Will this story never end? [Archive]

Ron Monroe

July 10th 08, 06:43 AM

And without at least two companies, one can give us whatever they want and
sell it for whatever they want. Remember, the only reason the 767 was
offered in the first place, was to keep the line open. They couldn't compete
with the A330, and had planned to shut the line down.
Ron

"Jim Morris" > wrote in message
. ..
>
>
> --
> Jim Morris
> "Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> Jim Morris wrote:
>>> http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/09/business/9tanker.php
>>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe the defense department is coming to its senses that strategic
>> contracts need to stay within the US.
>>
>> JT
>
> It was better when there were more than 2 companies that could build such
> an
> aircraft.
>
> Jim Morris
>

Alan Erskine[_3_]

July 10th 08, 07:49 AM

"Ron Monroe" > wrote in message
m...
> And without at least two companies, one can give us whatever they want and
> sell it for whatever they want. Remember, the only reason the 767 was
> offered in the first place, was to keep the line open. They couldn't
> compete with the A330, and had planned to shut the line down.
> Ron

And could this be seen as yet another program where the taxpayer supports a
system (namely the 767) that is over 30 years old and very definitely not
'state-of-the-art'?

®i©ardo

July 10th 08, 10:20 AM

Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>
> Jim Morris wrote:
>> http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/09/business/9tanker.php
>>
>
>
> Maybe the defense department is coming to its senses that strategic
> contracts need to stay within the US.
>
> JT

....and, hopefully, Europe and the rest of the world will do the same by
refusing to buy anything from the USA.

--
Moving things in still pictures!

Grumpy AuContraire[_2_]

July 10th 08, 05:58 PM

®i©ardo wrote:

> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Jim Morris wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/09/business/9tanker.php
>>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe the defense department is coming to its senses that strategic
>> contracts need to stay within the US.
>>
>> JT
>
>
>
> ...and, hopefully, Europe and the rest of the world will do the same by
> refusing to buy anything from the USA.
>

Well, since Europe has been largely riding on the coattails of the USA
defense umbrella since the end of World War II, that just might be a
workable answer...

JT

Richard[_7_]

July 10th 08, 06:55 PM

And the USA offered their help out of the good of their heart?
Or did (and does) the US government have a different motivation to help
other nations and stay there for more than 60 years?

"Grumpy AuContraire" > schreef in bericht
...
>
>

> Well, since Europe has been largely riding on the coattails of the USA
> defense umbrella since the end of World War II, that just might be a
> workable answer...
>
> JT
>

®i©ardo

July 10th 08, 07:46 PM

Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>
> ®i©ardo wrote:
>
>> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim Morris wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/09/business/9tanker.php
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe the defense department is coming to its senses that strategic
>>> contracts need to stay within the US.
>>>
>>> JT
>>
>>
>>
>> ...and, hopefully, Europe and the rest of the world will do the same
>> by refusing to buy anything from the USA.
>>
>
>
> Well, since Europe has been largely riding on the coattails of the USA
> defense umbrella since the end of World War II, that just might be a
> workable answer...
>
> JT
>
Parts of Europe, maybe.

Britain has made a substantial contribution - I didn't see you in the
dead of night on the East - West German border in the 1960s!

--
Moving things in still pictures!

Grumpy AuContraire[_2_]

July 11th 08, 01:20 AM

Richard wrote:
> And the USA offered their help out of the good of their heart?
> Or did (and does) the US government have a different motivation to help
> other nations and stay there for more than 60 years?
>

Of course not.

It's a matter of survival. You know, NATO etc...

Would you prefer China or Russia to the US?

JT

Grumpy AuContraire[_2_]

July 11th 08, 01:23 AM

®i©ardo wrote:

> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> ®i©ardo wrote:
>>
>>> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jim Morris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/09/business/9tanker.php
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe the defense department is coming to its senses that strategic
>>>> contracts need to stay within the US.
>>>>
>>>> JT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ...and, hopefully, Europe and the rest of the world will do the same
>>> by refusing to buy anything from the USA.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Well, since Europe has been largely riding on the coattails of the USA
>> defense umbrella since the end of World War II, that just might be a
>> workable answer...
>>
>> JT
>>
> Parts of Europe, maybe.
>
> Britain has made a substantial contribution - I didn't see you in the
> dead of night on the East - West German border in the 1960s!
>

No, you didn't. I was busy elsewhere on another continent.

JT

Jim Morris[_4_]

July 11th 08, 01:46 AM

--
Jim Morris
"Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
...

You still driving that G4 or did you move to a Windows Machine?

Jim Morris

®i©ardo

July 11th 08, 09:33 AM

Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>
> Richard wrote:
>> And the USA offered their help out of the good of their heart?
>> Or did (and does) the US government have a different motivation to
>> help other nations and stay there for more than 60 years?
>>
>
>
> Of course not.
>
> It's a matter of survival. You know, NATO etc...
>
> Would you prefer China or Russia to the US?
>
> JT

Looking at Iraq, that's a moot point!

--
Moving things in still pictures!

Richard[_7_]

July 11th 08, 04:41 PM

I would prefer nobody as a matter of fact, which is one of my reasons I've
joined the Royal Netherlands Navy 32 years ago.
Today Russia and especially China pose no military threat to Europe in a
military way, but are both more a threat to the US in an economic way.
Economic trade for us in Europe is more logical with Russia than with the
US, they're are neighbors after all and they've got a lot of things we're
willing to trade for (oil, gas, minerals, etc). The Russians are hording
luxury stuff and we've got lots to sell.
And China, now that's what we call an economic adventure and challenge. A
huge market still waiting to discover it's full potential.
What both those countries don't want, as much countries don't, is others
meddling with their ways of life.

As there is no direct military threat now, and will not be for many years,
the US really has no reason any more to maintain military bases in Europe.
It costs you Americans a huge amount of tax-dollars and for what reason? You
may not see it that way, but the bulk of Europeans see the military presence
of the
US nowadays more as a nuisance (understatement) than an advantage. Those
tax-dollars are better spent on social plans for the less fortunate in your
own society.
Don't think I'm ungrateful the US came to our aid in 1942, I'm just saying
they overstayed their welcome by 18 years, the Cold war is long gone. It's
time to pull their forces back and stop playing the world's policeforce. You
can't make the whole world live their life as you do in your own country,
you have to respect their way of life. That's a lesson that imperialistic
Europe has already learnt when they occupied half the world, just for power,
money and wealth. We're still paying the price for the mess we made in our
former colonies.

Now, to come back on topic. European countries buy a lot of their military
equipment outside of their own country. Not because it's better than
something they can make by themselves, but mostly it's more affordable. It
all comes down to money after all, doesn't it? So, if your government
decides to buy military equipment outside of the US because it gives them
more bang for the buck, what's so bad about that then? These tankers that
we're talking about will be built or at least assembled in the US anyway.
But they'll give your Airforce the benefit of a lower price for the same
product.
Hey, and if your president can fly European helicopters (the Lockheed US101
is the US-version of the European EH101) and the US Navy can fly European
trainers (the T-45 Goshawk is a partially US-built and redesigned version of
the BAe Hawk trainer aircraft), why can't your Airforce fly US-built
Tankers?
We (the Dutch) are considering buying and partially building F-35's in the
near future to replace our aging F-16's, while there are perfectly good
airframes over here in Europe. The decision will however be made based on
the fact which contracter will offer the most for the lowest price. Just
like it's always been.;-)

Have a nice day.
Richard

"Grumpy AuContraire" > schreef in bericht
...
>
>
> Richard wrote:
>> And the USA offered their help out of the good of their heart?
>> Or did (and does) the US government have a different motivation to help
>> other nations and stay there for more than 60 years?
>>
>
>
> Of course not.
>
> It's a matter of survival. You know, NATO etc...
>
> Would you prefer China or Russia to the US?
>
> JT

Starshiy

July 11th 08, 10:09 PM

Yep, but definitevely not buying US gaz guzzlers cars ....

hielan' laddie

July 14th 08, 03:17 PM

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:46:48 -0400, Jim Morris wrote
(in article >):

>
> You still driving that G4 or did you move to a Windows Machine?

Look at the headers.

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.13)
Gecko/20060414

He's on a Mac. Why would he downgrade?

Peter Hucker[_2_]

July 15th 08, 08:03 PM

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:17:47 -0400, hielan' laddie
> wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:46:48 -0400, Jim Morris wrote
>(in article >):
>
>>
>> You still driving that G4 or did you move to a Windows Machine?
>
>Look at the headers.
>
>User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.13)
>Gecko/20060414
>
>He's on a Mac. Why would he downgrade?

You don't buy a wide guage train when the tracks are all narrow guage.
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A couple, both well into their 80s, go to a sex therapist's office. The
doctor asks, 'What can I do for you?
The man says, 'Will you watch us have sexual intercourse?'
The doctor raises both eyebrows, but he is so amazed that such an
elderly couple is asking for sexual advice that he agrees.
When the couple finishes, the doctor says, 'There's absolutely nothing
wrong with the way you have intercourse. 'He thanks them for coming,
wishes them good luck, charges them £50, and says goodbye.
The next week, however, the couple returns and asks the sex therapist
to watch again. The sex therapist is a bit puzzled, but
agrees. This happens several weeks in a row. The couple make an
appointment, have intercourse with no problems, pay the doctor, then
leave.
Finally, after 5 or 6 weeks of this routine, the doctor says, 'I'm
sorry, but I have to ask. Just what are you trying to find out?'
The old man says, 'We're not trying to find out anything. She's married
and we can't go to her house. I'm married and we
can't go to my house. Travelodge charge £93. The Hilton charges £139.
We do it here for £50, and I get £43 back from Bupa.'

hielan' laddie

July 17th 08, 03:24 AM

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:03:30 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
(in article >):

> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:17:47 -0400, hielan' laddie
> > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:46:48 -0400, Jim Morris wrote
>> (in article >):
>>
>>>
>>> You still driving that G4 or did you move to a Windows Machine?
>>
>> Look at the headers.
>>
>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US;
>> rv:1.7.13)
>> Gecko/20060414
>>
>> He's on a Mac. Why would he downgrade?
>
> You don't buy a wide guage train when the tracks are all narrow guage.
>

They've been wide-guage whereever I want to go...

Peter Hucker[_2_]

July 17th 08, 08:05 PM

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:24:34 -0400, hielan' laddie
> wrote:

>On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:03:30 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>(in article >):
>
>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:17:47 -0400, hielan' laddie
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:46:48 -0400, Jim Morris wrote
>>> (in article >):
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You still driving that G4 or did you move to a Windows Machine?
>>>
>>> Look at the headers.
>>>
>>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US;
>>> rv:1.7.13)
>>> Gecko/20060414
>>>
>>> He's on a Mac. Why would he downgrade?
>>
>> You don't buy a wide guage train when the tracks are all narrow guage.
>>
>
>They've been wide-guage whereever I want to go...

Any time you want a piece of software, you have to get a special
version (and no I won't use the emulator).
--
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hielan' laddie

July 24th 08, 04:37 AM

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:05:33 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
(in article >):

> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:24:34 -0400, hielan' laddie
> > wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:03:30 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>> (in article >):
>>
>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:17:47 -0400, hielan' laddie
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:46:48 -0400, Jim Morris wrote
>>>> (in article >):
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You still driving that G4 or did you move to a Windows Machine?
>>>>
>>>> Look at the headers.
>>>>
>>>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US;
>>>> rv:1.7.13)
>>>> Gecko/20060414
>>>>
>>>> He's on a Mac. Why would he downgrade?
>>>
>>> You don't buy a wide guage train when the tracks are all narrow guage.
>>>
>>
>> They've been wide-guage whereever I want to go...
>
> Any time you want a piece of software, you have to get a special
> version (and no I won't use the emulator).

No, I don't. Most of the software I use has no equivalent on any other OS.
Hogwasher, for example, is a Mac-only newsreader. If I need to use some
Windows-only software, I move over to my Windows box. The fact that I haven't
even booted my Windows box in over three weeks should let you know how
affected I am...

>

Peter Hucker[_2_]

July 24th 08, 07:33 PM

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:37:00 -0400, hielan' laddie
> wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:05:33 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>(in article >):
>
>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:24:34 -0400, hielan' laddie
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:03:30 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>>> (in article >):
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:17:47 -0400, hielan' laddie
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:46:48 -0400, Jim Morris wrote
>>>>> (in article >):
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You still driving that G4 or did you move to a Windows Machine?
>>>>>
>>>>> Look at the headers.
>>>>>
>>>>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US;
>>>>> rv:1.7.13)
>>>>> Gecko/20060414
>>>>>
>>>>> He's on a Mac. Why would he downgrade?
>>>>
>>>> You don't buy a wide guage train when the tracks are all narrow guage.
>>>>
>>>
>>> They've been wide-guage whereever I want to go...
>>
>> Any time you want a piece of software, you have to get a special
>> version (and no I won't use the emulator).
>
>No, I don't. Most of the software I use has no equivalent on any other OS.
>Hogwasher, for example, is a Mac-only newsreader. If I need to use some
>Windows-only software, I move over to my Windows box. The fact that I haven't
>even booted my Windows box in over three weeks should let you know how
>affected I am...

If you are looking for a particular piece of software, chances are the
first one you find will be for windows.

Why use a minority? Minorities must be extinguished.
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A Woman's Rule of Thumb: If it has tyres or testicles, you're going to have trouble with it.

hielan' laddie

July 25th 08, 05:55 AM

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:33:32 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
(in article >):

> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:37:00 -0400, hielan' laddie
> > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:05:33 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>> (in article >):
>>
>>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:24:34 -0400, hielan' laddie
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:03:30 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>>>> (in article >):
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:17:47 -0400, hielan' laddie
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:46:48 -0400, Jim Morris wrote
>>>>>> (in article >):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You still driving that G4 or did you move to a Windows Machine?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look at the headers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US;
>>>>>> rv:1.7.13)
>>>>>> Gecko/20060414
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He's on a Mac. Why would he downgrade?
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't buy a wide guage train when the tracks are all narrow guage.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They've been wide-guage whereever I want to go...
>>>
>>> Any time you want a piece of software, you have to get a special
>>> version (and no I won't use the emulator).
>>
>> No, I don't. Most of the software I use has no equivalent on any other OS.
>> Hogwasher, for example, is a Mac-only newsreader. If I need to use some
>> Windows-only software, I move over to my Windows box. The fact that I
>> haven't
>> even booted my Windows box in over three weeks should let you know how
>> affected I am...
>
> If you are looking for a particular piece of software, chances are the
> first one you find will be for windows.

Nope. Not the stuff I use on a daily basis.

>
> Why use a minority?

Because it does what I want, the way I want to do it, when I want to do it,
and doesn't give me any grief.

> Minorities must be extinguished.

Now you're sounding crazy.

>

Bob Harrington

July 25th 08, 09:28 AM

hielan' laddie > wrote in
:

> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:05:33 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
> (in article >):
>
>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:24:34 -0400, hielan' laddie
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:03:30 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>>> (in article >):
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:17:47 -0400, hielan' laddie
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:46:48 -0400, Jim Morris wrote
>>>>> (in article >):
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You still driving that G4 or did you move to a Windows Machine?
>>>>>
>>>>> Look at the headers.
>>>>>
>>>>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US;
>>>>> rv:1.7.13)
>>>>> Gecko/20060414
>>>>>
>>>>> He's on a Mac. Why would he downgrade?
>>>>
>>>> You don't buy a wide guage train when the tracks are all narrow
>>>> guage.
>>>>
>>>
>>> They've been wide-guage whereever I want to go...
>>
>> Any time you want a piece of software, you have to get a special
>> version (and no I won't use the emulator).
>
> No, I don't. Most of the software I use has no equivalent on any other
> OS. Hogwasher, for example, is a Mac-only newsreader. If I need to use
> some Windows-only software, I move over to my Windows box. The fact
> that I haven't even booted my Windows box in over three weeks should
> let you know how affected I am...

Well, I haven't booted my Mac in longer than that.

This could be, at least in part, because I don't have one... =}

I've got an Amiga, though. And a TRS-80!

Peter Hucker[_2_]

July 25th 08, 07:17 PM

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:55:55 -0400, hielan' laddie
> wrote:

>On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:33:32 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>(in article >):
>
>> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:37:00 -0400, hielan' laddie
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:05:33 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>>> (in article >):
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:24:34 -0400, hielan' laddie
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:03:30 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>>>>> (in article >):
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:17:47 -0400, hielan' laddie
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:46:48 -0400, Jim Morris wrote
>>>>>>> (in article >):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You still driving that G4 or did you move to a Windows Machine?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look at the headers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US;
>>>>>>> rv:1.7.13)
>>>>>>> Gecko/20060414
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He's on a Mac. Why would he downgrade?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't buy a wide guage train when the tracks are all narrow guage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They've been wide-guage whereever I want to go...
>>>>
>>>> Any time you want a piece of software, you have to get a special
>>>> version (and no I won't use the emulator).
>>>
>>> No, I don't. Most of the software I use has no equivalent on any other OS.
>>> Hogwasher, for example, is a Mac-only newsreader. If I need to use some
>>> Windows-only software, I move over to my Windows box. The fact that I
>>> haven't
>>> even booted my Windows box in over three weeks should let you know how
>>> affected I am...
>>
>> If you are looking for a particular piece of software, chances are the
>> first one you find will be for windows.
>
>Nope. Not the stuff I use on a daily basis.

Lucky you.

>> Why use a minority?
>
>Because it does what I want, the way I want to do it, when I want to do it,
>and doesn't give me any grief.

This is not unique to Macs.

>> Minorities must be extinguished.
>
>Now you're sounding crazy.

Why dya say that?
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hielan' laddie

July 26th 08, 01:28 PM

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:17:22 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
(in article >):

> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:55:55 -0400, hielan' laddie
> > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:33:32 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>> (in article >):
>>
>>> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:37:00 -0400, hielan' laddie
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:05:33 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>>>> (in article >):
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:24:34 -0400, hielan' laddie
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:03:30 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>>>>>> (in article >):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:17:47 -0400, hielan' laddie
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:46:48 -0400, Jim Morris wrote
>>>>>>>> (in article >):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You still driving that G4 or did you move to a Windows Machine?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Look at the headers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US;
>>>>>>>> rv:1.7.13)
>>>>>>>> Gecko/20060414
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He's on a Mac. Why would he downgrade?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You don't buy a wide guage train when the tracks are all narrow guage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They've been wide-guage whereever I want to go...
>>>>>
>>>>> Any time you want a piece of software, you have to get a special
>>>>> version (and no I won't use the emulator).
>>>>
>>>> No, I don't. Most of the software I use has no equivalent on any other
>>>> OS.
>>>> Hogwasher, for example, is a Mac-only newsreader. If I need to use some
>>>> Windows-only software, I move over to my Windows box. The fact that I
>>>> haven't
>>>> even booted my Windows box in over three weeks should let you know how
>>>> affected I am...
>>>
>>> If you are looking for a particular piece of software, chances are the
>>> first one you find will be for windows.
>>
>> Nope. Not the stuff I use on a daily basis.
>
> Lucky you.

Not especially. There are millions more like me.

>
>>> Why use a minority?
>>
>> Because it does what I want, the way I want to do it, when I want to do it,
>> and doesn't give me any grief.
>
> This is not unique to Macs.

Never said it was.

>
>>> Minorities must be extinguished.
>>
>> Now you're sounding crazy.
>
> Why dya say that?
>

Re-read what you said.

John Meyer

July 27th 08, 09:14 PM

In article >,
hielan' laddie > wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:17:22 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
> (in article >):
>
> > On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:55:55 -0400, hielan' laddie
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:33:32 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
> >> (in article >):
> >>
> >>> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:37:00 -0400, hielan' laddie
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:05:33 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
> >>>> (in article >):
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:24:34 -0400, hielan' laddie
> >>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:03:30 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
> >>>>>> (in article >):
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:17:47 -0400, hielan' laddie
> >>>>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:46:48 -0400, Jim Morris wrote
> >>>>>>>> (in article >):
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You still driving that G4 or did you move to a Windows Machine?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Look at the headers.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US;
> >>>>>>>> rv:1.7.13)
> >>>>>>>> Gecko/20060414
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> He's on a Mac. Why would he downgrade?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You don't buy a wide guage train when the tracks are all narrow
> >>>>>>> guage.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> They've been wide-guage whereever I want to go...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any time you want a piece of software, you have to get a special
> >>>>> version (and no I won't use the emulator).
> >>>>
> >>>> No, I don't. Most of the software I use has no equivalent on any other
> >>>> OS.
> >>>> Hogwasher, for example, is a Mac-only newsreader. If I need to use some
> >>>> Windows-only software, I move over to my Windows box. The fact that I
> >>>> haven't
> >>>> even booted my Windows box in over three weeks should let you know how
> >>>> affected I am...
> >>>
> >>> If you are looking for a particular piece of software, chances are the
> >>> first one you find will be for windows.
> >>
> >> Nope. Not the stuff I use on a daily basis.
> >
> > Lucky you.
>
> Not especially. There are millions more like me.
>
> >
> >>> Why use a minority?
> >>
> >> Because it does what I want, the way I want to do it, when I want to do
> >> it,
> >> and doesn't give me any grief.
> >
> > This is not unique to Macs.
>
> Never said it was.
>
> >
> >>> Minorities must be extinguished.
> >>
> >> Now you're sounding crazy.
> >
> > Why dya say that?
> >
>
> Re-read what you said.

Children!

Frank DeStefano

July 28th 08, 03:17 AM

On 2008-07-24 21:55:55 -0700, hielan' laddie
> said:

> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:33:32 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
> (in article >):
>
>> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:37:00 -0400, hielan' laddie
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:05:33 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>>> (in article >):
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:24:34 -0400, hielan' laddie
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:03:30 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>>>>> (in article >):
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:17:47 -0400, hielan' laddie
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:46:48 -0400, Jim Morris wrote
>>>>>>> (in article >):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You still driving that G4 or did you move to a Windows Machine?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look at the headers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US;
>>>>>>> rv:1.7.13)
>>>>>>> Gecko/20060414
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He's on a Mac. Why would he downgrade?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't buy a wide guage train when the tracks are all narrow guage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They've been wide-guage whereever I want to go...
>>>>
>>>> Any time you want a piece of software, you have to get a special
>>>> version (and no I won't use the emulator).
>>>
>>> No, I don't. Most of the software I use has no equivalent on any other OS.
>>> Hogwasher, for example, is a Mac-only newsreader. If I need to use some
>>> Windows-only software, I move over to my Windows box. The fact that I
>>> haven't
>>> even booted my Windows box in over three weeks should let you know how
>>> affected I am...
>>
>> If you are looking for a particular piece of software, chances are the
>> first one you find will be for windows.
>
> Nope. Not the stuff I use on a daily basis.
>
>>
>> Why use a minority?
>
> Because it does what I want, the way I want to do it, when I want to do it,
> and doesn't give me any grief.
>
>> Minorities must be extinguished.
>
> Now you're sounding crazy.

Poor PC

"Since any reasonable person would choose a Mac over a PC, Apple's
market share does provide us with an accurate reading of the percentage
of reasonable people in our society." -- Roger Ebert, Film Critic

Peter Hucker[_2_]

July 29th 08, 08:00 PM

On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:28:57 -0400, hielan' laddie
> wrote:

>On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:17:22 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>(in article >):
>
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:55:55 -0400, hielan' laddie
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:33:32 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>>> (in article >):
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:37:00 -0400, hielan' laddie
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:05:33 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>>>>> (in article >):
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:24:34 -0400, hielan' laddie
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:03:30 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>>>>>>> (in article >):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:17:47 -0400, hielan' laddie
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:46:48 -0400, Jim Morris wrote
>>>>>>>>> (in article >):
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You still driving that G4 or did you move to a Windows Machine?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Look at the headers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US;
>>>>>>>>> rv:1.7.13)
>>>>>>>>> Gecko/20060414
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He's on a Mac. Why would he downgrade?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You don't buy a wide guage train when the tracks are all narrow guage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They've been wide-guage whereever I want to go...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any time you want a piece of software, you have to get a special
>>>>>> version (and no I won't use the emulator).
>>>>>
>>>>> No, I don't. Most of the software I use has no equivalent on any other
>>>>> OS.
>>>>> Hogwasher, for example, is a Mac-only newsreader. If I need to use some
>>>>> Windows-only software, I move over to my Windows box. The fact that I
>>>>> haven't
>>>>> even booted my Windows box in over three weeks should let you know how
>>>>> affected I am...
>>>>
>>>> If you are looking for a particular piece of software, chances are the
>>>> first one you find will be for windows.
>>>
>>> Nope. Not the stuff I use on a daily basis.
>>
>> Lucky you.
>
>Not especially. There are millions more like me.

And billions like me.

>>>> Why use a minority?
>>>
>>> Because it does what I want, the way I want to do it, when I want to do it,
>>> and doesn't give me any grief.
>>
>> This is not unique to Macs.
>
>Never said it was.
>
>>
>>>> Minorities must be extinguished.
>>>
>>> Now you're sounding crazy.
>>
>> Why dya say that?
>
>Re-read what you said.

Done, still don't get you.
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July 29th 08, 08:02 PM

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:17:30 -0700, Frank DeStefano wrote:

>On 2008-07-24 21:55:55 -0700, hielan' laddie
> said:
>
>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:33:32 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>> (in article >):
>>
>>> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:37:00 -0400, hielan' laddie
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:05:33 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>>>> (in article >):
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:24:34 -0400, hielan' laddie
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:03:30 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>>>>>> (in article >):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:17:47 -0400, hielan' laddie
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:46:48 -0400, Jim Morris wrote
>>>>>>>> (in article >):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You still driving that G4 or did you move to a Windows Machine?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Look at the headers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US;
>>>>>>>> rv:1.7.13)
>>>>>>>> Gecko/20060414
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He's on a Mac. Why would he downgrade?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You don't buy a wide guage train when the tracks are all narrow guage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They've been wide-guage whereever I want to go...
>>>>>
>>>>> Any time you want a piece of software, you have to get a special
>>>>> version (and no I won't use the emulator).
>>>>
>>>> No, I don't. Most of the software I use has no equivalent on any other OS.
>>>> Hogwasher, for example, is a Mac-only newsreader. If I need to use some
>>>> Windows-only software, I move over to my Windows box. The fact that I
>>>> haven't
>>>> even booted my Windows box in over three weeks should let you know how
>>>> affected I am...
>>>
>>> If you are looking for a particular piece of software, chances are the
>>> first one you find will be for windows.
>>
>> Nope. Not the stuff I use on a daily basis.
>>
>>>
>>> Why use a minority?
>>
>> Because it does what I want, the way I want to do it, when I want to do it,
>> and doesn't give me any grief.
>>
>>> Minorities must be extinguished.
>>
>> Now you're sounding crazy.
>
>Poor PC

That part is right. If you're poor, you buy a PC. Two out of the
three mac users I work with have bought PCs because Apple prices are
"absolutely stupid".

>"Since any reasonable person would choose a Mac over a PC, Apple's
>market share does provide us with an accurate reading of the percentage
>of reasonable people in our society." -- Roger Ebert, Film Critic
>
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