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Bill Brown
September 3rd 08, 01:55 AM
Enjoy!

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William M. (Bill) Brown
seneo-pro

Waldo.Pepper[_2_]
September 3rd 08, 04:28 AM
Yokosuka D4Y Suisei / Judy

Waldo.

On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 19:55:49 -0500, "Bill Brown" >
wrote:

>Enjoy!

Frogdog
September 3rd 08, 09:45 AM
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:28:29 -0700, Waldo.Pepper
> wrote:

>Yokosuka D4Y Suisei / Judy
>
>Waldo.

Actually, it's an Aichi M6A1 Seiran, one of the so called "Panama
Canal Bombers" designed to be carried on the large I-400 class
submarines. The aircraft at Udvar-Hazy is the only remaining example.
They were just finishing up restoration of this aircraft a few years
back when I took the tour of the Paul E. Garber facility.
Unfortunately, that tour is no longer given, but a good amount of
things seen there have since gone on display at Udvar-Hazy

http://collections.nasm.si.edu/code/emuseum.asp?profile=objects&newstyle=single&quicksearch=A19630308000

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Orval Fairbairn[_2_]
September 3rd 08, 04:56 PM
In article >,
Frogdog > wrote:

> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:28:29 -0700, Waldo.Pepper
> > wrote:
>
> >Yokosuka D4Y Suisei / Judy
> >
> >Waldo.
>
> Actually, it's an Aichi M6A1 Seiran, one of the so called "Panama
> Canal Bombers" designed to be carried on the large I-400 class
> submarines. The aircraft at Udvar-Hazy is the only remaining example.
> They were just finishing up restoration of this aircraft a few years
> back when I took the tour of the Paul E. Garber facility.
> Unfortunately, that tour is no longer given, but a good amount of
> things seen there have since gone on display at Udvar-Hazy
>
> http://collections.nasm.si.edu/code/emuseum.asp?profile=objects&newstyle=singl
> e&quicksearch=A19630308000
>
> Frogdog has left the building.

I saw this one in the Garber facility, undergoing restoration. I was
appalled at the standards of original workmanship. It appears that the
Aichi workers either did not have, or did not know how to operate
pneumatic rivet guns. The metal was all beaten and warped and
poorly-constructed (far worse then on the Russian Stormovik).

Resoration was simply cleaning and repairing.

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Bill Brown
September 3rd 08, 07:28 PM
"Orval Fairbairn" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Frogdog > wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:28:29 -0700, Waldo.Pepper
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Yokosuka D4Y Suisei / Judy
>> >
>> >Waldo.
>>
>> Actually, it's an Aichi M6A1 Seiran, one of the so called "Panama
>> Canal Bombers" designed to be carried on the large I-400 class
>> submarines. The aircraft at Udvar-Hazy is the only remaining example.
>> They were just finishing up restoration of this aircraft a few years
>> back when I took the tour of the Paul E. Garber facility.
>> Unfortunately, that tour is no longer given, but a good amount of
>> things seen there have since gone on display at Udvar-Hazy
>>
>> http://collections.nasm.si.edu/code/emuseum.asp?profile=objects&newstyle=singl
>> e&quicksearch=A19630308000
>>
>> Frogdog has left the building.
>
> I saw this one in the Garber facility, undergoing restoration. I was
> appalled at the standards of original workmanship. It appears that the
> Aichi workers either did not have, or did not know how to operate
> pneumatic rivet guns. The metal was all beaten and warped and
> poorly-constructed (far worse then on the Russian Stormovik).
>
> Resoration was simply cleaning and repairing.
>
> --
> Remove _'s from email address to talk to me.

Thanks for your input, Mr. Pepper, Mr. Frogdog & Mr. Fairbain. I also
visited the Garber facility a few times and observed the work being done on
this aircraft. The "Enola Gay" was there being restored too. It sounds
like the restoration work will 'eventually' be transferred out to Udvar-Hazy
and it will be more accessible on the tour of that facility..
--
William M. (Bill) Brown
seneo-pro

Bill Brown
September 3rd 08, 07:29 PM
"Orval Fairbairn" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Frogdog > wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:28:29 -0700, Waldo.Pepper
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Yokosuka D4Y Suisei / Judy
>> >
>> >Waldo.
>>
>> Actually, it's an Aichi M6A1 Seiran, one of the so called "Panama
>> Canal Bombers" designed to be carried on the large I-400 class
>> submarines. The aircraft at Udvar-Hazy is the only remaining example.
>> They were just finishing up restoration of this aircraft a few years
>> back when I took the tour of the Paul E. Garber facility.
>> Unfortunately, that tour is no longer given, but a good amount of
>> things seen there have since gone on display at Udvar-Hazy
>>
>> http://collections.nasm.si.edu/code/emuseum.asp?profile=objects&newstyle=singl
>> e&quicksearch=A19630308000
>>
>> Frogdog has left the building.
>
> I saw this one in the Garber facility, undergoing restoration. I was
> appalled at the standards of original workmanship. It appears that the
> Aichi workers either did not have, or did not know how to operate
> pneumatic rivet guns. The metal was all beaten and warped and
> poorly-constructed (far worse then on the Russian Stormovik).
>
> Resoration was simply cleaning and repairing.
>
> --
> Remove _'s from email address to talk to me.

Thanks for your input, Mr. Pepper, Mr. Frogdog & Mr. Fairbain. I also
visited the Garber facility a few times and observed the work being done on
this aircraft. The "Enola Gay" was there being restored too. It sounds
like the restoration work will 'eventually' be transferred out to Udvar-Hazy
and it will be more accessible on the tour of that facility..
--
William M. (Bill) Brown
seneo-pro

Waldo.Pepper[_2_]
September 8th 08, 05:56 PM
Very very sorry. You are quite right. My only escuse is that I
scribble my post while packing for my modest little trip down the
coast.

Waldo.

On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:56:17 -0400, Orval Fairbairn
> wrote:

>In article >,
> Frogdog > wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:28:29 -0700, Waldo.Pepper
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Yokosuka D4Y Suisei / Judy
>> >
>> >Waldo.
>>
>> Actually, it's an Aichi M6A1 Seiran, one of the so called "Panama
>> Canal Bombers" designed to be carried on the large I-400 class
>> submarines. The aircraft at Udvar-Hazy is the only remaining example.
>> They were just finishing up restoration of this aircraft a few years
>> back when I took the tour of the Paul E. Garber facility.
>> Unfortunately, that tour is no longer given, but a good amount of
>> things seen there have since gone on display at Udvar-Hazy
>>
>> http://collections.nasm.si.edu/code/emuseum.asp?profile=objects&newstyle=singl
>> e&quicksearch=A19630308000
>>
>> Frogdog has left the building.
>
>I saw this one in the Garber facility, undergoing restoration. I was
>appalled at the standards of original workmanship. It appears that the
>Aichi workers either did not have, or did not know how to operate
>pneumatic rivet guns. The metal was all beaten and warped and
>poorly-constructed (far worse then on the Russian Stormovik).
>
>Resoration was simply cleaning and repairing.

Waldo.Pepper[_2_]
September 8th 08, 07:38 PM
Did I pooch anything else up?

Waldo.

On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 09:56:47 -0700, Waldo.Pepper
> wrote:

>Very very sorry. You are quite right. My only escuse is that I
>scribble my post while packing for my modest little trip down the
>coast.
>
>Waldo.
>
>On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:56:17 -0400, Orval Fairbairn
> wrote:
>
>>In article >,
>> Frogdog > wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:28:29 -0700, Waldo.Pepper
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >Yokosuka D4Y Suisei / Judy
>>> >
>>> >Waldo.
>>>
>>> Actually, it's an Aichi M6A1 Seiran, one of the so called "Panama
>>> Canal Bombers" designed to be carried on the large I-400 class
>>> submarines. The aircraft at Udvar-Hazy is the only remaining example.
>>> They were just finishing up restoration of this aircraft a few years
>>> back when I took the tour of the Paul E. Garber facility.
>>> Unfortunately, that tour is no longer given, but a good amount of
>>> things seen there have since gone on display at Udvar-Hazy
>>>
>>> http://collections.nasm.si.edu/code/emuseum.asp?profile=objects&newstyle=singl
>>> e&quicksearch=A19630308000
>>>
>>> Frogdog has left the building.
>>
>>I saw this one in the Garber facility, undergoing restoration. I was
>>appalled at the standards of original workmanship. It appears that the
>>Aichi workers either did not have, or did not know how to operate
>>pneumatic rivet guns. The metal was all beaten and warped and
>>poorly-constructed (far worse then on the Russian Stormovik).
>>
>>Resoration was simply cleaning and repairing.

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