J3 Postings

[The Old Bloke[_9_]]

Hi,

J3 posts some amazing stuff, but I need some help to view it.

First of all, on my normal newsserver, about 32 out of every 35 files were
missing. So I went to a pay newsserver (Agent). And I changed to Agent's
newsreader.

I then chose to download 'Nasa Project Mercury Pics part01.rar" This was
composed of 35 postings which Agent combined and downloaded. That was about
15meg. Now my understanding of .rar is that one needs all the parts to view
the pictures. Sure enough, when I tried to open it, it asked for part 2.
So I downloaded part 2. Another ~15meg. As far as I can see there are 18
parts?

Is this correct? Then I see that there are Vol1, etc for the same series.
If there are 18 parts, do I have to download 18 X 15 = 270meg? Is this how
much I have to download to see the pictures? I asked this earlier and was
branded a winger. But I really need to know. I have a 12G download limit
per month, so I need to be aware of what is available versus what I can use
my download allowance on.

Is there someone that understands J3 postings who will attempt to answer my
questions?

I am comfortable with yEnc and .rar files.

Regards
Doug

[Richard[_7_]]

"The Old Bloke" > schreef in bericht
...
> Hi,
>
> J3 posts some amazing stuff, but I need some help to view it.
>
> First of all, on my normal newsserver, about 32 out of every 35 files were
> missing. So I went to a pay newsserver (Agent). And I changed to Agent's
> newsreader.
>
> I then chose to download 'Nasa Project Mercury Pics part01.rar" This was
> composed of 35 postings which Agent combined and downloaded. That was
> about 15meg. Now my understanding of .rar is that one needs all the parts
> to view the pictures. Sure enough, when I tried to open it, it asked for
> part 2. So I downloaded part 2. Another ~15meg. As far as I can see there
> are 18 parts?
>
> Is this correct? Then I see that there are Vol1, etc for the same series.
> If there are 18 parts, do I have to download 18 X 15 = 270meg? Is this
> how much I have to download to see the pictures? I asked this earlier and
> was branded a winger. But I really need to know. I have a 12G download
> limit per month, so I need to be aware of what is available versus what I
> can use my download allowance on.
>
> Is there someone that understands J3 postings who will attempt to answer
> my questions?
>
> I am comfortable with yEnc and .rar files.
>
> Regards
> Doug

J3's space shuttle posting amounted to almost 5 G of high quality pictures.
The pictures were really great, but it comes at a cost.
The flood itself washes out all other posts and for guys out there who don't
use a high speed internet connection it can be a real pain in the behind.
Although J3 posts beautiful pictures I made the choice to block his posts,
even though I do have a high speed connection.
I just don't consider it well mannered to hog up all that space as he has
done, just because he says it's too much work to pick some great pictures
and post them to this otherwise great newsgroup.
And though I exactly know how to download, decode and view postings like
J3's, I have no intention to tell how to do it here in the newsgroup.
Why, you may ask. Well a very simple reason, some people might see it as
some kind of encouragement to do the same thing as J3.
Sorry Doug, that's just the way I think about postings like J3, and judging
to the amount of negative comments on this NG I'm not the only one.

Regards,
Richard

[Peter Hucker[_2_]]

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:58:12 +0200, "Richard" >
wrote:

>
>"The Old Bloke" > schreef in bericht
...
>> Hi,
>>
>> J3 posts some amazing stuff, but I need some help to view it.
>>
>> First of all, on my normal newsserver, about 32 out of every 35 files were
>> missing. So I went to a pay newsserver (Agent). And I changed to Agent's
>> newsreader.
>>
>> I then chose to download 'Nasa Project Mercury Pics part01.rar" This was
>> composed of 35 postings which Agent combined and downloaded. That was
>> about 15meg. Now my understanding of .rar is that one needs all the parts
>> to view the pictures. Sure enough, when I tried to open it, it asked for
>> part 2. So I downloaded part 2. Another ~15meg. As far as I can see there
>> are 18 parts?
>>
>> Is this correct? Then I see that there are Vol1, etc for the same series.
>> If there are 18 parts, do I have to download 18 X 15 = 270meg? Is this
>> how much I have to download to see the pictures? I asked this earlier and
>> was branded a winger. But I really need to know. I have a 12G download
>> limit per month, so I need to be aware of what is available versus what I
>> can use my download allowance on.
>>
>> Is there someone that understands J3 postings who will attempt to answer
>> my questions?
>>
>> I am comfortable with yEnc and .rar files.
>>
>> Regards
>> Doug
>
>J3's space shuttle posting amounted to almost 5 G of high quality pictures.
>The pictures were really great, but it comes at a cost.
>The flood itself washes out all other posts

Any decent news server has capacity for all groups, not per groups.

>and for guys out there who don't
>use a high speed internet connection it can be a real pain in the behind.

You can skip them.

>Although J3 posts beautiful pictures I made the choice to block his posts,
>even though I do have a high speed connection.
>I just don't consider it well mannered to hog up all that space as he has
>done, just because he says it's too much work to pick some great pictures
>and post them to this otherwise great newsgroup.
>And though I exactly know how to download, decode and view postings like
>J3's, I have no intention to tell how to do it here in the newsgroup.
>Why, you may ask. Well a very simple reason, some people might see it as
>some kind of encouragement to do the same thing as J3.
>Sorry Doug, that's just the way I think about postings like J3, and judging
>to the amount of negative comments on this NG I'm not the only one.

I would have preferred seperate jpegs though, that way you can see if
they are any good before getting the next one.
--
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Q: What's the difference between an Irish funeral and an Irish wedding?
A: One less drunk.

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Peter Hucker" > wrote

> I would have preferred seperate jpegs though, that way you can see if
> they are any good before getting the next one.

I liked someone's idea of posting them to a hosting site, and advertising
here that they are available, when it comes to big file sizes and large
quantities.
--
Jim in NC

[Peter Hucker[_2_]]

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 14:32:31 -0400, "Morgans"
> wrote:

>
>"Peter Hucker" > wrote
>
>> I would have preferred seperate jpegs though, that way you can see if
>> they are any good before getting the next one.
>
>I liked someone's idea of posting them to a hosting site, and advertising
>here that they are available, when it comes to big file sizes and large
>quantities.

Clicking on 500 links may take some time.
--
http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com

Bikini e pareo, camicia di pizzo e shorts, top e gonna di crochet!

[The Old Bloke[_9_]]

"Richard" > wrote in message
bel.net...
>
> "The Old Bloke" > schreef in bericht
> ...
>> Hi,
>>
>> J3 posts some amazing stuff, but I need some help to view it.
>>
>> First of all, on my normal newsserver, about 32 out of every 35 files
>> were missing. So I went to a pay newsserver (Agent). And I changed to
>> Agent's newsreader.
>>
>> I then chose to download 'Nasa Project Mercury Pics part01.rar" This was
>> composed of 35 postings which Agent combined and downloaded. That was
>> about 15meg. Now my understanding of .rar is that one needs all the
>> parts to view the pictures. Sure enough, when I tried to open it, it
>> asked for part 2. So I downloaded part 2. Another ~15meg. As far as I
>> can see there are 18 parts?
>>
>> Is this correct? Then I see that there are Vol1, etc for the same
>> series. If there are 18 parts, do I have to download 18 X 15 = 270meg?
>> Is this how much I have to download to see the pictures? I asked this
>> earlier and was branded a winger. But I really need to know. I have a
>> 12G download limit per month, so I need to be aware of what is available
>> versus what I can use my download allowance on.
>>
>> Is there someone that understands J3 postings who will attempt to answer
>> my questions?
>>
>> I am comfortable with yEnc and .rar files.
>>
>> Regards
>> Doug
>
> J3's space shuttle posting amounted to almost 5 G of high quality
> pictures.
> The pictures were really great, but it comes at a cost.
> The flood itself washes out all other posts and for guys out there who
> don't use a high speed internet connection it can be a real pain in the
> behind.
> Although J3 posts beautiful pictures I made the choice to block his posts,
> even though I do have a high speed connection.
> I just don't consider it well mannered to hog up all that space as he has
> done, just because he says it's too much work to pick some great pictures
> and post them to this otherwise great newsgroup.
> And though I exactly know how to download, decode and view postings like
> J3's, I have no intention to tell how to do it here in the newsgroup.
> Why, you may ask. Well a very simple reason, some people might see it as
> some kind of encouragement to do the same thing as J3.
> Sorry Doug, that's just the way I think about postings like J3, and
> judging to the amount of negative comments on this NG I'm not the only
> one.
>
Hi Richard,

I don't mind trying to learn how to download these multipart postings, but I
need to understand them.. I not passing judgment on J3. It seems that I
have to download, in the case I raised, 270Meg minimum, to see what has been
posted. And 5G download to see them all. Will you pls answer one question?

Is there any way to preview these postings without a full download?

If the answer is no, then with my already stretched 12G per month limit, I
will simply have to avoid these images, which I am sure I would otherwise
enjoy. From what I know, ISPs are far more expensive where I live in Aust.

Thanks for the help.

Regards
Doug
Brisbane

[Lee[_2_]]

"The Old Bloke" > wrote in
:

(snip)

> I don't mind trying to learn how to download these multipart postings,
> but I need to understand them.. I not passing judgment on J3. It
> seems that I have to download, in the case I raised, 270Meg minimum,
> to see what has been posted. And 5G download to see them all. Will
> you pls answer one question?
>
> Is there any way to preview these postings without a full download?
>
> If the answer is no, then with my already stretched 12G per month
> limit, I will simply have to avoid these images, which I am sure I
> would otherwise enjoy. From what I know, ISPs are far more expensive
> where I live in Aust.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Regards
> Doug
> Brisbane
>

Doug, you're kinda screwed. But if you'll tell me what really melts
your butter I'll try to get some to you (e.g. spacewalks, launches, cockpit
views, group shots, diagrams, recoveries, etc.)

I'll post a few index/thumbs in the next few days. I'll have to give it a
few days 'cause the knuckleheads will be screaming about it, regardless how
much I scrunch them down. I'll of course pare them down in number. When
you shrink 'em down you can't tell if it's Columbia or Christmas taking
off. As I've said before, the Mercury stuff is *my* porn, but I have all
of J3's shots. When does your monthly limit refresh/restart?

And I'm such a "get-along" kinda guy, I won't even Y-Encode 'em. ;-)

[The Old Bloke[_9_]]

"Lee" > wrote in message
. 92...
> "The Old Bloke" > wrote in
> :
>
> (snip)
>
>> I don't mind trying to learn how to download these multipart postings,
>> but I need to understand them.. I not passing judgment on J3. It
>> seems that I have to download, in the case I raised, 270Meg minimum,
>> to see what has been posted. And 5G download to see them all. Will
>> you pls answer one question?
>>
>> Is there any way to preview these postings without a full download?
>>
>> If the answer is no, then with my already stretched 12G per month
>> limit, I will simply have to avoid these images, which I am sure I
>> would otherwise enjoy. From what I know, ISPs are far more expensive
>> where I live in Aust.
>>
>> Thanks for the help.
>>
>> Regards
>> Doug
>> Brisbane
>>
>
> Doug, you're kinda screwed. But if you'll tell me what really melts
> your butter I'll try to get some to you (e.g. spacewalks, launches,
> cockpit
> views, group shots, diagrams, recoveries, etc.)
>
> I'll post a few index/thumbs in the next few days. I'll have to give it a
> few days 'cause the knuckleheads will be screaming about it, regardless
> how
> much I scrunch them down. I'll of course pare them down in number. When
> you shrink 'em down you can't tell if it's Columbia or Christmas taking
> off. As I've said before, the Mercury stuff is *my* porn, but I have all
> of J3's shots. When does your monthly limit refresh/restart?
>
> And I'm such a "get-along" kinda guy, I won't even Y-Encode 'em. ;-)

That's a kind post Lee! Mercury is also my sweet spot. But I am also
extremely interested in hires of the space station. In fact I dreamed about
it last night. Index/thumbs would be wonderful and fully appreciated.

My refresh has just happened (15th of each month) but because of my other
needs and other users on this limit, I can probably only afford a max of 1G
per month, if that.

I know many people are upset with J3, but in my case all I am interested in
is how I can best get access to some of his great postings. When he used to
post individual jpgs in two parts, the images often took my breath away

Many thanks
Doug

[Lee[_2_]]

"The Old Bloke" > wrote in
:

(snip)

> That's a kind post Lee! Mercury is also my sweet spot. But I am also
> extremely interested in hires of the space station. In fact I dreamed
> about it last night. Index/thumbs would be wonderful and fully
> appreciated.
>
> My refresh has just happened (15th of each month) but because of my
> other needs and other users on this limit, I can probably only afford
> a max of 1G per month, if that.
>
> I know many people are upset with J3, but in my case all I am
> interested in is how I can best get access to some of his great
> postings. When he used to post individual jpgs in two parts, the
> images often took my breath away
>
> Many thanks
> Doug


I'm on it. Just reco-member that I should give it a few days
for some of the caterwauling to die down, since these will
actually be reposts There are a couple of Mercury pics that
amazed/fooled the crap out of me... and I know quite a bit
about Mercury/Gemini.

I'll try to make it as unobtrusive as possible. Might just make
them to the attention of you only. I like all y'all Aussies.

Oh, by the way... not too many ISS shots in the Shuttle "flood."
Once he goes through the earlier projects, there may be some
good ISS stuff. We both should watch for any links that appear
in this group.

G'Day Mate.

[Casey Tompkins]

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:58:12 +0200, "Richard" >
wrote:

>J3's space shuttle posting amounted to almost 5 G of high quality pictures.
>The pictures were really great, but it comes at a cost.
>The flood itself washes out all other posts and for guys out there who don't
>use a high speed internet connection it can be a real pain in the behind.

Um, you're confusing multi-part posts with multiple posts. A
relatively large single post is frequently (depending on the posting
software and NSP) broken up into smaller parts, but it's still one
post. For example, if someone posted a .rar file with 50 photos, but
the post was segmented by the posting software into 10 parts, it's
still one post, and one header, to the NSP. If on the other hand the
poster uploaded all 50 shots separately, that would be 50 posts and 50
headers.

See the difference?

Since the NSPs track by posts, and not parts, unless someone puts up
an 800-part .rar file it won't hurt retention.

Again: learn to love the killfile. :)

[Oviedo]

And downloading and decoding the s-pile j3 posted didn't?
>
> Clicking on 500 links may take some time.
> --

[Casey Tompkins]

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 07:12:36 GMT, "The Old Bloke"
> wrote:

>I don't mind trying to learn how to download these multipart postings, but I
>need to understand them.. I not passing judgment on J3. It seems that I
>have to download, in the case I raised, 270Meg minimum, to see what has been
>posted. And 5G download to see them all. Will you pls answer one question?
>
>Is there any way to preview these postings without a full download?

It would appear that some folks are confused about WinRar.

You don't need to download the entire series of parts, just the first
one. If I recall your earlier post ... ah, there it is: " Sure enough,
when I tried to open it, it asked for part 2. "

I'm thinking you tried to extract the files, not open the .rar. Just
double-click on the part01.rar file to open it. You should be able to
view what's in there quite nicely.

Anyone using Easynews can log into their web interface -which includes
an auto-unrar utility- and see the photos there.

[The Old Bloke[_9_]]

"Casey Tompkins" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 07:12:36 GMT, "The Old Bloke"
> > wrote:
>
>>I don't mind trying to learn how to download these multipart postings, but
>>I
>>need to understand them.. I not passing judgment on J3. It seems that I
>>have to download, in the case I raised, 270Meg minimum, to see what has
>>been
>>posted. And 5G download to see them all. Will you pls answer one
>>question?
>>
>>Is there any way to preview these postings without a full download?
>
> It would appear that some folks are confused about WinRar.
>
> You don't need to download the entire series of parts, just the first
> one. If I recall your earlier post ... ah, there it is: " Sure enough,
> when I tried to open it, it asked for part 2. "
>
> I'm thinking you tried to extract the files, not open the .rar. Just
> double-click on the part01.rar file to open it. You should be able to
> view what's in there quite nicely.
>
This is probably where I am going wrong. I have the one I downloaded and I
just tried double clicking it and it again prompts me for part2

Thanks for the lead. I wll look into it a bit more.

Thanks for you help. It's appreciated.
Regards
Doug
> Anyone using Easynews can log into their web interface -which includes
> an auto-unrar utility- and see the photos there.
>

[Peter Hucker[_2_]]

It downloaded while I was looking at other posts. To decode the whole
bloody lot took about 6 clicks.


On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:37:13 -0400, "Oviedo" >
wrote:

>And downloading and decoding the s-pile j3 posted didn't?
>>
>> Clicking on 500 links may take some time.
>> --
>
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[hielan' laddie]

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:37:13 -0400, Oviedo wrote
(in article >):

> And downloading and decoding the s-pile j3 posted didn't?

On my system it downloaded in the background while I was doing something
else. But then I use a real newsreader which has filtering and automation
systems. I can, and do, tell my newsreader what I want downloaded and it does
it for me.

Once the .rars and .pars were downloaded, a single double-click launched
MacPAR Delux and it decoded the .rars, created a new folder, and dropped the
..jpgs in there, all without my having to do thing one. And, oh, yeah, it
dropped the .rars and .pars into the Trash for me. It'd have deleted them
automatically for me, except that I disabled that feature. I always want to
delete stuff myself, just in case.

But by all means continue to live in your self-imposed ghetto. Just don't
expect others to live there.

>>
>> Clicking on 500 links may take some time.
>> --
>
>

[hielan' laddie]

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:35:54 -0400, Peter Hucker wrote
(in article >):

> It downloaded while I was looking at other posts. To decode the whole
> bloody lot took about 6 clicks.

If that many.

>
>
> On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:37:13 -0400, "Oviedo" >
> wrote:
>
>> And downloading and decoding the s-pile j3 posted didn't?
>>>
>>> Clicking on 500 links may take some time.
>>> --
>>
>

[hielan' laddie]

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:18:56 -0400, Casey Tompkins wrote
(in article >):

> On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:58:12 +0200, "Richard" >
> wrote:
>
>> J3's space shuttle posting amounted to almost 5 G of high quality pictures.
>> The pictures were really great, but it comes at a cost.
>> The flood itself washes out all other posts and for guys out there who
>> don't
>> use a high speed internet connection it can be a real pain in the behind.
>
> Um, you're confusing multi-part posts with multiple posts. A
> relatively large single post is frequently (depending on the posting
> software and NSP) broken up into smaller parts, but it's still one
> post. For example, if someone posted a .rar file with 50 photos, but
> the post was segmented by the posting software into 10 parts, it's
> still one post, and one header, to the NSP. If on the other hand the
> poster uploaded all 50 shots separately, that would be 50 posts and 50
> headers.

I, for one, have said this before. Those who love MSOE and expect all other
to live with its limitations don't care about the facts.

>
> See the difference?

No, they don't.

>
> Since the NSPs track by posts, and not parts, unless someone puts up
> an 800-part .rar file it won't hurt retention.
>
> Again: learn to love the killfile. :)
>

They'd rather whinge.