United States Navy markings?

[Jack G[_2_]]

Why is it that most United States Air Force planes Have "U. S. AIR FORCE" or
"UNITED STATES AIR FORCE" markings but United States Navy and Marine
Airplanes only have "NAVY" or 'MARINES": Is there an international
agreement that covers this or is it just convention / tradition? Thanks for
any replies.

Jack G.

[Ogden Johnson III]

"Jack G" > wrote:

>Why is it that most United States Air Force planes Have "U. S. AIR FORCE" or
>"UNITED STATES AIR FORCE" markings but United States Navy and Marine
>Airplanes only have "NAVY" or 'MARINES": Is there an international
>agreement that covers this or is it just convention / tradition? Thanks for
>any replies.

Service choice. The Army, Marines, and Navy are secure enough to
just use their service name, and let the US insignia say
everything else. The USAF, coming off their USAAF inferiority
complex with the 1947 reorganization of the military services and
establishment of DoD and the USAF independent from the Army, have
demonstrated that inferiority complex proudly for more than 50
years.

Off we go, into the wild blue yonder, flying high while thinking
low ...

--
OJ III

[Steven P. McNicoll[_2_]]

Ogden Johnson III wrote:
> "Jack G" > wrote:
>
>> Why is it that most United States Air Force planes Have "U. S. AIR
>> FORCE" or "UNITED STATES AIR FORCE" markings but United States Navy
>> and Marine Airplanes only have "NAVY" or 'MARINES": Is there an
>> international agreement that covers this or is it just convention /
>> tradition? Thanks for any replies.
>
> Service choice. The Army, Marines, and Navy are secure enough to
> just use their service name, and let the US insignia say
> everything else. The USAF, coming off their USAAF inferiority
> complex with the 1947 reorganization of the military services and
> establishment of DoD and the USAF independent from the Army, have
> demonstrated that inferiority complex proudly for more than 50
> years.
>
> Off we go, into the wild blue yonder, flying high while thinking
> low ...
>

Sounds like you were rejected by the USAF.

[Ogden Johnson III]

"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote:

>Ogden Johnson III wrote:

>> "Jack G" > wrote:

>>> Why is it that most United States Air Force planes Have "U. S. AIR
>>> FORCE" or "UNITED STATES AIR FORCE" markings but United States Navy
>>> and Marine Airplanes only have "NAVY" or 'MARINES": Is there an
>>> international agreement that covers this or is it just convention /
>>> tradition? Thanks for any replies.

>> Service choice. The Army, Marines, and Navy are secure enough to
>> just use their service name, and let the US insignia say
>> everything else. The USAF, coming off their USAAF inferiority
>> complex with the 1947 reorganization of the military services and
>> establishment of DoD and the USAF independent from the Army, have
>> demonstrated that inferiority complex proudly for more than 50
>> years.
>>
>> Off we go, into the wild blue yonder, flying high while thinking
>> low ...

>Sounds like you were rejected by the USAF.

Nope. Never considered the Air Farce. Went Marine vice Army,
gratifying my Marine LtCol step-father and disappointing my Army
LtCol father. [He got over it, eventually {as I made SSgt}, and
pinned my chevrons on when was promoted to that rank.]

--
OJ III

[Steven P. McNicoll[_2_]]

Ogden Johnson III wrote:
> "Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote:
>
>> Ogden Johnson III wrote:
>
>>> "Jack G" > wrote:
>
>>>> Why is it that most United States Air Force planes Have "U. S. AIR
>>>> FORCE" or "UNITED STATES AIR FORCE" markings but United States Navy
>>>> and Marine Airplanes only have "NAVY" or 'MARINES": Is there an
>>>> international agreement that covers this or is it just convention /
>>>> tradition? Thanks for any replies.
>
>>> Service choice. The Army, Marines, and Navy are secure enough to
>>> just use their service name, and let the US insignia say
>>> everything else. The USAF, coming off their USAAF inferiority
>>> complex with the 1947 reorganization of the military services and
>>> establishment of DoD and the USAF independent from the Army, have
>>> demonstrated that inferiority complex proudly for more than 50
>>> years.
>>>
>>> Off we go, into the wild blue yonder, flying high while thinking
>>> low ...
>
>> Sounds like you were rejected by the USAF.
>
> Nope. Never considered the Air Farce. Went Marine vice Army,
> gratifying my Marine LtCol step-father and disappointing my Army
> LtCol father. [He got over it, eventually {as I made SSgt}, and
> pinned my chevrons on when was promoted to that rank.]
>

Sounds like you knew you didn't qualify for the Air Force.

[Bob McKellar]

"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
m...
> Ogden Johnson III wrote:
>> "Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote:
>>
>>> Ogden Johnson III wrote:
>>
>>>> "Jack G" > wrote:
>>
>>>>> Why is it that most United States Air Force planes Have "U. S. AIR
>>>>> FORCE" or "UNITED STATES AIR FORCE" markings but United States Navy
>>>>> and Marine Airplanes only have "NAVY" or 'MARINES": Is there an
>>>>> international agreement that covers this or is it just convention /
>>>>> tradition? Thanks for any replies.
>>
>>>> Service choice. The Army, Marines, and Navy are secure enough to
>>>> just use their service name, and let the US insignia say
>>>> everything else. The USAF, coming off their USAAF inferiority
>>>> complex with the 1947 reorganization of the military services and
>>>> establishment of DoD and the USAF independent from the Army, have
>>>> demonstrated that inferiority complex proudly for more than 50
>>>> years.
>>>>
>>>> Off we go, into the wild blue yonder, flying high while thinking
>>>> low ...
>>
>>> Sounds like you were rejected by the USAF.
>>
>> Nope. Never considered the Air Farce. Went Marine vice Army,
>> gratifying my Marine LtCol step-father and disappointing my Army
>> LtCol father. [He got over it, eventually {as I made SSgt}, and
>> pinned my chevrons on when was promoted to that rank.]
>>
>
> Sounds like you knew you didn't qualify for the Air Force.
Or he preferred to serve in the military.

Bob McKellar

[Tiger]

As a follow up question on markings, I have one about paint schemes?
Over the years the air craft have varried the paint schemes from dark
sea blue to the current haze grey for everything. Why the changes & what
works best??? Also will we ever return to something other than grey &
borring?

[Steven P. McNicoll[_2_]]

Bob McKellar wrote:
>>
>> Sounds like you knew you didn't qualify for the Air Force.
>>
>
> Or he preferred to serve in the military.
>

Sounds like you were in a similar position.

[WaltBJ]

The reason 'Navy' and 'Marines' is used is because of the vast
preponderance of readers in those organizations who must employ
their lips to sound out the words during the reading process. By the
time the meaning of either word sinks in the approaching airplane is
getting very close but has not yet passed by. MacNamara's efficiency
experts proposed substituting 'USN' and 'USMC' but long-entrenched
tradition forbade that common-sense action. (One said Mac himself
needed the help. Mac did manage to get the model numbering system down
to something he could comprehend. ) OTH an aircraft clearly marked U S
Air Force is already inside the weapons release point by time the
meaning has sparked a reaction in the lookouts Thus: "You - Ess - A-i-
r - F-o-r-c-e -- s--t, there it goes!"
Walt BJ.

[Jack G[_2_]]

Finally, an explanation the makes sense... (But if anybody has an actual,
or official reason for the difference, I would still be interested in
hearing from you.)

Jack G.
(XUSAF)

[Jack G.]

On Jul 4, 9:38 pm, "Jack G" > wrote:
> Finally, an explanation the makes sense... (But if anybody has an actual,
> or official reason for the difference, I would still be interested in
> hearing from you.)
>
> Jack G.
> (XUSAF)

From the other Jack G. This does help clear up some of the questions
but I remember once we had all the markings memorized they would
change them.

Jack G.
US Navy
USA Ret.