Is the 757 fly by wire?

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1) Yes.
2) Of course, That's how Cheney managed to remotely pilot one into the
Pentagon.
3) No. The only FBW Boeing is the 777, the 757 uses conventional
cables and hydraulics.

Votes please...

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

wrote in news:32b34de4-626c-4207-8fdb-317988a61ee4
@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

> 1) Yes.
> 2) Of course, That's how Cheney managed to remotely pilot one into the
> Pentagon.
> 3) No. The only FBW Boeing is the 777, the 757 uses conventional
> cables and hydraulics.
>
> Votes please...
>

No

Bertie

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On 3 Okt, 16:58, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> wrote in news:32b34de4-626c-4207-8fdb-317988a61ee4
> @i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > 1) Yes.
> > 2) Of course, That's how Cheney managed to remotely pilot one into the
> > Pentagon.
> > 3) No. The only FBW Boeing is the 777, the 757 uses conventional
> > cables and hydraulics.
>
> > Votes please...
>
> No
>
> Bertie

No, you refuse to vote or no the 757 is not FBW?

[Mike]

> wrote in message
...
> On 3 Okt, 16:58, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> wrote in news:32b34de4-626c-4207-8fdb-317988a61ee4
>> @i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > 1) Yes.
>> > 2) Of course, That's how Cheney managed to remotely pilot one into the
>> > Pentagon.
>> > 3) No. The only FBW Boeing is the 777, the 757 uses conventional
>> > cables and hydraulics.
>>
>> > Votes please...
>>
>> No
>>
>> Bertie
>
> No, you refuse to vote or no the 757 is not FBW?

Yes.

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

wrote in news:e3141775-8cda-4759-bca5-85e8e24177d0
@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

> On 3 Okt, 16:58, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> wrote in news:32b34de4-626c-4207-8fdb-317988a61ee4
>> @i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > 1) Yes.
>> > 2) Of course, That's how Cheney managed to remotely pilot one into the
>> > Pentagon.
>> > 3) No. The only FBW Boeing is the 777, the 757 uses conventional
>> > cables and hydraulics.
>>
>> > Votes please...
>>
>> No
>>
>> Bertie
>
> No, you refuse to vote or no the 757 is not FBW?
>

It's not FBW


Bertie

[FriarTuck]

On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:30:36 +0000, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

> wrote in news:e3141775-8cda-4759-bca5-85e8e24177d0
> @a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On 3 Okt, 16:58, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>>> wrote in news:32b34de4-626c-4207-8fdb-317988a61ee4
>>> @i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>> > 1) Yes.
>>> > 2) Of course, That's how Cheney managed to remotely pilot one into
>>> > the Pentagon.
>>> > 3) No. The only FBW Boeing is the 777, the 757 uses conventional
>>> > cables and hydraulics.
>>>
>>> > Votes please...
>>>
>>> No
>>>
>>> Bertie
>>
>> No, you refuse to vote or no the 757 is not FBW?
>>
>>
> It's not FBW
>
>
> Bertie

if the throttle control goes through an ecu (probably a plc) isn't it at
least partially fly by wire?

as there is no cable involved (since WWII probably when still thick wire
controls) and its all electro mechanical/hydraulic isn't it fly by wire?

as the FMCS is fully capable of flying the plane is it not fly by wire
during the duration of FMCS control?

I mean in the broader sense of the phrase.

obviously there seems parrallel control on the 757 rather than on airbus
which is full fly by wire as joystick goes to FMCS but on 757 it has
both, and the FMCS unless turned off is always doing a bit of fly by
wire....

[Bertie the Bunyip[_28_]]

FriarTuck > wrote in news:22tFk.57446$yU7.27275
@newsfe19.ams2:

> On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:30:36 +0000, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
>
>> wrote in news:e3141775-8cda-4759-bca5-85e8e24177d0
>> @a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> On 3 Okt, 16:58, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>>>> wrote in news:32b34de4-626c-4207-8fdb-
317988a61ee4
>>>> @i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>>>>
>>>> > 1) Yes.
>>>> > 2) Of course, That's how Cheney managed to remotely pilot one
into
>>>> > the Pentagon.
>>>> > 3) No. The only FBW Boeing is the 777, the 757 uses conventional
>>>> > cables and hydraulics.
>>>>
>>>> > Votes please...
>>>>
>>>> No
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>> No, you refuse to vote or no the 757 is not FBW?
>>>
>>>
>> It's not FBW
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> if the throttle control goes through an ecu (probably a plc) isn't it
at
> least partially fly by wire?


Nope.

>
> as there is no cable involved (since WWII probably when still thick
wire
> controls) and its all electro mechanical/hydraulic isn't it fly by
wire?


There is a cable, or else it would be FBW and I would have said so.

Keep up.

>
> as the FMCS is fully capable of flying the plane is it not fly by wire
> during the duration of FMCS control?
>
> I mean in the broader sense of the phrase.


No, read my lips.



>
> obviously there seems parrallel control on the 757 rather than on
airbus
> which is full fly by wire as joystick goes to FMCS but on 757 it has
> both, and the FMCS unless turned off is always doing a bit of fly by
> wire....


It isn't parralell control. It's is a conventional mechanicla hydraulic
control system with a relatively sophisticated autopilot that flies the
airplane through that system, period.



Bertie
>

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On 3 Okt, 20:13, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> FriarTuck > wrote in news:22tFk.57446$yU7.27275
> @newsfe19.ams2:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:30:36 +0000, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
>
> >> wrote in news:e3141775-8cda-4759-bca5-85e8e24177d0
> >> @a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
>
> >>> On 3 Okt, 16:58, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> >>>> wrote in news:32b34de4-626c-4207-8fdb-
> 317988a61ee4
> >>>> @i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>
> >>>> > 1) Yes.
> >>>> > 2) Of course, That's how Cheney managed to remotely pilot one
> into
> >>>> > the Pentagon.
> >>>> > 3) No. The only FBW Boeing is the 777, the 757 uses conventional
> >>>> > cables and hydraulics.
>
> >>>> > Votes please...
>
> >>>> No
>
> >>>> Bertie
>
> >>> No, you refuse to vote or no the 757 is not FBW?
>
> >> It's not FBW
>
> >> Bertie
>
> > if the throttle control goes through an ecu (probably a plc) isn't it
> at
> > least partially fly by wire?
>
> Nope.
>
>
>
> > as there is no cable involved (since WWII probably when still thick
> wire
> > controls) and its all electro mechanical/hydraulic isn't it fly by
>
> wire?
>
> There is a cable, or else it would be FBW and I would have said so.
>
> Keep up.

Rotsa ruck...

>
>
>
> > as the FMCS is fully capable of flying the plane is it not fly by wire
> > during the duration of FMCS control?
>
> > I mean in the broader sense of the phrase.
>
> No, read my lips.
>
>
>
>
>
> > obviously there seems parrallel control on the 757 rather than on
> airbus
> > which is full fly by wire as joystick goes to FMCS but on 757 it has
> > both, and the FMCS unless turned off is always doing a bit of fly by
> > wire....
>
> It isn't parralell control. It's is a conventional mechanicla hydraulic
> control system with a relatively sophisticated autopilot that flies the
> airplane through that system, period.
>
> Bertie
>
>