B-747 landing at Sint Maarten

[Herman]

The first picture is from Airliners.Net but I want to share it with the NG.

KLM has a daily flight from Amsterdam Schiphol to Sint Maarten so you would
think the pilots know the landing.

This one (PH-BFG) came in a bit low (my guess is about 10 m) and was lucky
to miss the fence.
Look at the man in the white shirt ducking. The guy in the car was lucky.
I have stood at the same location on many occasions to tak pictures and
never felt uncomfortable.

Just behind the fin you can see the terrace of the Sunset Beach Bar where
you have a fantastic view of all the aircraft landing and taking off.

The second picture is taken from the terrace and shows another 747 (PH-BFA)
making a better approach.

Regards,
Herman

[turt[_2_]]

This has to be photoshopped.

"Herman" > wrote in message
b.home.nl...
> The first picture is from Airliners.Net but I want to share it with the
> NG.

[Scubabix]

No, they do land just like that.


"turt" > wrote in message
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> This has to be photoshopped.

[Maple1]

turt wrote:

> This has to be photoshopped.
>
> "Herman" > wrote in message
> b.home.nl...
>
>>The first picture is from Airliners.Net but I want to share it with the
>>NG.
>
>
>


There are some great vids on Utube of people being blown into the ocean
there also. And it is a game to hold the fence behind a heavy and see if
you can keep holding on. Not too many try it though.

[Mitchell Holman]

"turt" > wrote in news:48c44603$0$4028
:

> This has to be photoshopped.
>

I have been to St. Maarten and no, it is not photoshopped.
The planes really do come in that low.

[Hans Holbein]

Maple1 schrieb:
> turt wrote:
>
>> This has to be photoshopped.
>>
>> "Herman" > wrote in message
>> b.home.nl...
>>
>>>The first picture is from Airliners.Net but I want to share it with the
>>>NG.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> There are some great vids on Utube of people being blown into the ocean
> there also. And it is a game to hold the fence behind a heavy and see if
> you can keep holding on. Not too many try it though.
>
Only the blast or heat also?

[JRW]

Mitchell Holman wrote:
> "turt" > wrote in news:48c44603$0$4028
> :
>
>
>> This has to be photoshopped.
>>
>>
>
> I have been to St. Maarten and no, it is not photoshopped.
> The planes really do come in that low.
>
>
>
>
Try landing in Guam...lol

Big cliff in front of you...lol And it's close also........oh! man!

JRW

[Herman]

"Maple1" > schreef in bericht
news:XHYwk.256089$gc5.126532@pd7urf2no...
> turt wrote:
>
>> This has to be photoshopped.
>>
>> "Herman" > wrote in message
>> b.home.nl...
>>
>>>The first picture is from Airliners.Net but I want to share it with the
>>>NG.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> There are some great vids on Utube of people being blown into the ocean
> there also. And it is a game to hold the fence behind a heavy and see if
> you can keep holding on. Not too many try it though.
>
And surprisingly many people think they can stay on the beach behind a 747
taking off.
It's quite fun seeing them scramble away to stop being sandblasted :-)

Regards,
Herman

[David Hartung[_2_]]

Herman wrote:
> The first picture is from Airliners.Net but I want to share it with the NG.
>
> KLM has a daily flight from Amsterdam Schiphol to Sint Maarten so you would
> think the pilots know the landing.
>
> This one (PH-BFG) came in a bit low (my guess is about 10 m) and was lucky
> to miss the fence.
> Look at the man in the white shirt ducking. The guy in the car was lucky.
> I have stood at the same location on many occasions to tak pictures and
> never felt uncomfortable.
>
> Just behind the fin you can see the terrace of the Sunset Beach Bar where
> you have a fantastic view of all the aircraft landing and taking off.
>
> The second picture is taken from the terrace and shows another 747 (PH-BFA)
> making a better approach.

Does this runway run from one side of the island to the other?

[Herman]

"David Hartung" > schreef in bericht
. ..
> Herman wrote:
>> The first picture is from Airliners.Net but I want to share it with the
>> NG.
>>
>> KLM has a daily flight from Amsterdam Schiphol to Sint Maarten so you
>> would think the pilots know the landing.
>>
>> This one (PH-BFG) came in a bit low (my guess is about 10 m) and was
>> lucky to miss the fence.
>> Look at the man in the white shirt ducking. The guy in the car was lucky.
>> I have stood at the same location on many occasions to tak pictures and
>> never felt uncomfortable.
>>
>> Just behind the fin you can see the terrace of the Sunset Beach Bar where
>> you have a fantastic view of all the aircraft landing and taking off.
>>
>> The second picture is taken from the terrace and shows another 747
>> (PH-BFA) making a better approach.
>
> Does this runway run from one side of the island to the other?

No. Is on the western side of the Dutch part of the island.
Jet aircraft always approach from the west (Yes, I know there will probably
have been an exception. Never mind.). They also taxy from the apron to the
western end of the runway, do a 180 and take off.
At the eastern end of the runway there is Simpson Bay so there is no easy
way to extend the runway but mostly the big jets have no problem landing.
Taking off is another matter. Big jets can not take off with a full fuel
load because there a hills at the other end of Simpson Bay. They take off
with partly filled tanks and for trans-Atlantic flights they land at nearby
islands with longer runways.
That is one of the reasons the Sunset Beach Bar is so popular. You can sit
there drinking something cold and wait for the plane carrying the people you
expect to come in and when you bring people away you can drop them at the
airport, go to the bar and wait for the plane to take off.

Regards,
Herman

[Oviedo]

> Try landing in Guam...lol
> Big cliff in front of you...lol And it's close also........oh! man!
>
> JRW

I did for 2 years when stationed at Andersen AFB.

[Mitchell Holman]

JRW > wrote in news:4158a$48c53d87$5ed0894b$21290
@cache1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl:

> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> "turt" > wrote in news:48c44603$0$4028
>> :
>>
>>
>>> This has to be photoshopped.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I have been to St. Maarten and no, it is not photoshopped.
>> The planes really do come in that low.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Try landing in Guam...lol
>
> Big cliff in front of you...lol And it's close also........oh! man!



Try landing at Saba.

As in "no margin for error".............

[Wickiup]

> Try landing at Saba.
>
> As in "no margin for error".............
>
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What class of aircraft are you landing at Saba?
Looks neat and clean and, well, short.

[Herman]

"Wickiup" > schreef in bericht
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>> Try landing at Saba.
>>
>> As in "no margin for error".............
>>
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> What class of aircraft are you landing at Saba?
> Looks neat and clean and, well, short.

Winair is the only airline flying there with Twin Otters.
The strip is approx. 200 m long with no possibility to extend. Before a rock
outcrop was blasted away the aircraft had to approach in a lefthand curve
too.
In reasonable weather there is no problem. The planes have approx. 25 m to
spare.
You can buy T-shirts on Saba: "I survived the Saba landing".

Regards,
Herman

[Peter Hucker[_2_]]

On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:49:34 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> wrote:

>JRW > wrote in news:4158a$48c53d87$5ed0894b$21290
:
>
>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> "turt" > wrote in news:48c44603$0$4028
>>> :
>>>
>>>
>>>> This has to be photoshopped.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have been to St. Maarten and no, it is not photoshopped.
>>> The planes really do come in that low.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Try landing in Guam...lol
>>
>> Big cliff in front of you...lol And it's close also........oh! man!
>
>
>
> Try landing at Saba.
>
> As in "no margin for error".............

What are the Xs?
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A construction worker goes to the doctor and says, "Doc, I'm constipated."
The doctor examines him for a minute and then says, "Lean over the table."
The construction worker leans over the table, the doctor whacks him on the ass with a baseball bat, and then sends him into the bathroom.
He comes out a few minutes later and says, "Doc, I feel great. What should I do?"
The doctor says, "Stop wiping with cement bags."

[Ron]

"Peter Hucker" > wrote in message
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>
> What are the Xs?

The X means the runway is permanently closed. The airport is open though,
you need a waiver for permission to land. Like Herman said: WinAir is the
only airline operating scheduled flights to and from Saba, from SXM.

Ron
--
Non urinat in ventum

[Wickiup]

"Herman" > wrote in
b.home.nl:

>
> "Wickiup" > schreef in bericht
> . 21...
>>> Try landing at Saba.
>>>
>>> As in "no margin for error".............
>>>
>>> begin 644 Saba 02.jpg
>>>
>>> Attachment decoded: Saba 02.jpg
>>> `
>>> end
>>>
>>>
>> What class of aircraft are you landing at Saba?
>> Looks neat and clean and, well, short.
>
> Winair is the only airline flying there with Twin Otters.
> The strip is approx. 200 m long with no possibility to extend. Before
> a rock outcrop was blasted away the aircraft had to approach in a
> lefthand curve too.
> In reasonable weather there is no problem. The planes have approx. 25
> m to spare.
> You can buy T-shirts on Saba: "I survived the Saba landing".
>
> Regards,
> Herman
>
>

Thanks!

[Peter Hucker[_2_]]

On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 21:07:50 +0200, "Ron" > wrote:

>
>"Peter Hucker" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> What are the Xs?
>
>The X means the runway is permanently closed. The airport is open though,
>you need a waiver for permission to land. Like Herman said: WinAir is the
>only airline operating scheduled flights to and from Saba, from SXM.

I'd have used bigger Xs.

>Ron
>--
>Non urinat in ventum

Does that mean don't **** in the air conditioning unit?
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If you lived as a child in the 70's or the 80's, looking back, it's hard to believe that we have lived as long as we have........ As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags. Our baby cots were covered with bright coloured lead-based paint. We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors, or cabinets, and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets.(Not to mention hitchhiking to town as a young kid!)

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Please pass this on to others that have had the luck to grow up as kids, before lawyers and government regulated our lives, for our own good?