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Glenn[_2_]
September 13th 08, 12:24 AM
Alan Erskine[_3_]
September 13th 08, 12:52 AM
"Glenn" > wrote in message
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Great movie called Fail Safe had the B-58. In that movie, the B-58 was
called the "Vindicator"; was that the actual name?
Herman
September 13th 08, 01:01 AM
No, the official name was Hustler.
Caused quite a stir at the time because in the US of A a Hustler is also a
Lady of Negotiable Virtue.
The name was retained though.
Regards,
Herman
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> Great movie called Fail Safe had the B-58. In that movie, the B-58 was
> called the "Vindicator"; was that the actual name?
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Steven P. McNicoll[_2_]
September 13th 08, 06:42 AM
Alan Erskine wrote:
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> Great movie called Fail Safe had the B-58. In that movie, the B-58
> was called the "Vindicator"; was that the actual name?
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Hustler
Bill Brown
September 13th 08, 06:08 PM
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Glenn,
That is one H - - - of a difficult place to take photographs with the
lighting in that part of the Museum. You did it a lot better than *I* did.
Congrats!
--
William M. (Bill) Brown
seneo-pro
Panic
September 13th 08, 06:53 PM
No. The B-58 was the Hustler. See:
Darrell R. Schmidt
B-58 Hustler Web Site
http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/
USAF Pilot Class 55-I Web Site
http://pilotclass55india.org/
"Alan Erskine" > wrote in message
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> Great movie called Fail Safe had the B-58. In that movie, the B-58 was
> called the "Vindicator"; was that the actual name?
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Alan Erskine[_3_]
September 13th 08, 08:14 PM
"Panic" > wrote in message
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> No. The B-58 was the Hustler. See:
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> Darrell R. Schmidt
> B-58 Hustler Web Site
> http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/
> USAF Pilot Class 55-I Web Site
> http://pilotclass55india.org/
Maybe they couldn't say "Hustler" in the '60's...
Glenn[_2_]
September 14th 08, 12:05 AM
Actually, the hardest part was waiting till the people got out of the shot.
I spent 2 days there and eventually for some shots just had to live with
people. Although, I went back to the third hall on day 2 and went there
before anyone else and got a good 30 minutes before the first person
appeared
"Bill Brown" > wrote in message
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> Glenn,
> That is one H - - - of a difficult place to take photographs with the
> lighting in that part of the Museum. You did it a lot better than *I*
> did. Congrats!
> --
> William M. (Bill) Brown
> seneo-pro
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Dave Whiley
September 14th 08, 11:23 AM
Alan Erskine wrote:
> "Glenn" > wrote in message
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> Great movie called Fail Safe had the B-58. In that movie, the B-58 was
> called the "Vindicator"; was that the actual name?
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With you on Fail Safe - unfortunately (and unjustly) overshadowed in
popular memory by Dr Strangelove, IMO.
.... and the name "(Villiers) Vindicator" was also used for the V-bomber
in Thunderball (the novel at any rate - I can't remember whether it was
named in the film, or whether the Vulcan just made an uncredited cameo
appearance.)
--
Dave
not-me should be djw001 and there's no need for any wossname
Alan Erskine[_3_]
September 14th 08, 12:40 PM
"Dave Whiley" > wrote in message
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> With you on Fail Safe - unfortunately (and unjustly) overshadowed in
> popular memory by Dr Strangelove, IMO.
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> ... and the name "(Villiers) Vindicator" was also used for the V-bomber in
> Thunderball (the novel at any rate - I can't remember whether it was named
> in the film, or whether the Vulcan just made an uncredited cameo
> appearance.)
I don't think it was a Vulcan in Thunderball; I think it was the Valiant.
As for Dr Strangelove; they are two completely different movies. Stangelove
was the blackest of black comedies, while Fail Safe was something else
entirely; both great movies (for some reason, my DVD of Fail Safe won't play
properly on my DVD player damn it!). Of the two, Fail Safe is the better
movie as it shows how easily something like that could happen; however, on
the Strangelove DVD, there's an interview with Robert McNamara - quite an
amazing interview - he says the situation in Strangelove was quite possible.
Very scary.
Indrek Aavisto
September 14th 08, 02:47 PM
AE> "Dave Whiley" > wrote in
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>> With you on Fail Safe - unfortunately (and unjustly) overshadowed in
>> popular memory by Dr Strangelove, IMO.
>> ... and the name "(Villiers) Vindicator" was also used for the
>> V-bomber in Thunderball (the novel at any rate - I can't remember whether
>> it was
>> named in the film, or whether the Vulcan just made an uncredited cameo
>> appearance.)
AE> I don't think it was a Vulcan in Thunderball; I think it was the
AE> Valiant.
AE>
Check out this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Vulcan
It mentions that a Vulcan was used for the film.
Cheers,
Indrek Aavisto
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Criticism is easy; achievement is difficult. W.S. Churchill
Dave Whiley
September 14th 08, 07:04 PM
Indrek Aavisto wrote:
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> Check out this link
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Vulcan
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> It mentions that a Vulcan was used for the film.
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> Cheers,
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> Indrek Aavisto
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Indeed.
I knew I had this image lying around somewhere...
Repainted by its present owners, I assume (it would be a remarkable
coincidence if it just happened to sport the same paint job as what
would, 40 years later, become the last flying example of its kind!)
--
Dave
not-me should be djw001 and there's no need for any wossname
Alan Erskine[_3_]
September 15th 08, 02:51 AM
"Dave Whiley" > wrote in message
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> I knew I had this image lying around somewhere...
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> Repainted by its present owners, I assume (it would be a remarkable
> coincidence if it just happened to sport the same paint job as what
> would, 40 years later, become the last flying example of its kind!)
Ok; I always thought it was a Valiant in Thunderball.
Herman
September 17th 08, 12:18 AM
"Alan Erskine" > schreef in bericht
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>> I knew I had this image lying around somewhere...
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>> Repainted by its present owners, I assume (it would be a remarkable
>> coincidence if it just happened to sport the same paint job as what
>> would, 40 years later, become the last flying example of its kind!)
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> Ok; I always thought it was a Valiant in Thunderball.
>
(Puts on Jeremy Paxman voice) A VALIANT?
Good Grief no. Anyone from the other team?
Regards,
Herman
Alan Erskine[_3_]
September 17th 08, 01:14 AM
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>> Ok; I always thought it was a Valiant in Thunderball.
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> (Puts on Jeremy Paxman voice) A VALIANT?
> Good Grief no. Anyone from the other team?
<bows head in shame....>
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