LIBERATOR[_3_]
July 23rd 08, 07:03 AM
On Jul 22, 11:51Â*pm, Tiger > wrote:
> Rob Arndt wrote:
> > On Jul 22, 1:11�am, Joe Bruno > wrote:
>
> >>On Jul 22, 1:03�am, LIBERATOR > wrote:
>
> >>>I think had he had one aircraft carrier, he could have won the war.
> >>>Now just imagine 2 or 3, why the heck didn't he produce these?
>
> >>>Why why why didn't this big beaked bohemian corporal have his navy
> >>>create an aircraft carrier? I'm wondering if anyone knows an
> >>>explanation for this...
>
> >>>How could he not figure out that mobilizing a small air force is going
> >>>to give him odds on his foes that they are going to have to devote
> >>>resources to mitigate the threat of this mobile air detach?
>
> >>>I say Hitler missed the boat! ...oh well, he's only human I guess...
>
> >>One aircraft carrier wouldn't have done much good.
> >>He only wanted to occupy mainland Europe, so he didn't need carriers.
> >>The German Navy under Hitler didn't get much funds or attention,
> >>except for the Uboats and they
> >>got massacred in the last stages of the war.
>
> > No Joe, the U-boats wrecked havoc on Britain and had Doenitz 300 of
> > them at any time in the N Atlantic would have won the war by 1940 by
> > starving Britain and preventing a pre-D-Day invasion build-up. At any
> > given time there were only around 100 boats in the water with the
> > Fw-200 and the pirate raiders racking up huge tonnage of sunken
> > ships.
>
> > However, Britain cracked enigma and then the war turned over to the
> > Allies with the destroyer escorts, better a/c with radar, defeat of
> > the Condor, and even Doenitz's decision to divert around 50 boats at
> > any given time to the S Atlantic.
>
> > The KMS Graf Zeppelin was not finished (up to 80%) and so was used as
> > a floating naval warehouse while the KMS Peter Strausser was scrapped.
> > Goering also forbid a rival Kreigsmarine air arm, so that was that.
>
> > The U-boat arm took tremendous losses in the last year of the war but
> > new developments like the U-boat Types XXI, XXIII, and XXVI would have
> > have turned the tide along with technologies like silent drive,
> > stealth coatings, wire-guided torpedos, and the ability to stay
> > submerged as opposed to running on the surface most of the time. But
> > time simply ran out and very few of these boats got to trials while
> > only 4 Type XXVIs were laid down.
>
> > The Prufstand XII V-2 towed missile launchers were also delayed with
> > only one launcher finished at Stettin with the other two only 65%
> > completed. The Kriegsmarine hydrofoils were failures as well as the
> > midget subs and explosive torpedo boats. The German S-boots instead
> > racked up some good kills before the Kriegsmarine resorted to the
> > eastern evacuations with over 2.2 million people moved in 1945 before
> > capitulation.
>
> > Rob
>
> Nice topic but better placed at sci.military.naval &
> rec.aviation.military.naval if you want imput...- Hide quoted text -
>
Jawohl!
> Rob Arndt wrote:
> > On Jul 22, 1:11�am, Joe Bruno > wrote:
>
> >>On Jul 22, 1:03�am, LIBERATOR > wrote:
>
> >>>I think had he had one aircraft carrier, he could have won the war.
> >>>Now just imagine 2 or 3, why the heck didn't he produce these?
>
> >>>Why why why didn't this big beaked bohemian corporal have his navy
> >>>create an aircraft carrier? I'm wondering if anyone knows an
> >>>explanation for this...
>
> >>>How could he not figure out that mobilizing a small air force is going
> >>>to give him odds on his foes that they are going to have to devote
> >>>resources to mitigate the threat of this mobile air detach?
>
> >>>I say Hitler missed the boat! ...oh well, he's only human I guess...
>
> >>One aircraft carrier wouldn't have done much good.
> >>He only wanted to occupy mainland Europe, so he didn't need carriers.
> >>The German Navy under Hitler didn't get much funds or attention,
> >>except for the Uboats and they
> >>got massacred in the last stages of the war.
>
> > No Joe, the U-boats wrecked havoc on Britain and had Doenitz 300 of
> > them at any time in the N Atlantic would have won the war by 1940 by
> > starving Britain and preventing a pre-D-Day invasion build-up. At any
> > given time there were only around 100 boats in the water with the
> > Fw-200 and the pirate raiders racking up huge tonnage of sunken
> > ships.
>
> > However, Britain cracked enigma and then the war turned over to the
> > Allies with the destroyer escorts, better a/c with radar, defeat of
> > the Condor, and even Doenitz's decision to divert around 50 boats at
> > any given time to the S Atlantic.
>
> > The KMS Graf Zeppelin was not finished (up to 80%) and so was used as
> > a floating naval warehouse while the KMS Peter Strausser was scrapped.
> > Goering also forbid a rival Kreigsmarine air arm, so that was that.
>
> > The U-boat arm took tremendous losses in the last year of the war but
> > new developments like the U-boat Types XXI, XXIII, and XXVI would have
> > have turned the tide along with technologies like silent drive,
> > stealth coatings, wire-guided torpedos, and the ability to stay
> > submerged as opposed to running on the surface most of the time. But
> > time simply ran out and very few of these boats got to trials while
> > only 4 Type XXVIs were laid down.
>
> > The Prufstand XII V-2 towed missile launchers were also delayed with
> > only one launcher finished at Stettin with the other two only 65%
> > completed. The Kriegsmarine hydrofoils were failures as well as the
> > midget subs and explosive torpedo boats. The German S-boots instead
> > racked up some good kills before the Kriegsmarine resorted to the
> > eastern evacuations with over 2.2 million people moved in 1945 before
> > capitulation.
>
> > Rob
>
> Nice topic but better placed at sci.military.naval &
> rec.aviation.military.naval if you want imput...- Hide quoted text -
>
Jawohl!