Re: Missing parts for NASA HiRes Shuttle Pics - NASA HiRes Shuttle Pics.part140.rar (01/35)

[jc[_4_]]

J3, ignore the idiots that are too stupid to not to download things they don't
understand or that they're too lazy to even try to figure out. There's no way
you can please everyone but the comments I've seen border on the ludicrous. No
one is forced to download anything here they don't want. Nor has the group ever
suffered from a lack of bandwidth.

From those of us who enjoyed the pictures, thank you.

As to those who whined and bitched and resorted to name calling like 5 year
olds... go find yourself a life - somewhere else. Someone tries to do you a
favor and all you do is find fault. If it bothers you that much, put the poster
in your kill file but keep your filty mouth shut about it. Every time you open
your mouth like that, you're just telling the world how much of a fool you are.
The thing is, no one else cares what you do or even what you think.
Cheers,
jc

[Alan Erskine[_3_]]

"jc" > wrote in message
...
>
> J3, ignore the idiots that are too stupid to not to download things they
> don't
> understand or that they're too lazy to even try to figure out. There's no
> way
> you can please everyone but the comments I've seen border on the
> ludicrous. No
> one is forced to download anything here they don't want. Nor has the
> group ever
> suffered from a lack of bandwidth.
>
> From those of us who enjoyed the pictures, thank you.
>
> As to those who whined and bitched and resorted to name calling like 5
> year
> olds... go find yourself a life - somewhere else. Someone tries to do you
> a
> favor and all you do is find fault. If it bothers you that much, put the
> poster
> in your kill file but keep your filty mouth shut about it. Every time you
> open
> your mouth like that, you're just telling the world how much of a fool you
> are.
> The thing is, no one else cares what you do or even what you think.
> Cheers,
> jc

Wow; big words (I'll bet you even spell-checked it, with the exception of
"filty" in the last paragraph; I think you meant "filthy")! People haven't
been complaining about the format so much as it is not a standard one - this
is a "binaries" group - that does not include .rar and .par files. When J3
announced his intention to flood the group, he didn't indicate that he was
going to use a non-standard format. Most people have never heard about .rar
and .par formats. If J3 had announced he was going to post in "x" format,
people could have prepared; instead, they missed many parts trying to work
out what was being posted.

People have been complaining that it has been going on for several days,
taking up room on individual servers; it's not the 'group' that stores the
data, as you would be aware. People have also been complaining about the
number of parts, which never show up on servers in any sequence.

If J3 had posted, say, four parts per day, or even 40, people wouldn't be
concerned about it as long as they were in sequence for that day. J3
however, chose to post several hundred parts; each out of sequence (not his
fault, I'm sure) and caused servers to be overloaded for more than five
days.

In addition, it is quite easy to post multiple images at one time; NG floods
in .jpg/.jpeg/.bmp format have been going on for years, long before .rar and
..par formats started to be used.

[jc[_4_]]

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:38:20 GMT, "Alan Erskine" >
wrote:

Alan, no matter how he posted it someone would have whined like a baby about
something. Is it so hard to simply ignore the stuff you don't like without all
the whining and complaining? And I don't think you could really call rar's 'non
standard.' They've been around for a while and while I haven't seen them here
much, I guess using google or yahoo to find out about them is just too much to
ask, right?

And no, I didn't and don't use a speel checker.
Cheers,
jc

[Alan Erskine[_3_]]

"jc" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:38:20 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
> >
> wrote:
>
> Alan, no matter how he posted it someone would have whined like a baby
> about
> something. Is it so hard to simply ignore the stuff you don't like
> without all
> the whining and complaining?

Yes, it is too much to ask. As I suggested, servers have limited capacity;
putting up as much data as J3 did at one time might exclude other's posts.

[Peter Hucker[_2_]]

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:29:38 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
> wrote:

>"jc" > wrote in message
...
>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:38:20 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> Alan, no matter how he posted it someone would have whined like a baby
>> about
>> something. Is it so hard to simply ignore the stuff you don't like
>> without all
>> the whining and complaining?
>
>Yes, it is too much to ask. As I suggested, servers have limited capacity;
>putting up as much data as J3 did at one time might exclude other's posts.

No servers I know of have limited capacity.
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After 3 or 4 beers, the gay fella finally plucks up the courage to say something to the big Liverpudlian.
Leaning over, he cups his huge ear. "Do you want a blow job?" he whispers.
At this, the massive Merseysider leaps up with fire in his eyes and smacks the man in the face, knocking him off the stool, he proceeds to beat him all the way out of the bar.
Finally he leaves him, badly bruised, in the car park and returns to his seat as if nothing had happened.
Amazed the bartender quickly brings over another beer. "I've never seen you react like that" he says. "Just what did he say to you?"
"I'm not sure" the big scouser replies." Something about a job."

[J3]

I intent on ignoring them. In fact there are large floods coming.

The will include Project Mercury, Project Gemini, Project Apollo &
Spacelab.. Also, on various launch vehicles such as Atlas, Delta,
Saturn, Titan just to name a few.

These will be the highest resolution image I have been able to find.
Regrettably, there will be some duplicates between Saturn and Project
Apollo, Titan & Project Gemini, etc. because the image actually
belongs in both categories.

I do not intent on resizing them to accommodate anyone. I want my
images large and that is how I keep them I may try posting them as
jpgs but because of their size, I am afraid too many will be corrupted
upon receipt. I hear their complains about RAR and PAR files and
choose to ignore them. The fact is, the receiver can rebuilt any
corrupted file on their end.

Nor do I intent on arguing with anyone about it. The vocal few may
not like it, but others do. So they can either upgrade their system
and/or get a real newsreader program or simply make a kill filter on
me. After all that is what kill filters are for, to block unwanted
communication. There are plenty of newsgroups where they can download
working, virus free copies. But the will probably be in RAR format.



On 13 Aug 2008 04:09:03 -0500, jc >
wrote:

>
>J3, ignore the idiots that are too stupid to not to download things they don't
>understand or that they're too lazy to even try to figure out. There's no way
>you can please everyone but the comments I've seen border on the ludicrous. No
>one is forced to download anything here they don't want. Nor has the group ever
>suffered from a lack of bandwidth.
>
>From those of us who enjoyed the pictures, thank you.
>
>As to those who whined and bitched and resorted to name calling like 5 year
>olds... go find yourself a life - somewhere else. Someone tries to do you a
>favor and all you do is find fault. If it bothers you that much, put the poster
>in your kill file but keep your filty mouth shut about it. Every time you open
>your mouth like that, you're just telling the world how much of a fool you are.
>The thing is, no one else cares what you do or even what you think.
>Cheers,
>jc

[Alan Erskine[_3_]]

"J3" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> I do not intent on resizing them to accommodate anyone. I want my
> images large and that is how I keep them

They are not your images. Your post has disrupted this group for five days.

[Alan Erskine[_3_]]

"Peter Hucker" > wrote in message
...
> No servers I know of have limited capacity.

Really? And how many servers are you aware of (location, type,
manufacturer, capacity etc)?

[Hans Holbein]

Alan Erskine schrieb:
> "jc" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> J3, ignore the idiots that are too stupid to not to download things they
>> don't
>> understand or that they're too lazy to even try to figure out. There's no
>> way
>> you can please everyone but the comments I've seen border on the
>> ludicrous. No
>> one is forced to download anything here they don't want. Nor has the
>> group ever
>> suffered from a lack of bandwidth.
>>
>> From those of us who enjoyed the pictures, thank you.
>>
>> As to those who whined and bitched and resorted to name calling like 5
>> year
>> olds... go find yourself a life - somewhere else. Someone tries to do you
>> a
>> favor and all you do is find fault. If it bothers you that much, put the
>> poster
>> in your kill file but keep your filty mouth shut about it. Every time you
>> open
>> your mouth like that, you're just telling the world how much of a fool you
>> are.
>> The thing is, no one else cares what you do or even what you think.
>> Cheers,
>> jc
>
> Wow; big words (I'll bet you even spell-checked it, with the exception of
> "filty" in the last paragraph; I think you meant "filthy")! People haven't
> been complaining about the format so much as it is not a standard one - this
> is a "binaries" group - that does not include .rar and .par files. When J3
> announced his intention to flood the group, he didn't indicate that he was
> going to use a non-standard format. Most people have never heard about .rar
> and .par formats. If J3 had announced he was going to post in "x" format,
> people could have prepared; instead, they missed many parts trying to work
> out what was being posted.
>
> People have been complaining that it has been going on for several days,
> taking up room on individual servers; it's not the 'group' that stores the
> data, as you would be aware. People have also been complaining about the
> number of parts, which never show up on servers in any sequence.
>
> If J3 had posted, say, four parts per day, or even 40, people wouldn't be
> concerned about it as long as they were in sequence for that day. J3
> however, chose to post several hundred parts; each out of sequence (not his
> fault, I'm sure) and caused servers to be overloaded for more than five
> days.

Recklessness or stupidity?
>
> In addition, it is quite easy to post multiple images at one time; NG floods
> in .jpg/.jpeg/.bmp format have been going on for years, long before .rar and
> .par formats started to be used.
>
>
What about changing the Charta?
Is it possible to set a group-filter for all non jpg and Mutlipart so
they dont sign up for anyone?

[Alan Erskine[_3_]]

"Hans Holbein" > wrote in message
...
> Alan Erskine schrieb:

>> If J3 had posted, say, four parts per day, or even 40, people wouldn't be
>> concerned about it as long as they were in sequence for that day. J3
>> however, chose to post several hundred parts; each out of sequence (not
>> his
>> fault, I'm sure) and caused servers to be overloaded for more than five
>> days.
>
> Recklessness or stupidity?
>>
>> In addition, it is quite easy to post multiple images at one time; NG
>> floods
>> in .jpg/.jpeg/.bmp format have been going on for years, long before .rar
>> and
>> .par formats started to be used.
>>
>>
> What about changing the Charta?
> Is it possible to set a group-filter for all non jpg and Mutlipart so
> they dont sign up for anyone?

I don't think a ng charter can be changed. I don't even know where to find
it. However, I don't think excluding .rar etc is necessary, just the
elimination of floods and etsunamis like the one J3 created (either, as you
pointed out, reclessly or through stupidity).

[Gary R. Schmidt]

Peter Hucker wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:29:38 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
> > wrote:
>
>> "jc" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:38:20 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Alan, no matter how he posted it someone would have whined like a baby
>>> about
>>> something. Is it so hard to simply ignore the stuff you don't like
>>> without all
>>> the whining and complaining?
>> Yes, it is too much to ask. As I suggested, servers have limited capacity;
>> putting up as much data as J3 did at one time might exclude other's posts.
>
> No servers I know of have limited capacity.
For Binaries??? Often those who carry them limit the space and/or
retention time of them, some as low as 24 hours, but most are around 5
or 10 days.

Some of the commercial Usenet operations, e.g. OctaNews, carry them for
a lot longer, 3 months or so.

Cheers,
Gary B-)

--
__________________________________________________ ____________________________
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whether you were up them with or not
- Barry Humphries

[Alan Erskine[_3_]]

"Gary R. Schmidt" > wrote in message
...
> Peter Hucker wrote:
>> No servers I know of have limited capacity.
> For Binaries??? Often those who carry them limit the space and/or
> retention time of them, some as low as 24 hours, but most are around 5 or
> 10 days.
>
> Some of the commercial Usenet operations, e.g. OctaNews, carry them for a
> lot longer, 3 months or so.

Thank you for answering the question for Peter, Gary.

[Peter Hucker[_2_]]

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:22:43 +1000, "Gary R. Schmidt"
> wrote:

>Peter Hucker wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:29:38 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> "jc" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:38:20 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Alan, no matter how he posted it someone would have whined like a baby
>>>> about
>>>> something. Is it so hard to simply ignore the stuff you don't like
>>>> without all
>>>> the whining and complaining?
>>> Yes, it is too much to ask. As I suggested, servers have limited capacity;
>>> putting up as much data as J3 did at one time might exclude other's posts.
>>
>> No servers I know of have limited capacity.
>For Binaries??? Often those who carry them limit the space and/or
>retention time of them, some as low as 24 hours, but most are around 5
>or 10 days.
>
>Some of the commercial Usenet operations, e.g. OctaNews, carry them for
>a lot longer, 3 months or so.

Yes, it's usually a time limit, spread across ALL binary groups. J3's
posts is nothing compared with all the trafffic in every binary group
on the server.
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[Peter Hucker[_2_]]

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:20:53 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
> wrote:

>"Hans Holbein" > wrote in message
...
>> Alan Erskine schrieb:
>
>>> If J3 had posted, say, four parts per day, or even 40, people wouldn't be
>>> concerned about it as long as they were in sequence for that day. J3
>>> however, chose to post several hundred parts; each out of sequence (not
>>> his
>>> fault, I'm sure) and caused servers to be overloaded for more than five
>>> days.
>>
>> Recklessness or stupidity?
>>>
>>> In addition, it is quite easy to post multiple images at one time; NG
>>> floods
>>> in .jpg/.jpeg/.bmp format have been going on for years, long before .rar
>>> and
>>> .par formats started to be used.
>>>
>>>
>> What about changing the Charta?
>> Is it possible to set a group-filter for all non jpg and Mutlipart so
>> they dont sign up for anyone?
>
>I don't think a ng charter can be changed. I don't even know where to find
>it. However, I don't think excluding .rar etc is necessary, just the
>elimination of floods and etsunamis like the one J3 created (either, as you
>pointed out, reclessly or through stupidity).

Charters are only a guide anyway. They don't actually do anything.
--
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[Peter Hucker[_2_]]

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 00:13:24 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
> wrote:

>"J3" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>
>> I do not intent on resizing them to accommodate anyone. I want my
>> images large and that is how I keep them
>
>They are not your images. Your post has disrupted this group for five days.

Not for me it hasn't.
--
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[Lee[_2_]]

J3 > wrote in
:

>
> I intent on ignoring them. In fact there are large floods coming.
>
> The will include Project Mercury, Project Gemini, Project Apollo &
> Spacelab.. Also, on various launch vehicles such as Atlas, Delta,
> Saturn, Titan just to name a few.
>
> These will be the highest resolution image I have been able to find.
> Regrettably, there will be some duplicates between Saturn and Project
> Apollo, Titan & Project Gemini, etc. because the image actually
> belongs in both categories.
>


J3... You are now officially the man of the year. PLEASE post
the Mercury and Gemini stuff first!!! Pictures of those projects
are my own personal porn. I get off on the early stuff.

And about the ****ers and moaners... "Better put some ice on that"

[Peter Hucker[_2_]]

On 14 Aug 2008 18:19:30 GMT, Lee >
wrote:

>J3 > wrote in
:
>
>>
>> I intent on ignoring them. In fact there are large floods coming.
>>
>> The will include Project Mercury, Project Gemini, Project Apollo &
>> Spacelab.. Also, on various launch vehicles such as Atlas, Delta,
>> Saturn, Titan just to name a few.
>>
>> These will be the highest resolution image I have been able to find.
>> Regrettably, there will be some duplicates between Saturn and Project
>> Apollo, Titan & Project Gemini, etc. because the image actually
>> belongs in both categories.
>>
>
>
>J3... You are now officially the man of the year. PLEASE post
>the Mercury and Gemini stuff first!!! Pictures of those projects
>are my own personal porn. I get off on the early stuff.
>
>And about the ****ers and moaners... "Better put some ice on that"

Agreed.
--
http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com

A fella was saying to his friend,
"My wife seems to have developed some sort of fixation that her collection of fur coats will be stolen.
When I came home early one day last week, I found she'd hired someone to GUARD them!
In fact, she stationed the poor guy right inside the closet!"

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Lee" > wrote

> J3... You are now officially the man of the year. PLEASE post
> the Mercury and Gemini stuff first!!! Pictures of those projects
> are my own personal porn. I get off on the early stuff.

So why not go directly to the NASA site, and get them all first hand, in the
order that you want them?

J3- Please don't act out in reaction to the criticism, by posting all the
space stuff, like you just announced. You don't have to try and prove
anything.
--
Jim in NC

[Lee[_2_]]

"Morgans" > wrote in
:

>
> So why not go directly to the NASA site, and get them all first hand,
> in the order that you want them?


Once again, for *at least* the fifth time that I'm aware of...

Not all of the pictures collected and posted by J3 are NASA PIO stuff!!
Many are from private collections, affiliated contractors, universities,
et al, etc., ad nasueum.

If he posts them as he says (for those who pay attention) when and where
possible, the projects will be separated into groups of Mercury, Gemini,
Apollo... et al, etc., ad naseum.

I would suggest you kill-file J3 for a few months, if not, please refrain
from ****ing and moaning... you were warned.

And for those fearing that other posts will be knocked off, get a premium
service that has retention. I have NewsGuy. It may not be the big dog,
but in many newsgroups, I can go back about 6 months.

[Alan Erskine[_3_]]

Lee" > wrote in message
.82...

> And for those fearing that other posts will be knocked off, get a premium
> service that has retention. I have NewsGuy. It may not be the big dog,
> but in many newsgroups, I can go back about 6 months.

Why should we wait for six months to download an image that was posted
yesterday?

[hielan' laddie]

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:29:38 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
(in article >):

> "jc" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:38:20 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> Alan, no matter how he posted it someone would have whined like a baby
>> about
>> something. Is it so hard to simply ignore the stuff you don't like
>> without all
>> the whining and complaining?
>
> Yes, it is too much to ask.

So you don't have delusions of control and don't want to control what others
post, eh?

> As I suggested, servers have limited capacity;

Get a good newsfeed. Newsguy keeps binaries for 100 days.

> putting up as much data as J3 did at one time might exclude other's posts.
>
>

Crippled newsreader, crippled newsfeed, delusions of power. Sucks to be you.

[hielan' laddie]

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:14:16 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
(in article >):

> "Peter Hucker" > wrote in message
> ...
>> No servers I know of have limited capacity.
>
> Really? And how many servers are you aware of (location, type,
> manufacturer, capacity etc)?
>
>

Newsguy and Giganews each keep binaries for at least 100 days. Hmm.. I just
looked. <http://www.giganews.com/> says that Giganews keeps binaries for
_200_ days. Newsguy <http://newsguy.com/> guarantees 90 days, but in my
experiences it's always over 100.

[hielan' laddie]

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:22:43 -0400, Gary R. Schmidt wrote
(in article >):

> Peter Hucker wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:29:38 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> "jc" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:38:20 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Alan, no matter how he posted it someone would have whined like a baby
>>>> about
>>>> something. Is it so hard to simply ignore the stuff you don't like
>>>> without all
>>>> the whining and complaining?
>>> Yes, it is too much to ask. As I suggested, servers have limited
>>> capacity;
>>> putting up as much data as J3 did at one time might exclude other's posts.
>>
>> No servers I know of have limited capacity.
> For Binaries???

Yes, for binaries. Newsguy and Giganews, to name two newsfeeds I know of,
keep binaries for 100 days or more.

> Often those who carry them limit the space and/or
> retention time of them, some as low as 24 hours, but most are around 5
> or 10 days.
>
> Some of the commercial Usenet operations, e.g. OctaNews, carry them for
> a lot longer, 3 months or so.

Yep.

>
> Cheers,
> Gary B-)
>
>

[hielan' laddie]

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:14:20 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
(in article >):

> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:22:43 +1000, "Gary R. Schmidt"
> > wrote:
>
>> Peter Hucker wrote:
>>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:29:38 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "jc" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:38:20 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
>>>>> >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan, no matter how he posted it someone would have whined like a baby
>>>>> about
>>>>> something. Is it so hard to simply ignore the stuff you don't like
>>>>> without all
>>>>> the whining and complaining?
>>>> Yes, it is too much to ask. As I suggested, servers have limited
>>>> capacity;
>>>> putting up as much data as J3 did at one time might exclude other's
>>>> posts.
>>>
>>> No servers I know of have limited capacity.
>> For Binaries??? Often those who carry them limit the space and/or
>> retention time of them, some as low as 24 hours, but most are around 5
>> or 10 days.
>>
>> Some of the commercial Usenet operations, e.g. OctaNews, carry them for
>> a lot longer, 3 months or so.
>
> Yes, it's usually a time limit, spread across ALL binary groups. J3's
> posts is nothing compared with all the trafffic in every binary group
> on the server.
>

Exactly. The moaners are making a mountain out of a pimple.

Ignore 'em, J3. Keep on going.

Just to **** 'em off further, I may post a few of the pix as well... using
YENC, of course.

[hielan' laddie]

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:42:58 -0400, J3 wrote
(in article >):

>
> I intent on ignoring them. In fact there are large floods coming.
>
> The will include Project Mercury, Project Gemini, Project Apollo &
> Spacelab.. Also, on various launch vehicles such as Atlas, Delta,
> Saturn, Titan just to name a few.

Thank you. Do you mind if I repost a few, selected, pix from your floods?

>
> These will be the highest resolution image I have been able to find.
> Regrettably, there will be some duplicates between Saturn and Project
> Apollo, Titan & Project Gemini, etc. because the image actually
> belongs in both categories.
>
> I do not intent on resizing them to accommodate anyone. I want my
> images large and that is how I keep them I may try posting them as
> jpgs but because of their size, I am afraid too many will be corrupted
> upon receipt. I hear their complains about RAR and PAR files and
> choose to ignore them. The fact is, the receiver can rebuilt any
> corrupted file on their end.

Quite. You provided more than enough .pars to rebuild the entire post. I got
all of the first post without a problem.

But then I have a real newsreader and use a real newsfeed.

Ignore the silly gits.

>
> Nor do I intent on arguing with anyone about it. The vocal few may
> not like it, but others do. So they can either upgrade their system
> and/or get a real newsreader program or simply make a kill filter on
> me. After all that is what kill filters are for, to block unwanted
> communication. There are plenty of newsgroups where they can download
> working, virus free copies. But the will probably be in RAR format.

They have delusions of control. They're gonna whinge and whinge and stamp
their little feet and hold their breath 'til they turn blue... and it will
not affect those who have real newsreaders one iota. If the volume of
whinging gets too high, well, that's what killfilters are for. It would be
simplicity in itself to set a filter which kills all posts in this newsgroup
which were posted by MSOE (or MS Mail) and which do not contain binaries. The
main reason I haven't already set such a filter is that watching them scream
to absolutely no effect is so amusing.

They have it within their power to fix their problems:

1 set a killfilter.

or 2 get a better newsreader.

or 3 both.

If they refuse to do one of the above I have no sympathy whatsoever for them.
Especially when they simply make stuff up to try to support their position.

>
>
>
> On 13 Aug 2008 04:09:03 -0500, jc >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> J3, ignore the idiots that are too stupid to not to download things they
>> don't
>> understand or that they're too lazy to even try to figure out. There's no
>> way
>> you can please everyone but the comments I've seen border on the ludicrous.
>> No
>> one is forced to download anything here they don't want. Nor has the group
>> ever
>> suffered from a lack of bandwidth.
>>
>> From those of us who enjoyed the pictures, thank you.
>>
>> As to those who whined and bitched and resorted to name calling like 5 year
>> olds... go find yourself a life - somewhere else. Someone tries to do you a
>> favor and all you do is find fault. If it bothers you that much, put the
>> poster
>> in your kill file but keep your filty mouth shut about it. Every time you
>> open
>> your mouth like that, you're just telling the world how much of a fool you
>> are.
>> The thing is, no one else cares what you do or even what you think.
>> Cheers,
>> jc

[hielan' laddie]

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:13:24 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
(in article >):

> "J3" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> I do not intent on resizing them to accommodate anyone. I want my
>> images large and that is how I keep them
>
> They are not your images.

They're public domain, paid for by taxpayer money.

> Your post has disrupted this group for five days.
>

He's posted excellent pix. Pity you can't see them, but that's _your_ choice
and _your_ problem. Get a better newsreader or set a killfilter. Your choice.

[hielan' laddie]

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:15:21 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
(in article >):

> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 00:13:24 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
> > wrote:
>
>> "J3" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> I do not intent on resizing them to accommodate anyone. I want my
>>> images large and that is how I keep them
>>
>> They are not your images. Your post has disrupted this group for five days.
>
> Not for me it hasn't.
>

Yep.

[hielan' laddie]

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:25:55 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
(in article >):

> Lee" > wrote in message
> .82...
>
>> And for those fearing that other posts will be knocked off, get a premium
>> service that has retention. I have NewsGuy. It may not be the big dog,
>> but in many newsgroups, I can go back about 6 months.
>
> Why should we wait for six months to download an image that was posted
> yesterday?
>
>

You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. Newsguy will _retain
binaries_ for _at least 90 days, often as long as 180 days_. That means that
_anything posted_, by _anyone_, to _any binary group that Newsguy carries_,
including _this one_, will be available for a minimum of _90 days_. Anyone
who says that J3's stuff 'knocks off' other posts is either vastly ignorant
or merely lying. Newsguy, and other newsfeeds such as Giganews, routinely
keep binaries for _months_.

To make it clear enough even for those who have room temperature IQs: _every
single binary posted on this newsgroup for the last 90 to 180 days is
available on Newsguy right now_. Giganews will store at least 200 days worth
of binaries. You do NOT have to wait six months, you can get them today...
but if you missed one, you have up to six months to go and search for it!

Of course, that is a rather large number of posts to search through. You
might need a, ahem, _real newsreader_ with _real filtering_ and _automation_
to go through all those posts and find the one you want, unless you want to
sped an inordinate amount of time doing it by hand. Hmm. You're using MSOE.
Oops. Sucks to be you. Guess you do it by hand... assuming that MSOE can even
handle that number of posts, which is something I don't know and simply don't
care about.

[Wayne Paul]

"hielan' laddie" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:14:20 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
> (in article >):
>
>
> Exactly. The moaners are making a mountain out of a pimple.
>
> Ignore 'em, J3. Keep on going.
>
> Just to **** 'em off further, I may post a few of the pix as well... using
> YENC, of course.
>

I have enjoyed this group for the past five years. I am sad to report that
due to the negativity and lack of civility I will be no longer
participating.

It is obvious that very few of you care whether I am here or not; however,
if others like me keep leaving all that will be left are people with
vocabulary are limited to four letter words and masculinity measured by
their ability to demean users who lack the latest "geek" skills.

[hielan' laddie]

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:29:30 -0400, Wayne Paul wrote
(in article >):

>
> "hielan' laddie" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:14:20 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
>> (in article >):
>>
>>
>> Exactly. The moaners are making a mountain out of a pimple.
>>
>> Ignore 'em, J3. Keep on going.
>>
>> Just to **** 'em off further, I may post a few of the pix as well... using
>> YENC, of course.
>>
>
> I have enjoyed this group for the past five years. I am sad to report that
> due to the negativity and lack of civility I will be no longer
> participating.
>
> It is obvious that very few of you care whether I am here or not; however,
> if others like me keep leaving all that will be left are people with
> vocabulary are limited to four letter words and masculinity measured by
> their ability to demean users who lack the latest "geek" skills.
>
>
>

So which 'four letter words' annoyed you? '****'? Ooh, golly gee whillickers.
Such an obscenity. Hide the children.

I have repeatedly stated, in so many words, that I _don't care_ which
newsreader anyone else uses. If you want to use something crippled, it's no
skin off of _my_ nose. Go for it, use whatever you like. However, I _do_ care
when those who use inadequate, crippled, newsreaders, bitch and moan when
someone posts something that their inadequate, crippled, newsreader can't
handle. Your bitching and moaning is an attempt to prevent me from using _my_
chosen newsreader to the best of its abilities, something which strikes me
presumptuous, and, given your lack of ability to actually enforce your
wishes, stupid. I, personally, have pointed out on repeated occasions, there
are a multitude of cheap/free newsreaders which are _not_ crippled. If
someone refuses to use one of them, well, that's just too damn (oops, there's
that potty-mouth again, ah, well, tough...) bad. Use the newsreader you
like... but don't complain if you can't see some posts. Your inability to see
certain posts is _your_ problem. Deal with it. Or don't. I don't give a damn.
(potty mouth strikes again!)

As for the 'latest in "geek" skills'... The version of Hogwasher I use dates
to 2006. Anyone who uses MS Mail from Vista has a newer newsreader than I do.
Of course, they have a newer _crippled_ newsreader while I have an older
_real_ newsreader, but hey, I made a choice a long time ago to move away from
MSOE precisely because it was crippled then... and it hasn't improved since.
The 'geek skills' I have mentioned are merely the ability to use a filter:
either to filter _in_ the files you want to see, or to filter _out_ the files
you _don't_ want to see. I have been assured that MSOE has this ability. You
could, if you wish, use it and filter out my posts, plus any .rar and YENC
posts. Or you can bitch and moan and whinge and achieve _nothing_ other than
making yourself a figure of fun. Your choice, m'man.

And if you would rather leave than make the minimal effort to get a real
newsreader, well, that speaks volumes about _you_. Go with God... just don't
let the doorknob hit you on the ass (oops! potty mouth again!) on your way
out.

[Alan Erskine[_3_]]

"hielan' laddie" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:29:38 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote

> Crippled newsreader, crippled newsfeed, delusions of power. Sucks to be
> you.

How old are you?

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Wayne Paul" > wrote

> It is obvious that very few of you care whether I am here or not;

Not the case at all.

All they want is for you (and or others) to post within limitations that
allow non geek people to look at all of the pictures posted.

I believe that would be summarized by:

Not too many pictures per day. 40 has been suggested as a top number.

Post using formats that the newsreader used by the vast majority of reader
use. That would be jpegs, and OE, respectively.
You have to remember that not everyone has the geek skills to do much more
than that, or the aptitude or desire to learn any higher geek skills.

Post in resolutions that require no more than (my arbitrary limit) of 250
KB. You have to remember that many people do not have broadband
connections, and are not able to, either by limitations of money or distance
from telephone switches for DSL or by the lack of cable systems in their
neighborhoods that offer cable modems.

I hope you reconsider, and can continue within the limitations that many on
the group have expressed as deal killers for them.
--
Jim in NC

[Alan Erskine[_3_]]

"hielan' laddie" > wrote in message
...
> To make it clear enough even for those who have room temperature IQs:

Actually, junior; I've got an IQ of 151 (WAIS III, November 17, 2001).

[Lee[_2_]]

"Alan Erskine" > wrote in news:OJDpk.28882
:

> "hielan' laddie" > wrote in message
> ...
>> To make it clear enough even for those who have room temperature IQs:
>
> Actually, junior; I've got an IQ of 151 (WAIS III, November 17, 2001).
>
>

And I've known *many* folks with as high or higher IQ's than your arbitrary
"everything's relative" quotient, who couldn't tie their own shoes...
junior. I've read many of your follow-up postings in this group. You
might consider a re-test. Just a suggestion, hon.

Without checking, I think it was Will Rogers who said, "Everyone is
ignorant about something." Welcome to splits, PARs and RARs.

[Peter Hucker[_2_]]

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:56:48 -0400, "Morgans"
> wrote:

>
>"Wayne Paul" > wrote
>
>> It is obvious that very few of you care whether I am here or not;
>
>Not the case at all.
>
>All they want is for you (and or others) to post within limitations that
>allow non geek people to look at all of the pictures posted.
>
>I believe that would be summarized by:
>
>Not too many pictures per day. 40 has been suggested as a top number.
>
>Post using formats that the newsreader used by the vast majority of reader
>use. That would be jpegs, and OE, respectively.
>You have to remember that not everyone has the geek skills to do much more
>than that, or the aptitude or desire to learn any higher geek skills.
>
>Post in resolutions that require no more than (my arbitrary limit) of 250
>KB. You have to remember that many people do not have broadband
>connections,

Why hamper the rest of us with postage stamp sized pictures? I got
broadband for a reason!!!

>and are not able to, either by limitations of money or distance
>from telephone switches for DSL or by the lack of cable systems in their
>neighborhoods that offer cable modems.
>
>I hope you reconsider, and can continue within the limitations that many on
>the group have expressed as deal killers for them.
--
http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com

My nephew and I were playing a game of chess tonight. In desperation he mockingly tried to cheat. In a poor imitation of an Italian gangster I said, "You want I should beat you up?"
He replied in turn, "I'll kill you first."
"Ah," I replied. "The Sicilian Defense."

[Peter Hucker[_2_]]

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:51:41 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
> wrote:

>"hielan' laddie" > wrote in message
...
>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:29:38 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
>
>> Crippled newsreader, crippled newsfeed, delusions of power. Sucks to be
>> you.
>
>How old are you?

You are the one moaning complaining and trying to control others.
--
http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com

Can you be a closet claustrophobic?

[Peter Hucker[_2_]]

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:17:58 -0400, hielan' laddie
> wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:13:24 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
>(in article >):
>
>> "J3" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> I do not intent on resizing them to accommodate anyone. I want my
>>> images large and that is how I keep them
>>
>> They are not your images.
>
>They're public domain, paid for by taxpayer money.

American taxpayers (chortle)

>> Your post has disrupted this group for five days.
>>
>
>He's posted excellent pix. Pity you can't see them, but that's _your_ choice
>and _your_ problem. Get a better newsreader or set a killfilter. Your choice.
--
http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com

Can you be a closet claustrophobic?

[Alan Erskine[_3_]]

"Lee" > wrote in message
.93...

> Without checking, I think it was Will Rogers who said, "Everyone is
> ignorant about something." Welcome to splits, PARs and RARs.

Technology changes; the technology concerning the internet has changed
radically, with all sorts of different formats coming and going. Only a few
have stood the test of time - .rar and .par are only recent and are only
used to post large numbers of files in one piece.

Oh, and I was one of the people who helped explain .rar to those on this
group who didn't know. So, what am I ignorant of?

One of the things that hasn't been mentioned is that there are different
..rar decompressors for different operating systems. That is not a problem
with conventional files like .jpg etc which are recognised by all current
operating systems. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.rar explains the various
versions. Now, if it were that good, why don't all the OS companies simply
incorporate it into their software?

Just like with yEnc - welcome to the world of fad software.

[Alan Erskine[_3_]]

"Lee" > wrote in message
.93...
> "Alan Erskine" > wrote in news:OJDpk.28882
> :
>
>> "hielan' laddie" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> To make it clear enough even for those who have room temperature IQs:
>>
>> Actually, junior; I've got an IQ of 151 (WAIS III, November 17, 2001).
>>
>>
>
> And I've known *many* folks with as high or higher IQ's than your
> arbitrary
> "everything's relative" quotient, who couldn't tie their own shoes...
> junior. I've read many of your follow-up postings in this group. You
> might consider a re-test. Just a suggestion, hon.

And for your information, there are different IQ tests; each with a
different rating (one one test, I might be 185; but on another I might be
137); the really significant value is the percentage - I'm in the 99th
percentile for my age group - that's the top 1 percent. People in that
range don't have trouble tying their own shoes. I doubt very strongly that
you know anyone in my range of IQ, let alone someone in that range who has
trouble with their shoe laces.

[Alan Erskine[_3_]]

"Peter Hucker" > wrote in message
...
>
> You are the one moaning complaining and trying to control others.

Oh, you mean like what J3's been doing; by posting in a format that very few
on this group want or have any knowledge about? If you mean "control
others" in that context, clearly, you are mistaken; as I have not forced
anyone to aquire software for a specific file type. J3, and the proponents
of .rar have, on the other hand, been the ones trying to control others.

[Peter Hucker[_2_]]

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:43:42 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
> wrote:

>"Lee" > wrote in message
.93...
>
>> Without checking, I think it was Will Rogers who said, "Everyone is
>> ignorant about something." Welcome to splits, PARs and RARs.
>
>Technology changes; the technology concerning the internet has changed
>radically, with all sorts of different formats coming and going. Only a few
>have stood the test of time - .rar and .par are only recent and are only
>used to post large numbers of files in one piece.

No it isn't recent.

>Oh, and I was one of the people who helped explain .rar to those on this
>group who didn't know. So, what am I ignorant of?
>
>One of the things that hasn't been mentioned is that there are different
>.rar decompressors for different operating systems. That is not a problem
>with conventional files like .jpg etc which are recognised by all current
>operating systems.

So is rar.

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.rar explains the various
>versions. Now, if it were that good, why don't all the OS companies simply
>incorporate it into their software?

Because most people use zip. But it sux at multipart.

>Just like with yEnc - welcome to the world of fad software.

No, it's niche software.
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What does a Scotsman wear under his kilt?
Lipstick, if he's lucky.

[®i©ardo]

Alan Erskine wrote:
> "Lee" > wrote in message
> .93...
>> "Alan Erskine" > wrote in news:OJDpk.28882
>> :
>>
>>> "hielan' laddie" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> To make it clear enough even for those who have room temperature IQs:
>>> Actually, junior; I've got an IQ of 151 (WAIS III, November 17, 2001).
>>>
>>>
>> And I've known *many* folks with as high or higher IQ's than your
>> arbitrary
>> "everything's relative" quotient, who couldn't tie their own shoes...
>> junior. I've read many of your follow-up postings in this group. You
>> might consider a re-test. Just a suggestion, hon.
>
> And for your information, there are different IQ tests; each with a
> different rating (one one test, I might be 185; but on another I might be
> 137); the really significant value is the percentage - I'm in the 99th
> percentile for my age group - that's the top 1 percent. People in that
> range don't have trouble tying their own shoes. I doubt very strongly that
> you know anyone in my range of IQ, let alone someone in that range who has
> trouble with their shoe laces.
>
>
We also tend to be more modest than most people...

--
Moving things in still pictures!

[Lee[_2_]]

"Alan Erskine" > wrote in
:

> "Lee" > wrote in message
> .93...
>> "Alan Erskine" > wrote in news:OJDpk.28882
>> :
>>
>>> "hielan' laddie" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> To make it clear enough even for those who have room temperature
>>>> IQs:
>>>
>>> Actually, junior; I've got an IQ of 151 (WAIS III, November 17,
>>> 2001).
>>>
>>>
>>
>> And I've known *many* folks with as high or higher IQ's than your
>> arbitrary
>> "everything's relative" quotient, who couldn't tie their own shoes...
>> junior. I've read many of your follow-up postings in this group.
>> You might consider a re-test. Just a suggestion, hon.
>
> And for your information, there are different IQ tests; each with a
> different rating (one one test, I might be 185; but on another I might
> be 137); the really significant value is the percentage - I'm in the
> 99th percentile for my age group - that's the top 1 percent. People
> in that range don't have trouble tying their own shoes. I doubt very
> strongly that you know anyone in my range of IQ, let alone someone in
> that range who has trouble with their shoe laces.
>
>

....But most have distinct difficulties in comprehension. Which you
unknowingly edified for all and articulated with the "different IQ
tests" statement AFTER I said ""everything's relative" quotient."

I've taken a plethora of these tests, the results of which you'd have to
look upward to see. But what they found was that I lack what you have
oceans of... hubris. And a genius as yourself is one of many whining
about having to deal with RARs? Hmmmmmm Edge-i-kate-ed idiots.

[hielan' laddie]

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:51:41 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
(in article >):

> "hielan' laddie" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:29:38 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
>
>> Crippled newsreader, crippled newsfeed, delusions of power. Sucks to be
>> you.
>
> How old are you?
>
>

Old enough to know how to get, and use, a real newsreader.

[hielan' laddie]

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:41:16 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
(in article >):

> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:17:58 -0400, hielan' laddie
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:13:24 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
>> (in article >):
>>
>>> "J3" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I do not intent on resizing them to accommodate anyone. I want my
>>>> images large and that is how I keep them
>>>
>>> They are not your images.
>>
>> They're public domain, paid for by taxpayer money.
>
> American taxpayers (chortle)

Yep. Non-Yankees get 'em for free.

>
>>> Your post has disrupted this group for five days.
>>>
>>
>> He's posted excellent pix. Pity you can't see them, but that's _your_
>> choice
>> and _your_ problem. Get a better newsreader or set a killfilter. Your
>> choice.
>

[hielan' laddie]

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:01:34 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
(in article >):

> "hielan' laddie" > wrote in message
> ...
>> To make it clear enough even for those who have room temperature IQs:
>
> Actually, junior; I've got an IQ of 151 (WAIS III, November 17, 2001).
>
>

I doubt that very much. If you did, you'd not have made such a truly idiotic
post.

[hielan' laddie]

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:20:47 -0400, Lee wrote
(in article >):

> "Alan Erskine" > wrote in news:OJDpk.28882
> :
>
>> "hielan' laddie" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> To make it clear enough even for those who have room temperature IQs:
>>
>> Actually, junior; I've got an IQ of 151 (WAIS III, November 17, 2001).
>>
>>
>
> And I've known *many* folks with as high or higher IQ's than your arbitrary
> "everything's relative" quotient, who couldn't tie their own shoes...
> junior.

I suspect that he _thinks_ (if what he does can be called thought...) that I
am considerably younger than I am. Clue for the clueless: I've been on USENET
since 1994, and before that I had spent years on various BBSes.

> I've read many of your follow-up postings in this group. You
> might consider a re-test. Just a suggestion, hon.

I doubt very much that he's ever had an IQ test.

>
> Without checking, I think it was Will Rogers who said, "Everyone is
> ignorant about something." Welcome to splits, PARs and RARs.

[hielan' laddie]

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:56:48 -0400, Morgans wrote
(in article >):

>
> "Wayne Paul" > wrote
>
>> It is obvious that very few of you care whether I am here or not;
>
> Not the case at all.
>
> All they want is for you (and or others) to post within limitations that
> allow non geek people to look at all of the pictures posted.
>
> I believe that would be summarized by:
>
> Not too many pictures per day. 40 has been suggested as a top number.

'Suggested' by you. Not out to control things, eh? Yeah. Right.

>
> Post using formats that the newsreader used by the vast majority of reader
> use. That would be jpegs, and OE, respectively.

So those who have real newsreaders must scale back to cater to those who
can't be arsed to get a real newsreader? Not bloody likely.

> You have to remember that not everyone has the geek skills to do much more
> than that, or the aptitude or desire to learn any higher geek skills.

Then bloody well killfilter the files you don't want to see. Don't tell
others that they can't post 'em.

>
> Post in resolutions that require no more than (my arbitrary limit) of 250
> KB. You have to remember that many people do not have broadband
> connections, and are not able to, either by limitations of money or distance
> from telephone switches for DSL or by the lack of cable systems in their
> neighborhoods that offer cable modems.

Tough.

>
> I hope you reconsider, and can continue within the limitations that many on
> the group have expressed as deal killers for them.
>

[JRW]

hielan' laddie wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:56:48 -0400, Morgans wrote
> (in article >):
>
>
>> "Wayne Paul" > wrote
>>
>>
>>> It is obvious that very few of you care whether I am here or not;
>>>
>> Not the case at all.
>>
>> All they want is for you (and or others) to post within limitations that
>> allow non geek people to look at all of the pictures posted.
>>
>> I believe that would be summarized by:
>>
>> Not too many pictures per day. 40 has been suggested as a top number.
>>
>
> 'Suggested' by you. Not out to control things, eh? Yeah. Right.
>
>
>> Post using formats that the newsreader used by the vast majority of reader
>> use. That would be jpegs, and OE, respectively.
>>
>
> So those who have real newsreaders must scale back to cater to those who
> can't be arsed to get a real newsreader? Not bloody likely.
>
>
>> You have to remember that not everyone has the geek skills to do much more
>> than that, or the aptitude or desire to learn any higher geek skills.
>>
>
> Then bloody well killfilter the files you don't want to see. Don't tell
> others that they can't post 'em.
>
>
>> Post in resolutions that require no more than (my arbitrary limit) of 250
>> KB. You have to remember that many people do not have broadband
>> connections, and are not able to, either by limitations of money or distance
>> from telephone switches for DSL or by the lack of cable systems in their
>> neighborhoods that offer cable modems.
>>
>
> Tough.
>
>
>> I hope you reconsider, and can continue within the limitations that many on
>> the group have expressed as deal killers for them.
>>
>>
>
>
>
Have another drink, your post show your soused.

[hielan' laddie]

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 05:59:07 -0400, JRW wrote
(in article >):

> hielan' laddie wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:56:48 -0400, Morgans wrote
>> (in article >):
>>
>>
>>> "Wayne Paul" > wrote
>>>
>>>
>>>> It is obvious that very few of you care whether I am here or not;
>>>>
>>> Not the case at all.
>>>
>>> All they want is for you (and or others) to post within limitations that
>>> allow non geek people to look at all of the pictures posted.
>>>
>>> I believe that would be summarized by:
>>>
>>> Not too many pictures per day. 40 has been suggested as a top number.
>>>
>>
>> 'Suggested' by you. Not out to control things, eh? Yeah. Right.
>>
>>
>>> Post using formats that the newsreader used by the vast majority of reader
>>> use. That would be jpegs, and OE, respectively.
>>>
>>
>> So those who have real newsreaders must scale back to cater to those who
>> can't be arsed to get a real newsreader? Not bloody likely.
>>
>>
>>> You have to remember that not everyone has the geek skills to do much more
>>> than that, or the aptitude or desire to learn any higher geek skills.
>>>
>>
>> Then bloody well killfilter the files you don't want to see. Don't tell
>> others that they can't post 'em.
>>
>>
>>> Post in resolutions that require no more than (my arbitrary limit) of 250
>>> KB. You have to remember that many people do not have broadband
>>> connections, and are not able to, either by limitations of money or
>>> distance
>>> from telephone switches for DSL or by the lack of cable systems in their
>>> neighborhoods that offer cable modems.
>>>
>>
>> Tough.
>>
>>
>>> I hope you reconsider, and can continue within the limitations that many
>>> on
>>> the group have expressed as deal killers for them.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> Have another drink, your post show your soused.

Actually not.

[Peter Hucker[_2_]]

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:59:07 +0200, JRW > wrote:

>hielan' laddie wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:56:48 -0400, Morgans wrote
>> (in article >):
>>
>>
>>> "Wayne Paul" > wrote
>>>
>>>
>>>> It is obvious that very few of you care whether I am here or not;
>>>>
>>> Not the case at all.
>>>
>>> All they want is for you (and or others) to post within limitations that
>>> allow non geek people to look at all of the pictures posted.
>>>
>>> I believe that would be summarized by:
>>>
>>> Not too many pictures per day. 40 has been suggested as a top number.
>>>
>>
>> 'Suggested' by you. Not out to control things, eh? Yeah. Right.
>>
>>
>>> Post using formats that the newsreader used by the vast majority of reader
>>> use. That would be jpegs, and OE, respectively.
>>>
>>
>> So those who have real newsreaders must scale back to cater to those who
>> can't be arsed to get a real newsreader? Not bloody likely.
>>
>>
>>> You have to remember that not everyone has the geek skills to do much more
>>> than that, or the aptitude or desire to learn any higher geek skills.
>>>
>>
>> Then bloody well killfilter the files you don't want to see. Don't tell
>> others that they can't post 'em.
>>
>>
>>> Post in resolutions that require no more than (my arbitrary limit) of 250
>>> KB. You have to remember that many people do not have broadband
>>> connections, and are not able to, either by limitations of money or distance
>>> from telephone switches for DSL or by the lack of cable systems in their
>>> neighborhoods that offer cable modems.
>>>
>>
>> Tough.
>>
>>
>>> I hope you reconsider, and can continue within the limitations that many on
>>> the group have expressed as deal killers for them.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>Have another drink, your post show your soused.

Probably just fed up of twits like yourself.
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Intercourse prevents divorce.

[Peter Hucker[_2_]]

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:59:03 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
> wrote:

>"Peter Hucker" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> You are the one moaning complaining and trying to control others.
>
>Oh, you mean like what J3's been doing; by posting in a format that very few
>on this group want or have any knowledge about? If you mean "control
>others" in that context, clearly, you are mistaken; as I have not forced
>anyone to aquire software for a specific file type. J3, and the proponents
>of .rar have, on the other hand, been the ones trying to control others.

J3 is not telling anyone to do anything. You do not have to download
his posts. However you lot seem to think you can change the way other
people post.
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Wisconsin had recently installed new scoreboard-style highway signs that keep commuters up-to-date on current traffic conditions.
At the time the message read, "Change speed to 50mph a head."
I thought, "There are two heads in this car at the moment so . . . "
and then looked over at my wife who, without waiting for me to say anything, simply said, "No."

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Peter Hucker" > wrote

> Probably just fed up of twits like yourself

Thanks! <g> That says it all.

I do enjoy your lines of wisdom in your signature, too!
--
Jim in NC

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Lee" > wrote

> Quit while your ahead, for your own sake.

Don't you have 'e on your computer? It would come in handy for a post
like yours.
--
Jim in NC

[Lee[_2_]]

Lee > wrote in
.95:

>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 02:35:15 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
>> (in article >):
>>
>> Both you and "hielan' laddie" forge your headers; coincidence?
>>

Not Forged, smot guy.

Is my current header more to your liking? Sucks not having
control of your software, isn't it windozer?

Quit while your ahead, for your own sake. This is beginning to
be fun... Pulling a single wing off a 99 percentile fly.

[Peter Hucker[_2_]]

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 14:38:47 -0400, "Morgans"
> wrote:

>
>"Lee" > wrote
>
>> Quit while your ahead, for your own sake.
>
>Don't you have 'e on your computer? It would come in handy for a post
>like yours.

E? I've only ever seen that in tablet form.
--
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Whats the fastest thing in Wales?
A virgin sheep.

[Lee[_2_]]

"Morgans" > wrote in
:

>
> "Lee" > wrote
>
>> Quit while your ahead, for your own sake.
>
> Don't you have 'e on your computer? It would come in handy for a
> post like yours.

Sorry, haven't a clue what that ( 'e ) is. If you are needing to
plonk (kill-file) me, I can't help you. I've *never* used MSOE.

Besides, I'll be going back to the lurk mode when everyone
(read Alan Einstein) quits bitching, telling lies and generally
confusing noobs about RARs, PARs, splits and arbitrary retention
times for various NNTP servers.

I won't even go into YEnc. That's already been shown to be a
fool's errand in this group. If everyone is happy chopping down
trees with a herring, I'll just continue quietly using my chain-saw.

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Lee" > wrote

> Sorry, haven't a clue what that ( 'e ) is. If you are needing to
> plonk (kill-file) me, I can't help you. I've *never* used MSOE.

Wooosh!

What was that? The sound of you missing it, completely. <g>

Here is a line you posted:

> Quit while your ahead, for your own sake.

If you had the keys ' and e on your computer, it could have read:

> Quit while you're ahead, for your own sake.

Man, it's no fun to explain a joke! ;-)

Sorry, I'll go back to my corner, now! <g>
--
Jim in NC

[Lee[_2_]]

"Morgans" > wrote in news:W%_pk.27399$1N1.6517
@newsfe07.iad:

>
> Man, it's no fun to explain a joke! ;-)
>
> Sorry, I'll go back to my corner, now! <g>

The apology is mine to make. I was having a
"99 percentile" moment.

[Peter Hucker[_2_]]

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:31:12 -0400, "Morgans"
> wrote:

>
>"Lee" > wrote
>
>> Sorry, haven't a clue what that ( 'e ) is. If you are needing to
>> plonk (kill-file) me, I can't help you. I've *never* used MSOE.
>
> Wooosh!
>
>What was that? The sound of you missing it, completely. <g>
>
>Here is a line you posted:
>
>> Quit while your ahead, for your own sake.
>
>If you had the keys ' and e on your computer, it could have read:
>
>> Quit while you're ahead, for your own sake.
>
>Man, it's no fun to explain a joke! ;-)
>
>Sorry, I'll go back to my corner, now! <g>

He does have an e, it's just semi-functional. He used the key in the
words while, ahead, and sake.
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