Craggy Aero Introduces the Ultimate Flight System

[Richard[_1_]]

Craggy Aero introduces the Ultimate Flight System. First production
run in October 2008. The Ultimate offers a larger screen with twice
the resolution and a faster processor than competing products. The
Ultimate is running WinPilot Software.

Please see http://www.craggyaero.com/ultimate.htm for details.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[Andy[_1_]]

On Aug 13, 11:22*am, Richard > wrote:
> Craggy Aero introduces the Ultimate Flight System. *

Can other PDA based apps, such as Glide Nav and CU mobile, be run on
this hardware.

Andy

[Eric Greenwell]

Richard wrote:
>
> Craggy Aero introduces the Ultimate Flight System. First production
> run in October 2008. The Ultimate offers a larger screen with twice
> the resolution and a faster processor than competing products. The
> Ultimate is running WinPilot Software.
>
> Please see http://www.craggyaero.com/ultimate.htm for details.

It looks really nice, but my panel is crowded and I'm using SeeYou
Mobile. Might there be a 5" version available by next season that will
work with Mobile?

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[Richard[_1_]]

On Aug 13, 1:35*pm, Andy > wrote:
> On Aug 13, 11:22*am, Richard > wrote:
>
> > Craggy Aero introduces the Ultimate Flight System. *
>
> Can other PDA based apps, such as Glide Nav and CU mobile, be run on
> this hardware.
>
> Andy

Andy,

SeeYou is working of a version. It will be specific to the Ulitmate
and will require a purchase of a new SeeYou Mobile License.


Thanks,
Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[Richard[_1_]]

On Aug 13, 1:37*pm, Eric Greenwell > wrote:
> Richard wrote:
>
> > Craggy Aero introduces the Ultimate Flight System. *First production
> > run in October 2008. *The Ultimate offers a larger screen with twice
> > the resolution and a faster processor than competing products. *The
> > Ultimate is running WinPilot Software.
>
> > Please seehttp://www.craggyaero.com/ultimate.htm*for details.
>
> It looks really nice, but my panel is crowded and I'm using SeeYou
> Mobile. Might there be a 5" version available by next season that will
> work with Mobile?
>
> --
> Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
> * Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
>
> * Updated! "Transponders in Sailplanes"http://tinyurl.com/y739x4
> * * * New Jan '08 - sections on Mode S, TPAS, ADS-B, Flarm, more
>
> * "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" atwww.motorglider.org

Eric,

SeeYou is working on a version. I don't expect a 5" display anytime
soon as the resolution of the 5" displays is not acceptable to me.

Thanks ,

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[Dan[_4_]]

> > Richard wrote:
>
> > > Craggy Aero introduces the Ultimate Flight System. *First production
> > > run in October 2008. *The Ultimate offers a larger screen with twice
> > > the resolution and a faster processor than competing products. *The
> > > Ultimate is running WinPilot Software.
>
> > > Please seehttp://www.craggyaero.com/ultimate.htm*for details.

Hi Richard, what is the power used (mA)?

Dan

[Tony Verhulst]

Richard wrote:
>
> Craggy Aero introduces the Ultimate Flight System.


I assume that I'm not the only one who is concerned that devices like
this (Clearnav / UFS) will increase the tendency for pilots to keep
their head inside the cockpit.

Tony V.

[Bill Daniels]

"Tony Verhulst" > wrote in message
. ..
> Richard wrote:
>>
>> Craggy Aero introduces the Ultimate Flight System.
>
>
> I assume that I'm not the only one who is concerned that devices like this
> (Clearnav / UFS) will increase the tendency for pilots to keep their head
> inside the cockpit.
>
> Tony V.

You mean like unfolding and reading a paper map?

[Kloudy via AviationKB.com]

Tony Verhulst wrote:
>> Craggy Aero introduces the Ultimate Flight System.
>
>I assume that I'm not the only one who is concerned that devices like
>this (Clearnav / UFS) will increase the tendency for pilots to keep
>their head inside the cockpit.
>
>Tony V.

Not any more than with the current generation of visualizations IMO.
I typically only glance occasionally at the PDA.

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[Udo Rumpf[_2_]]

In fact, the ****ty unreadable screens are the problem.
If you have a good display it is no different then scanning an other
instrument. Besides any work in preparation for a flight should be done on
the ground. Hence a good display is just an other Instrument.
Udo

At 23:52 13 August 2008, Tony Verhulst wrote:
>Richard wrote:
>>
>> Craggy Aero introduces the Ultimate Flight System.
>
>
>I assume that I'm not the only one who is concerned that devices like
>this (Clearnav / UFS) will increase the tendency for pilots to keep
>their head inside the cockpit.
>
>Tony V.
>

[Tony Verhulst]

Bill Daniels wrote:
> "Tony Verhulst" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> Richard wrote:
>>> Craggy Aero introduces the Ultimate Flight System.
>>
>> I assume that I'm not the only one who is concerned that devices like this
>> (Clearnav / UFS) will increase the tendency for pilots to keep their head
>> inside the cockpit.
>>
>> Tony V.
>
> You mean like unfolding and reading a paper map?


No, I mean by having a huge color moving map, and more, in front of your
face all of the time.

Tony

[Darryl Ramm]

On Aug 13, 5:40*pm, Udo Rumpf > wrote:
> In fact, the ****ty unreadable screens *are the problem.
> If you have a good display it is no different then scanning an other
> instrument. Besides any work in preparation for a flight should be done on
> the ground. Hence a good display is just an other Instrument.
> Udo
>
> At 23:52 13 August 2008, Tony Verhulst wrote:
>
> >Richard wrote:
>
> >> Craggy Aero introduces the Ultimate Flight System. *
>
> >I assume that I'm not the only one who is concerned that devices like
> >this (Clearnav / UFS) will increase the tendency for pilots to keep
> >their head inside the cockpit.
>
> >Tony V.
>
>

Exactly. And a moving map display and computer is less work than
futzing with a paper chart, etc. The longest time my head is inside
the cockpit is when messing with a hard to read PDA. I don't see how
WinPilot or SeeYou on this can be any worse than dealing with the same
software on a PDA, and I expect it to be quite better becauae of the
dramatically improved visibility.

Darryl

[Eric Greenwell]

Tony Verhulst wrote:
> Bill Daniels wrote:
>> "Tony Verhulst" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>>> Richard wrote:
>>>> Craggy Aero introduces the Ultimate Flight System.
>>>
>>> I assume that I'm not the only one who is concerned that devices like
>>> this (Clearnav / UFS) will increase the tendency for pilots to keep
>>> their head inside the cockpit.
>>>
>>> Tony V.
>>
>> You mean like unfolding and reading a paper map?
>
>
> No, I mean by having a huge color moving map, and more, in front of your
> face all of the time.

For me, having a huge color moving map on the panel would let me
interpret it more quickly than the small color moving map on a stalk
that I use now, so I'd spend less time looking at it. Using a PDA takes
me less time than using something like an LNAV or MNAV, and way less
time than using paper maps.

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* Updated! "Transponders in Sailplanes" http://tinyurl.com/y739x4
* New Jan '08 - sections on Mode S, TPAS, ADS-B, Flarm, more

* "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" at www.motorglider.org

[JPMarks]

On Aug 13, 9:56*pm, Eric Greenwell > wrote:
> Tony Verhulst wrote:
> > Bill Daniels wrote:
> >> "Tony Verhulst" > wrote in message
> . ..
> >>> Richard wrote:
> >>>> Craggy Aero introduces the Ultimate Flight System.
>
> >>> I assume that I'm not the only one who is concerned that devices like
> >>> this (Clearnav / UFS) will increase the tendency for pilots to keep
> >>> their head inside the cockpit.
>
> >>> Tony V.
>
> >> You mean like unfolding and reading a paper map?
>
> > No, I mean by having a huge color moving map, and more, in front of your
> > face all of the time.
>
> For me, having a huge color moving map on the panel would let me
> interpret it more quickly than the small color moving map on a stalk
> that I use now, so I'd spend less time looking at it. Using a PDA takes
> me less time than using something like an LNAV or MNAV, and way less
> time than using paper maps.
>
> --
> Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
> * Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
>
> * Updated! "Transponders in Sailplanes"http://tinyurl.com/y739x4
> * * * New Jan '08 - sections on Mode S, TPAS, ADS-B, Flarm, more
>
> * "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" atwww.motorglider.org

I have a ClearNav installed in my LS4. I can quickly glance at the
screen and get the information I need. No more squinting. The pilot
is the problem, not the hardware.

Jim

[Richard[_1_]]

On Aug 13, 6:50*pm, Darryl Ramm > wrote:
> On Aug 13, 5:40*pm, Udo Rumpf > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In fact, the ****ty unreadable screens *are the problem.
> > If you have a good display it is no different then scanning an other
> > instrument. Besides any work in preparation for a flight should be done on
> > the ground. Hence a good display is just an other Instrument.
> > Udo
>
> > At 23:52 13 August 2008, Tony Verhulst wrote:
>
> > >Richard wrote:
>
> > >> Craggy Aero introduces the Ultimate Flight System. *
>
> > >I assume that I'm not the only one who is concerned that devices like
> > >this (Clearnav / UFS) will increase the tendency for pilots to keep
> > >their head inside the cockpit.
>
> > >Tony V.
>
> Exactly. And a moving map display and computer is less work than
> futzing with a paper chart, etc. The longest time my head is inside
> the cockpit is when messing with a hard to read PDA. I don't see how
> WinPilot or SeeYou on this can be any worse than dealing with the same
> software on a PDA, and I expect it to be quite better becauae of the
> dramatically improved visibility.
>
> Darryl- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Darryl,

Actually it is much better than a PDA as you can see the screen and it
has the same focal length as the panel.

When you have a PDA you have three focal length to look at panel,
PDA , and Outside.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[Richard[_1_]]

On Aug 13, 4:06*pm, Dan > wrote:
> > > Richard wrote:
>
> > > > Craggy Aero introduces the Ultimate Flight System. *First production
> > > > run in October 2008. *The Ultimate offers a larger screen with twice
> > > > the resolution and a faster processor than competing products. *The
> > > > Ultimate is running WinPilot Software.
>
> > > > Please seehttp://www.craggyaero.com/ultimate.htm*for details.
>
> Hi Richard, what is the power used (mA)?
>
> Dan

Dan,

I have measured 1300mA running with a CAI 302 and the backlight
setting at full. The Ultimate comes with an adjustable backlight
pot and can be adjusted down so the system runs at 800mA or less
depending on the brightness you want.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[Tony Verhulst]

> I have a ClearNav installed in my LS4. I can quickly glance at the
> screen and get the information I need. No more squinting. The pilot
> is the problem, not the hardware.


I suspect that you are right. I was just wondering.

Tony

[bumper]

"Tony Verhulst" > wrote in message
. ..
> Richard wrote:
>>
>> Craggy Aero introduces the Ultimate Flight System.
>
>
> I assume that I'm not the only one who is concerned that devices like this
> (Clearnav / UFS) will increase the tendency for pilots to keep their head
> inside the cockpit.
>
> Tony V.


No, you'd be the only one. Everyone else thinks it's pretty cool. (g)

bumper
zz
Minden USA

[TXBill]

"Tony Verhulst" wrote:

> No, I mean by having a huge color moving map, and more, in front of your
> face all of the time.

Well, speaking for myself, I suspect that I'd spend about as much time
looking at the display as I spend looking at my IPAQ (less, since it's
easier to read); and I'd glance down at it about as often as I glance at the
GPS screen in my car. When compared to old-school pencil and paper, I
believe that tools like this make cross-country soaring more convenient,
safer, and dare I say, even more fun.

But that's just me.

-Bill



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