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jgalban
July 16th 08, 01:43 PM
A backcountry newb in a Mooney managed to land long and plow into a pickup
truck at an Idaho backcountry strip. I saw the Mooney after the crash and
it was bent, but mostly intact. My real surprise came when I flew into the
strip and saw the truck :

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n178/flynrider/IMG_0738.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n178/flynrider/IMG_0737.jpg

Yikes! Somebody up there must have been watching out for this pilot. He
and his passenger both lived.

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

Robert M. Gary
July 16th 08, 07:51 PM
On Jul 16, 5:43*am, "JGalban" <u32749@uwe> wrote:
> * A backcountry newb in a Mooney managed to land long and plow into a pickup
> truck at an Idaho backcountry strip. * *I saw the Mooney after the crash and
> it was bent, but mostly intact. *My real surprise came when I flew into the
> strip and saw the truck :
>
> http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n178/flynrider/IMG_0738.jpg
>
> http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n178/flynrider/IMG_0737.jpg
>
> * Yikes! *Somebody up there must have been watching out for this pilot. *He
> and his passenger both lived.
>
> John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

Nevada plates?

More_Flaps
July 16th 08, 09:32 PM
JGalban wrote:

> A backcountry newb in a Mooney managed to land long and plow into a pickup
> truck at an Idaho backcountry strip. I saw the Mooney after the crash and
> it was bent, but mostly intact. My real surprise came when I flew into the
> strip and saw the truck :
>
> http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n178/flynrider/IMG_0738.jpg
>
> http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n178/flynrider/IMG_0737.jpg
>
> Yikes! Somebody up there must have been watching out for this pilot. He
> and his passenger both lived.
>


Hmm, no engine in the truck?

Robert M. Gary
July 16th 08, 09:53 PM
On Jul 16, 1:32*pm, More_Flaps > wrote:
> JGalban wrote:

> Hmm, no engine in the truck?

I wouldn't be surprised if the truck looked pretty much like that
before the accident. I had an accident with a truck in my Mooney (in
Mexico). My wing got smashed pretty good but not a scratch on the
truck. Airplanes are made of pretty soft metal.

-robert

July 16th 08, 10:56 PM
On Jul 16, 6:43*am, "JGalban" <u32749@uwe> wrote:
> * A backcountry newb in a Mooney managed to land long and plow into a pickup
> truck at an Idaho backcountry strip. * *I saw the Mooney after the crash and
> it was bent, but mostly intact. *My real surprise came when I flew into the
> strip and saw the truck :
>
> http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n178/flynrider/IMG_0738.jpg
>
> http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n178/flynrider/IMG_0737.jpg
>
> * Yikes! *Somebody up there must have been watching out for this pilot. *He
> and his passenger both lived.
>
> John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

It never ceases to amaze me how many pilots fly into Idaho from
California and attempt to land at a backcountry strip without any
experience. We typically have at least 1 fatal a year because of
this.

There is an outfit in McCall that offers backcountry flight
instruction with experience instructors. If you want to land in the
Idaho backcountry, please get a backcountry orientation and checkout
flight with an experienced instructor first. Your life could depend
on it.

Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
July 17th 08, 12:32 AM
"JGalban" <u32749@uwe> wrote in news:8738babbddf4f@uwe:

> A backcountry newb in a Mooney managed to land long and plow into a
> pickup
> truck at an Idaho backcountry strip. I saw the Mooney after the
> crash and it was bent, but mostly intact. My real surprise came when
> I flew into the strip and saw the truck :
>
> http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n178/flynrider/IMG_0738.jpg
>
> http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n178/flynrider/IMG_0737.jpg
>
> Yikes! Somebody up there must have been watching out for this
> pilot. He
> and his passenger both lived.
>
> John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)
>

It has to be the truck in the background!
No way an airplane is going to do that much damage unless it hit the truck
at very high speed and pretty much obliterated itself...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfZDtC9kjVk


Bertie

JGalban via AviationKB.com
July 17th 08, 04:37 AM
More_Flaps wrote:
>
>Hmm, no engine in the truck?

It's in there. It's just that the radiator assembly is folded back on top
of it. You can see the air cleaner housing peaking out.

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

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JGalban via AviationKB.com
July 17th 08, 04:49 AM
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
>
>It has to be the truck in the background!
>No way an airplane is going to do that much damage unless it hit the truck
>at very high speed and pretty much obliterated itself...
>

Nope. That's the one that the Mooney hit. A Mooney mechanic friend took
a look at the pics and he figures that it was a combination of the mass of
the engine, plus the sturdy steel cage in the Mooney.

BTW, the plane did hit the truck at a pretty high speed. He had firewalled
it to attempt a go-around about 500 ft. before impact. He was pretty close
to takeoff speed.

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

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Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
July 17th 08, 06:54 AM
"JGalban via AviationKB.com" <u32749@uwe> wrote in
news:8743a415138a6@uwe:

> Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
>>
>>It has to be the truck in the background!
>>No way an airplane is going to do that much damage unless it hit the
>>truck at very high speed and pretty much obliterated itself...
>>
>
> Nope. That's the one that the Mooney hit. A Mooney mechanic
> friend took
> a look at the pics and he figures that it was a combination of the
> mass of the engine, plus the sturdy steel cage in the Mooney.
>
> BTW, the plane did hit the truck at a pretty high speed. He had
> firewalled
> it to attempt a go-around about 500 ft. before impact. He was pretty
> close to takeoff speed.
>

Ah, OK. i hadn't expected the engine to have been part of the accident,
really. Even then, that's an amazing amount of damage. It's kind of the
equivelant of a beercan hitting a dumpster except for the engine. Amazing
the occupants of the Mooney weren't killed.


Bertie

Uli
July 17th 08, 10:35 AM
JGalban via AviationKB.com wrote:

> BTW, the plane did hit the truck at a pretty high speed. He had
> firewalled
> it to attempt a go-around about 500 ft. before impact. He was pretty
> close to takeoff speed.
>

pretty late to decide for a go-arround on an uphill strip with trees at it's
end (i guess it's big cr). i'm not so sure if a mooney should be my first
choice for that kind of flying...

besides, i can only repeat what dean already said: don't fly the backcountry
without experience. flying, especially taking off and landing, is very
different from what most pilots are used to.


cheers,
uli

Stealth Pilot[_2_]
July 17th 08, 11:10 AM
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:54:03 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip >
wrote:

>"JGalban via AviationKB.com" <u32749@uwe> wrote in
>news:8743a415138a6@uwe:
>
>> Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
>>>
>>>It has to be the truck in the background!
>>>No way an airplane is going to do that much damage unless it hit the
>>>truck at very high speed and pretty much obliterated itself...
>>>
>>
>> Nope. That's the one that the Mooney hit. A Mooney mechanic
>> friend took
>> a look at the pics and he figures that it was a combination of the
>> mass of the engine, plus the sturdy steel cage in the Mooney.
>>
>> BTW, the plane did hit the truck at a pretty high speed. He had
>> firewalled
>> it to attempt a go-around about 500 ft. before impact. He was pretty
>> close to takeoff speed.
>>
>
>Ah, OK. i hadn't expected the engine to have been part of the accident,
>really. Even then, that's an amazing amount of damage. It's kind of the
>equivelant of a beercan hitting a dumpster except for the engine. Amazing
>the occupants of the Mooney weren't killed.
>
>
>Bertie

amazes me that there are no prop strike marks on the truck.
considering that it was almost airborne.
curiouser and curiouser.

Stealth (fishy) pilot

Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
July 17th 08, 11:53 AM
Stealth Pilot > wrote in
:

> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:54:03 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip >
> wrote:
>
>>"JGalban via AviationKB.com" <u32749@uwe> wrote in
>>news:8743a415138a6@uwe:
>>
>>> Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
>>>>
>>>>It has to be the truck in the background!
>>>>No way an airplane is going to do that much damage unless it hit the
>>>>truck at very high speed and pretty much obliterated itself...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nope. That's the one that the Mooney hit. A Mooney mechanic
>>> friend took
>>> a look at the pics and he figures that it was a combination of the
>>> mass of the engine, plus the sturdy steel cage in the Mooney.
>>>
>>> BTW, the plane did hit the truck at a pretty high speed. He had
>>> firewalled
>>> it to attempt a go-around about 500 ft. before impact. He was
>>> pretty close to takeoff speed.
>>>
>>
>>Ah, OK. i hadn't expected the engine to have been part of the
>>accident, really. Even then, that's an amazing amount of damage. It's
>>kind of the equivelant of a beercan hitting a dumpster except for the
>>engine. Amazing the occupants of the Mooney weren't killed.
>>
>>
>>Bertie
>
> amazes me that there are no prop strike marks on the truck.
> considering that it was almost airborne.
> curiouser and curiouser.


Yeah, I agree. It just doesn't look like an airplane hit it. It looks
more like it lived in Oklahoma for a while.


Bertie

Maxwell[_2_]
July 17th 08, 01:04 PM
"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> "JGalban" <u32749@uwe> wrote in news:8738babbddf4f@uwe:
>
>> A backcountry newb in a Mooney managed to land long and plow into a
>> pickup
>> truck at an Idaho backcountry strip. I saw the Mooney after the
>> crash and it was bent, but mostly intact. My real surprise came when
>> I flew into the strip and saw the truck :
>>
>> http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n178/flynrider/IMG_0738.jpg
>>
>> http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n178/flynrider/IMG_0737.jpg
>>
>> Yikes! Somebody up there must have been watching out for this
>> pilot. He
>> and his passenger both lived.
>>
>> John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)
>>
>
> It has to be the truck in the background!
> No way an airplane is going to do that much damage unless it hit the truck
> at very high speed and pretty much obliterated itself...
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfZDtC9kjVk
>
>

Yeah, that was real helpful, Captain Youtube.

Maxwell[_2_]
July 17th 08, 01:07 PM
"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> Stealth Pilot > wrote in
> :
>
>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:54:03 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> amazes me that there are no prop strike marks on the truck.
>> considering that it was almost airborne.
>> curiouser and curiouser.
>
>
> Yeah, I agree. It just doesn't look like an airplane hit it. It looks
> more like it lived in Oklahoma for a while.
>
>
> Bertie
>

Well we will all reserve our final opinion of the situation pending your
joint decision on the incident.

Be sure and let us know when you two have finished your professional
investigation (of the photograph).

Stealth Pilot[_2_]
July 17th 08, 02:59 PM
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:07:51 -0500, "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net>
wrote:

>
>"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
>> Stealth Pilot > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:54:03 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> amazes me that there are no prop strike marks on the truck.
>>> considering that it was almost airborne.
>>> curiouser and curiouser.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, I agree. It just doesn't look like an airplane hit it. It looks
>> more like it lived in Oklahoma for a while.
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>>
>
>Well we will all reserve our final opinion of the situation pending your
>joint decision on the incident.
>
>Be sure and let us know when you two have finished your professional
>investigation (of the photograph).
>

clueless non aviation wannabe.

Morgans[_2_]
July 17th 08, 03:00 PM
"Stealth Pilot" > wrote
>
> amazes me that there are no prop strike marks on the truck.
> considering that it was almost airborne.
> curiouser and curiouser.

Considering that a run-of-the-mil prop is advancing close to 6 feet per
revolution, and that the plane was nearly at take-off speed, that would give
a 3 foot advance before one of the two blades would hit anything.

From that wretched wreck, it would be hard to see if the prop hit one time,
or even two, and after that, there probably wouldn't be any prop left to hit
anything, if you know what I mean!
--
Jim in NC

More_Flaps
July 17th 08, 03:01 PM
On Jul 17, 3:37*pm, "JGalban via AviationKB.com" <u32749@uwe> wrote:
> More_Flaps wrote:
>
> >Hmm, no engine in the truck?
>
> * It's in there. *It's just that the radiator assembly is folded back on top
> of it. *You can see the air cleaner housing peaking out.
>

Is it your photo -did you see the engine? The pattern of damage looks
very strange for a collision with a plane -why did the truck get
neatly turned around? What was the reg of the plane?

Cheers

Mike Isaksen
July 17th 08, 03:14 PM
"JGalban" wrote ...
> A Mooney mechanic friend took a look at the pics and
> he figures that it was a combination of the mass of
> the engine, plus the sturdy steel cage in the Mooney.
>

Mooney has a steel cage?

Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
July 17th 08, 03:17 PM
"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "JGalban" <u32749@uwe> wrote in news:8738babbddf4f@uwe:
>>
>>> A backcountry newb in a Mooney managed to land long and plow into
>>> a pickup
>>> truck at an Idaho backcountry strip. I saw the Mooney after the
>>> crash and it was bent, but mostly intact. My real surprise came
>>> when I flew into the strip and saw the truck :
>>>
>>> http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n178/flynrider/IMG_0738.jpg
>>>
>>> http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n178/flynrider/IMG_0737.jpg
>>>
>>> Yikes! Somebody up there must have been watching out for this
>>> pilot. He
>>> and his passenger both lived.
>>>
>>> John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)
>>>
>>
>> It has to be the truck in the background!
>> No way an airplane is going to do that much damage unless it hit the
>> truck at very high speed and pretty much obliterated itself...
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfZDtC9kjVk
>>
>>
>
> Yeah, that was real helpful, Captain Youtube.
>

You're welcome lieutenant fjukkkktard.



Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
July 17th 08, 03:19 PM
"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:NCGfk.20661$%q.44
@newsfe24.lga:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Stealth Pilot > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:54:03 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> amazes me that there are no prop strike marks on the truck.
>>> considering that it was almost airborne.
>>> curiouser and curiouser.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, I agree. It just doesn't look like an airplane hit it. It looks
>> more like it lived in Oklahoma for a while.
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>>
>
> Well we will all reserve our final opinion of the situation pending
your
> joint decision on the incident.


Good decision.
>
> Be sure and let us know when you two have finished your professional
> investigation (of the photograph).


OK, will do lieutenant fjukktard.



Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
July 17th 08, 03:23 PM
"Mike Isaksen" > wrote in news:btIfk.451$6O4.14
@trnddc06:

>
> "JGalban" wrote ...
>> A Mooney mechanic friend took a look at the pics and
>> he figures that it was a combination of the mass of
>> the engine, plus the sturdy steel cage in the Mooney.
>>
>
> Mooney has a steel cage?
>
>
>

Well, not a steel cage, but the forward half of the fuselage is a steel
tube structure, just like a cub.


Bertie

Morgans[_2_]
July 17th 08, 03:25 PM
"Mike Isaksen" > wrote in message
news:btIfk.451$6O4.14@trnddc06...
>
> "JGalban" wrote ...
>> A Mooney mechanic friend took a look at the pics and
>> he figures that it was a combination of the mass of
>> the engine, plus the sturdy steel cage in the Mooney.
>>
>
> Mooney has a steel cage?

Yep. Firewall to the back of the passenger area. Strange combination of
methods.
--
Jim in NC

Maxwell[_2_]
July 17th 08, 03:36 PM
"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Stealth Pilot" > wrote
>>
>> amazes me that there are no prop strike marks on the truck.
>> considering that it was almost airborne.
>> curiouser and curiouser.
>
> Considering that a run-of-the-mil prop is advancing close to 6 feet per
> revolution, and that the plane was nearly at take-off speed, that would
> give a 3 foot advance before one of the two blades would hit anything.
>
> From that wretched wreck, it would be hard to see if the prop hit one
> time, or even two, and after that, there probably wouldn't be any prop
> left to hit anything, if you know what I mean!
> --
> Jim in NC
>

Yeah, but you are actually using math and logic.

Mike Isaksen
July 17th 08, 03:38 PM
"Morgans" wrote ...
>
> "Mike Isaksen" wrote ...
>> Mooney has a steel cage?
>
> Yep. Firewall to the back of the passenger area. Strange
> combination of methods.
>

Thanks, been in aviation a long time and never noted that.

Maxwell[_2_]
July 17th 08, 03:40 PM
"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
>
> Ah, OK. i hadn't expected the engine to have been part of the accident,
> really. Even then, that's an amazing amount of damage. It's kind of the
> equivelant of a beercan hitting a dumpster except for the engine. Amazing
> the occupants of the Mooney weren't killed.
>
>
> Bertie

Duh, a front engine aircraft hit a vehicle on take off run, and you don't
think the engine is going to be part of the accident.

Maxwell[_2_]
July 17th 08, 03:40 PM
"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> "Mike Isaksen" > wrote in news:btIfk.451$6O4.14
> @trnddc06:
>
>>
>> "JGalban" wrote ...
>>> A Mooney mechanic friend took a look at the pics and
>>> he figures that it was a combination of the mass of
>>> the engine, plus the sturdy steel cage in the Mooney.
>>>
>>
>> Mooney has a steel cage?
>>
>>
>>
>
> Well, not a steel cage, but the forward half of the fuselage is a steel
> tube structure, just like a cub.
>
>
> Bertie

Well duh, would that not be a steel cage like a cub?

Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
July 17th 08, 04:19 PM
"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Ah, OK. i hadn't expected the engine to have been part of the
>> accident, really. Even then, that's an amazing amount of damage. It's
>> kind of the equivelant of a beercan hitting a dumpster except for the
>> engine. Amazing the occupants of the Mooney weren't killed.
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Duh, a front engine aircraft hit a vehicle on take off run, and you
> don't think the engine is going to be part of the accident.
>


Awww, miss your naptime wannabe boi?


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
July 17th 08, 04:20 PM
"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:aSIfk.20665$%q.10483
@newsfe24.lga:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Mike Isaksen" > wrote in news:btIfk.451$6O4.14
>> @trnddc06:
>>
>>>
>>> "JGalban" wrote ...
>>>> A Mooney mechanic friend took a look at the pics and
>>>> he figures that it was a combination of the mass of
>>>> the engine, plus the sturdy steel cage in the Mooney.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Mooney has a steel cage?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well, not a steel cage, but the forward half of the fuselage is a steel
>> tube structure, just like a cub.
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Well duh, would that not be a steel cage like a cub?


It's not a cage, fjukktard. It's a structure.



Bertie

Maxwell[_2_]
July 17th 08, 04:45 PM
"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
> :
>
>>
>> Duh, a front engine aircraft hit a vehicle on take off run, and you
>> don't think the engine is going to be part of the accident.
>>
>
>
> Awww, miss your naptime wannabe boi?
>
>
> Bertie

No, sounds like you did, dumb ass. You think a Mooney can hit a vehicle at
take off speed, and do nothing but superficial damage. Priceless.

Maxwell[_2_]
July 17th 08, 04:46 PM
"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> It's not a cage, fjukktard. It's a structure.
>
>
>
> Bertie

And how do you think you or Bill Clinton would define the difference?

Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
July 17th 08, 06:31 PM
"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>> :
>>
>>>
>>> Duh, a front engine aircraft hit a vehicle on take off run, and you
>>> don't think the engine is going to be part of the accident.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Awww, miss your naptime wannabe boi?
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> No, sounds like you did, dumb ass. You think a Mooney can hit a
> vehicle at take off speed, and do nothing but superficial damage.
> Priceless.

You're more than priceless luserboi!


And care to point out where I said that, precisely?



Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
July 17th 08, 06:32 PM
"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:uPJfk.20670$%q.7585
@newsfe24.lga:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> It's not a cage, fjukktard. It's a structure.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> And how do you think you or Bill Clinton would define the difference?


Simple.

A cage is what you live in and a structure serves an engineering function.


Bertie

Maxwell[_2_]
July 17th 08, 06:56 PM
"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:uPJfk.20670$%q.7585
> @newsfe24.lga:
>
>>
>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> It's not a cage, fjukktard. It's a structure.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bertie
>>
>> And how do you think you or Bill Clinton would define the difference?
>
>
> Simple.
>
> A cage is what you live in and a structure serves an engineering function.
>
>
> Bertie

Good job Anthony II, start your little hat dance.

Maxwell[_2_]
July 17th 08, 06:57 PM
"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
> :
>
>>
>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>>> :
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Duh, a front engine aircraft hit a vehicle on take off run, and you
>>>> don't think the engine is going to be part of the accident.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Awww, miss your naptime wannabe boi?
>>>
>>>
>>> Bertie
>>
>> No, sounds like you did, dumb ass. You think a Mooney can hit a
>> vehicle at take off speed, and do nothing but superficial damage.
>> Priceless.
>
> You're more than priceless luserboi!
>
>
> And care to point out where I said that, precisely?
>
>
>
> Bertie

Time for the hat dance.

Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
July 17th 08, 07:03 PM
"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
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> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
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>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:uPJfk.20670$%q.7585
>> @newsfe24.lga:
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>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
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>>>> It's not a cage, fjukktard. It's a structure.
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>>>> Bertie
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>>> And how do you think you or Bill Clinton would define the
>>> difference?
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>> Simple.
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>> A cage is what you live in and a structure serves an engineering
>> function.
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>> Bertie
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> Good job Anthony II, start your little hat dance.
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Kay tardboi..



Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
July 17th 08, 07:03 PM
"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:RJLfk.2308$YX6.2196
@newsfe04.iad:

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> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
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>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
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>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
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>>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
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>>>>> Duh, a front engine aircraft hit a vehicle on take off run, and
you
>>>>> don't think the engine is going to be part of the accident.
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>>>> Awww, miss your naptime wannabe boi?
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>>>> Bertie
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>>> No, sounds like you did, dumb ass. You think a Mooney can hit a
>>> vehicle at take off speed, and do nothing but superficial damage.
>>> Priceless.
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>> You're more than priceless luserboi!
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>> And care to point out where I said that, precisely?
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>> Bertie
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> Time for the hat dance.
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IOW you can't.

As usual.


Fjukkkwit.



Bertie

JGalban via AviationKB.com
July 17th 08, 09:27 PM
More_Flaps wrote:
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>Is it your photo -did you see the engine? The pattern of damage looks
>very strange for a collision with a plane -why did the truck get
>neatly turned around? What was the reg of the plane?
>

You are a suspicious one, aren't you? :-) Yes, I personally took the
photos and I saw the engine. The truck was repositioned (back end toward
the strip) after the accident because it was blocking a road.

Here's the NTSB preliminary :
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20080710X01006&key=1

Note that he comments that he made a low pass over the strip to check it
out. My sources say he came in high and fast the first time and had to go
around.


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JGalban via AviationKB.com
July 17th 08, 09:37 PM
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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>Yeah, I agree. It just doesn't look like an airplane hit it. It looks
>more like it lived in Oklahoma for a while.
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Yep. It looks more like the truck hit another truck.

Initially, I'd heard on the backcountry grapevine that a Mooney had taken
off the top of a truck. After seeing the Mooney go by at the strip I was
camped at, I didn't expect that level of damage. Hence, the title of my post.


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