if I had a sense that there was real interest.

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

Qzectb > wrote in news:71fded30-187f-4251-b1be-
:

>
> Are there readers in this newsgroup who have a strong interest in
> weather as it relates to aviation? I don't mean just the stuff you
> need to get from point A to B safely or to pass your written but
> deeper knowledge -- where and why does icing occur?


Cold wing, wet outside.


The physics of
> thunderstorms?


Plenty of moisture high lapse rate.


Turbulence?

Air moving around for various reasons.


Fog and clouds?


more moistrue than the air can hold.

How are aviation
> forecasts prepared?


Experience and various rules of thumb.


What is the technology behind automated weather
> observations?


Various. How long is a piece of string?

And how about the meteorological research aircraft that
> penetrate hurricanes?


Yes, the exist.
>
> In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
> that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
> pilot. Does such a book already exist?


Yes.

>
> I'm both a pilot and a professor of meteorology, and I have already
> written a couple of successful college textbooks. I've been thinking
> about the above book as my next possible project, but would only
> bother if I had a sense that there was real interest.
>

There might be. The FAA's publication is pretty skimpy and written at a
sixth grade level. The standard by which all others are measured i
Aviation Weather by Peter Lester. It's excellent if you have insomnia.
Also good for the nuts and bolts of meteorology.

Bertie



Bertie

[WingFlaps]

On May 7, 5:57*pm, Qzectb > wrote:

>
> In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
> that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
> pilot.
>

I've been told lon good authority that they only lurk here so there's
not much chance of you getting positive support for anything
scientific. If it gives you pleasure do it, but don't expect adulation
from the gallery.

Cheers

[Jay Honeck[_2_]]

> In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
> that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
> pilot. Does such a book already exist?

I would personally find such a book interesting.

Unfortunately, with pilot numbers dropping, I suspect your efforts wouldn't
get you on the NY Times best-seller list...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Tina]

You may find a wider potential market writing one for the lay public,
or even the traveling public. You'd need huge penetration of the GA
market to do well with a book aimed at us specifically.

Of course, if the book had a centerfold of a Stagger wing Beech. . . .



On May 7, 1:57 am, Qzectb > wrote:
> Are there readers in this newsgroup who have a strong interest in
> weather as it relates to aviation? I don't mean just the stuff you
> need to get from point A to B safely or to pass your written but
> deeper knowledge -- where and why does icing occur? The physics of
> thunderstorms? Turbulence? Fog and clouds? How are aviation
> forecasts prepared? What is the technology behind automated weather
> observations? And how about the meteorological research aircraft that
> penetrate hurricanes?
>
> In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
> that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
> pilot. Does such a book already exist?
>
> I'm both a pilot and a professor of meteorology, and I have already
> written a couple of successful college textbooks. I've been thinking
> about the above book as my next possible project, but would only
> bother if I had a sense that there was real interest.

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in
news:GKgUj.99403$TT4.8927@attbi_s22:

>> In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
>> that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
>> pilot. Does such a book already exist?
>
> I would personally find such a book interesting.
>

Bull****. the only weather book you're interested in is one that tells you
how to operate a gadget that absolves you from having to think.


Bertie

[Qzectb]

> Unfortunately, with pilot numbers dropping, I suspect your efforts wouldn't
> get you on the NY Times best-seller list...

If that were my goal, my book would be called "The Pictorial Kama
Sutra Guide to Losing Weight and Getting Rich"

[Jay Honeck[_2_]]

> If that were my goal, my book would be called "The Pictorial Kama
> Sutra Guide to Losing Weight and Getting Rich"

Hey...I'd buy that!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
.. .
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
> news:GKgUj.99403$TT4.8927@attbi_s22:
>
>>> In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
>>> that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
>>> pilot. Does such a book already exist?
>>
>> I would personally find such a book interesting.
>>
>
> Bull****. the only weather book you're interested in is one that tells you
> how to operate a gadget that absolves you from having to think.
>
>
> Bertie

And you couldn't understand the FAAs entry written at the 6th grade level.

[Qzectb]

On May 7, 7:06 am, Tina > wrote:
> You may find a wider potential market writing one for the lay public,
> or even the traveling public. You'd need huge penetration of the GA
> market to do well with a book aimed at us specifically.

Depends on how you define "doing well". Since I don't work through a
commercial publisher (and therefore keep a very high percentage of the
sale price of my books), a mere 1000 copies per year would make the
effort worthwhile from my point of view. What would that be as a
percentage of the GA market?

[Larry Dighera]

On Tue, 6 May 2008 22:57:53 -0700 (PDT), Qzectb >
wrote in
>:

>In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
>that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
>pilot. Does such a book already exist?

Perhaps.

How would the work you propose differ from this one:
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/6044a5c61fa9349585256a35006d56b2/c2df8d9d7471617786256a020078083a?OpenDocument&Highlight=2,00-45

[Bob Gardner]

Befor you go overboard, log onton www.chesavtraining.com to see what
meteorologist/flight instructor Scott Dennstaedt is doing. He writes for
several aviation publications and participates in web forums and backs up
what he says with scientific analysis (he worked in modeling for the NWS). I
understand that he is writing a book, and I will be first in line to buy it.

Bob Gardner

"Qzectb" > wrote in message
...
>
> Are there readers in this newsgroup who have a strong interest in
> weather as it relates to aviation? I don't mean just the stuff you
> need to get from point A to B safely or to pass your written but
> deeper knowledge -- where and why does icing occur? The physics of
> thunderstorms? Turbulence? Fog and clouds? How are aviation
> forecasts prepared? What is the technology behind automated weather
> observations? And how about the meteorological research aircraft that
> penetrate hurricanes?
>
> In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
> that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
> pilot. Does such a book already exist?
>
> I'm both a pilot and a professor of meteorology, and I have already
> written a couple of successful college textbooks. I've been thinking
> about the above book as my next possible project, but would only
> bother if I had a sense that there was real interest.
>
>
>

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
>> news:GKgUj.99403$TT4.8927@attbi_s22:
>>
>>>> In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
>>>> that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
>>>> pilot. Does such a book already exist?
>>>
>>> I would personally find such a book interesting.
>>>
>>
>> Bull****. the only weather book you're interested in is one that
>> tells you how to operate a gadget that absolves you from having to
>> think.
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> And you couldn't understand the FAAs entry written at the 6th grade
> level.
>
>
>
>

Yeh, that must be it, fjukktard.



Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in news:nLiUj.99556$TT4.42597
@attbi_s22:

>> If that were my goal, my book would be called "The Pictorial Kama
>> Sutra Guide to Losing Weight and Getting Rich"
>
> Hey...I'd buy that!
>
> ;-)

I know


Bertie

[Qzectb]

> Perhaps.
>
> How would the work you propose differ from this one:http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryC...

Well, nicer font for one. Oh, and it wouldn't read like an FAA
training manual but more like a commercial non-fiction book with at
least a little personality, real-life stories, anecdotes, case
studies, etc.

Other than that, the above document looks like it has some pretty
useful (if somewhat dated) information.

[Qzectb]

On May 7, 10:52 am, "Bob Gardner" > wrote:
> Befor you go overboard, log ontonwww.chesavtraining.comto see what
> meteorologist/flight instructor Scott Dennstaedt is doing. He writes for

Okay, that's the kind of heads-up I was looking for. Looks like he
knows his stuff.

Thanks...

[clint]

putme on your blue screen i want to be a blue guy!
Qzectb presented the following explanation :
> I'm both a pilot and a professor of meteorology,

[virtuPIC]

Why not have a look at http://www.airspace-v.com where you can find
METAR and TAF reports for many airports as well as Yahoo weather for
many locations worldwide. here you can also find NASA's MODIS image of
the day usually also showing some spectacular weather phenomeon.

If you get bored you can also play a little Tetriguli Jawbreaker
virtuPIC
--
Airspace V - international hangar flying!
http://www.airspace-v.com/ggadgets for tools & toys

[Ken S. Tucker]

On May 6, 10:57 pm, Qzectb > wrote:
> Are there readers in this newsgroup who have a strong interest in
> weather as it relates to aviation? I don't mean just the stuff you
> need to get from point A to B safely or to pass your written but
> deeper knowledge -- where and why does icing occur? The physics of
> thunderstorms? Turbulence? Fog and clouds? How are aviation
> forecasts prepared? What is the technology behind automated weather
> observations? And how about the meteorological research aircraft that
> penetrate hurricanes?
>
> In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
> that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
> pilot. Does such a book already exist?
>
> I'm both a pilot and a professor of meteorology, and I have already
> written a couple of successful college textbooks. I've been thinking
> about the above book as my next possible project, but would only
> bother if I had a sense that there was real interest.

Weather is to a pilot as water is to a fish.
(you may quote me ;-).

Understandably weather in ground school was quite
superficial, as pilots are generally not academically
inclined, where alot of algebra is concerned, however
they tend to think in visualizations so use diagrams,
and comics. Vectors and vector analysis (without
calculus) is as deep as I'd go with GA pilots.

One of my hobbies is to watch the contrails as they
fade for signs of turbulence. I live near the Rockies
and right inside an airway so lots of jets fly high over.
Also have a great view of final approach south into
Kelowna, going down the okenagan valley.
Ken

[Gene Seibel]

On May 6, 11:57*pm, Qzectb > wrote:
> Are there readers in this newsgroup who have a strong interest in
> weather as it relates to aviation? *I don't mean just the stuff you
> need to get from point A to B safely or to pass your written but
> deeper knowledge -- where and why does icing occur? *The physics of
> thunderstorms? *Turbulence? * Fog and clouds? *How are aviation
> forecasts prepared? *What is the technology behind automated weather
> observations? *And how about the meteorological research aircraft that
> penetrate hurricanes?
>
> In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
> that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
> pilot. *Does such a book already exist?
>
> I'm both a pilot and a professor of meteorology, and I have already
> written a couple of successful college textbooks. *I've been thinking
> about the above book as my next possible project, but would only
> bother if I had a sense that there was real interest.

Check out what's being done in video at http://www.convectionconnection.net/
--
Gene Seibel
Tales of Flight - http://pad39a.com/gene/tales.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

"Ken S. Tucker" > wrote in news:4f309f8d-a83f-
:

> On May 6, 10:57 pm, Qzectb > wrote:
>> Are there readers in this newsgroup who have a strong interest in
>> weather as it relates to aviation? I don't mean just the stuff you
>> need to get from point A to B safely or to pass your written but
>> deeper knowledge -- where and why does icing occur? The physics of
>> thunderstorms? Turbulence? Fog and clouds? How are aviation
>> forecasts prepared? What is the technology behind automated weather
>> observations? And how about the meteorological research aircraft
that
>> penetrate hurricanes?
>>
>> In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
>> that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
>> pilot. Does such a book already exist?
>>
>> I'm both a pilot and a professor of meteorology, and I have already
>> written a couple of successful college textbooks. I've been thinking
>> about the above book as my next possible project, but would only
>> bother if I had a sense that there was real interest.
>
> Weather is to a pilot as water is to a fish.
> (you may quote me ;-).
>
> Understandably weather in ground school was quite
> superficial, as pilots are generally not academically
> inclined, where alot of algebra is concerned, however
> they tend to think in visualizations so use diagrams,
> and comics. Vectors and vector analysis (without
> calculus) is as deep as I'd go with GA pilots.
>
> One of my hobbies is to watch the contrails as they
> fade for signs of turbulence. I live near the Rockies
> and right inside an airway so lots of jets fly high over.
> Also have a great view of final approach south into
> Kelowna, going down the okenagan valley.
>


He's back! Let the bull**** low!



Bertie
>

[WingFlaps]

On May 9, 12:02*am, "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote:
> On May 6, 10:57 pm, Qzectb > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Are there readers in this newsgroup who have a strong interest in
> > weather as it relates to aviation? *I don't mean just the stuff you
> > need to get from point A to B safely or to pass your written but
> > deeper knowledge -- where and why does icing occur? *The physics of
> > thunderstorms? *Turbulence? * Fog and clouds? *How are aviation
> > forecasts prepared? *What is the technology behind automated weather
> > observations? *And how about the meteorological research aircraft that
> > penetrate hurricanes?
>
> > In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
> > that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
> > pilot. *Does such a book already exist?
>
> > I'm both a pilot and a professor of meteorology, and I have already
> > written a couple of successful college textbooks. *I've been thinking
> > about the above book as my next possible project, but would only
> > bother if I had a sense that there was real interest.
>
> Weather is to a pilot as water is to a fish.
> (you may quote me ;-).
>
> Understandably weather in ground school was quite
> superficial, as pilots are generally not academically
> inclined, where alot of algebra is concerned, however
> they tend to think in visualizations so use diagrams,
> and comics. Vectors and vector analysis (without
> calculus) is as deep as I'd go with GA pilots.
>
> One of my hobbies is to watch the contrails as they
> fade for signs of turbulence. I live near the Rockies
> and right inside an airway so lots of jets fly high over.
> *Also have a great view of final approach south into
> Kelowna, going down the okenagan valley.
> Ken- Hide quoted text -
>
You're an Oke?

Cheers

[WingFlaps]

On May 9, 5:11*am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote in news:4f309f8d-a83f-
> :
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 6, 10:57 pm, Qzectb > wrote:
> >> Are there readers in this newsgroup who have a strong interest in
> >> weather as it relates to aviation? *I don't mean just the stuff you
> >> need to get from point A to B safely or to pass your written but
> >> deeper knowledge -- where and why does icing occur? *The physics of
> >> thunderstorms? *Turbulence? * Fog and clouds? *How are aviation
> >> forecasts prepared? *What is the technology behind automated weather
> >> observations? *And how about the meteorological research aircraft
> that
> >> penetrate hurricanes?
>
> >> In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
> >> that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
> >> pilot. *Does such a book already exist?
>
> >> I'm both a pilot and a professor of meteorology, and I have already
> >> written a couple of successful college textbooks. *I've been thinking
> >> about the above book as my next possible project, but would only
> >> bother if I had a sense that there was real interest.
>
> > Weather is to a pilot as water is to a fish.
> > (you may quote me ;-).
>
> > Understandably weather in ground school was quite
> > superficial, as pilots are generally not academically
> > inclined, where alot of algebra is concerned, however
> > they tend to think in visualizations so use diagrams,
> > and comics. Vectors and vector analysis (without
> > calculus) is as deep as I'd go with GA pilots.
>
> > One of my hobbies is to watch the contrails as they
> > fade for signs of turbulence. I live near the Rockies
> > and right inside an airway so lots of jets fly high over.
> > *Also have a great view of final approach south into
> > Kelowna, going down the okenagan valley.
>
> He's back! Let the bull**** low!
>

That's either very clever or a typo :-)
LOL

Cheers

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

WingFlaps > wrote in news:f18c898d-fe30-4421-a329-
:

> On May 9, 5:11*am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote in news:4f309f8d-a83f-
>> :
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On May 6, 10:57 pm, Qzectb > wrote:
>> >> Are there readers in this newsgroup who have a strong interest in
>> >> weather as it relates to aviation? *I don't mean just the stuff
you
>> >> need to get from point A to B safely or to pass your written but
>> >> deeper knowledge -- where and why does icing occur? *The physics
of
>> >> thunderstorms? *Turbulence? * Fog and clouds? *How are aviation
>> >> forecasts prepared? *What is the technology behind automated
weather
>> >> observations? *And how about the meteorological research aircraft
>> that
>> >> penetrate hurricanes?
>>
>> >> In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a
book
>> >> that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
>> >> pilot. *Does such a book already exist?
>>
>> >> I'm both a pilot and a professor of meteorology, and I have
already
>> >> written a couple of successful college textbooks. *I've been
thinking
>
>> >> about the above book as my next possible project, but would only
>> >> bother if I had a sense that there was real interest.
>>
>> > Weather is to a pilot as water is to a fish.
>> > (you may quote me ;-).
>>
>> > Understandably weather in ground school was quite
>> > superficial, as pilots are generally not academically
>> > inclined, where alot of algebra is concerned, however
>> > they tend to think in visualizations so use diagrams,
>> > and comics. Vectors and vector analysis (without
>> > calculus) is as deep as I'd go with GA pilots.
>>
>> > One of my hobbies is to watch the contrails as they
>> > fade for signs of turbulence. I live near the Rockies
>> > and right inside an airway so lots of jets fly high over.
>> > *Also have a great view of final approach south into
>> > Kelowna, going down the okenagan valley.
>>
>> He's back! Let the bull**** low!
>>
>
> That's either very clever or a typo :-)
> LOL


Typo, unfortunately.


Bertie

[WingFlaps]

On May 9, 11:26*am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> WingFlaps > wrote in news:f18c898d-fe30-4421-a329-
> :
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 9, 5:11*am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> >> "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote in news:4f309f8d-a83f-
> >> :
>
> >> > On May 6, 10:57 pm, Qzectb > wrote:
> >> >> Are there readers in this newsgroup who have a strong interest in
> >> >> weather as it relates to aviation? *I don't mean just the stuff
> you
> >> >> need to get from point A to B safely or to pass your written but
> >> >> deeper knowledge -- where and why does icing occur? *The physics
> of
> >> >> thunderstorms? *Turbulence? * Fog and clouds? *How are aviation
> >> >> forecasts prepared? *What is the technology behind automated
> weather
> >> >> observations? *And how about the meteorological research aircraft
> >> that
> >> >> penetrate hurricanes?
>
> >> >> In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a
> book
> >> >> that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
> >> >> pilot. *Does such a book already exist?
>
> >> >> I'm both a pilot and a professor of meteorology, and I have
> already
> >> >> written a couple of successful college textbooks. *I've been
> thinking
>
> >> >> about the above book as my next possible project, but would only
> >> >> bother if I had a sense that there was real interest.
>
> >> > Weather is to a pilot as water is to a fish.
> >> > (you may quote me ;-).
>
> >> > Understandably weather in ground school was quite
> >> > superficial, as pilots are generally not academically
> >> > inclined, where alot of algebra is concerned, however
> >> > they tend to think in visualizations so use diagrams,
> >> > and comics. Vectors and vector analysis (without
> >> > calculus) is as deep as I'd go with GA pilots.
>
> >> > One of my hobbies is to watch the contrails as they
> >> > fade for signs of turbulence. I live near the Rockies
> >> > and right inside an airway so lots of jets fly high over.
> >> > *Also have a great view of final approach south into
> >> > Kelowna, going down the okenagan valley.
>
> >> He's back! Let the bull**** low!
>
> > That's either very clever or a typo :-)
> > LOL
>
> Typo, unfortunately.
>
Ah, such honesty and humility. Maxine will hate that answer!
;-)
Cheers

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

WingFlaps > wrote in news:764ea8cf-fd15-4f95-9c67-
:

> On May 9, 11:26*am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> WingFlaps > wrote in news:f18c898d-fe30-4421-
a329-
>> :
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On May 9, 5:11*am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> >> "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote in news:4f309f8d-
a83f-
>> >> :
>>
>> >> > On May 6, 10:57 pm, Qzectb > wrote:
>> >> >> Are there readers in this newsgroup who have a strong interest
in
>> >> >> weather as it relates to aviation? *I don't mean just the stuff
>> you
>> >> >> need to get from point A to B safely or to pass your written
but
>> >> >> deeper knowledge -- where and why does icing occur? *The
physics
>> of
>> >> >> thunderstorms? *Turbulence? * Fog and clouds? *How are aviatio
> n
>> >> >> forecasts prepared? *What is the technology behind automated
>> weather
>> >> >> observations? *And how about the meteorological research
aircraft
>> >> that
>> >> >> penetrate hurricanes?
>>
>> >> >> In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a
>> book
>> >> >> that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically
minded
>> >> >> pilot. *Does such a book already exist?
>>
>> >> >> I'm both a pilot and a professor of meteorology, and I have
>> already
>> >> >> written a couple of successful college textbooks. *I've been
>> thinking
>>
>> >> >> about the above book as my next possible project, but would
only
>> >> >> bother if I had a sense that there was real interest.
>>
>> >> > Weather is to a pilot as water is to a fish.
>> >> > (you may quote me ;-).
>>
>> >> > Understandably weather in ground school was quite
>> >> > superficial, as pilots are generally not academically
>> >> > inclined, where alot of algebra is concerned, however
>> >> > they tend to think in visualizations so use diagrams,
>> >> > and comics. Vectors and vector analysis (without
>> >> > calculus) is as deep as I'd go with GA pilots.
>>
>> >> > One of my hobbies is to watch the contrails as they
>> >> > fade for signs of turbulence. I live near the Rockies
>> >> > and right inside an airway so lots of jets fly high over.
>> >> > *Also have a great view of final approach south into
>> >> > Kelowna, going down the okenagan valley.
>>
>> >> He's back! Let the bull**** low!
>>
>> > That's either very clever or a typo :-)
>> > LOL
>>
>> Typo, unfortunately.
>>
> Ah, such honesty and humility. Maxine will hate that answer!
> ;-)
> Cheers
>
>

Nah, he'll just come up with another gay lame. It's what he does.

Bertie

[Michael Henry[_2_]]

Qzectb wrote:

> In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
> that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
> pilot. Does such a book already exist?

I recently purchased this book:

Manual of Aviation Meteorology
http://www.fishpond.com.au/product_info/11487011/

....but so far I've found that it gives pretty light treatment to the
subject. For example the chapter on "Temperature" is only two pages!
"Air Pressure" and "Atmospheric Density" are each four pages long. I'm
certainly not looking for long-winded explanations but when I fork out
$80 for a book about Aviation Meteorology my expectations are a bit
higher than this.

I think the inclusion of some exercises to reinforce the learning would
be helpful. "Real-world" examples are always good.

Regards,

Michael

[Margy Natalie]

Jay Honeck wrote:
>> In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
>> that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
>> pilot. Does such a book already exist?
>
>
> I would personally find such a book interesting.
>
> Unfortunately, with pilot numbers dropping, I suspect your efforts
> wouldn't get you on the NY Times best-seller list...
I have the good fortune of having a daughter who is a meteorlogist (as
is her boyfriend). We were flying and saw this really wierd cloud. We
were having dinner with them that evening (not bad considering I only
see the kid about 5 time a year) and they had the cloud named in a few
minutes and said "That's really weird that you saw that as it only
occurs at the point of a wind shear and the shear usually takes all the
moisture out of the cloud". Once I told them we were over a lake at the
time they just nodded and said "local moisture source". the cloud
looked like a corkscrew laying on it's side. If I'd had a clue I would
have climbed 2,000 feet and avoided having my teeth knocked around!

Margy

[Andrew Sarangan]

On May 7, 1:57 am, Qzectb > wrote:
> Are there readers in this newsgroup who have a strong interest in
> weather as it relates to aviation? I don't mean just the stuff you
> need to get from point A to B safely or to pass your written but
> deeper knowledge -- where and why does icing occur? The physics of
> thunderstorms? Turbulence? Fog and clouds? How are aviation
> forecasts prepared? What is the technology behind automated weather
> observations? And how about the meteorological research aircraft that
> penetrate hurricanes?
>
> In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
> that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
> pilot. Does such a book already exist?
>
> I'm both a pilot and a professor of meteorology, and I have already
> written a couple of successful college textbooks. I've been thinking
> about the above book as my next possible project, but would only
> bother if I had a sense that there was real interest.

This is a great idea, and I would buy it. I am also a pilot and
professor (not meteorology) and would love to read an indepth analysis
of weather for aviation. Most aviation weather books regurgitate
information instead of providing scientific insights or explaining why
things happen. The best I could find so far was the American
Meteorological Society's Online Weather Studies course, but that is
not particularly geared towards aviation.

[Andrew Sarangan]

On May 7, 7:58 pm, Qzectb > wrote:
> On May 7, 10:52 am, "Bob Gardner" > wrote:
>
> > Befor you go overboard, log ontonwww.chesavtraining.comtosee what
> > meteorologist/flight instructor Scott Dennstaedt is doing. He writes for
>
> Okay, that's the kind of heads-up I was looking for. Looks like he
> knows his stuff.
>
> Thanks...

I only viewed the sample lesson on that site, but I still think there
is room for a book like the one you suggested.

For example, the first lesson talks about icing in cumulus clouds
being greater than in stratus. What would be insightful is to explain
why, not just remind us of the facts. Detailed explanations may turn
off many pilots, but I am sure there are some who would find this
useful. In any case, like other have mentioned, I doubt the market
will be large, but I am sure you already knew that. If you are looking
to write a book that every pilot would buy, then I am afraid this may
not be a exercise worth your time. But if you are going to write
something with detailed analysis and explanations, sign me up.

[RST Engineering]

I'm sure I don't need to remind you, Margy, of the old maxim that a student
pilot spends literally WEEKS studying about weather, the private pilot
spends DAYS planning a flight, the commercial pilot spends an hour or two
before a long flight, and an ATP can just take one good look at a flight
attendant and tell whether.

Jim

--
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it."
--Aristotle


"Margy Natalie" > wrote in message
m...
> Jay Honeck wrote:

[Gezellig]

On Wed, 14 May 2008 07:03:34 -0700, RST Engineering wrote:

> the old maxim that a student
> pilot spends literally WEEKS studying about weather, the private pilot
> spends DAYS planning a flight, the commercial pilot spends an hour or two
> before a long flight, and an ATP can just take one good look at a flight
> attendant and tell whether.
>
> Jim

It's going to rain?

[RST Engineering]

Huh?

Jim

--
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it."
--Aristotle


"Gezellig" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 14 May 2008 07:03:34 -0700, RST Engineering wrote:
>
>> the old maxim that a student
>> pilot spends literally WEEKS studying about weather, the private pilot
>> spends DAYS planning a flight, the commercial pilot spends an hour or two
>> before a long flight, and an ATP can just take one good look at a flight
>> attendant and tell whether.
>>
>> Jim
>
> It's going to rain?

[[email protected]]

On May 14, 8:03*am, "RST Engineering" > wrote:
> I'm sure I don't need to remind you, Margy, of the old maxim that a student
> pilot spends literally WEEKS studying about weather, the private pilot
> spends DAYS planning a flight, the commercial pilot spends an hour or two
> before a long flight, and an ATP can just take one good look at a flight
> attendant and tell whether.
>
> Jim
>
> --
> "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
> without accepting it."
> * * * * --Aristotle
>
> "Margy Natalie" > wrote in message
>
> m...
>
>
>
> > Jay Honeck wrote:- Hide quoted text -
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Only her hairdresser knows for sure... <GG>

[Larry Dighera]

On Wed, 7 May 2008 16:57:04 -0700 (PDT), Qzectb >
wrote in
>:

>
>> Perhaps.
>>
>> How would the work you propose differ from this one:http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryC...
>
>Well, nicer font for one. Oh, and it wouldn't read like an FAA
>training manual but more like a commercial non-fiction book with at
>least a little personality, real-life stories, anecdotes, case
>studies, etc.
>
>Other than that, the above document looks like it has some pretty
>useful (if somewhat dated) information.

Perhaps you'll be able to find some non-fiction stories in the
document below to include in your work:

http://www.ntsb.gov/publictn/2005/SS0501.pdf
National Transportation Safety Board. 2005. Risk Factors
Associated with Weather-Related General Aviation Accidents. Safety
Study NTSB/SS-05/01. Washington, DC.

Abstract: The goal of this National Transportation Safety Board
study was to better understand the risk factors associated with
accidents that occur in weather conditions characterized by IMC or
poor visibility (.weather-related accidents.). Safety Board air
safety investigators collected data from 72 general aviation
accidents that occurred between August 2003 and April 2004. When
accidents occurred, study managers also contacted pilots of
flights that were operating in the vicinity at the time of those
accidents for information about their flight activity. A total of
135 nonaccident flights were included in the study. All
nonaccident pilots voluntarily consented to interviews and
provided information about their flights, their aircraft, and
details about their training, experience, and demographics.
Additionally, the Federal Aviation Administration provided
information about pilots. practical and written test results and
their previous accident/incident involvement. Statistical analyses
were used to determine the relationships between study
variables and accident/nonaccident status and to identify
variables that could be linked to an increased risk
of weather-related general aviation accident involvement. The
analysis revealed several pilot- and flightrelated factors
associated with increased risk of accident involvement. The safety
issues discussed in this report include: 1) pilot age and
training-related differences, 2) pilot testing, accident, and
incident history, and 3) pilot weather briefing sources and
methods. Safety recommendations concerning these issues were
made to the Federal Aviation Administration.