Whoa!

[Nyal Williams[_2_]]

I just opened r.a.s. and immediately got a warning notice that this is a
"dangerous" site suspected of "Phishing," that it "shows signs of
involvement in 'phishing,' a scam in which a criminal's web site
masquerades as a legitimate commercial sit to obtain your credit cardnumbr
or other personal information for nefarious purposes."

The sign popped up again when I clicked to post a message.

[John Smith]

Nyal Williams wrote:

> I just opened r.a.s. and immediately got a warning notice that this is a
> "dangerous" site suspected of "Phishing," that it "shows signs of

Actually, this group is Usenet and not a "site". Obviously you're
accessing Usenet through some "site" which generates that message. The
rest of us doesn't see that message.

[Uncle Fuzzy]

On Aug 20, 2:24*pm, Nyal Williams > wrote:
> I just opened r.a.s. and immediately got a warning notice that this is a
> "dangerous" site suspected of "Phishing," that it "shows signs of
> involvement in 'phishing,' a scam in which a criminal's web site
> masquerades as a legitimate commercial sit to obtain your credit cardnumbr
> or other personal information for nefarious purposes."
>
> The sign popped up again when I clicked to post a message.

Utter nonsense.
I am very interested in purchasing your glider. Please to accept my
cashiers check for an amount in excess of your asking price, and
shipping to me your glider very soonest.

[Martin Gregorie[_4_]]

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:24:42 +0000, Nyal Williams wrote:

> I just opened r.a.s. and immediately got a warning notice that this is a
> "dangerous" site suspected of "Phishing," that it "shows signs of
> involvement in 'phishing,' a scam in which a criminal's web site
> masquerades as a legitimate commercial sit to obtain your credit
> cardnumbr or other personal information for nefarious purposes."
>
It seems that the NY attorney general thought it would be a good idea to
ban the binaries newsgroups used by pedos and leaned on Comcasts to do so.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/12/att_aol_newsgroup_shutdown/

covers the story, or go to www.theregister.co.uk put 'USENET' in their
search box for other stories on the topic

Comcast originally said they'd drop Usenet entirely, though it wasn't
clear if they meant whether they intended to shut down their NNTP servers
or block all use of the NNTP protocol on their network.

Judging by what you've found they took some flak for the threatened total
shutdown and have backed off, instead settling for merely using warning
messages such as the one you quote.


--
martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

[Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe]

"John Smith" > wrote in message
. ..
> Nyal Williams wrote:
>
>> I just opened r.a.s. and immediately got a warning notice that this is a
>> "dangerous" site suspected of "Phishing," that it "shows signs of
>
> Actually, this group is Usenet and not a "site". Obviously you're
> accessing Usenet through some "site" which generates that message. The
> rest of us doesn't see that message.

He is getting here via Glider Pilot Network www.gliderpilot.net

--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

[[email protected]]

> Actually, this group is Usenet and not a "site".

RAS is available through Google Groups at:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.soaring/topics

HTH.

[John Smith]

wrote:

>> Actually, this group is Usenet and not a "site".
>
> RAS is available through Google Groups at:

1. Sure. But that doesn't change the fact that RAS is not "a site".

2. The OP accesses RAS not through google groups but through
gliderpilot.net, anyway. This doesn't change the fact that RAS is not "a
site", either.

[Nyal Williams[_2_]]

I get r.a.s. through gliderpilot.net. My service provider is Comcast. The
message that it is a phishing site comes up from my spyware, which is
PC-cillin.

At 07:46 21 August 2008, John Smith wrote:
wrote:
>
>>> Actually, this group is Usenet and not a "site".
>>
>> RAS is available through Google Groups at:
>
>1. Sure. But that doesn't change the fact that RAS is not "a site".
>
>2. The OP accesses RAS not through google groups but through
>gliderpilot.net, anyway. This doesn't change the fact that RAS is not
"a
>site", either.
>

[Nyal Williams[_2_]]

I get r.a.s. through gliderpilot.net. My service provider is Comcast. The
message that it is a phishing site comes up from my spyware, which is
PC-cillin.

At 07:46 21 August 2008, John Smith wrote:
wrote:
>
>>> Actually, this group is Usenet and not a "site".
>>
>> RAS is available through Google Groups at:
>
>1. Sure. But that doesn't change the fact that RAS is not "a site".
>
>2. The OP accesses RAS not through google groups but through
>gliderpilot.net, anyway. This doesn't change the fact that RAS is not
"a
>site", either.
>

[[email protected]]

> But that doesn't change the fact that RAS is not "a site".

Is http://groups.google.com 'a site'?

[Darryl Ramm]

On Aug 21, 4:10*pm, wrote:
> > But that doesn't change the fact that RAS is not "a site".
>
> Ishttp://groups.google.com'a site'?

What's your point? r.a.s is not a site. No more than the Associated
Press (a wire sevice) is a newspaper. Asking the question multiple
times does not change the answer.

http://groups.google.com and http://www.gliderpilot.net are is by
definition web sites and had the original poster said the site he was
actually getting a web based access to a USENET newsgroup from then
the statement would make sense. USENET is the distributed backbone
network that carries all these messages. r.a.s. is set up and in this
case un-moderated jsut like many USENET groups. Message tranmission to
other sites, kill messages and other control across the distributed
network use USENET mechanisms. Google or glider pilot network have no
more control over the content of messages flowing outside their
servers than any other news site. USENET was kind of built from the
beginning to allow permissive posting in often unmoderated groups and
modern newsreaders are set up with kill files and filters to handle
this, all of which is why it's really not that effective to complain
to Google or others about message content, unless it is persistent
SPAM originating from their site (vs. one of the many many thousands
of other USENET servers). Unfortunately a lot *does* originate at
Google.

Real men and women will use a real news reader such as trn,
Thunderbird or Outlook Express (both the later do email and USENET
news) because of the extra controls they provide. Most ISPs wil
provide an nntp (Network News Transfer Protocol) feed to connect
USENET servers to a news reader. If you want to try out the real thing
instead of Google Groups etc. look at your ISP's setup info for nntp
or newsreaders. (And yes, I'm using Google groups, so obviously not a
real man (or woman)).


Darryl

[Lew Hartswick]

Nyal Williams wrote:
> I get r.a.s. through gliderpilot.net. My service provider is Comcast. The
> message that it is a phishing site comes up from my spyware, which is
> PC-cillin.

> At 07:46 21 August 2008, John Smith wrote:
wrote:
>>>>Actually, this group is Usenet and not a "site".
>>>RAS is available through Google Groups at:
>>1. Sure. But that doesn't change the fact that RAS is not "a site".
>>2. The OP accesses RAS not through google groups but through
>>gliderpilot.net, anyway. This doesn't change the fact that RAS is not
> "a site", either.

I would suggest you get a different "spyware".
...lew...

[Nyal Williams[_2_]]

PC-cillin was recommended by Consumer Reports as the best spyware
available two years ago when I got it. The problem lasted just one
afternoon for me, the original poster, and that was three days ago.
Let's let this thread die.

At 00:42 22 August 2008, Lew Hartswick wrote:
>Nyal Williams wrote:
>> I get r.a.s. through gliderpilot.net. My service provider is Comcast.

>The
>> message that it is a phishing site comes up from my spyware, which is
>> PC-cillin.
>
>> At 07:46 21 August 2008, John Smith wrote:
wrote:
>>>>>Actually, this group is Usenet and not a "site".
>>>>RAS is available through Google Groups at:
>>>1. Sure. But that doesn't change the fact that RAS is not "a site".
>>>2. The OP accesses RAS not through google groups but through
>>>gliderpilot.net, anyway. This doesn't change the fact that RAS is not
>> "a site", either.
>
>I would suggest you get a different "spyware".
> ...lew...
>