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Richard[_1_]
October 1st 08, 10:45 PM
When will ADS B be implementent and be Mandatory.
noel.wade
October 2nd 08, 12:29 AM
On Oct 1, 2:45*pm, Richard > wrote:
> When will ADS B be implementent and be Mandatory.
Richard -
To quote another source: "The FAA in October released the notice of
proposed rulemaking that would set a 2020 deadline for mandatory
installation of ADS-B avionics for aircraft that fly above 10,000 feet
mean sea level or in certain terminal airspace..."
NOTE: Right now its just an NPRM ("notice of proposed rulemaking")...
Its a statement by the FAA of what they would LIKE to implement, and
INTEND on implementing. AOPA, ATA, and a few other groups are
lobbying against it, because the NPRM requires pretty comprehensive
levels of ADS-B technology in the cockpit and the current costs are
steep. Anything that requires pilots or airlines to spend money gets
blasted by these groups, so its not surprising - but some of their
objections are reasonable.
Another thing to note is that the ADS-B NPRM does not currently
require the equipment in all aircraft. The wording is more like the
current Mode-C Transponder requirements, where you only need it in the
aircraft if you penetrate certain airspace or fly above a certain
altitude. Whether gliders will be exempt from any of this is still up
in the air, and I doubt you'll find out those kinds of details for a
few years yet. Bottom-line: Its not something to worry about yet.
Keep your ears open and work with the SSA and AOPA if you are
concerned or want to lobby for/against ADS-B... but there's no need to
panic about this being a sudden issue/cost in the next 3 - 5 years.
Personally, I'm FAR more concerned about the continuing availability
of Leaded (and non-Ethanol-contaminated) fuel for our towplanes!!
That's something that could start affecting glider operations as soon
as 2009...
Take care,
--Noel
Richard[_1_]
October 2nd 08, 12:43 AM
On Oct 1, 4:29*pm, "noel.wade" > wrote:
> On Oct 1, 2:45*pm, Richard > wrote:
>
> > When will ADS B be implementent and be Mandatory.
>
> Richard -
>
> To quote another source: *"The FAA in October released the notice of
> proposed rulemaking that would set a 2020 deadline for mandatory
> installation of ADS-B avionics for aircraft that fly above 10,000 feet
> mean sea level or in certain terminal airspace..."
>
> NOTE: *Right now its just an NPRM ("notice of proposed rulemaking")...
> Its a statement by the FAA of what they would LIKE to implement, and
> INTEND on implementing. *AOPA, ATA, and a few other groups are
> lobbying against it, because the NPRM requires pretty comprehensive
> levels of ADS-B technology in the cockpit and the current costs are
> steep. *Anything that requires pilots or airlines to spend money gets
> blasted by these groups, so its not surprising - but some of their
> objections are reasonable.
>
> Another thing to note is that the ADS-B NPRM does not currently
> require the equipment in all aircraft. *The wording is more like the
> current Mode-C Transponder requirements, where you only need it in the
> aircraft if you penetrate certain airspace or fly above a certain
> altitude. *Whether gliders will be exempt from any of this is still up
> in the air, and I doubt you'll find out those kinds of details for a
> few years yet. Bottom-line: Its not something to worry about yet.
> Keep your ears open and work with the SSA and AOPA if you are
> concerned or want to lobby for/against ADS-B... but there's no need to
> panic about this being a sudden issue/cost in the next 3 - 5 years.
>
> Personally, I'm FAR more concerned about the continuing availability
> of Leaded (and non-Ethanol-contaminated) fuel for our towplanes!!
> That's something that could start affecting glider operations as soon
> as 2009...
>
> Take care,
>
> --Noel
Noel,
Thanks that is what I suspected. I was just fishing for
confirmation. I did find a schecule.
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ato/service_units/enroute/surveillance_broadcast/schedule/
Targeted Removal of Legacy Surveillance FY 2016 – FY 2020
Thanks again,
Richard
www.craggyaero.com
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