Bertie 737 question

[Big John]

Bertie

I flew four flightin the 737 over Memorial week.

Each landing started from a down wind and long stablized final VFR.

I did not detect any attitude change or thorttle change after turning
final.

I also DID NOT feel or see any flare and impact with ground was what I
would say was hard.

Is this normal in the 737, to set up an attitude and fly into the
ground without flaring?

Nothing broke on any of the landings and we walked awasy from each so
must have been good ladings like they say???

Big John

[More_Flaps]

On Jun 11, 7:14*am, Big John > wrote:
> Bertie
>
> I flew four flightin the 737 over Memorial week.
>
> Each landing started from a down wind and long stablized final VFR.
>
> I did not detect any attitude change or thorttle change after turning
> final.
>
> I also DID NOT feel or see any flare and impact with ground was what I
> would say was hard.
>
> Is this normal in the 737, to set up an attitude and fly into the
> ground without flaring?
>
> Nothing broke on any of the landings and we walked awasy from each so
> must have been good ladings like they say???
>
> Big John

Was that United?
Cheers

[Darkwing]

"More_Flaps" > wrote in message
...
On Jun 11, 7:14 am, Big John > wrote:
> Bertie
>
> I flew four flightin the 737 over Memorial week.
>
> Each landing started from a down wind and long stablized final VFR.
>
> I did not detect any attitude change or thorttle change after turning
> final.
>
> I also DID NOT feel or see any flare and impact with ground was what I
> would say was hard.
>
> Is this normal in the 737, to set up an attitude and fly into the
> ground without flaring?
>
> Nothing broke on any of the landings and we walked awasy from each so
> must have been good ladings like they say???
>
> Big John

>Was that United?
>Cheers

Looking for a rimshot?

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Big John" > wrote in message
...
> Bertie
>
> I flew four flightin the 737 over Memorial week.
>
> Each landing started from a down wind and long stablized final VFR.
>
> I did not detect any attitude change or thorttle change after turning
> final.
>
> I also DID NOT feel or see any flare and impact with ground was what I
> would say was hard.
>
> Is this normal in the 737, to set up an attitude and fly into the
> ground without flaring?
>
> Nothing broke on any of the landings and we walked awasy from each so
> must have been good ladings like they say???
>
> Big John

Thanks Big John, you're feeding the troll.

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in :

>
> "Big John" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Bertie
>>
>> I flew four flightin the 737 over Memorial week.
>>
>> Each landing started from a down wind and long stablized final VFR.
>>
>> I did not detect any attitude change or thorttle change after turning
>> final.
>>
>> I also DID NOT feel or see any flare and impact with ground was what I
>> would say was hard.
>>
>> Is this normal in the 737, to set up an attitude and fly into the
>> ground without flaring?
>>
>> Nothing broke on any of the landings and we walked awasy from each so
>> must have been good ladings like they say???
>>
>> Big John
>
> Thanks Big John, you're feeding the troll.
>
>
>

BERTIE HUNGRY!



Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

Big John > wrote in
:

> Bertie
>
> I flew four flightin the 737 over Memorial week.
>
> Each landing started from a down wind and long stablized final VFR.
>
> I did not detect any attitude change or thorttle change after turning
> final.
>
> I also DID NOT feel or see any flare and impact with ground was what I
> would say was hard.
>
> Is this normal in the 737, to set up an attitude and fly into the
> ground without flaring?
>
> Nothing broke on any of the landings and we walked awasy from each so
> must have been good ladings like they say???

Well, the airpane doesn't pitch so much largely because the slats and flaps
come out together, unlike airplanes with flaps only. If you fly smoothly
power changes should be minimal. We don't really flare in the same way you
would in most. just a quick tug at abou t15 feet to reduce the rate of
descent, but we're not supposed to grease it on for a few reasons. One,
float and wasted runway. two, it gets all the spoilers and othe squat
switch things going as well as the immediate availability of brakes. three,
it breaks the surface tension of any water if it's a wet runway and four it
gets the wheels spinning straight away. you can scuff tires badly in a
greaser..


Bertie

[Tina]

On Jun 11, 1:13 am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> Big John > wrote :
>
>
>
> > Bertie
>
> > I flew four flightin the 737 over Memorial week.
>
> > Each landing started from a down wind and long stablized final VFR.
>
> > I did not detect any attitude change or thorttle change after turning
> > final.
>
> > I also DID NOT feel or see any flare and impact with ground was what I
> > would say was hard.
>
> > Is this normal in the 737, to set up an attitude and fly into the
> > ground without flaring?
>
> > Nothing broke on any of the landings and we walked awasy from each so
> > must have been good ladings like they say???
>
> Well, the airpane doesn't pitch so much largely because the slats and flaps
> come out together, unlike airplanes with flaps only. If you fly smoothly
> power changes should be minimal. We don't really flare in the same way you
> would in most. just a quick tug at abou t15 feet to reduce the rate of
> descent, but we're not supposed to grease it on for a few reasons. One,
> float and wasted runway. two, it gets all the spoilers and othe squat
> switch things going as well as the immediate availability of brakes. three,
> it breaks the surface tension of any water if it's a wet runway and four it
> gets the wheels spinning straight away. you can scuff tires badly in a
> greaser..
>
> Bertie

I can understand everything you said about firm landings, except the
tire scuffing comment. It would seem to me landing firm would smoke
the tires since they have to accelerate to the correct speed right
now, where a gentle touch down would let them accelerate more slowly.
A more gentle acceleration means less shear forces on the tire, so I'm
missing something important. Are there any insights you can offer?

[Viperdoc]

Just landed yesterday in a British Air 73. Unlike American jets, didn't feel
any thrust reverse, just some pretty hefty braking action. At least they
gave us a sandwich, unlike the American carriers.

I wonder if Anthony will be surprised when I stop by his place on Rue de
General in Paris? I have a lot of camera gear, so will be sure to post
photos.

Will do some sail plane flying in Provence later this week- it's a lot
different experience, much adverse yaw and lots of rudder required, and
what's with this flying without headsets?

JN


"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> Big John > wrote in
> :
>
>> Bertie
>>
>> I flew four flightin the 737 over Memorial week.
>>
>> Each landing started from a down wind and long stablized final VFR.
>>
>> I did not detect any attitude change or thorttle change after turning
>> final.
>>
>> I also DID NOT feel or see any flare and impact with ground was what I
>> would say was hard.
>>
>> Is this normal in the 737, to set up an attitude and fly into the
>> ground without flaring?
>>
>> Nothing broke on any of the landings and we walked awasy from each so
>> must have been good ladings like they say???
>
> Well, the airpane doesn't pitch so much largely because the slats and
> flaps
> come out together, unlike airplanes with flaps only. If you fly smoothly
> power changes should be minimal. We don't really flare in the same way you
> would in most. just a quick tug at abou t15 feet to reduce the rate of
> descent, but we're not supposed to grease it on for a few reasons. One,
> float and wasted runway. two, it gets all the spoilers and othe squat
> switch things going as well as the immediate availability of brakes.
> three,
> it breaks the surface tension of any water if it's a wet runway and four
> it
> gets the wheels spinning straight away. you can scuff tires badly in a
> greaser..
>
>
> Bertie

[Tina]

On Jun 11, 8:19 am, "Viperdoc" > wrote:
> Just landed yesterday in a British Air 73. Unlike American jets, didn't feel
> any thrust reverse, just some pretty hefty braking action. At least they
> gave us a sandwich, unlike the American carriers.
>
> I wonder if Anthony will be surprised when I stop by his place on Rue de
> General in Paris? I have a lot of camera gear, so will be sure to post
> photos.
>
> Will do some sail plane flying in Provence later this week- it's a lot
> different experience, much adverse yaw and lots of rudder required, and
> what's with this flying without headsets?
>
> JN
>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in 8.18...
>
> > Big John > wrote in
> :
>
> >> Bertie
>
> >> I flew four flightin the 737 over Memorial week.
>
> >> Each landing started from a down wind and long stablized final VFR.
>
> >> I did not detect any attitude change or thorttle change after turning
> >> final.
>
> >> I also DID NOT feel or see any flare and impact with ground was what I
> >> would say was hard.
>
> >> Is this normal in the 737, to set up an attitude and fly into the
> >> ground without flaring?
>
> >> Nothing broke on any of the landings and we walked awasy from each so
> >> must have been good ladings like they say???
>
> > Well, the airpane doesn't pitch so much largely because the slats and
> > flaps
> > come out together, unlike airplanes with flaps only. If you fly smoothly
> > power changes should be minimal. We don't really flare in the same way you
> > would in most. just a quick tug at abou t15 feet to reduce the rate of
> > descent, but we're not supposed to grease it on for a few reasons. One,
> > float and wasted runway. two, it gets all the spoilers and othe squat
> > switch things going as well as the immediate availability of brakes.
> > three,
> > it breaks the surface tension of any water if it's a wet runway and four
> > it
> > gets the wheels spinning straight away. you can scuff tires badly in a
> > greaser..
>
> > Bertie

I think you're in a lot of trouble when a primary gauge is a piece of
yarn taped to the windscreen!

[Gig 601Xl Builder]

Viperdoc wrote:
> Just landed yesterday in a British Air 73. Unlike American jets, didn't feel
> any thrust reverse, just some pretty hefty braking action. At least they
> gave us a sandwich, unlike the American carriers.
>
> I wonder if Anthony will be surprised when I stop by his place on Rue de
> General in Paris? I have a lot of camera gear, so will be sure to post
> photos.
>
> Will do some sail plane flying in Provence later this week- it's a lot
> different experience, much adverse yaw and lots of rudder required, and
> what's with this flying without headsets?
>
> JN
>

Take one of his tours and don't tell him who you are till the end. And
if I don't see photos I will be very upset.

[Tina]

On Jun 11, 9:06 am, Gig 601Xl Builder >
wrote:
> Viperdoc wrote:
> > Just landed yesterday in a British Air 73. Unlike American jets, didn't feel
> > any thrust reverse, just some pretty hefty braking action. At least they
> > gave us a sandwich, unlike the American carriers.
>
> > I wonder if Anthony will be surprised when I stop by his place on Rue de
> > General in Paris? I have a lot of camera gear, so will be sure to post
> > photos.
>
> > Will do some sail plane flying in Provence later this week- it's a lot
> > different experience, much adverse yaw and lots of rudder required, and
> > what's with this flying without headsets?
>
> > JN
>
> Take one of his tours and don't tell him who you are till the end. And
> if I don't see photos I will be very upset.

As much fun as that might be for the rest of us, it would be service
well past heroic to use some hours in Paris that way.

Choice: Cover a live grenade in the fox hole or a tour with Anthony?

Remember that old Jack Benny joke, he was the legendary cheapskate? He
was being held up, the crook said "Your money or your life" and Benny
paused and said "I'm thinking about it"?

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

Tina > wrote in
:

> On Jun 11, 1:13 am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> Big John > wrote
>> :
>>
>>
>>
>> > Bertie
>>
>> > I flew four flightin the 737 over Memorial week.
>>
>> > Each landing started from a down wind and long stablized final VFR.
>>
>> > I did not detect any attitude change or thorttle change after
>> > turning final.
>>
>> > I also DID NOT feel or see any flare and impact with ground was
>> > what I would say was hard.
>>
>> > Is this normal in the 737, to set up an attitude and fly into the
>> > ground without flaring?
>>
>> > Nothing broke on any of the landings and we walked awasy from each
>> > so must have been good ladings like they say???
>>
>> Well, the airpane doesn't pitch so much largely because the slats and
>> flaps come out together, unlike airplanes with flaps only. If you fly
>> smoothly power changes should be minimal. We don't really flare in
>> the same way you would in most. just a quick tug at abou t15 feet to
>> reduce the rate of descent, but we're not supposed to grease it on
>> for a few reasons. One, float and wasted runway. two, it gets all the
>> spoilers and othe squat switch things going as well as the immediate
>> availability of brakes. three, it breaks the surface tension of any
>> water if it's a wet runway and four it gets the wheels spinning
>> straight away. you can scuff tires badly in a greaser..
>>
>> Bertie
>
> I can understand everything you said about firm landings, except the
> tire scuffing comment. It would seem to me landing firm would smoke
> the tires since they have to accelerate to the correct speed right
> now, where a gentle touch down would let them accelerate more slowly.
> A more gentle acceleration means less shear forces on the tire, so I'm
> missing something important. Are there any insights you can offer?
>

Yeah. They're pretty heavy and take a bit to get spinning, so if you
grease it on, you just scuff rubber off of one spot until they start
rotating. It's even worse on a wet runway, where water can slice through
rubber very quickly. Sounds crazy, i know. If you're at an airport where
you can see the tires, it's not uncommon to see parts of tires with oval
wear patches where they've worn through to the first layer of cord.
That's allowed, btw.


Bertie


Bertie

[Stealth Pilot[_2_]]

On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:38:20 -0700 (PDT), Tina >
wrote:


>> > gets the wheels spinning straight away. you can scuff tires badly in a
>> > greaser..
>>
>> > Bertie
>
>I think you're in a lot of trouble when a primary gauge is a piece of
>yarn taped to the windscreen!

standard is a twinings or tetleys tea bag string.

[Tina]

On Jun 11, 11:30 am, Stealth Pilot >
wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:38:20 -0700 (PDT), Tina >
> wrote:
>
> >> > gets the wheels spinning straight away. you can scuff tires badly in a
> >> > greaser..
>
> >> > Bertie
>
> >I think you're in a lot of trouble when a primary gauge is a piece of
> >yarn taped to the windscreen!
>
> standard is a twinings or tetleys tea bag string.

Viperdoc said he's flying in France! Are you telling me the French
would use an English tea bag? You have just destroyed my whole image
of French nationalism.

In Elmira NY where I took two glider flights the instructor had a real
sense of humor. He taped a piece of pink yarn on the window. (No, he
was not being sexist, just funny). I have that piece of yarn taped
into a scrap book now. For what it's worth the instructor claimed I
bruised his knees I was yanking the stick around so much. Can you say
'over controlling'?

The yarn actually did point straight back for a couple of minutes
during that flight, most often when it was on the way from one side to
the other.

[Peter Dohm]

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> Tina > wrote in
> :
>
>> On Jun 11, 1:13 am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:

>>>
>>> Well, the airpane doesn't pitch so much largely because the slats and
>>> flaps come out together, unlike airplanes with flaps only. If you fly
>>> smoothly power changes should be minimal. We don't really flare in
>>> the same way you would in most. just a quick tug at abou t15 feet to
>>> reduce the rate of descent, but we're not supposed to grease it on
>>> for a few reasons. One, float and wasted runway. two, it gets all the
>>> spoilers and othe squat switch things going as well as the immediate
>>> availability of brakes. three, it breaks the surface tension of any
>>> water if it's a wet runway and four it gets the wheels spinning
>>> straight away. you can scuff tires badly in a greaser..
>>>
>>> Bertie
>>
>> I can understand everything you said about firm landings, except the
>> tire scuffing comment. It would seem to me landing firm would smoke
>> the tires since they have to accelerate to the correct speed right
>> now, where a gentle touch down would let them accelerate more slowly.
>> A more gentle acceleration means less shear forces on the tire, so I'm
>> missing something important. Are there any insights you can offer?
>>
>
> Yeah. They're pretty heavy and take a bit to get spinning, so if you
> grease it on, you just scuff rubber off of one spot until they start
> rotating. It's even worse on a wet runway, where water can slice through
> rubber very quickly. Sounds crazy, i know. If you're at an airport where
> you can see the tires, it's not uncommon to see parts of tires with oval
> wear patches where they've worn through to the first layer of cord.
> That's allowed, btw.
>
>
> Bertie
>
This may be mostly a function of speed. I never heard of it at the entry
level, such as 150s and 172s, but the issue has been discussed from time to
time in the aviation magazines--especially is there is any drag on the
brakes.

Peter

[george]

On Jun 12, 12:38 am, Tina > wrote:

> I think you're in a lot of trouble when a primary gauge is a piece of
> yarn taped to the windscreen!

You can't knock an indicator with a 100% accuracy though

[Vaughn Simon]

"Tina" > wrote in message
...
> I think you're in a lot of trouble when a primary gauge is a piece of
> yarn taped to the windscreen!

I have seen yaw strings on military heavy iron, both fixed and rotary wing.
The main reason we don't use yaw strings on SEL is that pesky front-mounted
propeller kinda messes with the airflow around the windscreen. (Step on the
ball, step away from the string)

Vaughn

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
> :
>>
>> Thanks Big John, you're feeding the troll.
>>
>>
>>
>
> BERTIE HUNGRY!
>
>
>
> Bertie


Bertie dumb ass lamer.

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in :

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>> :
>>>
>>> Thanks Big John, you're feeding the troll.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> BERTIE HUNGRY!
>>
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
>
> Bertie dumb ass lamer.
>
>


Maxwell yummY!

Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

"Peter Dohm" > wrote in
:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Tina > wrote in
>> news:3de72bf8-4626-4420-8b38-9b7248d4a236
@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com
>> :
>>
>>> On Jun 11, 1:13 am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> Well, the airpane doesn't pitch so much largely because the slats
>>>> and flaps come out together, unlike airplanes with flaps only. If
>>>> you fly smoothly power changes should be minimal. We don't really
>>>> flare in the same way you would in most. just a quick tug at abou
>>>> t15 feet to reduce the rate of descent, but we're not supposed to
>>>> grease it on for a few reasons. One, float and wasted runway. two,
>>>> it gets all the spoilers and othe squat switch things going as well
>>>> as the immediate availability of brakes. three, it breaks the
>>>> surface tension of any water if it's a wet runway and four it gets
>>>> the wheels spinning straight away. you can scuff tires badly in a
>>>> greaser..
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>> I can understand everything you said about firm landings, except the
>>> tire scuffing comment. It would seem to me landing firm would smoke
>>> the tires since they have to accelerate to the correct speed right
>>> now, where a gentle touch down would let them accelerate more
>>> slowly. A more gentle acceleration means less shear forces on the
>>> tire, so I'm missing something important. Are there any insights you
>>> can offer?
>>>
>>
>> Yeah. They're pretty heavy and take a bit to get spinning, so if you
>> grease it on, you just scuff rubber off of one spot until they start
>> rotating. It's even worse on a wet runway, where water can slice
>> through rubber very quickly. Sounds crazy, i know. If you're at an
>> airport where you can see the tires, it's not uncommon to see parts
>> of tires with oval wear patches where they've worn through to the
>> first layer of cord. That's allowed, btw.
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>>
> This may be mostly a function of speed. I never heard of it at the
> entry level, such as 150s and 172s, but the issue has been discussed
> from time to time in the aviation magazines--especially is there is
> any drag on the brakes.
>


Yeah, speed and the mass of the things. At a guess, I'd say 737 wheels
weigh in the region of 200 lbs and larger aircraft even more of course.
Takes a moment ot get them going. Nothing to do with brakes, of course




Bertie
>

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...

>
>
> Yeah, speed and the mass of the things. At a guess, I'd say 737 wheels
> weigh in the region of 200 lbs and larger aircraft even more of course.
> Takes a moment ot get them going. Nothing to do with brakes, of course
>
>
>
>
> Bertie
>>
>

200 pounds!!!!! Guess again dumb ass.

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:jS04k.238$oY2.150
@newsfe21.lga:

>
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>>>
>>
>
> 200 pounds!!!!! Guess again dumb ass.
>
OK, you're 300 lbs?


Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

gregvk > wrote in
:

> Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in
> :
>
>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>> :
>>
>>>
>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>>>> :
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Big John, you're feeding the troll.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BERTIE HUNGRY!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>>
>>> Bertie dumb ass lamer.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Maxwell yummY!
>>
>> Bertie
>
> You know how the homes of reeeeeally old people sometimes have an "old
> person" reek that smells kinda like a mixture of stale urine and Ben-
Gay?
>
> I dunno how old Maxwell is, but I bet his home smells like that.
>

I'm thinkin "rat ****"


Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

gregvk > wrote in news:Xns9ABB1C0F6D73A01773E1E7C2A948
@127.0.0.1:

> Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in news:g2q9es$6sl$3
> @blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
>
>> gregvk > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in
>>> :
>>>
>>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Big John, you're feeding the troll.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BERTIE HUNGRY!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bertie dumb ass lamer.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maxwell yummY!
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>> You know how the homes of reeeeeally old people sometimes have an
"old
>>> person" reek that smells kinda like a mixture of stale urine and
Ben-
>> Gay?
>>>
>>> I dunno how old Maxwell is, but I bet his home smells like that.
>>>
>>
>> I'm thinkin "rat ****"
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Or cat pee.
>

I bet one of his lil angels sleeps on his face. And he likes it!

Bertie

[Stealth Pilot[_2_]]

On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:02:25 -0700 (PDT), Tina >
wrote:


>In Elmira NY where I took two glider flights the instructor had a real
>sense of humor. He taped a piece of pink yarn on the window. (No, he
>was not being sexist, just funny). I have that piece of yarn taped
>into a scrap book now. For what it's worth the instructor claimed I
>bruised his knees I was yanking the stick around so much. Can you say
>'over controlling'?
>
>The yarn actually did point straight back for a couple of minutes
>during that flight, most often when it was on the way from one side to
>the other.

you know those thighs of yours that I oggle at?
well next time you fly a glider rest your arm on your thigh to steady
your arm and your hand, and you'll fly a whole lot better.

[Tina]

On Jun 12, 9:49 am, Stealth Pilot >
wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:02:25 -0700 (PDT), Tina >
> wrote:
>
> >In Elmira NY where I took two glider flights the instructor had a real
> >sense of humor. He taped a piece of pink yarn on the window. (No, he
> >was not being sexist, just funny). I have that piece of yarn taped
> >into a scrap book now. For what it's worth the instructor claimed I
> >bruised his knees I was yanking the stick around so much. Can you say
> >'over controlling'?
>
> >The yarn actually did point straight back for a couple of minutes
> >during that flight, most often when it was on the way from one side to
> >the other.
>
> you know those thighs of yours that I oggle at?
> well next time you fly a glider rest your arm on your thigh to steady
> your arm and your hand, and you'll fly a whole lot better.

If you've been oggling, I had not noticed, so you really are
stealthy. Or a stalker (go stalk Mx, please).

Or both.

Keep your eyes on the string from the tea bag!

[[email protected]]

On Jun 11, 8:53 am, Tina > wrote:
> On Jun 11, 9:06 am, Gig 601Xl Builder >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Viperdoc wrote:
> > > Just landed yesterday in a British Air 73. Unlike American jets, didn't feel
> > > any thrust reverse, just some pretty hefty braking action. At least they
> > > gave us a sandwich, unlike the American carriers.
>
> > > I wonder if Anthony will be surprised when I stop by his place on Rue de
> > > General in Paris? I have a lot of camera gear, so will be sure to post
> > > photos.
>
> > > Will do some sail plane flying in Provence later this week- it's a lot
> > > different experience, much adverse yaw and lots of rudder required, and
> > > what's with this flying without headsets?
>
> > > JN
>
> > Take one of his tours and don't tell him who you are till the end. And
> > if I don't see photos I will be very upset.
>
> As much fun as that might be for the rest of us, it would be service
> well past heroic to use some hours in Paris that way.
>
> Choice: Cover a live grenade in the fox hole or a tour with Anthony?
>
> Remember that old Jack Benny joke, he was the legendary cheapskate? He
> was being held up, the crook said "Your money or your life" and Benny
> paused and said "I'm thinking about it"?

Well...you *might* survive the grenade....

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

Tina > wrote in news:6d8707f9-c374-44e7-b8c0-
:

> On Jun 12, 9:49 am, Stealth Pilot >
> wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:02:25 -0700 (PDT), Tina >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In Elmira NY where I took two glider flights the instructor had a real
>> >sense of humor. He taped a piece of pink yarn on the window. (No, he
>> >was not being sexist, just funny). I have that piece of yarn taped
>> >into a scrap book now. For what it's worth the instructor claimed I
>> >bruised his knees I was yanking the stick around so much. Can you say
>> >'over controlling'?
>>
>> >The yarn actually did point straight back for a couple of minutes
>> >during that flight, most often when it was on the way from one side to
>> >the other.
>>
>> you know those thighs of yours that I oggle at?
>> well next time you fly a glider rest your arm on your thigh to steady
>> your arm and your hand, and you'll fly a whole lot better.
>
> If you've been oggling, I had not noticed, so you really are
> stealthy. Or a stalker (go stalk Mx, please).
>
> Or both.
>
> Keep your eyes on the string from the tea bag!
>

Oh dear. Good thing I'm a gentlebunyip.


Bertie

[Onideus Mad Hatter]

On 12 Jun 2008 17:39:43 GMT, gregvk > wrote:

>Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in news:g2qg4s$mu8$1
:
>
>> gregvk > wrote in
>news:Xns9ABB1C0F6D73A01773E1E7C2A948
>> @127.0.0.1:
>>
>>> Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in news:g2q9es$6sl$3
>>> @blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
>>>
>>>> gregvk > wrote in
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>> Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in
>>>>> :
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Big John, you're feeding the troll.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BERTIE HUNGRY!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bertie dumb ass lamer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maxwell yummY!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>
>>>>> You know how the homes of reeeeeally old people sometimes have an
>> "old
>>>>> person" reek that smells kinda like a mixture of stale urine and
>> Ben-
>>>> Gay?
>>>>>
>>>>> I dunno how old Maxwell is, but I bet his home smells like that.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinkin "rat ****"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>> Or cat pee.
>>>
>>
>> I bet one of his lil angels sleeps on his face. And he likes it!
>>
>> Bertie
>
>He loves the smell of cat butt in the morning.

Oh look, another Greg post...oh look, another ass reference. Come on
out of the closet already Greggie, everyone knows yer a raging homo
with a fetish for ass molesting. There's no sense in denying it.

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