J3 - ENOUGH!!!

[Alan Erskine[_3_]]

4 ****ING DAYS!

[Alan Erskine[_3_]]

"Jim Townsend" > wrote in message
m...
> Alan Erskine wrote:
>
>> 4 ****ING DAYS!
>
> Just put him in your blocked sender's list. Then you'll never
> see any of his posts displayed.

The problem is, he posts some good stuff - it's just a bit much at one time,
that's all.

[Alan Erskine[_3_]]

"Sj" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:45:15 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
> > wrote:
>
>>4 ****ING DAYS!
>
>
> It is rather a lot, isn't it :)
>
> Of what, I don't know, as I didn't d/l any ...

They're all (probably) images, but like you, I haven't down-loaded any.
Main reasons for not down-loading any are:

Too many split over several days - I rarely get to see "1/2 and 2/2" in any
'normal' group format (jpeg, jpg, bmp etc) let alone some of this stuff.

[Peter Hucker[_2_]]

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:03:59 -0500, Jim Townsend > wrote:

>Alan Erskine wrote:
>
>> 4 ****ING DAYS!
>
>Just put him in your blocked sender's list. Then you'll never
>see any of his posts displayed.
>
>I see you use Outlook Express. All you have to do is:

There's the problem, right there.

>1. Highlight a message from the person you want to block
>2. Click on 'Message' on the top window bar
>3. In the dropdown menu that appears, click on "Block Sender"
>3. You'll see a confirmation message... Click "Yes"
>
>
--
http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com

It said, "Insert disk #3," but only two will fit!

[Gary R. Schmidt]

Alan Erskine wrote:
> 4 ****ING DAYS!
>
>
And 9.2Gb, as of now!!!

Repeats, multi-posts, and all the complaints.

Cheers,
Gary B-)

--
__________________________________________________ ____________________________
Armful of chairs: Something some people would not know
whether you were up them with or not
- Barry Humphries

[SKUNK WORKS]

THIS GUY IS A ****ING IDIOT


"Gary R. Schmidt" > wrote in message
...
> Alan Erskine wrote:
>> 4 ****ING DAYS!
> And 9.2Gb, as of now!!!
>
> Repeats, multi-posts, and all the complaints.
>
> Cheers,
> Gary B-)
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ ____________________________
> Armful of chairs: Something some people would not know
> whether you were up them with or not
> - Barry Humphries

[Nigel Pretty]

J3 Blocked




"Gary R. Schmidt" > wrote in message
...
> Alan Erskine wrote:
>> 4 ****ING DAYS!
> And 9.2Gb, as of now!!!
>
> Repeats, multi-posts, and all the complaints.
>
> Cheers,
> Gary B-)
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ ____________________________
> Armful of chairs: Something some people would not know
> whether you were up them with or not
> - Barry Humphries

[John Meyer]

In article >,
"SKUNK WORKS" > wrote:

> THIS GUY IS A ****ING IDIOT
>

LOL - a case of the pot calling the kettle black!

[Jim Morris[_5_]]

> J3 Blocked




You dumbass. He posts some of the best pics available from all the military
sites and NASA.

--
Jim Morris
"

[hielan' laddie]

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:45:15 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
(in article >):

> 4 ****ING DAYS!
>
>

I see you use MSOE. If you used a real newsreader you would not have a
problem.

J3, ignore the whingers.

[Alan Erskine[_3_]]

"hielan' laddie" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:45:15 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
> (in article >):
>
>> 4 ****ING DAYS!
>>
>>
>
> I see you use MSOE. If you used a real newsreader you would not have a
> problem.
>
> J3, ignore the whingers.
>

Define "real" (don't provide examples of what you consider 'real'
newsreaders, just the definition please).

[hielan' laddie]

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:41:41 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
(in article >):

> "hielan' laddie" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:45:15 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
>> (in article >):
>>
>>> 4 ****ING DAYS!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I see you use MSOE. If you used a real newsreader you would not have a
>> problem.
>>
>> J3, ignore the whingers.
>>
>
> Define "real" (don't provide examples of what you consider 'real'
> newsreaders, just the definition please).
>
>

A real newsreader has:

1 proper filtering. This means the ability to filter on _any_ header. It also
means the ability to place the results of the filtering the way the user
wants. Examples: some newsreaders have the ability to tag posts with colour,
so that posts of interest (or of non-interest) can be detected at a glance.
Some newsreaders can tag posts with ratings of interest, which also can be
detected at a glance. Some can do both. Filtering also means the ability to
sort out purely text from binary posts, and the ability to save a post as
text or binary to a folder of the user's choice on a volume of the user's
choice. The filter should also be capable of ferreting out _all_ the files
the user wants, using such techniques as 'regular expressions'. With proper
filtering, a user can find all posts in a newsgroup made by Alan Erskine, tag
them red or give them a +10 rating or both, save any purely text files to
disk, extract any binaries, and then delete the binary posts while leaving
the text-only posts alone.

Note that proper filtering makes proper killfiltering trivial. I don't
killfile based on a poster's posting ID; that is far too easily changed, and
a troll will change it on a semi-regular basis just because he is a troll. I
killfilter based on headers which are difficult for the troll to change,
mostly because they're beyond his control. I would not use a newsreader which
does not have proper filters because, well, there are far too many trolls out
there and life's too short to put up with them.

Proper filtering should also include the option of automatically notifying
the user if certain parameters are met. The user should be able to set the
parameters.

2 proper file support. A real newsreader knows what plain text posts are,
what binaries are, and can use the primary USENET binary encoding schemes,
including but not limited to UUencode, UUencode/MIME, Base64, Apple Double,
and YENC. The ability to read HTML-formatted text is optional, and where
possible should be part of the filter suite. (I, personally, killfilter
HTML-formatted text on USENET. USENET text is ASCII. Hell, USENET text is to
be viewed in a monospace font only. HTML need not apply. YMMV.)

Part of the proper file support should be the ability to detect and view
common file types, including .gif, .jpg, .wmv, .avi, .mp3, so that the user
can preview a binary _before_ saving it to disk. A proper newsreader should
at least know what .csv, .rar, .par, and .pdf are, though viewing them in the
newsreader will be problematic. I, personally, often manually download a few
files and preview them before deciding to set up a filter to grab them all.
If certain posters get a good track record, I'll set up a filter to grab all
files posted by them and save them to disk without bothering to preview. A
proper newsreader will notify me that it has detected new posts meeting my
filters and is downloading/killing/tagging them for me.

Another part of proper file support is content-type support. Not everyone
uses US ASCII. Hell, not everyone uses Latin text. A real newsreader will
support binaries which are named using non-English and even
non-Latin-alphabet systems. This can result in a few files with strange names
such as
'=?ISO-8859-1?Q?A=E9rospatiale_ATR-42_F-GPYD_Air_France_by_Air?==?ISO-8859-
1?Q?linair_05=2Ejpg?=", which really means
'Aerospatiale_ATR-42_F-GPYD_Air_France_by_Airelinair_05.jpg' with a few
accents which don't reproduce well with US ASCII.

3 proper automation support. A real newsreader will automatically do routine
tasks for the user. It will do things such as open up the newsgroup and check
headers to see if there's anything new at all, and if any of the new posts
match any filters, and then perform the filtering... and all without
bothering the user, unless the filter specifies notifying the user. I can
turn on filtering in Hogwasher or Agent and then not even look at either for
days and _know_ that any files meeting my requirements will be dealt with for
me and that if there's a problem the app will notify me. Believe it or not,
there is life outside of USENET, and taking a little time to set things up to
run automatically saves a lot of time in the long run.

4 good customer support. It's nice to get questions answered and bugs fixed
on a semi-regular basis.

In short, a real newsreader allows the user to quickly and easily go through
the posts on a newsgroup, select the ones he wants to download or otherwise
view, mark them and download them or whatever, and to get rid of anything he
_doesn't_ want to have on the group. The user can access any file, in any
format, at will. The user can restrict or not restrict the types of files,
the posters, and anything else which is visible to him on the newsgroup at
will. (Note: the user is not restricting the _newsgroup_. He's restricting
the part of the newsgroup _that he sees_. If he finds, say, 'hangar queen'
pix objectionable, then a simple filter removes them... for him. If he wants
to prevent others from posting/downloading such pix, then he's got a problem.
Well, several problems.) Any newsreader which does not allow such freedom is
not a real newsreader. MSOE does not meet any of the above criteria. It is
not a real newsreader. YMMV, but I certainly found it lacking and moved to a
real newsreader within days of first going on USENET. (I wasn't particularly
impressed with it as an email client, either, and dumped it entirely shortly
thereafter.)

[Alan Erskine[_3_]]

"hielan' laddie" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:41:41 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
> (in article >):
>>
>> Define "real" (don't provide examples of what you consider 'real'
>> newsreaders, just the definition please).
>>
>>
>
> A real newsreader has:
>
> 1 proper filtering. This means the ability to filter on _any_ header. It
> also
> means the ability to place the results of the filtering the way the user
> wants. Examples: some newsreaders have the ability to tag posts with
> colour,
> so that posts of interest (or of non-interest) can be detected at a
> glance.
> Some newsreaders can tag posts with ratings of interest, which also can be
> detected at a glance. Some can do both. Filtering also means the ability
> to
> sort out purely text from binary posts, and the ability to save a post as
> text or binary to a folder of the user's choice on a volume of the user's
> choice. The filter should also be capable of ferreting out _all_ the files
> the user wants, using such techniques as 'regular expressions'. With
> proper
> filtering, a user can find all posts in a newsgroup made by Alan Erskine,
> tag
> them red or give them a +10 rating or both, save any purely text files to
> disk, extract any binaries, and then delete the binary posts while leaving
> the text-only posts alone.

I can do that quite easily - it's just a matter of going to Tools, Message
Rules, News and then "New". Easy.

As for the rest, which newsreader can play videos (wmv, .avi, .mp3,)?
Surely, you still need to have the relevant player installed on the
computer.

OE supports text other than Latin. It's just a matter of installing the
preferred language (the computer will usually say which language it is).

Proper automation - why have newsgroups if it can be done automatically? I
spend very little time on newsgroups - few are worth it (which is why I'm so
adament about what J3 did; as this group is very much worth fighting for).

OE can go through the posts in a newsgroup - it's called "scrolling" - quite
easy to do.

OE can access any file, at will - as long as I have the software to view
that particular format (one of the main problems with any software is
compatibility with other formats).

OE can restrict file formats quite easily - same as for filtering via the
subject line.

OE does everything that you say is necessary (with the exception of some
formats like yEnc, which can be overcome with additional software - yEnc
isn't all that common, with the exception of some porno groups who don't
want people knowing what they are actually posting - most of those people
end up in prison)

As for email; I haven't had any problems with OE - it's doing just fine.

[hielan' laddie]

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:40:39 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
(in article >):

> "hielan' laddie" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:41:41 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
>> (in article >):
>>>
>>> Define "real" (don't provide examples of what you consider 'real'
>>> newsreaders, just the definition please).
>>>
>>>
>>
>> A real newsreader has:
>>
>> 1 proper filtering. This means the ability to filter on _any_ header. It
>> also
>> means the ability to place the results of the filtering the way the user
>> wants. Examples: some newsreaders have the ability to tag posts with
>> colour,
>> so that posts of interest (or of non-interest) can be detected at a
>> glance.
>> Some newsreaders can tag posts with ratings of interest, which also can be
>> detected at a glance. Some can do both. Filtering also means the ability
>> to
>> sort out purely text from binary posts, and the ability to save a post as
>> text or binary to a folder of the user's choice on a volume of the user's
>> choice. The filter should also be capable of ferreting out _all_ the files
>> the user wants, using such techniques as 'regular expressions'. With
>> proper
>> filtering, a user can find all posts in a newsgroup made by Alan Erskine,
>> tag
>> them red or give them a +10 rating or both, save any purely text files to
>> disk, extract any binaries, and then delete the binary posts while leaving
>> the text-only posts alone.
>
> I can do that quite easily - it's just a matter of going to Tools, Message
> Rules, News and then "New". Easy.
>
> As for the rest, which newsreader can play videos (wmv, .avi, .mp3,)?

Hogwasher, Agent, MTNW all can.

> Surely, you still need to have the relevant player installed on the
> computer.

Nope. You might need the codecs installed somewhere, but not any player.

>
> OE supports text other than Latin. It's just a matter of installing the
> preferred language (the computer will usually say which language it is).

I don't need to do that, it's all done automatically by the system.

>
> Proper automation - why have newsgroups if it can be done automatically?

To keep things properly arraigned.

> I
> spend very little time on newsgroups - few are worth it (which is why I'm so
> adament about what J3 did; as this group is very much worth fighting for).

He didn't do a damn thing other than post a few .rars. Precisely because you
have an inadequate newsreader, you saw _each separate part_ as a different
post. Precisely because _I_ have a real newsreader, _I_ saw the posts as one.
Instead of 35 parts of a .rar, I saw a .rar. Those who had real newsreaders
simply did not see the 'clutter' that those who have crippled newsreaders
saw. The problem is not J3. The problem is your crippled newsreader.

>
> OE can go through the posts in a newsgroup - it's called "scrolling" - quite
> easy to do.

With a proper setup you need not do that unless you're looking for something
specific.

>
> OE can access any file, at will - as long as I have the software to view
> that particular format (one of the main problems with any software is
> compatibility with other formats).

A proper newsreader will access the files using internal resources, except
for codecs. And the codecs apply mostly to multimedia files, so pix and audio
files Just Work. No external help required.

>
> OE can restrict file formats quite easily - same as for filtering via the
> subject line.

Cool. So if you don't like J3's stuff, filter out .rar and they will all go.
Or filter on his posting ID. Problem done.

oh, wait, the problem is that you don't want him to post that stuff on
a.b.p.a. Hmm. Sucks to be you, 'cause you can't control that. You can control
what _you_ see. Pity about any delusions of control for anything else.

One reason why _I_ use a real newsreader is _precisely_ so that I have
_complete_ control over what _I_ see in the newsgroup. If I don't want to see
something, that something is _gone_. Unlike some, I _don't care if anyone
else sees it_. I only care that _I_ don't.

>
> OE does everything that you say is necessary (with the exception of some
> formats like yEnc, which can be overcome with additional software - yEnc
> isn't all that common, with the exception of some porno groups who don't
> want people knowing what they are actually posting - most of those people
> end up in prison)

Errm... YENC doesn't block people from seeing what they're posting, and puts
a nice big flag with the file name in the subjectline...

>
> As for email; I haven't had any problems with OE - it's doing just fine.
>
>

You obviously don't get the volume of mail I get. MSOE died from overwork,
and lacks the controls, especially filtering, to get my mail organised the
way I want it. Eudora, on the other hand...

[hielan' laddie]

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:40:39 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
(in article >):

> "hielan' laddie" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:41:41 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
>> (in article >):
>>>
>>> Define "real" (don't provide examples of what you consider 'real'
>>> newsreaders, just the definition please).
>>>
>>>
>>
>> A real newsreader has:
>>
>> 1 proper filtering. This means the ability to filter on _any_ header. It
>> also
>> means the ability to place the results of the filtering the way the user
>> wants. Examples: some newsreaders have the ability to tag posts with
>> colour,
>> so that posts of interest (or of non-interest) can be detected at a
>> glance.
>> Some newsreaders can tag posts with ratings of interest, which also can be
>> detected at a glance. Some can do both. Filtering also means the ability
>> to
>> sort out purely text from binary posts, and the ability to save a post as
>> text or binary to a folder of the user's choice on a volume of the user's
>> choice. The filter should also be capable of ferreting out _all_ the files
>> the user wants, using such techniques as 'regular expressions'. With
>> proper
>> filtering, a user can find all posts in a newsgroup made by Alan Erskine,
>> tag
>> them red or give them a +10 rating or both, save any purely text files to
>> disk, extract any binaries, and then delete the binary posts while leaving
>> the text-only posts alone.
>
> I can do that quite easily - it's just a matter of going to Tools, Message
> Rules, News and then "New". Easy.
>
> As for the rest, which newsreader can play videos (wmv, .avi, .mp3,)?
> Surely, you still need to have the relevant player installed on the
> computer.
>
> OE supports text other than Latin. It's just a matter of installing the
> preferred language (the computer will usually say which language it is).
>
> Proper automation - why have newsgroups if it can be done automatically? I
> spend very little time on newsgroups - few are worth it (which is why I'm so
> adament about what J3 did; as this group is very much worth fighting for).
>
> OE can go through the posts in a newsgroup - it's called "scrolling" - quite
> easy to do.
>
> OE can access any file, at will - as long as I have the software to view
> that particular format (one of the main problems with any software is
> compatibility with other formats).
>
> OE can restrict file formats quite easily - same as for filtering via the
> subject line.
>
> OE does everything that you say is necessary (with the exception of some
> formats like yEnc, which can be overcome with additional software - yEnc
> isn't all that common, with the exception of some porno groups who don't
> want people knowing what they are actually posting - most of those people
> end up in prison)

Example of a YENC post... one of the pix from J3's excellent post, in fact.

>
> As for email; I haven't had any problems with OE - it's doing just fine.
>
>

[hielan' laddie]

[hielan' laddie]

[hielan' laddie]

[Alan Erskine[_3_]]

"hielan' laddie" > wrote in message
...
> He didn't do a damn thing other than post a few .rars. Precisely because
> you
> have an inadequate newsreader, you saw _each separate part_ as a different
> post. Precisely because _I_ have a real newsreader, _I_ saw the posts as
> one.
> Instead of 35 parts of a .rar, I saw a .rar. Those who had real
> newsreaders
> simply did not see the 'clutter' that those who have crippled newsreaders
> saw. The problem is not J3. The problem is your crippled newsreader.

No, the problem was J3; he intentionally disrupted the majority of the users
of this forum, with images that aren't even his, and posting them in a
format that isn't known by most of the users of this forum. He could have
respected the majority of the users of this forum by simply posting links
for such a large group of images, or setting up his own website. Or, he
could have simply done as I suggested - post a few at a time (I suggested
between 4 and 40).

Oh and the vast majority of users of this forum use the same "crippled
newsreader" that I use. It's not just me, or a small number of people who
were inconvenienced by J3, it was the overwhelming majority.

As for my question about video players; you still have to have the codecs.
If someone uploads a vid to a newsgroup, I can still click on it and play
it, as long as I have the right player (RealPlayer plays all but QT as far
as I have found).

And I didn't say I didn't like J3's stuff; it was the quantity that bugs me,
not the format. Most people come here expecting to see pictures (that's the
name of the group, afterall - quite specific about it, really); .rar's
aren't pictures, they are a method of posting a large store of individual
images in one folder-like package. Mitchell does quite will just with
..jpg/jpeg format and so have all previous posters. Considering the number
of parts, he could have just as easily posted individual images, just like
Mitchell does; there are methods of multiple posts, but I've never had a
need to use them.

I don't have any delusions of any kind. The group name includes "pictures"
in its title; there is a multi-media group as well, if someone wishes to
post video or audio.

As I said before, I can control exactly what I see (you support that view
also), so why do you mention this again ("One reason why _I_ use a real
newsreader is _precisely_ so that I have _complete_ control over what _I_
see in the newsgroup. If I don't want to see something, that something is
_gone_. Unlike some, I _don't care if anyone else sees it_. I only care that
_I_ don't.")?

As for yEnc, it's used by porno posters for the very reason that it's not
very popular - most people, again the vast majority, won't be able to decode
it.

[Peter Hucker[_2_]]

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:40:39 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
> wrote:

>"hielan' laddie" > wrote in message
...
>> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:41:41 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
>> (in article >):
>>>
>>> Define "real" (don't provide examples of what you consider 'real'
>>> newsreaders, just the definition please).
>>>
>>>
>>
>> A real newsreader has:
>>
>> 1 proper filtering. This means the ability to filter on _any_ header. It
>> also
>> means the ability to place the results of the filtering the way the user
>> wants. Examples: some newsreaders have the ability to tag posts with
>> colour,
>> so that posts of interest (or of non-interest) can be detected at a
>> glance.
>> Some newsreaders can tag posts with ratings of interest, which also can be
>> detected at a glance. Some can do both. Filtering also means the ability
>> to
>> sort out purely text from binary posts, and the ability to save a post as
>> text or binary to a folder of the user's choice on a volume of the user's
>> choice. The filter should also be capable of ferreting out _all_ the files
>> the user wants, using such techniques as 'regular expressions'. With
>> proper
>> filtering, a user can find all posts in a newsgroup made by Alan Erskine,
>> tag
>> them red or give them a +10 rating or both, save any purely text files to
>> disk, extract any binaries, and then delete the binary posts while leaving
>> the text-only posts alone.
>
>I can do that quite easily - it's just a matter of going to Tools, Message
>Rules, News and then "New". Easy.
>
>As for the rest, which newsreader can play videos (wmv, .avi, .mp3,)?
>Surely, you still need to have the relevant player installed on the
>computer.
>
>OE supports text other than Latin. It's just a matter of installing the
>preferred language (the computer will usually say which language it is).
>
>Proper automation - why have newsgroups if it can be done automatically? I
>spend very little time on newsgroups - few are worth it (which is why I'm so
>adament about what J3 did; as this group is very much worth fighting for).
>
>OE can go through the posts in a newsgroup - it's called "scrolling" - quite
>easy to do.
>
>OE can access any file, at will - as long as I have the software to view
>that particular format (one of the main problems with any software is
>compatibility with other formats).
>
>OE can restrict file formats quite easily - same as for filtering via the
>subject line.
>
>OE does everything that you say is necessary (with the exception of some
>formats like yEnc, which can be overcome with additional software - yEnc
>isn't all that common, with the exception of some porno groups who don't
>want people knowing what they are actually posting - most of those people
>end up in prison)
>
>As for email; I haven't had any problems with OE - it's doing just fine.

OE is full of security holes.

Does it do offline downloading yet?
--
http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com

Bill Clinton thinks "harass" is two words.

[hielan' laddie]

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:50:11 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
(in article >):

> "hielan' laddie" > wrote in message
> ...
>> He didn't do a damn thing other than post a few .rars. Precisely because
>> you
>> have an inadequate newsreader, you saw _each separate part_ as a different
>> post. Precisely because _I_ have a real newsreader, _I_ saw the posts as
>> one.
>> Instead of 35 parts of a .rar, I saw a .rar. Those who had real
>> newsreaders
>> simply did not see the 'clutter' that those who have crippled newsreaders
>> saw. The problem is not J3. The problem is your crippled newsreader.
>
> No, the problem was J3; he intentionally disrupted the majority of the users
> of this forum, with images that aren't even his, and posting them in a
> format that isn't known by most of the users of this forum. He could have
> respected the majority of the users of this forum by simply posting links
> for such a large group of images, or setting up his own website. Or, he
> could have simply done as I suggested - post a few at a time (I suggested
> between 4 and 40).

I don't think that you realise quite how many pix where in that collection.

>
> Oh and the vast majority of users of this forum use the same "crippled
> newsreader" that I use.

Popularity doesn't make it any less crippled.

> It's not just me, or a small number of people who
> were inconvenienced by J3, it was the overwhelming majority.

Tough. If you used a real newsreader you would have had no problems.

>
> As for my question about video players; you still have to have the codecs.

For some formats. Not all. Standard .mpgs play just fine without any codecs
using Hogwasher and MTNW. I've never tried with Agent, so I don't know about
that app. Other video formats, especially some varieties of .avis, require
codecs.

Pix do not. I say again, pix do not.

> If someone uploads a vid to a newsgroup, I can still click on it and play
> it, as long as I have the right player (RealPlayer plays all but QT as far
> as I have found).

I don't even need the player.

>
> And I didn't say I didn't like J3's stuff; it was the quantity that bugs me,
> not the format. Most people come here expecting to see pictures (that's the
> name of the group, afterall - quite specific about it, really); .rar's
> aren't pictures, they are a method of posting a large store of individual
> images in one folder-like package.

Yes, they do. They make it convenient to upload, and, if you have a real
newsreader, download a large amount of data. That is precisely the point
behind using .rars.

> Mitchell does quite will just with
> .jpg/jpeg format and so have all previous posters.

I repeat: you don't seem to realise just how many pix there were in that
collection. At 40/day it would have taken nearly four months to upload
them... and, as many of them would be sufficiently large that they'd have to
be split up to upload anyway, the screams of 'clutter' would have been
deafening.

> Considering the number
> of parts, he could have just as easily posted individual images, just like
> Mitchell does; there are methods of multiple posts, but I've never had a
> need to use them.

Actually, no, not really. And, again, if you had a real newsreader _you would
not have seen the individual parts, you would have seen just one file... and
would have easily been able to download or kill that one file at will_.

Your problem is your crippled newsreader.

>
> I don't have any delusions of any kind.

You have delusions that your newsreader isn't crippled.

> The group name includes "pictures"
> in its title; there is a multi-media group as well, if someone wishes to
> post video or audio.

These are individual pix. They're not audio or video.

>
> As I said before, I can control exactly what I see (you support that view
> also), so why do you mention this again ("One reason why _I_ use a real
> newsreader is _precisely_ so that I have _complete_ control over what _I_
> see in the newsgroup. If I don't want to see something, that something is
> _gone_. Unlike some, I _don't care if anyone else sees it_. I only care that
> _I_ don't.")?

Then killfilter the files. Problem done.

>
> As for yEnc, it's used by porno posters for the very reason that it's not
> very popular - most people, again the vast majority, won't be able to decode
> it.

Bull****. Anyone who uses a real newsreader can decode it.

>
>

[Stayfree[_2_]]

Gee, I don't really get off on rockets either but knowing the effort
put forth by J3, and since rockets and such seem to qualify as on
topic, seems like a ton of hysteria goes into the thread doesn't it?

I really don't get off on jet fighters, (worked on fighters for 20
years and only a few really blow my skirt up),...

....rockets are somewhat boring to me, (but man oh man some of the
pictures of rockets, rocket flights, and even attempts at rocket
flight are just amazing),...

....models and R/C planes don't do anything for me, (but there is
little that can provide the level and variety of entertainment to
match watching otherwise perfectly normal grownups, especially men,
gathering in a large field, acting like ten year olds, excited as all
get out when their plane flies the way they intended and crying when
the inevitable crash happens and destroys hundreds of hours of work,
and ya gotta admit they have the ability to crash them into any type
of object including moving ones)...

....not wild about most general aviation stuff (although growing up
with Sky King does make the old Beech an attractive plane),...

....flying trash cans, (known as targets to fighter pilots) don't get
me excited (but an old workhorse like the C-47 deserves everyones
respect and to me the there were a few beauties among the breed like
the C-124, C-133 and others),...

....helicopters, for the most part, leave me high and dry, (but after
watching rocket and gun attacks performed by these machines in Viet
Nam the Cobra is a remarkable, agile, ass kickin' machine and I'll
take those too),...

....airliners are so boring, (but sure handy when you want to travel
long distances in a hurry), so I usually don't grab those, (although
when I see a thread that refers to some of the art work on them I just
can't help myself),...

....most of the really early flying machines don't excite me either but
ya look at them and wonder "what ever made them think this was a good
idea, (since no one had done it before there were a lot of really
interesting ideas tried out, some still working on todays aircraft,
others making a comeback, and some so outrageously whacked out that
even though they might not have resulted in flight they have provided
generations of entertainment)...

So let's see now... that leaves my primary interests which revolve
around prop driven WWII fighter aircraft and especially those with
huge engines, quirky handling, and requiring pilots with balls the
size of watermellons, and WWII bombers which were produced is such
rapid timeframes and in such quantities you wonder why it is that in
todays 'market' it takes several years to get the simplest idea off
the ground.

Ok, post the pictures I like best and I will accept those I am not
wild about with grace, dignity, and with good manners. After all,
those are likely someone else's cup of tea, what turns their crank,
reminds them of a better time, gives them the pictures to explain to
their kids and grand kids what they did in the war, etc.

One of the greatest things about this group is the diversity,
interesting technical information and dialog, and great photos.

J3 probably won't download most of the rocket stuff, but I do
appreciate the posts since they are the dreams of others.

Stayfree