donner blitzen

[flybywire]

[Michael Huber[_2_]]

flybywire wrote:

For those of you who can't read German: It's an ad for an exhibition of war
booty, to take place in February of 1917 at the Zoo (of whichever city this
poster appeared in, I presume).

And, by the way: The German word for lightning is Blitz, not "Blitzen". Why
do so many Englisch speakers insist on attaching the "en"? "Blitz" as used
in this context is a noun, not a verb.

[Netko]

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 10:57:24 +0100, Michael Huber wrote
(in message >):

> And, by the way: The German word for lightning is Blitz, not "Blitzen". Why
> do so many Englisch speakers insist on attaching the "en"? "Blitz" as used
> in this context is a noun, not a verb.

It's probably the fault of Santa Claus.

Two of his reindeer are named Donner and Blitzen.

--

[®i©ardo]

Netko wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 10:57:24 +0100, Michael Huber wrote
> (in message >):
>
>> And, by the way: The German word for lightning is Blitz, not "Blitzen". Why
>> do so many Englisch speakers insist on attaching the "en"? "Blitz" as used
>> in this context is a noun, not a verb.
>
> It's probably the fault of Santa Claus.
>
> Two of his reindeer are named Donner and Blitzen.
>

....or the war comics where it is compulsory for the German troops to say
"Ach, Donner und Blitzen" whenever they are attacked by the "Tommies".

--
Moving things in still pictures!

[Martin Helms]

"®i©ardo" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
> Netko wrote:
>> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 10:57:24 +0100, Michael Huber wrote
>> (in message >):
>>
>>> And, by the way: The German word for lightning is Blitz, not "Blitzen".
>>> Why
>>> do so many Englisch speakers insist on attaching the "en"? "Blitz" as
>>> used
>>> in this context is a noun, not a verb.
>>
>> It's probably the fault of Santa Claus.
>>
>> Two of his reindeer are named Donner and Blitzen.
>>
>
> ...or the war comics where it is compulsory for the German troops to say
> "Ach, Donner und Blitzen" whenever they are attacked by the "Tommies".

I always thought Flash/Thunder was the US watchword during D-Day...



PS: As long as the "ach" is pronounced the Scottish way and does not
resemble "ack", that's fine by me ;)

[Jim Breckenridge]

Netko wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 10:57:24 +0100, Michael Huber wrote
> (in message >):
>
>> And, by the way: The German word for lightning is Blitz, not "Blitzen". Why
>> do so many Englisch speakers insist on attaching the "en"? "Blitz" as used
>> in this context is a noun, not a verb.
>
> It's probably the fault of Santa Claus.
>
> Two of his reindeer are named Donner and Blitzen.
>
Actually if you do the research you'll find it is donder not donner in
the poem.

[Richard[_7_]]

"Jim Breckenridge" > schreef in bericht
news:atTvk.145832$nD.100899@pd7urf1no...
> Netko wrote:
>> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 10:57:24 +0100, Michael Huber wrote
>> (in message >):
>>
>>> And, by the way: The German word for lightning is Blitz, not "Blitzen".
>>> Why
>>> do so many Englisch speakers insist on attaching the "en"? "Blitz" as
>>> used
>>> in this context is a noun, not a verb.
>>
>> It's probably the fault of Santa Claus.
>>
>> Two of his reindeer are named Donner and Blitzen.
>>
> Actually if you do the research you'll find it is donder not donner in the
> poem.

"Donder" is the Dutch word for thunder, "Donner" the German word.
And the reindeer the Americans know today as Santa's reindeer, aren't they
also creation of the vivid imagination of someone at Coca-Cola's marketing
department?
Just like the Santa image that is so popular since the '30s?

[Netko]

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:50:30 +0100, Jim Breckenridge wrote
(in message <atTvk.145832$nD.100899@pd7urf1no>):

>> Two of his reindeer are named Donner and Blitzen.
>>
> Actually if you do the research you'll find it is donder not donner in
> the poem.

Having now done the research (or at least a Google search which is
surely what passes for research in this day and age), I find that
the names have in fact varied, from Dunder and Bliksem through
Donder and Blitzen to Donner and Blitzen

I also discovered that there is another reindeer who is not
mentioned in the poem but appears in a familiar song - Olive, the
other reindeer.

On-topic, because the sleigh is an animal-powered flying machine.

--

[Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe]

"Richard" > wrote in message
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>
> "Jim Breckenridge" > schreef in bericht
> news:atTvk.145832$nD.100899@pd7urf1no...
<...>>>
>> Actually if you do the research you'll find it is donder not donner in
>> the poem.
>
> "Donder" is the Dutch word for thunder, "Donner" the German word.
> And the reindeer the Americans know today as Santa's reindeer, aren't
> they also creation of the vivid imagination of someone at Coca-Cola's
> marketing department?

Clement Clarke Moore's famous poem, which he named "A Visit From St.
Nicholas," was published for the first time on December 23, 1823 by a New
York newspaper, the Sentinel

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[Guybrush Threepwood[_2_]]

"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk @See My Sig.com> schrieb im
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> "Richard" > wrote in message


....
>>
>> "Donder" is the Dutch word for thunder, "Donner" the German word.
>> And the reindeer the Americans know today as Santa's reindeer, aren't
>> they also creation of the vivid imagination of someone at Coca-Cola's
>> marketing department?
>
.....

>

Snip...

right and some history behind for those who are interested....

both words are coming from the german god Donar or Thor who was supposed to
make the lightnings with his hammer. That is where Thursday (was Thor'sday)
and in german Donnerstag is coming from.

Anyway, just for info...

--
Gruß Guybrush

[Richard[_7_]]

>
> Clement Clarke Moore's famous poem, which he named "A Visit From St.
> Nicholas," was published for the first time on December 23, 1823 by a New
> York newspaper, the Sentinel
>
> --

Correct, and seeing he himself and his wife are most probable of Dutch
decent, through the New York Livingston family the words most probably
originate in the Dutch language, not the German.

[Herman]

"Richard" > schreef in bericht
bel.net...
>
>>
>> Clement Clarke Moore's famous poem, which he named "A Visit From St.
>> Nicholas," was published for the first time on December 23, 1823 by a New
>> York newspaper, the Sentinel
>>
>> --
>
> Correct, and seeing he himself and his wife are most probable of Dutch
> decent, through the New York Livingston family the words most probably
> originate in the Dutch language, not the German.
>

In the Dutch language that would be Donder en Bliksem.
German sounds closer to the mark to me.

Regards,
Herman