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Mick[_2_]
September 22nd 08, 04:57 AM
"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
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| Rich Ahrens > wrote in news:48d58d51$0$90344
| :
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| > on 9/20/2008 1:28 PM Bertie the Bunyip said the following:
| >> Naked Gonad > wrote in
news:48d4fd2b$1_1@mk-nntp-
| >> 2.news.uk.tiscali.com:
| >>
| >>> Had them knock on our door this morning, more religious
| >>> nutcases spouting the fear that the world is gonna end and
| >>> if we didn't comply with their silly belief, we would not be
| >>> saved, nor would we go to paradise. I've already been to Florida
| >>> and that's the nearest thing to paradise in my opinion (except
| >>> when those nasty hurricanes strike)...HA!
| >>>
| >>
| >> I~'ve been to Florida. Nearest thing to hell!
| >
| > Excepting Oklahoma and Texas, of course...
| >
|
|
|
| I disagree.
|
|
| They're worse than hell.
|
|
| Bertie

September 22nd 08, 02:24 PM
On Sep 22, 12:17*pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> "Mick" <#$$#@%%%.^^^> wrote :
>
>
>
>
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> > "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
> >| Rich Ahrens > wrote in news:48d58d51$0$90344
> >| :
> >|
> >| > on 9/20/2008 1:28 PM Bertie the Bunyip said the following:
> >| >> Naked Gonad > wrote in
> >news:48d4fd2b$1_1@mk-nntp-
> >| >> 2.news.uk.tiscali.com:
> >| >>
> >| >>> Had them knock on our door this morning, more religious
> >| >>> nutcases spouting the fear that the world is gonna end and
> >| >>> if we didn't comply with their silly belief, we would not be
> >| >>> saved, nor would we go to paradise. I've already been to Florida
> >| >>> * and that's the nearest thing to paradise in my opinion (except
> >| >>> when those nasty hurricanes strike)...HA!
> >| >>>
> >| >>
> >| >> I~'ve been to Florida. Nearest thing to hell!
> >| >
> >| > Excepting Oklahoma and Texas, of course...
> >| >
> >|
> >|
> >|
> >| I disagree.
> >|
> >|
> >| They're worse than hell.
> >|
> >|
> >| Bertie
>
> Aww, still tongue tied wanna be boi?
>
> Bertie

You haven't been to Glasgow.

Gonad

Wim Jay
September 22nd 08, 03:51 PM
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On Sep 22, 12:17 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> "Mick" <#$$#@%%%.^^^> wrote :
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
> >| Rich Ahrens > wrote in news:48d58d51$0$90344
> >| :
> >|
> >| > on 9/20/2008 1:28 PM Bertie the Bunyip said the following:
> >| >> Naked Gonad > wrote in
> >news:48d4fd2b$1_1@mk-nntp-
> >| >> 2.news.uk.tiscali.com:
> >| >>
> >| >>> Had them knock on our door this morning, more religious
> >| >>> nutcases spouting the fear that the world is gonna end and
> >| >>> if we didn't comply with their silly belief, we would not be
> >| >>> saved, nor would we go to paradise. I've already been to Florida
> >| >>> and that's the nearest thing to paradise in my opinion (except
> >| >>> when those nasty hurricanes strike)...HA!
> >| >>>
> >| >>
> >| >> I~'ve been to Florida. Nearest thing to hell!
> >| >
> >| > Excepting Oklahoma and Texas, of course...
> >| >
> >|
> >|
> >|
> >| I disagree.
> >|
> >|
> >| They're worse than hell.
> >|
> >|
> >| Bertie
>
> Aww, still tongue tied wanna be boi?
>
> Bertie

You haven't been to Glasgow.

Gonad

////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Hi Ronald Tompkins! Are you still keeping Gonad informed of my address?

ROLF!

--
Wim

Naked Gonad[_2_]
September 22nd 08, 03:59 PM
Wim Jay wrote:
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> On Sep 22, 12:17 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> "Mick" <#$$#@%%%.^^^> wrote :
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> | Rich Ahrens > wrote in news:48d58d51$0$90344
>>> | :
>>> |
>>> | > on 9/20/2008 1:28 PM Bertie the Bunyip said the following:
>>> | >> Naked Gonad > wrote in
>>> news:48d4fd2b$1_1@mk-nntp-
>>> | >> 2.news.uk.tiscali.com:
>>> | >>
>>> | >>> Had them knock on our door this morning, more religious
>>> | >>> nutcases spouting the fear that the world is gonna end and
>>> | >>> if we didn't comply with their silly belief, we would not be
>>> | >>> saved, nor would we go to paradise. I've already been to Florida
>>> | >>> and that's the nearest thing to paradise in my opinion (except
>>> | >>> when those nasty hurricanes strike)...HA!
>>> | >>>
>>> | >>
>>> | >> I~'ve been to Florida. Nearest thing to hell!
>>> | >
>>> | > Excepting Oklahoma and Texas, of course...
>>> | >
>>> |
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | I disagree.
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | They're worse than hell.
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | Bertie
>> Aww, still tongue tied wanna be boi?
>>
>> Bertie
>
> You haven't been to Glasgow.
>
> Gonad
>
> ////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>
> Hi Ronald Tompkins! Are you still keeping Gonad informed of my address?
>
> ROLF!
>
It took you a couple of days to find out even when I made it obvious.HA!

Gonad

Wim Jay
September 22nd 08, 04:02 PM
"Naked Gonad" > wrote in message
...
> Wim Jay wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ronald Tompkins! Are you still keeping Gonad informed of my address?
>>
>> ROLF!
>>
> It took you a couple of days to find out even when I made it obvious.HA!
>
> Gonad

How come it took you so long to think up that feeble excuse, Ronald? Are you
an Okie?

--
Wim

Bertie the Bunyip[_28_]
September 22nd 08, 08:31 PM
wrote in news:9438d71b-df03-40de-8bae-
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> On Sep 22, 12:17*pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> "Mick" <#$$#@%%%.^^^> wrote :
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >| Rich Ahrens > wrote in news:48d58d51$0$90344
>> >| :
>> >|
>> >| > on 9/20/2008 1:28 PM Bertie the Bunyip said the following:
>> >| >> Naked Gonad > wrote in
>> >news:48d4fd2b$1_1@mk-nntp-
>> >| >> 2.news.uk.tiscali.com:
>> >| >>
>> >| >>> Had them knock on our door this morning, more religious
>> >| >>> nutcases spouting the fear that the world is gonna end and
>> >| >>> if we didn't comply with their silly belief, we would not be
>> >| >>> saved, nor would we go to paradise. I've already been to
Florida
>> >| >>> * and that's the nearest thing to paradise in my opinion
(except
>> >| >>> when those nasty hurricanes strike)...HA!
>> >| >>>
>> >| >>
>> >| >> I~'ve been to Florida. Nearest thing to hell!
>> >| >
>> >| > Excepting Oklahoma and Texas, of course...
>> >| >
>> >|
>> >|
>> >|
>> >| I disagree.
>> >|
>> >|
>> >| They're worse than hell.
>> >|
>> >|
>> >| Bertie
>>
>> Aww, still tongue tied wanna be boi?
>>
>> Bertie
>
> You haven't been to Glasgow.
>

I have, actually. Another contender aong with most other Brit Cities.




Bertie

Mick[_2_]
September 23rd 08, 07:10 PM
"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
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| "Mick" <#$$#@%%%.^^^> wrote in :
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| >
| > "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
| > ...
| >| Rich Ahrens > wrote in news:48d58d51$0$90344
| >| :
| >|
| >| > on 9/20/2008 1:28 PM Bertie the Bunyip said the following:
| >| >> Naked Gonad > wrote in
| > news:48d4fd2b$1_1@mk-nntp-
| >| >> 2.news.uk.tiscali.com:
| >| >>
| >| >>> Had them knock on our door this morning, more religious
| >| >>> nutcases spouting the fear that the world is gonna end and
| >| >>> if we didn't comply with their silly belief, we would not be
| >| >>> saved, nor would we go to paradise. I've already been to Florida
| >| >>> and that's the nearest thing to paradise in my opinion (except
| >| >>> when those nasty hurricanes strike)...HA!
| >| >>>
| >| >>
| >| >> I~'ve been to Florida. Nearest thing to hell!
| >| >
| >| > Excepting Oklahoma and Texas, of course...
| >| >
| >|
| >|
| >|
| >| I disagree.
| >|
| >|
| >| They're worse than hell.
| >|
| >|
| >| Bertie
| >
| >
| >
|
|
|
|
|
| Aww, still tongue tied wanna be boi?
|
| Bertie

Mick[_2_]
September 23rd 08, 07:10 PM
"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
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| wrote in news:9438d71b-df03-40de-8bae-
| :
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| > On Sep 22, 12:17 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
| >> "Mick" <#$$#@%%%.^^^> wrote :
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >> > "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
| >> ...
| >> >| Rich Ahrens > wrote in news:48d58d51$0$90344
| >> >| :
| >> >|
| >> >| > on 9/20/2008 1:28 PM Bertie the Bunyip said the following:
| >> >| >> Naked Gonad > wrote in
| >> >news:48d4fd2b$1_1@mk-nntp-
| >> >| >> 2.news.uk.tiscali.com:
| >> >| >>
| >> >| >>> Had them knock on our door this morning, more religious
| >> >| >>> nutcases spouting the fear that the world is gonna end and
| >> >| >>> if we didn't comply with their silly belief, we would not be
| >> >| >>> saved, nor would we go to paradise. I've already been to
| Florida
| >> >| >>> and that's the nearest thing to paradise in my opinion
| (except
| >> >| >>> when those nasty hurricanes strike)...HA!
| >> >| >>>
| >> >| >>
| >> >| >> I~'ve been to Florida. Nearest thing to hell!
| >> >| >
| >> >| > Excepting Oklahoma and Texas, of course...
| >> >| >
| >> >|
| >> >|
| >> >|
| >> >| I disagree.
| >> >|
| >> >|
| >> >| They're worse than hell.
| >> >|
| >> >|
| >> >| Bertie
| >>
| >> Aww, still tongue tied wanna be boi?
| >>
| >> Bertie
| >
| > You haven't been to Glasgow.
| >
|
| I have, actually. Another contender aong with most other Brit Cities.
|
|
|
|
| Bertie
|

Gig 601Xl Builder
September 23rd 08, 10:41 PM
I've never understood something about Jehovah's Witnesses.

If they think there are only going to be 144,000 people in heaven, why
are they still recruiting?

September 24th 08, 08:24 AM
On 24 Sep, 07:14, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> "Mick" <#$$#@%%%.^^^> wrote :
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> > "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
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> >| "Mick" <#$$#@%%%.^^^> wrote :
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> >| >
> >| > "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> >| ...
> >| >| Rich Ahrens > wrote in news:48d58d51$0$90344
> >| >| :
> >| >|
> >| >| > on 9/20/2008 1:28 PM Bertie the Bunyip said the following:
> >| >| >> Naked Gonad > wrote in
> >| >news:48d4fd2b$1_1@mk-nntp-
> >| >| >> 2.news.uk.tiscali.com:
> >| >| >>
> >| >| >>> Had them knock on our door this morning, more religious
> >| >| >>> nutcases spouting the fear that the world is gonna end and
> >| >| >>> if we didn't comply with their silly belief, we would not be
> >| >| >>> saved, nor would we go to paradise. I've already been to
> Florida
> >| >| >>> * and that's the nearest thing to paradise in my opinion
> (except
> >| >| >>> when those nasty hurricanes strike)...HA!
> >| >| >>>
> >| >| >>
> >| >| >> I~'ve been to Florida. Nearest thing to hell!
> >| >| >
> >| >| > Excepting Oklahoma and Texas, of course...
> >| >| >
> >| >|
> >| >|
> >| >|
> >| >| I disagree.
> >| >|
> >| >|
> >| >| They're worse than hell.
> >| >|
> >| >|
> >| >| Bertie
> >| >
> >| >
> >| >
> >|
> >|
> >|
> >|
> >|
> >| Aww, still tongue tied wanna be boi?
> >|
> >| Bertie
>
> *Apparently so.
>
> Bertie

Okies taste nice.

Gonad

Mick[_2_]
September 25th 08, 10:28 PM
"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
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| "Mick" <#$$#@%%%.^^^> wrote in :
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| > "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
| > .. .
| >| wrote in news:9438d71b-df03-40de-8bae-
| >| :
| >|
| >| > On Sep 22, 12:17 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
| >| >> "Mick" <#$$#@%%%.^^^> wrote innews:4JEBk.11778$Il.7305
| @newsfe09.iad:
| >| >>
| >| >>
| >| >>
| >| >>
| >| >>
| >| >> > "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
| >| >> ...
| >| >> >| Rich Ahrens > wrote in news:48d58d51$0$90344
| >| >> >| :
| >| >> >|
| >| >> >| > on 9/20/2008 1:28 PM Bertie the Bunyip said the following:
| >| >> >| >> Naked Gonad > wrote in
| >| >> >news:48d4fd2b$1_1@mk-nntp-
| >| >> >| >> 2.news.uk.tiscali.com:
| >| >> >| >>
| >| >> >| >>> Had them knock on our door this morning, more religious
| >| >> >| >>> nutcases spouting the fear that the world is gonna end and
| >| >> >| >>> if we didn't comply with their silly belief, we would not
| be
| >| >> >| >>> saved, nor would we go to paradise. I've already been to
| >| Florida
| >| >> >| >>> and that's the nearest thing to paradise in my opinion
| >| (except
| >| >> >| >>> when those nasty hurricanes strike)...HA!
| >| >> >| >>>
| >| >> >| >>
| >| >> >| >> I~'ve been to Florida. Nearest thing to hell!
| >| >> >| >
| >| >> >| > Excepting Oklahoma and Texas, of course...
| >| >> >| >
| >| >> >|
| >| >> >|
| >| >> >|
| >| >> >| I disagree.
| >| >> >|
| >| >> >|
| >| >> >| They're worse than hell.
| >| >> >|
| >| >> >|
| >| >> >| Bertie
| >| >>
| >| >> Aww, still tongue tied wanna be boi?
| >| >>
| >| >> Bertie
| >| >
| >| > You haven't been to Glasgow.
| >| >
| >|
| >| I have, actually. Another contender aong with most other Brit Cities.
| >|
| >|
| >|
| >|
| >| Bertie
| >|
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| >
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Mick[_2_]
September 25th 08, 10:28 PM
"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
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| "Mick" <#$$#@%%%.^^^> wrote in :
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| > "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
| > ...
| >| "Mick" <#$$#@%%%.^^^> wrote in :
| >|
| >| >
| >| > "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
| >| > ...
| >| >| Rich Ahrens > wrote in news:48d58d51$0$90344
| >| >| :
| >| >|
| >| >| > on 9/20/2008 1:28 PM Bertie the Bunyip said the following:
| >| >| >> Naked Gonad > wrote in
| >| > news:48d4fd2b$1_1@mk-nntp-
| >| >| >> 2.news.uk.tiscali.com:
| >| >| >>
| >| >| >>> Had them knock on our door this morning, more religious
| >| >| >>> nutcases spouting the fear that the world is gonna end and
| >| >| >>> if we didn't comply with their silly belief, we would not be
| >| >| >>> saved, nor would we go to paradise. I've already been to
| Florida
| >| >| >>> and that's the nearest thing to paradise in my opinion
| (except
| >| >| >>> when those nasty hurricanes strike)...HA!
| >| >| >>>
| >| >| >>
| >| >| >> I~'ve been to Florida. Nearest thing to hell!
| >| >| >
| >| >| > Excepting Oklahoma and Texas, of course...
| >| >| >
| >| >|
| >| >|
| >| >|
| >| >| I disagree.
| >| >|
| >| >|
| >| >| They're worse than hell.
| >| >|
| >| >|
| >| >| Bertie
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >
| >|
| >|
| >|
| >|
| >|
| >| Aww, still tongue tied wanna be boi?
| >|
| >| Bertie
| >
| >
| >
| >
|
| Apparently so.
|
|
|
| Bertie

Mick[_2_]
September 25th 08, 10:55 PM
"Gig 601Xl Builder" > wrote in message
m...
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| I've never understood something about Jehovah's Witnesses.
|
| If they think there are only going to be 144,000 people in heaven, why
| are they still recruiting?

You have a point.

Bertie the Bunyip[_28_]
September 26th 08, 05:14 AM
"Mick" <#$$#@%%%.^^^> wrote in :

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> "Gig 601Xl Builder" > wrote in message
> m...
>|
>| I've never understood something about Jehovah's Witnesses.
>|
>| If they think there are only going to be 144,000 people in heaven, why
>| are they still recruiting?
>
> You have a point.
>
>
>

So do you.



Bertie

C J Campbell[_1_]
September 26th 08, 07:38 AM
On 2008-09-23 14:41:48 -0700, Gig 601Xl Builder
> said:

>
> I've never understood something about Jehovah's Witnesses.
>
> If they think there are only going to be 144,000 people in heaven, why
> are they still recruiting?

As I understand it, they no longer have that doctrine.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

September 26th 08, 12:37 PM
On Sep 26, 12:38*am, C J Campbell >
wrote:
> On 2008-09-23 14:41:48 -0700, Gig 601Xl Builder
> > said:
>
>
>
> > I've never understood something about Jehovah's Witnesses.
>
> > If they think there are only going to be 144,000 people in heaven, why
> > are they still recruiting?
>
> As I understand it, they no longer have that doctrine.
> --
> Waddling Eagle
> World Famous Flight Instructor

Funny how the change rules to fit their mission....Like god really
came down an issued new rules . <G>

Gig 601Xl Builder
September 26th 08, 02:52 PM
C J Campbell wrote:
> On 2008-09-23 14:41:48 -0700, Gig 601Xl Builder
> > said:
>
>>
>> I've never understood something about Jehovah's Witnesses.
>>
>> If they think there are only going to be 144,000 people in heaven, why
>> are they still recruiting?
>
> As I understand it, they no longer have that doctrine.

Looks like they haven't completely dropped the number. From their
website. http://www.watchtower.org/e/200608b/article_01.htm

"A few humans have the hope of being resurrected to life in heaven.
Their number is small—144,000 in all. However, these 144,000 are quite
distinct from those creatures commonly called angels."

A Google of their website shows 310 references for 144,000

C J Campbell[_1_]
September 26th 08, 05:40 PM
On 2008-09-26 04:37:16 -0700, " > said:

> On Sep 26, 12:38*am, C J Campbell >
> wrote:
>> On 2008-09-23 14:41:48 -0700, Gig 601Xl Builder
>> > said:
>>
>>
>>
>>> I've never understood something about Jehovah's Witnesses.
>>
>>> If they think there are only going to be 144,000 people in heaven, why
>>> are they still recruiting?
>>
>> As I understand it, they no longer have that doctrine.
>> --
>> Waddling Eagle
>> World Famous Flight Instructor
>
> Funny how the change rules to fit their mission....Like god really
> came down an issued new rules . <G>

Well, why not, if it comes to that? Is that not a fundamental belief of
Christianity in general -- that God came down and issued new rules?

I don't have time for bashing others' religious beliefs. If the
Jehovah's Witnesses feel compelled to send people around that is fine
by me. I don't have to listen to them, but I don't have to abuse them,
either.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

September 26th 08, 11:56 PM
On Sep 26, 10:40*am, C J Campbell >
wrote:
> On 2008-09-26 04:37:16 -0700, " > said:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 26, 12:38*am, C J Campbell >
> > wrote:
> >> On 2008-09-23 14:41:48 -0700, Gig 601Xl Builder
> >> > said:
>
> >>> I've never understood something about Jehovah's Witnesses.
>
> >>> If they think there are only going to be 144,000 people in heaven, why
> >>> are they still recruiting?
>
> >> As I understand it, they no longer have that doctrine.
> >> --
> >> Waddling Eagle
> >> World Famous Flight Instructor
>
> > Funny how the change rules to fit their mission....Like god really
> > came down an issued new rules . <G>
>
> Well, why not, if it comes to that? Is that not a fundamental belief of
> Christianity in general -- that God came down and issued new rules?
>
> I don't have time for bashing others' religious beliefs. If the
> Jehovah's Witnesses feel compelled to send people around that is fine
> by me. I don't have to listen to them, but I don't have to abuse them,
> either.
> --
> Waddling Eagle
> World Famous Flight Instructor- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

JW's enjoy freedom of speech that the United States allows for all
residents, alot of people died to maintain that freedom. They will not
honor the US flag.

They enjoy freedom of religion that the United States allows for all
residents, they will NOT say the pledge or remove their hats, or for
that matter sing the national anthem..

Looks like a free ride to me

Morgans[_2_]
September 27th 08, 02:11 AM
> wrote

JW's enjoy freedom of speech that the United States allows for all
residents, alot of people died to maintain that freedom. They will not
honor the US flag.

They enjoy freedom of religion that the United States allows for all
residents, they will NOT say the pledge or remove their hats, or for
that matter sing the national anthem..

Looks like a free ride to me

Yep. They are not classified as a mainstream religion, in my book, but are
only a cult.
--
Jim in NC

C J Campbell[_1_]
September 27th 08, 03:23 AM
On 2008-09-26 15:56:52 -0700, " > said:

> On Sep 26, 10:40*am, C J Campbell >
> wrote:
>> On 2008-09-26 04:37:16 -0700, " > said:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 26, 12:38*am, C J Campbell >
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 2008-09-23 14:41:48 -0700, Gig 601Xl Builder
>>>> > said:
>>
>>>>> I've never understood something about Jehovah's Witnesses.
>>
>>>>> If they think there are only going to be 144,000 people in heaven, wh
> y
>>>>> are they still recruiting?
>>
>>>> As I understand it, they no longer have that doctrine.
>>>> --
>>>> Waddling Eagle
>>>> World Famous Flight Instructor
>>
>>> Funny how the change rules to fit their mission....Like god really
>>> came down an issued new rules . <G>
>>
>> Well, why not, if it comes to that? Is that not a fundamental belief of
>> Christianity in general -- that God came down and issued new rules?
>>
>> I don't have time for bashing others' religious beliefs. If the
>> Jehovah's Witnesses feel compelled to send people around that is fine
>> by me. I don't have to listen to them, but I don't have to abuse them,
>> either.
>> --
>> Waddling Eagle
>> World Famous Flight Instructor- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> JW's enjoy freedom of speech that the United States allows for all
> residents, alot of people died to maintain that freedom. They will not
> honor the US flag.
>
> They enjoy freedom of religion that the United States allows for all
> residents, they will NOT say the pledge or remove their hats, or for
> that matter sing the national anthem..
>
> Looks like a free ride to me

Well, maybe it is a free ride. Maybe it is a free ride for Quakers and
other peace groups as well. Still, they do have to pay taxes and those
taxes go to support our military, whether they like it or not.

I served my country in the Air Force. I have done as much as I thought
I could do to preserve freedom in this country. And I was glad to do
it. I do not begrudge the JWs or anybody else the freedoms that I
worked for. I only wish those freedoms were universal throughout the
world.

I strongly disagree with the JWs on many issues, especially on duty to
country. Nevertheless, as long as they are not actively fighting
against us or committing some act of treason, I am willing to let them
do as they wish.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

C J Campbell[_1_]
September 27th 08, 03:28 AM
On 2008-09-26 18:11:20 -0700, "Morgans" > said:

>
> > wrote
>
> JW's enjoy freedom of speech that the United States allows for all
> residents, alot of people died to maintain that freedom. They will not
> honor the US flag.
>
> They enjoy freedom of religion that the United States allows for all
> residents, they will NOT say the pledge or remove their hats, or for
> that matter sing the national anthem..
>
> Looks like a free ride to me
>
> Yep. They are not classified as a mainstream religion, in my book, but are
> only a cult.

Well, "cult" gets thrown around a lot, pretty carelessly IMHO. A lot of
people think I belong to a non-Christian "cult" because I do not accept
their idea of the Trinity. I do not think that their definition of the
Trinity is supported by the scriptures. So these people call me a
cultist, vandalize our churches, and abuse our missionaries. And a lot
of these people who dare call me a cultist have never served their
country or done much of anything to preserve freedom other than to
attack my freedoms. If it comes to a choice between the JWs and some
Christian evangelists who, I just might pick the JWs. The JWs, at
least, are willing to allow me my religious freedom. I cannot say the
same for some evangelists who claim to be patriotic, but who are
unwilling to put either their lives or their actions where their mouths
are.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

Morgans[_2_]
September 27th 08, 04:20 AM
"C J Campbell" > wrote

>
> Well, "cult" gets thrown around a lot, pretty carelessly IMHO.

Perhaps that is too harsh, and I thought that right after I hit send.
Still, they do have some very controlling ways among their followers. If
not the "C" word, it is close, IMHO.

>A lot of people think I belong to a non-Christian "cult" because I do not
>accept their idea of the Trinity.

I would have to think that there is a big jump, up to your religion from the
JW.

> I do not think that their definition of the Trinity is supported by the
> scriptures. So these people call me a cultist, vandalize our churches, and
> abuse our missionaries.

Extreemists. There are a lot of them around, unfortunately.

>And a lot of these people who dare call me a cultist have never served
>their country or done much of anything to preserve freedom other than to
>attack my freedoms. If it comes to a choice between the JWs and some
>Christian evangelists who, I just might pick the JWs.

Again, extreemists. If they do not allow you your freedom, they are at
fault.

> The JWs, at least, are willing to allow me my religious freedom. I cannot
> say the same for some evangelists who claim to be patriotic, but who are
> unwilling to put either their lives or their actions where their mouths
> are.

There are many problems with people who have no flexibility for other
people's views, and are willing to go to extreme measures to take other
people's freedoms away.

Although I may not agree with the JW point of view, and may even label them
with some name, I fully stand behind their right to believe as they want, as
long as they allow others to believe as they may.

When it comes down to it, that is what the whole basis of this country was
founded on. Long may that basis prosper.
--
Jim in NC

Bertie the Bunyip[_28_]
September 27th 08, 05:03 PM
C J Campbell > wrote in
news:200809261923038930-christophercampbell@hotmailcom:

> On 2008-09-26 15:56:52 -0700, " >
> said:
>
>> On Sep 26, 10:40*am, C J Campbell >
>> wrote:
>>> On 2008-09-26 04:37:16 -0700, " >
>>> said:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sep 26, 12:38*am, C J Campbell >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 2008-09-23 14:41:48 -0700, Gig 601Xl Builder
>>>>> > said:
>>>
>>>>>> I've never understood something about Jehovah's Witnesses.
>>>
>>>>>> If they think there are only going to be 144,000 people in
>>>>>> heaven, wh
>> y
>>>>>> are they still recruiting?
>>>
>>>>> As I understand it, they no longer have that doctrine.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Waddling Eagle
>>>>> World Famous Flight Instructor
>>>
>>>> Funny how the change rules to fit their mission....Like god really
>>>> came down an issued new rules . <G>
>>>
>>> Well, why not, if it comes to that? Is that not a fundamental belief
>>> of Christianity in general -- that God came down and issued new
>>> rules?
>>>
>>> I don't have time for bashing others' religious beliefs. If the
>>> Jehovah's Witnesses feel compelled to send people around that is
>>> fine by me. I don't have to listen to them, but I don't have to
>>> abuse them, either.
>>> --
>>> Waddling Eagle
>>> World Famous Flight Instructor- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> JW's enjoy freedom of speech that the United States allows for all
>> residents, alot of people died to maintain that freedom. They will
>> not honor the US flag.
>>
>> They enjoy freedom of religion that the United States allows for all
>> residents, they will NOT say the pledge or remove their hats, or for
>> that matter sing the national anthem..
>>
>> Looks like a free ride to me
>
> Well, maybe it is a free ride. Maybe it is a free ride for Quakers and
> other peace groups as well. Still, they do have to pay taxes and those
> taxes go to support our military, whether they like it or not.
>
> I served my country in the Air Force. I have done as much as I thought
> I could do to preserve freedom in this country. And I was glad to do
> it. I do not begrudge the JWs or anybody else the freedoms that I
> worked for. I only wish those freedoms were universal throughout the
> world.
>
> I strongly disagree with the JWs on many issues, especially on duty to
> country. Nevertheless, as long as they are not actively fighting
> against us or committing some act of treason, I am willing to let them
> do as they wish.
>

You're a true christian.



Bertie

Ash Wyllie
September 30th 08, 03:07 AM
C J Campbell opined

>On 2008-09-26 18:11:20 -0700, "Morgans" > said:

>>
>> > wrote
>>
>> JW's enjoy freedom of speech that the United States allows for all
>> residents, alot of people died to maintain that freedom. They will not
>> honor the US flag.
>>
>> They enjoy freedom of religion that the United States allows for all
>> residents, they will NOT say the pledge or remove their hats, or for
>> that matter sing the national anthem..
>>
>> Looks like a free ride to me
>>
>> Yep. They are not classified as a mainstream religion, in my book, but are
>> only a cult.

>Well, "cult" gets thrown around a lot, pretty carelessly IMHO. A lot of
>people think I belong to a non-Christian "cult" because I do not accept
>their idea of the Trinity. I do not think that their definition of the
>Trinity is supported by the scriptures. So these people call me a
>cultist, vandalize our churches, and abuse our missionaries. And a lot
>of these people who dare call me a cultist have never served their
>country or done much of anything to preserve freedom other than to
>attack my freedoms. If it comes to a choice between the JWs and some
>Christian evangelists who, I just might pick the JWs. The JWs, at
>least, are willing to allow me my religious freedom. I cannot say the
>same for some evangelists who claim to be patriotic, but who are
>unwilling to put either their lives or their actions where their mouths
>are.

>--
>Waddling Eagle
>World Famous Flight Instructor

A church is a cult with sufficient political power to make people call it a
chuch.


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