View Full Version : FAA bans Chantix
Jim Burns[_2_]
May 21st 08, 09:13 PM
....for you guys trying to quit smoking.
Jim
Mxsmanic
May 21st 08, 09:28 PM
Jim Burns writes:
> ...for you guys trying to quit smoking.
Why did they ban it?
Darkwing
May 21st 08, 09:33 PM
"Jim Burns" > wrote in message
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> ...for you guys trying to quit smoking.
> Jim
>
>
I know two non-pilots who took Chantix and they didn't have anything really
good to say about it, they are both still smokers and quit taking it because
of side effects.
Benjamin Dover
May 21st 08, 09:35 PM
Mxsmanic > wrote in
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> Jim Burns writes:
>
>> ...for you guys trying to quit smoking.
>
> Why did they ban it?
>
It doesn't work with MSFS.
Darkwing
May 21st 08, 10:23 PM
"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
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> Jim Burns writes:
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>> ...for you guys trying to quit smoking.
>
> Why did they ban it?
DAFS.
NW_Pilot
May 21st 08, 10:46 PM
You don't need drugs to quit!!! Just QUIT!!! I am Going on my 5th year using
the cold turkey method was 3 packs a day... It's called being mentally
strong and stable.
Also read the side effects of them drugs smoking is healthier even the FAA
seems to agree.
Once on a ferry flight I told an aircraft owner he goes or I go he was
stinking bad like cigarettes was emanating from his pores in the end he went
home I flew airplane alone. I swear there were 10 to 15 cigarette buts out
side his car window.
Darkwing
May 21st 08, 11:16 PM
"NW_Pilot" > wrote in message
. ..
> You don't need drugs to quit!!! Just QUIT!!! I am Going on my 5th year
> using the cold turkey method was 3 packs a day... It's called being
> mentally strong and stable.
>
Three packs! (Where the hell is the emoticon with big bugging eyes when I
need it??)
NW_Pilot
May 22nd 08, 12:48 AM
"Darkwing" <theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "NW_Pilot" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> You don't need drugs to quit!!! Just QUIT!!! I am Going on my 5th year
>> using the cold turkey method was 3 packs a day... It's called being
>> mentally strong and stable.
>>
>
> Three packs! (Where the hell is the emoticon with big bugging eyes when I
> need it??)
>
Yea, three packs a day!!!
Helen Waite
May 22nd 08, 04:00 AM
"Viperdoc" > wrote in
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> Anthony, why should anyone answer your question when we all know how
> you will begin to expound on your great knowledge of the subject even
> though you are not a chemist, pharmacologist, flight surgeon, or
> pilot?
>
Anthony won't be able to display his superior knowledge until he steals a
copy of the Chantix add on to MSFS and plays with it.
Denny
May 22nd 08, 12:47 PM
Chantix is the best of the stop smoking drugs... I have had a high
percentage of people quit smoking with Chantix, which has not happened
with anything available prior to this drug... The FAA has unrealistic
pharmaceutical standards... What they demand is a drug that has no
side effects... There is no such chemical... Even water has side
effects... People drown in water...
denny
Gig 601Xl Builder
May 22nd 08, 02:28 PM
Jim Burns wrote:
> ...for you guys trying to quit smoking.
> Jim
>
>
From the Chantix website.
Side Effects and Safety
What are the possible side effects of CHANTIX?
The most common side effects of CHANTIX include:
nausea
sleep disturbance (trouble sleeping, or vivid, unusual, or strange dreams)
constipation
gas
vomiting
Some patients reported changes in behavior, agitation, depressed mood,
suicidal thinking or behavior when attempting to quit smoking while
taking CHANTIX. If you have any of these symptoms, or if your family or
caregiver observes these symptoms, please tell your doctor immediately.
Also tell your doctor about side effects that bother you or that do not
go away.
These are not all the side effects of CHANTIX. Ask your doctor or
pharmacist for more information.
Use caution driving or operating machinery until you know how quitting
smoking and/or using CHANTIX may affect you.
Kloudy via AviationKB.com
May 22nd 08, 04:42 PM
NW_Pilot wrote:
>You don't need drugs to quit!!! Just QUIT!!! I am Going on my 5th year using
>the cold turkey method was 3 packs a day... It's called being mentally
>strong and stable.
>
I agree...sort of.
I have seen thousands of people with debilitating disease from smoking and
its not the lung cancer I find the most ugly. Its the vascular disease.
At the time I quit 'bout 6 years ago I realized I too am gonna get old.
The big question was if I kept up the "death sticks", what kind of old was it
gonna be.
I like my peripheral vascular perfusion and so does my lovely wife (if-ya-
know-what-I-mean) and the benefits it provides.
That really was the bug that got me to quit. The heart attacks, cancers and
strokes don't scare me as much as living with the horrors of PVD.
Maybe thats just me.
For all of you still smoking, never give up trying to stop. It can happen.
--
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Mxsmanic
May 22nd 08, 07:03 PM
Denny writes:
> The FAA has unrealistic
> pharmaceutical standards... What they demand is a drug that has no
> side effects... There is no such chemical... Even water has side
> effects... People drown in water...
The FAA has unrealistic medical standards in general.
Viperdoc
May 22nd 08, 07:09 PM
>
> The FAA has unrealistic medical standards in general.
Well, you would'nt pass the exam, so there must be some value. Besides, how
would you know, not being a pilot, flight surgeon, or physician?
Mxsmanic
May 22nd 08, 08:12 PM
Viperdoc writes:
> Well, you would'nt pass the exam, so there must be some value.
I don't know if I'd pass the exam or not.
> Besides, how would you know, not being a pilot, flight surgeon,
> or physician?
Believe it or not, it's possible to know a lot about medicine without being
any of these things.
Steve Foley
May 22nd 08, 08:20 PM
"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
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> Viperdoc writes:
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> > Well, you would'nt pass the exam, so there must be some value.
>
> I don't know if I'd pass the exam or not.
>
You're bad eye may cause you problems.
Mxsmanic
May 22nd 08, 08:32 PM
Steve Foley writes:
> You're bad eye may cause you problems.
I don't understand.
Steve Foley > wrote:
> "Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Viperdoc writes:
> >
> > > Well, you would'nt pass the exam, so there must be some value.
> >
> > I don't know if I'd pass the exam or not.
> >
> You're bad eye may cause you problems.
Not to mention the constant correction of and argueing with the CFI
that has to sign off before he could take the written and practical.
--
Jim Pennino
Remove .spam.sux to reply.
Helen Waite
May 22nd 08, 08:46 PM
Mxsmanic > wrote in
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> Steve Foley writes:
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>> You're bad eye may cause you problems.
>
> I don't understand.
>
You don't understand because you're an ignoramus.
Viperdoc
May 22nd 08, 08:52 PM
As an FAA AME I can categorically state that you would not pass the exam for
even class III.
Steve Foley
May 22nd 08, 08:52 PM
"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
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> Steve Foley writes:
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> > You're bad eye may cause you problems.
>
> I don't understand.
Memory problems too?
Mxsmanic
May 22nd 08, 08:58 PM
Steve Foley writes:
> Memory problems too?
Read your statement carefullly.
Mxsmanic
May 22nd 08, 09:00 PM
Viperdoc writes:
> As an FAA AME I can categorically state that you would not pass the exam for
> even class III.
You have no way of knowing whether I'd pass the exam or not.
Additionally, most doctors refrain from putting their reputations on the line
with Internet diagnoses.
Viperdoc
May 22nd 08, 09:04 PM
"Additionally, most doctors refrain from putting their reputations on the
line
> with Internet diagnoses"
I didn't know you spoke for "most doctors".
Ross
May 22nd 08, 09:06 PM
Mxsmanic wrote:
> Viperdoc writes:
>
>> As an FAA AME I can categorically state that you would not pass the exam for
>> even class III.
>
> You have no way of knowing whether I'd pass the exam or not.
>
> Additionally, most doctors refrain from putting their reputations on the line
> with Internet diagnoses.
Another kill file address.
--
Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI
Steve Foley
May 22nd 08, 09:07 PM
"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
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> Steve Foley writes:
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> > Memory problems too?
>
> Read your statement carefullly.
I know exactly what I wrote.
Don't worry, you'll never need that information.
Mxsmanic
May 22nd 08, 09:09 PM
Steve Foley writes:
> I know exactly what I wrote.
Then perhaps you can explain why you called me a "bad eye," as I don't
understand it.
Steve Foley
May 22nd 08, 09:13 PM
"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
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> Steve Foley writes:
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> > I know exactly what I wrote.
>
> Then perhaps you can explain why you called me a "bad eye," as I don't
> understand it.
As you've proven time and again, you are refractory to explainations.
Helen Waite
May 22nd 08, 09:47 PM
Mxsmanic > wrote in
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> Steve Foley writes:
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>> Memory problems too?
>
> Read your statement carefullly.
You have a reading comprehension disability Anthony.
Buster Hymen
May 22nd 08, 10:04 PM
"Darkwing" <theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com> wrote in
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> "Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Steve Foley writes:
>>
>>> I know exactly what I wrote.
>>
>> Then perhaps you can explain why you called me a "bad eye," as I
>> don't understand it.
>
> I don't know why it matters if you have a bad eye or not with your
> head jammed straight up your ass, you need a window cut into your
> stomach to see out anyway.
>
>
>
Anthony can't afford to have a window cut in his stomach. To see anyhting
he just looks through his penis.
Darkwing
May 22nd 08, 10:06 PM
"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
...
> Steve Foley writes:
>
>> I know exactly what I wrote.
>
> Then perhaps you can explain why you called me a "bad eye," as I don't
> understand it.
I don't know why it matters if you have a bad eye or not with your head
jammed straight up your ass, you need a window cut into your stomach to see
out anyway.
Benjamin Dover
May 22nd 08, 10:08 PM
Buster Hymen > wrote in
8:
> "Darkwing" <theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com> wrote in
> :
>
>>
>> "Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Steve Foley writes:
>>>
>>>> I know exactly what I wrote.
>>>
>>> Then perhaps you can explain why you called me a "bad eye," as I
>>> don't understand it.
>>
>> I don't know why it matters if you have a bad eye or not with your
>> head jammed straight up your ass, you need a window cut into your
>> stomach to see out anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Anthony can't afford to have a window cut in his stomach. To see
> anyhting he just looks through his penis.
>
>
Ahhh. That explains why Anthony is so short sighted.
Darkwing
May 22nd 08, 10:08 PM
"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
...
> Viperdoc writes:
>
>> As an FAA AME I can categorically state that you would not pass the exam
>> for
>> even class III.
>
> You have no way of knowing whether I'd pass the exam or not.
>
> Additionally, most doctors refrain from putting their reputations on the
> line
> with Internet diagnoses.
Retarded man-children can not pass the FAA Exam, it is all in the manual.
Eideigssei
May 22nd 08, 10:40 PM
Steve Foley wrote:
> "Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Steve Foley writes:
>>
>>
>>>I know exactly what I wrote.
>>
>>Then perhaps you can explain why you called me a "bad eye," as I don't
>>understand it.
>
>
> As you've proven time and again, you are refractory to explainations.
Just FYI: Anthony the Arrogant will pounce on a minor typo or
grammatical error, and rather than point it out, will attempt to
make you look stupid by simply making oblique references instead.
In this case, he's going infantile on you for using "you're" where
"your" might have been more appropriate. He's done this in many a
forum, so ... nothing new to see here, folks. Move along.
idi/ig/se
May 23rd 08, 12:33 AM
On 5/22/2008 12:58 PM Mxsmanic ignored two million years of human
evolution to write:
> Read your statement carefullly.
What statement would that be?
Mortimer Schnerd, RN[_2_]
May 23rd 08, 02:49 AM
Buster Hymen wrote:
> Anthony can't afford to have a window cut in his stomach. To see anyhting
> he just looks through his penis.
I know he was just thrilled when he grew his first pubic hair. What a heart
breaker it must have been to find out he was expected to urinate through it.
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com
TheSmokingGnu
May 23rd 08, 05:12 AM
wrote:
> Not to mention the constant correction of and argueing with the CFI
> that has to sign off before he could take the written and practical.
I dunno... how many ways /are/ there to write "Denied"?
:P
TheSmokingGnu
Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
May 23rd 08, 05:31 AM
Mxsmanic > wrote in
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> Viperdoc writes:
>
>> As an FAA AME I can categorically state that you would not pass the
>> exam for even class III.
>
> You have no way of knowing whether I'd pass the exam or not.
>
I do. you wouldn't.
Bertie
Stealth Pilot[_2_]
May 23rd 08, 12:59 PM
On Thu, 22 May 2008 15:04:37 -0500, "Viperdoc"
> wrote:
> "Additionally, most doctors refrain from putting their reputations on the
>line
>> with Internet diagnoses"
>
>I didn't know you spoke for "most doctors".
>
viperdoc. serious question here. you've seen 80,000 meaningless posts
from the manic one. do the patterns of erratic nonsense he pours out
match it with any syndrome?
one of the australian nutters was successfully diagnosed by a couple
of pilot medicos just noticing the patterns in the responses.
from my reading they got his syndrome bang on the money.
it made effectively handling quite easy.
Stealth Pilot
Stealth Pilot[_2_]
May 23rd 08, 01:45 PM
On Fri, 23 May 2008 07:13:03 -0500, "Viperdoc"
> wrote:
>My area is flight medicine and orthopaedics, not psych. There are other
>posters here who have more of a psych background, but as a guess, I would
>say Anthony has a personality disorder. I recall that he might fit
>narcissistic or antisocial personality disorders, but do not have DSM handy
>to look it up. This might explain his responses, as well as his lack of
>ability to find or hold a job.
>
>However, the weather has been nice here, and I've been able to go flying at
>least four times a week (although gas is a killer). So, who cares about
>Anthony and his obnoxious posts- this NG is supposed to be about flying, and
>that's what I've been doing.
>
>
>
I'm repainting my old faithful wooden propeller tomorrow. once that is
done and in balance the new baffle components I made two weeks ago
will be installed. I then complete my annual maintenance and I'll
break into the 3 drums of avgas I have in the hangar, it's getting on
for winter here, so I'll do my bit for some local global warming.
I love flying with a freshly painted prop in cold weather :-)
Stealth Pilot
Steve Foley
May 23rd 08, 01:59 PM
"Eideigssei" > wrote in message
>
> Just FYI: Anthony the Arrogant will pounce on a minor typo or
> grammatical error, and rather than point it out, will attempt to
> make you look stupid by simply making oblique references instead.
>
> In this case, he's going infantile on you for using "you're" where
> "your" might have been more appropriate. He's done this in many a
> forum, so ... nothing new to see here, folks. Move along.
I'd say the one who claims not to understand is the one looking stupid.
Just my opinion.
Jay Maynard
May 23rd 08, 02:07 PM
On 2008-05-23, Stealth Pilot > wrote:
> I love flying with a freshly painted prop in cold weather :-)
Okkay, I gotta ask: does the fresh paint make a difference, aside from
looking good?
As for flying in the cold weather...wel, I guess I'll find out about that in
several months. Hopefully, the winterization kit on my airplane will help
with cain sealing, something others have reported to be something of an
issue with the Zodiac.
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (ordered 17 March, delivery 2 June)
Mortimer Schnerd, RN[_2_]
May 23rd 08, 05:12 PM
Jay Maynard wrote:
> On 2008-05-23, Stealth Pilot > wrote:
>> I love flying with a freshly painted prop in cold weather :-)
>
> Okkay, I gotta ask: does the fresh paint make a difference, aside from
> looking good?
You've got it all backwards. Fresh paint spinning around like that dries
*really* fast.
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com
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