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bizguy
June 3rd 08, 07:46 PM
I apologize if this is too far off topic as this is not a homebuilt
for sure. Useful for education. It is interesting in the design and
efficiency of operation. I am surprised that it has not made the
commercial market place with our increasing fuel costs.

http://www.ekip-aviation-concern.com/

Harold Hoffmann

Bill Daniels
June 3rd 08, 09:30 PM
I really wish this thing could fly if for no other reason than it would
freak out the UFO nuts.


"bizguy" > wrote in message
...
>I apologize if this is too far off topic as this is not a homebuilt
> for sure. Useful for education. It is interesting in the design and
> efficiency of operation. I am surprised that it has not made the
> commercial market place with our increasing fuel costs.
>
> http://www.ekip-aviation-concern.com/
>
> Harold Hoffmann

Bob Kuykendall
June 3rd 08, 09:50 PM
On Jun 3, 1:30*pm, "Bill Daniels" <bildan@comcast-dot-net> wrote:
> I really wish this thing could fly if for no other reason than it would
> freak out the UFO nuts.

Oh, I'm sure it could be made to fly. I consider it very, very
unlikely to meet their extrordinary claims, but with enough power it
could be gotten off the ground.

Big John
June 4th 08, 10:31 AM
On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 11:46:51 -0700 (PDT), bizguy
> wrote:

>I apologize if this is too far off topic as this is not a homebuilt
>for sure. Useful for education. It is interesting in the design and
>efficiency of operation. I am surprised that it has not made the
>commercial market place with our increasing fuel costs.
>
>http://www.ekip-aviation-concern.com/
>
>Harold Hoffmann

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I built a gas powered radio controlled model airplane of somewhat
similar shape for my son in law who wanted to build a home built
(flying saucer).

I found that it was only stable in pitch when it had a positive angle
of attack. If I increased speed and flattened the AOA out I reached a
point where it would tuck very rapidly and go ape. Suffice to say, my
son in law did not build it as a man carrying vehicle.

All of that being said, it might be possible to use flyby wire and
computer (like F-16) and fly it on the edge of tuck???? and not with a
high AOA and high drag associated with the high AOA???

Big John

Michael Henry[_2_]
June 4th 08, 10:55 AM
> It is interesting in the design and
> efficiency of operation. I am surprised that it has not made the
> commercial market place with our increasing fuel costs.


At first glance this looks like it's based on similar principles to the
Blended Wing Body (BWB) which is currently being investigated by NASA
and numerous major aircraft manufacturers (although it is less "blended"
than a BWB).

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/aeronautics/features/bwb_main.html

flash
June 5th 08, 04:25 AM
Um,, , , , Bob, , , ,, it has (I'm pretty sure) been proven that given
enough thrust, even pigs will fly.


Flash


"Bob Kuykendall" > wrote in message
...
On Jun 3, 1:30 pm, "Bill Daniels" <bildan@comcast-dot-net> wrote:
> I really wish this thing could fly if for no other reason than it would
> freak out the UFO nuts.

Oh, I'm sure it could be made to fly. I consider it very, very
unlikely to meet their extrordinary claims, but with enough power it
could be gotten off the ground.

wright1902glider
June 6th 08, 05:47 PM
Congratulations Big John,

You've just discovered the rigid-wing equivilant of a luff-dive. Dunno
what that is? Just try pitching down with a standard Regallo wing.
You'll figure it out really quick... if you don't hit the ground
first.

Harry 'been there-done that" Frey
former bamboo & plastic Regallo aviator

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