any recommendations for a place to get a cheap commercial MES?

[buttman]

The only place within reasonable driving distance from where I live
that will do a MES commercial charges $500 an hour in a twin sea bee.
I figure it may be cheaper to spend the money on a airline ticket and
a week's stay in a hotel in order to get it done somewhere in a Apache
or something on floats for $200 an hour...

Also, would it be best to get the SES first (which is a LOT cheaper),
then spend like 2 hours transitioning to the MES, or will I still need
8+ hours of MES time in order to pass the checkride? In other words,
if you already have your SES and your MEL, is a MES more or less a
formality, or will there most likely have to do a lot more training?
Remember, my goal here is to get the rating with the least money as
possible.

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

buttman > wrote in news:65bd0c17-cf80-42d9-bf3f-
:

> The only place within reasonable driving distance from where I live
> that will do a MES commercial charges $500 an hour in a twin sea bee.
> I figure it may be cheaper to spend the money on a airline ticket and
> a week's stay in a hotel in order to get it done somewhere in a Apache
> or something on floats for $200 an hour...


Snort!

there's only one apache on floats, fjukkwit.

Maybe you can do it in a Cessna 150 with a Cox engine screwed on the
outside.




Bertie

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> buttman > wrote in news:65bd0c17-cf80-42d9-bf3f-
> :
>
>> The only place within reasonable driving distance from where I live
>> that will do a MES commercial charges $500 an hour in a twin sea bee.
>> I figure it may be cheaper to spend the money on a airline ticket and
>> a week's stay in a hotel in order to get it done somewhere in a Apache
>> or something on floats for $200 an hour...
>
>
> Snort!
>
> there's only one apache on floats, fjukkwit.
>
> Maybe you can do it in a Cessna 150 with a Cox engine screwed on the
> outside.
>

What a retard. If you don't have any info, why don't you just shut the ****
up?

[Steve Foley]

"buttman" > wrote in message
...
> The only place within reasonable driving distance from where I live
> that will do a MES commercial charges $500 an hour in a twin sea bee.
> I figure it may be cheaper to spend the money on a airline ticket and
> a week's stay in a hotel in order to get it done somewhere in a Apache
> or something on floats for $200 an hour...
>
> Also, would it be best to get the SES first (which is a LOT cheaper),
> then spend like 2 hours transitioning to the MES, or will I still need
> 8+ hours of MES time in order to pass the checkride? In other words,
> if you already have your SES and your MEL, is a MES more or less a
> formality, or will there most likely have to do a lot more training?
> Remember, my goal here is to get the rating with the least money as
> possible.

Have you checked http://www.seaplanes.org

You 'll need to search by state, but they seem to have rates for most
places.

[buttman]

On Jul 17, 7:03*am, "Steve Foley" > wrote:
> "buttman" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > The only place within reasonable driving distance from where I live
> > that will do a MES commercial charges $500 an hour in a twin sea bee.
> > I figure it may be cheaper to spend the money on a airline ticket and
> > a week's stay in a hotel in order to get it done somewhere in a Apache
> > or something on floats for $200 an hour...
>
> > Also, would it be best to get the SES first (which is a LOT cheaper),
> > then spend like 2 hours transitioning to the MES, or will I still need
> > 8+ hours of MES time in order to pass the checkride? In other words,
> > if you already have your SES and your MEL, is a MES more or less a
> > formality, or will there most likely have to do a lot more training?
> > Remember, my goal here is to get the rating with the least money as
> > possible.
>
> Have you checkedhttp://www.seaplanes.org
>
> You 'll need to search by state, but they seem to have rates for most
> places.

yes, I've read through every single one of the states. I doubt that
list is totally comprehensive. I was hoping someone knew of a smaller,
much cheaper operation tucked away somewhere...

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> buttman > wrote in news:65bd0c17-cf80-42d9-bf3f-
>> :
>>
>>> The only place within reasonable driving distance from where I live
>>> that will do a MES commercial charges $500 an hour in a twin sea
>>> bee. I figure it may be cheaper to spend the money on a airline
>>> ticket and a week's stay in a hotel in order to get it done
>>> somewhere in a Apache or something on floats for $200 an hour...
>>
>>
>> Snort!
>>
>> there's only one apache on floats, fjukkwit.
>>
>> Maybe you can do it in a Cessna 150 with a Cox engine screwed on the
>> outside.
>>
>
> What a retard. If you don't have any info, why don't you just shut the
> **** up?
>
>
>
>
Because I know retards like you will whine about it and it amuses me to
see you do so.

Well, you did ask.

Fjukkwit.


Bertie

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...

> Because I know retards like you will whine about it and it amuses me to
> see you do so.
>
> Well, you did ask.
>
> Fjukkwit.
>
>
> Bertie

So you think is fun, to clutter a group that hundreds of fellow aviators
wish to use to share ideas, just for your solitary amusement?

[Gig 601Xl Builder]

Maxwell wrote:
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Because I know retards like you will whine about it and it amuses me to
>> see you do so.
>>
>> Well, you did ask.
>>
>> Fjukkwit.
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> So you think is fun, to clutter a group that hundreds of fellow aviators
> wish to use to share ideas, just for your solitary amusement?
>
>

And what do you thing you are doing.

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Gig 601Xl Builder" > wrote in message
...
> Maxwell wrote:
>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Because I know retards like you will whine about it and it amuses me to
>>> see you do so.
>>>
>>> Well, you did ask.
>>>
>>> Fjukkwit.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bertie
>>
>> So you think is fun, to clutter a group that hundreds of fellow aviators
>> wish to use to share ideas, just for your solitary amusement?
>
> And what do you thing you are doing.

Gee, I wonder?????

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:SMIfk.20662$%q.1865
@newsfe24.lga:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Because I know retards like you will whine about it and it amuses me to
>> see you do so.
>>
>> Well, you did ask.
>>
>> Fjukkwit.
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> So you think is fun, to clutter a group that hundreds of fellow aviators
> wish to use to share ideas, just for your solitary amusement?
>

I'm not the one doing that, fjukkwit.


You are.

I'm just provoking you into doing it!


Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
:

>
> "Gig 601Xl Builder" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Maxwell wrote:
>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Because I know retards like you will whine about it and it amuses
>>>> me to see you do so.
>>>>
>>>> Well, you did ask.
>>>>
>>>> Fjukkwit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>> So you think is fun, to clutter a group that hundreds of fellow
>>> aviators wish to use to share ideas, just for your solitary
>>> amusement?
>>
>> And what do you thing you are doing.
>
> Gee, I wonder?????
>
>
>

Providing the entertainment, of course.

if you believe that you're going to either get rid of me, or ostracise
me , you are sadly mistaken, fjukktard.


Now, on with the Maxie show!


Bertie

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:SMIfk.20662$%q.1865
> @newsfe24.lga:
>
>>
>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Because I know retards like you will whine about it and it amuses me to
>>> see you do so.
>>>
>>> Well, you did ask.
>>>
>>> Fjukkwit.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bertie
>>
>> So you think is fun, to clutter a group that hundreds of fellow aviators
>> wish to use to share ideas, just for your solitary amusement?
>>
>
> I'm not the one doing that, fjukkwit.
>
>
> You are.
>
> I'm just provoking you into doing it!
>
>
> Bertie

Sure Captain clueless, kook on out.

[Gig 601Xl Builder]

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

> I'm not the one doing that, fjukkwit.
>
>
> You are.
>
> I'm just provoking you into doing it!
>
>
> Bertie

Yes you are Bertie and So is he. Why don't you too just call a truce for
one week? Let's see what happens.

[Robert M. Gary]

On Jul 17, 4:33*am, buttman > wrote:
> The only place within reasonable driving distance from where I live
> that will do a MES commercial charges $500 an hour in a twin sea bee.
> I figure it may be cheaper to spend the money on a airline ticket and
> a week's stay in a hotel in order to get it done somewhere in a Apache
> or something on floats for $200 an hour...
>
> Also, would it be best to get the SES first (which is a LOT cheaper),
> then spend like 2 hours transitioning to the MES, or will I still need
> 8+ hours of MES time in order to pass the checkride? In other words,
> if you already have your SES and your MEL, is a MES more or less a
> formality, or will there most likely have to do a lot more training?
> Remember, my goal here is to get the rating with the least money as
> possible.

Norcal aviation used to do MES training in an Apache. Terri sold the
business and I'm not sure if they are still operating or not but you
might check them. I think their website was norcalaviation.com

-Robert

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:SMIfk.20662$%q.1865
>> @newsfe24.lga:
>>
>>>
>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Because I know retards like you will whine about it and it amuses
>>>> me to see you do so.
>>>>
>>>> Well, you did ask.
>>>>
>>>> Fjukkwit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>> So you think is fun, to clutter a group that hundreds of fellow
>>> aviators wish to use to share ideas, just for your solitary
>>> amusement?
>>>
>>
>> I'm not the one doing that, fjukkwit.
>>
>>
>> You are.
>>
>> I'm just provoking you into doing it!
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Sure Captain clueless, kook on out.



Voila.


Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

Gig 601Xl Builder > wrote in news:5PWdnWt4_f409-
:

> Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
>
>> I'm not the one doing that, fjukkwit.
>>
>>
>> You are.
>>
>> I'm just provoking you into doing it!
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Yes you are Bertie and So is he. Why don't you too just call a truce for
> one week? Let's see what happens.
>

You think it's a fight?

Nah, I do this all the time. It's "what I do"

Find a k00k and paly with him until I tire of it.

So far I haven't tired of anyone...



Bertie

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
>
> You think it's a fight?
>
> Nah, I do this all the time. It's "what I do"
>
> Find a k00k and paly with him until I tire of it.
>
> So far I haven't tired of anyone...
>
>
>
> Bertie

Liar.

You're trying to moderate the group by ****ing on every thread or every
person you happened to disagree with.

Do I need to start posting the names of people on your hate list?

Like me, Honeck, Buttman, Galban, etc.

You are nothing more than a loud mouthed liar with serious control issues,
and you are hell bent on either controlling this group, or destroying it.
And everyone that supports your presence here, is just as guilty as you are.

All this troll bull**** is just a bunch of smoke.

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> You think it's a fight?
>>
>> Nah, I do this all the time. It's "what I do"
>>
>> Find a k00k and paly with him until I tire of it.
>>
>> So far I haven't tired of anyone...
>>
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Liar.
>
> You're trying to moderate the group by ****ing on every thread or
> every person you happened to disagree with.

Nope.
I just talk about airplanes, luser boi.

That is, unto a worthwhile k00k comes along.
>
> Do I need to start posting the names of people on your hate list?
>
> Like me, Honeck, Buttman, Galban, etc.


A new lits!
>
> You are nothing more than a loud mouthed liar with serious control
> issues, and you are hell bent on either controlling this group, or
> destroying it. And everyone that supports your presence here, is just
> as guilty as you are.


Ooow! Temper, temper.
>
> All this troll bull**** is just a bunch of smoke.
>

Troll? Moi?

You don't know the meaning of the word.

Bertie

[[email protected]]

On Jul 17, 9:55 am, "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote:
> "Gig 601Xl Builder" > wrote in ...
>
>
>
> > Maxwell wrote:
> >> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> >>> Because I know retards like you will whine about it and it amuses me to
> >>> see you do so.
>
> >>> Well, you did ask.
>
> >>> Fjukkwit.
>
> >>> Bertie
>
> >> So you think is fun, to clutter a group that hundreds of fellow aviators
> >> wish to use to share ideas, just for your solitary amusement?
>
> > And what do you thing you are doing.
>
> Gee, I wonder?????

You would.

[[email protected]]

On Jul 17, 6:48 am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> buttman > wrote in news:65bd0c17-cf80-42d9-bf3f-
> :
>
> > The only place within reasonable driving distance from where I live
> > that will do a MES commercial charges $500 an hour in a twin sea bee.
> > I figure it may be cheaper to spend the money on a airline ticket and
> > a week's stay in a hotel in order to get it done somewhere in a Apache
> > or something on floats for $200 an hour...
>
> Snort!
>
> there's only one apache on floats, fjukkwit.
>
> Maybe you can do it in a Cessna 150 with a Cox engine screwed on the
> outside.
>
> Bertie

I've got an old .049 "Golden Bee" variant to spare. Would that make
it a SuperCub?

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

wrote in news:356e93f1-1b00-41d2-9318-
:

> On Jul 17, 6:48 am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> buttman > wrote in news:65bd0c17-cf80-42d9-bf3f-
>> :
>>
>> > The only place within reasonable driving distance from where I live
>> > that will do a MES commercial charges $500 an hour in a twin sea bee.
>> > I figure it may be cheaper to spend the money on a airline ticket and
>> > a week's stay in a hotel in order to get it done somewhere in a Apache
>> > or something on floats for $200 an hour...
>>
>> Snort!
>>
>> there's only one apache on floats, fjukkwit.
>>
>> Maybe you can do it in a Cessna 150 with a Cox engine screwed on the
>> outside.
>>
>> Bertie
>
> I've got an old .049 "Golden Bee" variant to spare. Would that make
> it a SuperCub?
>

Oh yeah, that was the big tank version with the inverted tank, wasnt it?

Still got scars on my fingers from starting those things.


Bertie

[[email protected]]

On Jul 17, 3:00 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> wrote in news:356e93f1-1b00-41d2-9318-
> :
>
>
>
> > On Jul 17, 6:48 am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> >> buttman > wrote in news:65bd0c17-cf80-42d9-bf3f-
> >> :
>
> >> > The only place within reasonable driving distance from where I live
> >> > that will do a MES commercial charges $500 an hour in a twin sea bee.
> >> > I figure it may be cheaper to spend the money on a airline ticket and
> >> > a week's stay in a hotel in order to get it done somewhere in a Apache
> >> > or something on floats for $200 an hour...
>
> >> Snort!
>
> >> there's only one apache on floats, fjukkwit.
>
> >> Maybe you can do it in a Cessna 150 with a Cox engine screwed on the
> >> outside.
>
> >> Bertie
>
> > I've got an old .049 "Golden Bee" variant to spare. Would that make
> > it a SuperCub?
>
> Oh yeah, that was the big tank version with the inverted tank, wasnt it?
>
> Still got scars on my fingers from starting those things.
>
> Bertie

Yeppers...and yes to the scars...especially with a 'new' nylon prop.
"EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!"

[buttman]

On Jul 17, 11:12*am, "Robert M. Gary" > wrote:
> On Jul 17, 4:33*am, buttman > wrote:
>
> > The only place within reasonable driving distance from where I live
> > that will do a MES commercial charges $500 an hour in a twin sea bee.
> > I figure it may be cheaper to spend the money on a airline ticket and
> > a week's stay in a hotel in order to get it done somewhere in a Apache
> > or something on floats for $200 an hour...
>
> > Also, would it be best to get the SES first (which is a LOT cheaper),
> > then spend like 2 hours transitioning to the MES, or will I still need
> > 8+ hours of MES time in order to pass the checkride? In other words,
> > if you already have your SES and your MEL, is a MES more or less a
> > formality, or will there most likely have to do a lot more training?
> > Remember, my goal here is to get the rating with the least money as
> > possible.
>
> Norcal aviation used to do MES training in an Apache. Terri sold the
> business and I'm not sure if they are still operating or not but you
> might check them. I think their website was norcalaviation.com
>
> -Robert

Funny you mention them. I used to do instruction up there near
Calaveras. I flew there only once, but I do distinctly remember the
apache on floats sitting on the ramp. This, of course was before I
ever decided to pursue an MES rating. I see no mention of the apache
on their webpage, or anywhere else, so maybe they did sell it or
something...

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

wrote in
:

> On Jul 17, 3:00 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> wrote in news:356e93f1-1b00-41d2-9318-
>> :
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jul 17, 6:48 am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> >> buttman > wrote in news:65bd0c17-cf80-42d9-bf3f-
>> >> :
>>
>> >> > The only place within reasonable driving distance from where I
>> >> > live that will do a MES commercial charges $500 an hour in a
>> >> > twin sea bee. I figure it may be cheaper to spend the money on a
>> >> > airline ticket and a week's stay in a hotel in order to get it
>> >> > done somewhere in a Apache or something on floats for $200 an
>> >> > hour...
>>
>> >> Snort!
>>
>> >> there's only one apache on floats, fjukkwit.
>>
>> >> Maybe you can do it in a Cessna 150 with a Cox engine screwed on
>> >> the outside.
>>
>> >> Bertie
>>
>> > I've got an old .049 "Golden Bee" variant to spare. Would that
>> > make it a SuperCub?
>>
>> Oh yeah, that was the big tank version with the inverted tank, wasnt
>> it?
>>
>> Still got scars on my fingers from starting those things.
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Yeppers...and yes to the scars...especially with a 'new' nylon prop.
> "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
E
> EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!"
>

Not to mention god knows how much hearing damage!



Bertie

[Stealth Pilot[_2_]]

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:55:47 -0500, "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net>
wrote:

>
>"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> You think it's a fight?
>>
>> Nah, I do this all the time. It's "what I do"
>>
>> Find a k00k and paly with him until I tire of it.
>>
>> So far I haven't tired of anyone...
>>
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
>Liar.
>
>You're trying to moderate the group by ****ing on every thread or every
>person you happened to disagree with.
>
>Do I need to start posting the names of people on your hate list?
>
>Like me, Honeck, Buttman, Galban, etc.
>
>You are nothing more than a loud mouthed liar with serious control issues,
>and you are hell bent on either controlling this group, or destroying it.
>And everyone that supports your presence here, is just as guilty as you are.
>
>All this troll bull**** is just a bunch of smoke.
>
medications maxie. reach for the medications....

[Kloudy via AviationKB.com]

wrote:

>
>Yeppers...and yes to the scars...especially with a 'new' nylon prop.
>"EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Or typically:
"EEEEEEEEEEEEEEECRACK!!!!eeplapfOW****!!!EEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEE!!"

hey dude, couldja gimme a ride to the ER?

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