New Garmin combined radio and GPS

[More_Flaps]

Can anyone tell me if the new Garmin radio/gps combo works well in a
cockpit? It looks like a very useful bit of kit for emergency use and
it's a good price but I'd like to know if the built in antenna would
work well in a cockpit.

Cheers

[Marco Leon[_5_]]

"Gig 601Xl Builder" > wrote in message
m...
> More_Flaps wrote:
>> Can anyone tell me if the new Garmin radio/gps combo works well in a
>> cockpit? It looks like a very useful bit of kit for emergency use and
>> it's a good price but I'd like to know if the built in antenna would
>> work well in a cockpit.
>>
>> Cheers
>
> Which Garmin would that be? They make several products.

They used to sell a GPS190 combo transceiver/GPS but I don't believe it sold
that well (although I was able to sell mine quite easily).

Marco

[More_Flaps]

On Aug 12, 9:23*am, Gig 601Xl Builder >
wrote:
> More_Flaps wrote:
> > Can anyone tell me if the new Garmin radio/gps combo works well in a
> > cockpit? It looks like a very useful bit of kit for emergency use and
> > it's a good price but I'd like to know if the built in antenna would
> > work well in a cockpit.
>
> > Cheers
>
> Which Garmin would that be? They make several products.

The Rino series, but my question is more about how well built in GPS
antennas work in the cockpit.

Cheers

[Gig 601Xl Builder]

Marco Leon wrote:
> "Gig 601Xl Builder" > wrote in message
> m...
>> More_Flaps wrote:
>>> Can anyone tell me if the new Garmin radio/gps combo works well in a
>>> cockpit? It looks like a very useful bit of kit for emergency use and
>>> it's a good price but I'd like to know if the built in antenna would
>>> work well in a cockpit.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>> Which Garmin would that be? They make several products.
>
> They used to sell a GPS190 combo transceiver/GPS but I don't believe it sold
> that well (although I was able to sell mine quite easily).
>
> Marco
>
>


Well they make many items that could be considered radio/gps combos,
including the 496, 396, 430, and 530 and I'd have to answer that yes
those work well in airplanes.

[Gig 601Xl Builder]

More_Flaps wrote:
> On Aug 12, 9:23 am, Gig 601Xl Builder >
> wrote:
>> More_Flaps wrote:
>>> Can anyone tell me if the new Garmin radio/gps combo works well in a
>>> cockpit? It looks like a very useful bit of kit for emergency use and
>>> it's a good price but I'd like to know if the built in antenna would
>>> work well in a cockpit.
>>> Cheers
>> Which Garmin would that be? They make several products.
>
> The Rino series, but my question is more about how well built in GPS
> antennas work in the cockpit.
>
> Cheers

Depends on the cockpit. I played with one of the 120 a couple of months
back and the GPS was on par with any of the other non-aviation handheld
Garmin makes.

[Dave[_5_]]

I assume that you mean the GPS receiver side of the unit (rather than
the FRS/GMRS 2-way radio). I'd guess that the performance would leave
something to be desired. But then that is
dependent on the type of airplane. I fly a Cessna high wing, and would
never be witthout an external antenna for my GPS. No doubt the built-
in antenna would work fine under a bubble
canopy. While on the subject, I'd also comment that trying to make a
non-aviation GPS serve any useful purpose in the cockpit is difficult.
Certainly it is possible to do so - but it's a lot
of work.

Dave

[Marco Leon[_5_]]

"Gig 601Xl Builder" > wrote in message
m...

> Well they make many items that could be considered radio/gps combos,
> including the 496, 396, 430, and 530 and I'd have to answer that yes those
> work well in airplanes.

Yeah, I kind of made a couple of assumptions there: 1) that he was referring
to a portable unit and 2) that "radio" meant "transceiver." Who knows, maybe
he saw a 430/530 WAAS ad for the first time.

Marco

[Gig 601Xl Builder]

Marco Leon wrote:
> "Gig 601Xl Builder" > wrote in message
> m...
>
>> Well they make many items that could be considered radio/gps combos,
>> including the 496, 396, 430, and 530 and I'd have to answer that yes those
>> work well in airplanes.
>
> Yeah, I kind of made a couple of assumptions there: 1) that he was referring
> to a portable unit and 2) that "radio" meant "transceiver." Who knows, maybe
> he saw a 430/530 WAAS ad for the first time.
>
> Marco
>
>

Marco, considering who the OP was it wouldn't surprise me in the least
if he had never seen an ad for a 430.

[More_Flaps]

On Aug 13, 8:03*am, Gig 601Xl Builder >
wrote:
> Marco Leon wrote:
> > "Gig 601Xl Builder" > wrote in message
> m...
>
> >> Well they make many items that could be considered radio/gps combos,
> >> including the 496, 396, 430, and 530 and I'd have to answer that yes those
> >> work well in airplanes.
>
> > Yeah, I kind of made a couple of assumptions there: 1) that he was referring
> > to a portable unit and 2) that "radio" meant "transceiver." Who knows, maybe
> > he saw a 430/530 WAAS ad for the first time.
>
> > Marco
>
> Marco, considering who the OP was it wouldn't surprise me in the least
> if he had never seen an ad for a 430.

The problem reallly resides in your limited imagination.

Cheers

[More_Flaps]

On Aug 13, 4:52*am, "Marco Leon" > wrote:
> "Gig 601Xl Builder" > wrote in messagenews:1JKdnSPZZZ2TLz3VnZ2dnUVZ_t_inZ2d@super news.com...
>
> > Well they make many items that could be considered radio/gps combos,
> > including the 496, 396, 430, and 530 and I'd have to answer that yes those
> > work well in airplanes.
>
> Yeah, I kind of made a couple of assumptions there: 1) that he was referring
> to a portable unit

Correct

and 2) that "radio" meant "transceiver."

correct.

Who knows, maybe
> he saw a 430/530 WAAS ad for the first time.

Nope, they on't have built in antennas do they?

Cheers

[More_Flaps]

On Aug 12, 10:48*am, Dave > wrote:
> I assume that you mean the GPS receiver side of the unit (rather than
> the FRS/GMRS 2-way radio). I'd guess that the performance would leave
> something to be desired. But then that is
> dependent on the type of airplane. I fly a Cessna high wing, and would
> never be witthout an external antenna for my GPS. No doubt the built-
> in antenna would work fine under a bubble
> canopy. While on the subject, I'd also comment that trying to make a
> non-aviation GPS serve any useful purpose in the cockpit is difficult.
> Certainly it is possible to do so - but it's a lot
> of work.
>
OK, tanks. The combo has no external antenna socket so I'll assume it
will not work well in the cockpit... Pity really as it is a good
price.

Cheers

[Mike[_22_]]

"Dave" > wrote in message
...
>I assume that you mean the GPS receiver side of the unit (rather than
> the FRS/GMRS 2-way radio). I'd guess that the performance would leave
> something to be desired. But then that is
> dependent on the type of airplane. I fly a Cessna high wing, and would
> never be witthout an external antenna for my GPS. No doubt the built-
> in antenna would work fine under a bubble
> canopy. While on the subject, I'd also comment that trying to make a
> non-aviation GPS serve any useful purpose in the cockpit is difficult.
> Certainly it is possible to do so - but it's a lot
> of work.

Some models work better than others. I had a yoke mounted Lowrance (in a
high wing) that would simply not work at all without using the external
antenna, however the 496 mounted in the same spot works reasonably well.
The problem you run into is if you make a turn, the signal may be lost
because the tracked satellites are now being blocked by the airplane, but
the 496 seems to recover pretty quickly.

Mounting location is also important. I know folks who have their Garmins
mounted above the radio stack and others who use the suction cup mount on
the front window where it wraps around the side, all on high wings and have
no problems using the attached antenna. I suspect the Garmins may acquire
new satellites a bit quicker than most.

[Gig 601Xl Builder]

More_Flaps wrote:
> On Aug 13, 4:52 am, "Marco Leon" > wrote:
>> "Gig 601Xl Builder" > wrote in messagenews:1JKdnSPZZZ2TLz3VnZ2dnUVZ_t_inZ2d@super news.com...
>>
>>> Well they make many items that could be considered radio/gps combos,
>>> including the 496, 396, 430, and 530 and I'd have to answer that yes those
>>> work well in airplanes.
>> Yeah, I kind of made a couple of assumptions there: 1) that he was referring
>> to a portable unit
>
> Correct
>
> and 2) that "radio" meant "transceiver."
>
> correct.
>
> Who knows, maybe
>> he saw a 430/530 WAAS ad for the first time.
>
> Nope, they on't have built in antennas do they?
>
> Cheers


But Flaps, In the original message you didn't specify built in antennas.