Most Dangerous Time?

[Ol Shy & Bashful]

hat is the most dangerous time of any flight? On average, when should
a pilot be the most aware of what is going on? Gonna post this on
student forum too. Should be most interesting.
Ol SS aka Ol S&B (ol **** stirrer)
I hope we can steer this forum to a helpful and informative forum and
get away from the personal bull**** attacks.
Do you want to participate or just tagged as someone who doesn't know
their ass from a hole in the ground?
I really invite more participation by the pilots who are still low
time and need some good advice. There are a lot of people with lots of
diverse experience here to help out. I have no vested interest except
for that implied assist to those who ask for help?
As an assist ..when are you the most heavy? Lowest? Are you still in
the "GO" mode and ready to find yourself behind the events and the
aircraft?
Give it some thought and response.
Ol SS

[C J Campbell[_1_]]

On 2008-10-03 06:52:37 -0700, "Ol Shy & Bashful" > said:

> hat is the most dangerous time of any flight? On average, when should
> a pilot be the most aware of what is going on? Gonna post this on
> student forum too. Should be most interesting.
> Ol SS aka Ol S&B (ol **** stirrer)
> I hope we can steer this forum to a helpful and informative forum and
> get away from the personal bull**** attacks.
> Do you want to participate or just tagged as someone who doesn't know
> their ass from a hole in the ground?
> I really invite more participation by the pilots who are still low
> time and need some good advice. There are a lot of people with lots of
> diverse experience here to help out. I have no vested interest except
> for that implied assist to those who ask for help?
> As an assist ..when are you the most heavy? Lowest? Are you still in
> the "GO" mode and ready to find yourself behind the events and the
> aircraft?
> Give it some thought and response.
> Ol SS

Ah, the old "guess what I'm thinking" question, is it? ;-)

You know, in order to answer your question I decided to reverse your
question. When is it okay for a pilot not to be aware of what is going
on? And I started with initial planning for the trip down to walking in
your door at home.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

[Gene Seibel]

On Oct 3, 7:52*am, "Ol Shy & Bashful" > wrote:
> hat is the most dangerous time of any flight? On average, when should
> a pilot be the most aware of what is going on? Gonna post this on
> student forum too. Should be most interesting.
> Ol SS aka Ol S&B (ol **** stirrer)
> I hope we can steer this forum to a helpful and informative forum and
> get away from the personal bull**** attacks.
> Do you want to participate or just tagged as someone who doesn't know
> their ass from a hole in the ground?
> I really invite more participation by the pilots who are still low
> time and need some good advice. There are a lot of people with lots of
> diverse experience here to help out. I have no vested interest except
> for that implied assist to those who ask for help?
> As an assist ..when are you the most heavy? Lowest? Are you still in
> the "GO" mode and ready to find yourself behind the events and the
> aircraft?
> Give it some thought and response.
> Ol SS

When in the vicinity of a solid object, be it another airplane or the
ground.
--
Gene Seibel
Tales of flight - http://pad39a.com/gene/tales.html
Because we fly, we envy no one.

[Mike]

"Ol Shy & Bashful" > wrote in message
...
> hat is the most dangerous time of any flight?

Statistically takeoffs and landings are the most dangerous as they account
for about half of all fatal accidents. Further breaking it down, takeoffs
are far more dangerous than landings (again going by statistics).

However if you were able to filter out those smart fellers who fly
overloaded aircraft on hot days, I suspect the numbers wouldn't look nearly
so grim.

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

"Ol Shy & Bashful" > wrote in news:adf73a6c-2c43-4263-
:

> hat is the most dangerous time of any flight?

Depends on the flight... It's a bit "how long is a piece of string"....


In a single, though, I'm always most unconfortable on takeoff on a short
strip with not a lot of options in front of me.



Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_28_]]

Nomen Nescio > wrote in
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> - From my experience, I would say that the most dangerous time
> is the first 10 seconds after something totally unexpected
> happens.


What, like when you drop your crack pipe in the flammable upholstey of your
1973 Dodge Dart?


Bertie

[Lou]

On Oct 3, 1:15 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> Nomen Nescio > wrote :
>
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> > - From my experience, I would say that the most dangerous time
> > is the first 10 seconds after something totally unexpected
> > happens.
>
> What, like when you drop your crack pipe in the flammable upholstey of your
> 1973 Dodge Dart?
>
> Bertie

It was a Nova not a dart.
Lou

[Ol Shy & Bashful]

On Oct 3, 1:15*pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> Nomen Nescio > wrote :
>
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>
> > - From my experience, I would say that the most dangerous time
> > is the first 10 seconds after something totally unexpected
> > happens.
>
> What, like when you drop your crack pipe in the flammable upholstey of your
> 1973 Dodge Dart?
>
> Bertie

Well, so much for serious discussions....

[Ol Shy & Bashful]

On Oct 3, 2:58*pm, Lou > wrote:
> On Oct 3, 1:15 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>
> > Nomen Nescio > wrote :
>
> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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> > > - From my experience, I would say that the most dangerous time
> > > is the first 10 seconds after something totally unexpected
> > > happens.
>
> > What, like when you drop your crack pipe in the flammable upholstey of your
> > 1973 Dodge Dart?
>
> > Bertie
>
> It was a Nova not a dart.
> * * * * *Lou

And ditto for serious discussions.

[Gezellig]

On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 07:03:31 -0700, C J Campbell wrote:

> When is it okay for a pilot not to be aware of what is going
> on? And I started with initial planning for the trip down to walking in
> your door at home.

Never.

[JGalban via AviationKB.com]

Mike wrote:
>> hat is the most dangerous time of any flight?
>
>Statistically takeoffs and landings are the most dangerous as they account
>for about half of all fatal accidents. Further breaking it down, takeoffs
>are far more dangerous than landings (again going by statistics).

Depends on the definition of "dangerous". If it's serious injury or
fatality, I think you're probably right. If it's the possibility of an
accident or incident, then I think landings take the prize. There are more
landing accidents than takeoff accidents, but accidents during the takeoff
phase tend to have more serious consequenses.

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

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[Tman]

C J Campbell wrote:

>
> You know, in order to answer your question I decided to reverse your
> question. When is it okay for a pilot not to be aware of what is going
> on? And I started with initial planning for the trip down to walking in
> your door at home.
>

... only OK when hypoxic.

[Mike]

"JGalban via AviationKB.com" <u32749@uwe> wrote in message
news:8b2238b3ef431@uwe...
> Mike wrote:
>>> hat is the most dangerous time of any flight?
>>
>>Statistically takeoffs and landings are the most dangerous as they account
>>for about half of all fatal accidents. Further breaking it down, takeoffs
>>are far more dangerous than landings (again going by statistics).
>
> Depends on the definition of "dangerous". If it's serious injury or
> fatality, I think you're probably right.

How else would you define it?

[Wizard of Draws[_5_]]

On 10/3/08 9:52 AM, in article
, "Ol Shy &
Bashful" > wrote:

> hat is the most dangerous time of any flight? On average, when should
> a pilot be the most aware of what is going on? Gonna post this on
> student forum too. Should be most interesting.
> Ol SS aka Ol S&B (ol **** stirrer)
> I hope we can steer this forum to a helpful and informative forum and
> get away from the personal bull**** attacks.
> Do you want to participate or just tagged as someone who doesn't know
> their ass from a hole in the ground?
> I really invite more participation by the pilots who are still low
> time and need some good advice. There are a lot of people with lots of
> diverse experience here to help out. I have no vested interest except
> for that implied assist to those who ask for help?
> As an assist ..when are you the most heavy? Lowest? Are you still in
> the "GO" mode and ready to find yourself behind the events and the
> aircraft?
> Give it some thought and response.
> Ol SS

Anytime there is a transition of any sort.
--
Jeff 'The Wizard of Draws' Bucchino
Cartoons with a Touch of Magic �

http://www.wizardofdraws.com
http://www.cartoonclipart.com

[C J Campbell[_1_]]

On 2008-10-03 15:43:37 -0700, Tman <x@x> said:

> C J Campbell wrote:
>
>>
>> You know, in order to answer your question I decided to reverse your
>> question. When is it okay for a pilot not to be aware of what is going
>> on? And I started with initial planning for the trip down to walking in
>> your door at home.
>>
>
> .. only OK when hypoxic.

LOL. However, I am not into self-induced hypoxia. I don't drink.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

[Bertie the Bunyip[_28_]]

Lou > wrote in
:

> On Oct 3, 1:15 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> Nomen Nescio > wrote
>> :
>>
>> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>
>> > - From my experience, I would say that the most dangerous time
>> > is the first 10 seconds after something totally unexpected
>> > happens.
>>
>> What, like when you drop your crack pipe in the flammable upholstey
>> of your 1973 Dodge Dart?
>>
>> Bertie
>
> It was a Nova not a dart.

Ah, OK


Sure it wasn't a MAverick?

Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_28_]]

"Ol Shy & Bashful" > wrote in
:

> On Oct 3, 1:15*pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> Nomen Nescio > wrote
>> innews:7d16081c09c8dca009e2f319614b
> :
>>
>> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>
>> > - From my experience, I would say that the most dangerous time
>> > is the first 10 seconds after something totally unexpected
>> > happens.
>>
>> What, like when you drop your crack pipe in the flammable upholstey
>> of yo
> ur
>> 1973 Dodge Dart?
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Well, so much for serious discussions....
>

What you don't think havng a crack pipe set fire to your Dart is serious?

ou would if you were coming the opposite direction and JJ was there coming
towards trying to pee on the fire and only making it worse.

Bertie

[Stealth Pilot[_2_]]

On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 06:52:37 -0700 (PDT), "Ol Shy & Bashful"
> wrote:

>hat is the most dangerous time of any flight? On average, when should
>a pilot be the most aware of what is going on? Gonna post this on
>student forum too. Should be most interesting.
>Ol SS aka Ol S&B (ol **** stirrer)
>I hope we can steer this forum to a helpful and informative forum and
>get away from the personal bull**** attacks.
>Do you want to participate or just tagged as someone who doesn't know
>their ass from a hole in the ground?
>I really invite more participation by the pilots who are still low
>time and need some good advice. There are a lot of people with lots of
>diverse experience here to help out. I have no vested interest except
>for that implied assist to those who ask for help?
>As an assist ..when are you the most heavy? Lowest? Are you still in
>the "GO" mode and ready to find yourself behind the events and the
>aircraft?
>Give it some thought and response.
>Ol SS

the most dangerous time on any flight is the short period after any or
all of the following:
-the mechanical failure,
-the fuel starvation becomes evident,
-the weather clags in around you,
-cumulo granite approaches,
-you run into another aircraft,
-you realise that that last missed opportunity really was the very
last chance you had of coming out of the situation alive.

every flight is different and there is no one most dangerous time.
you can fly hundreds of miles through the most attrocious weather only
to come unstuck in a crosswind landing because your bladder was so
full and so painful that you lost fine motor movement in your feet
just when you needed the dab kick on the rudder.

why when did you think it was?
Stealth Pilot

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

Stealth Pilot > wrote in
:

> On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 06:52:37 -0700 (PDT), "Ol Shy & Bashful"
> > wrote:
>
>>hat is the most dangerous time of any flight? On average, when should
>>a pilot be the most aware of what is going on? Gonna post this on
>>student forum too. Should be most interesting.
>>Ol SS aka Ol S&B (ol **** stirrer)
>>I hope we can steer this forum to a helpful and informative forum and
>>get away from the personal bull**** attacks.
>>Do you want to participate or just tagged as someone who doesn't know
>>their ass from a hole in the ground?
>>I really invite more participation by the pilots who are still low
>>time and need some good advice. There are a lot of people with lots of
>>diverse experience here to help out. I have no vested interest except
>>for that implied assist to those who ask for help?
>>As an assist ..when are you the most heavy? Lowest? Are you still in
>>the "GO" mode and ready to find yourself behind the events and the
>>aircraft?
>>Give it some thought and response.
>>Ol SS
>
> the most dangerous time on any flight is the short period after any or
> all of the following:
> -the mechanical failure,
> -the fuel starvation becomes evident,
> -the weather clags in around you,
> -cumulo granite approaches,
> -you run into another aircraft,
> -you realise that that last missed opportunity really was the very
> last chance you had of coming out of the situation alive.

Actually, the last makes all the others redundant.


Bertie