P-3 DOWN

[SKUNK WORKS]

KABUL, Afghanistan - The U.S. military says that a U.S. Navy patrol plane
overshot the runway at an airfield in Afghanistan and was destroyed.

A crew member broke an ankle, but the rest of the crew survived the Tuesday
crash. The military's statement does not give further details on who was
onboard the aircraft.

The statement says a Navy P-3 Orion airplane sustained "serious structural
and fire damage" at Bagram Airfield, the main U.S. military base north of
Kabul.

The military says it is investigating the accident.


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[Alan Erskine[_3_]]

"SKUNK WORKS" > wrote in message
...
> KABUL, Afghanistan - The U.S. military says that a U.S. Navy patrol plane
> overshot the runway at an airfield in Afghanistan and was destroyed.

Why was a P-3 in a land-locked country?

[John Szalay]

"Alan Erskine" > wrote in
:

> "SKUNK WORKS" > wrote in message
> ...
>> KABUL, Afghanistan - The U.S. military says that a U.S. Navy patrol
>> plane overshot the runway at an airfield in Afghanistan and was
>> destroyed.
>
> Why was a P-3 in a land-locked country?
>
>
>

Just guessing..for lack of futher data..

Most likly an EP-3E ARIES [Airborne Reconnaissance Integrated Electronics
System] bird..

[hielan' laddie]

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:54:47 -0400, Alan Erskine wrote
(in article >):

> "SKUNK WORKS" > wrote in message
> ...
>> KABUL, Afghanistan - The U.S. military says that a U.S. Navy patrol plane
>> overshot the runway at an airfield in Afghanistan and was destroyed.
>
> Why was a P-3 in a land-locked country?
>
>

Anyone can find subs out in the ocean. It takes real skill to find 'em up in
the mountains.

That, or maybe, just maybe, that was an EP-3 of some kind. Which might be why
no-one wants to say anything about who was aboard or what it was doing.

BTW, Alan-me-lad... have you reported my 'forged' headers to Newsguy yet?

Didn't think so.

[Maple1]

Alan Erskine wrote:

> "SKUNK WORKS" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>KABUL, Afghanistan - The U.S. military says that a U.S. Navy patrol plane
>>overshot the runway at an airfield in Afghanistan and was destroyed.
>
>
> Why was a P-3 in a land-locked country?
>
>
Best Aircraft for the job.

[Bruce R]

"Alan Erskine" > wrote in message
...
> "SKUNK WORKS" > wrote in message
> ...
>> KABUL, Afghanistan - The U.S. military says that a U.S. Navy patrol plane
>> overshot the runway at an airfield in Afghanistan and was destroyed.
>
> Why was a P-3 in a land-locked country?
>

Well it is a land based patrol a/c, and if you don't have an AWAC handy, the
P-3 can do moderately ok. Of course the sonarbouys can be used and downward
firing projectiles if insurgents are found............<bg>


Bruce

[Wayne Paul]

"Maple1" > wrote in message
...
> Alan Erskine wrote:
>
>> "SKUNK WORKS" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>KABUL, Afghanistan - The U.S. military says that a U.S. Navy patrol plane
>>>overshot the runway at an airfield in Afghanistan and was destroyed.
>>
>>
>> Why was a P-3 in a land-locked country?
> Best Aircraft for the job.

The press is known for misidentifying aircraft types. The P-3 many have
been an EP-3.
http://vq-1.ahf.nmci.navy.mil/history.htm
http://rota.navy.mil/vq2/History.htm

Wayne
http://www.soaridaho.com/

[Dave Kearton]

"Wayne Paul" > wrote in message
m...


> The press is known for misidentifying aircraft types. The P-3 many have
> been an EP-3.

> Wayne
> http://www.soaridaho.com/



The RAAF have also based a couple of P-3s there for the last year or so,
from 10 Sqn I believe. There are AP-3Cs, which are your common or
garden variety sub-chaser with a few more antennae with fox tails.


AIUI, they perform electronic surveillance and signal gathering functions.
This sort of thing isn't new, I read in a squadron history (no cite unforch)
during the Vietnam war, 10 Sqn Neptunes out of Butterworth in Malaysia would
patrol northwards over Thailand to detect SAM launches over NVN.


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[Alan Erskine[_3_]]

"John Szalay" > wrote in message
42...
> "Alan Erskine" > wrote in
> :
>> Why was a P-3 in a land-locked country?
>
> Just guessing..for lack of futher data..
>
> Most likly an EP-3E ARIES [Airborne Reconnaissance Integrated
> Electronics
> System] bird..

Ahhh... That would explain it.

[John Szalay]

"Alan Erskine" > wrote in news:AkvLk.7526$sc2.987@
>> Just guessing..for lack of futher data..
>>
>> Most likly an EP-3E ARIES [Airborne Reconnaissance Integrated
>> Electronics
>> System] bird..
>
> Ahhh... That would explain it.
>
>
>

More:
appears it MAY BE a P-3C of Recon Wing 5, ( VP-8, VP-10 or VP-26 )

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/navy/patreconwing5.htm
================================================== =========================
=
BRUNSWICK ME,— For the first time in more than 30 years, a Brunswick Naval
Air Station-based plane crashed Tuesday, as a P-3 Orion missed a runway in
Afghanistan and was destroyed.

There were no fatalities in the crash, and only one crew member suffered a
minor injury.

John James, public affairs Officer at the Brunswick base, said Tuesday he
couldn't divulge which patrol squadron the plane belonged to, nor the name
of the crew member who was injured.

"It was a Wing 5 aircraft deployed to Bagram in support of Operation
Enduring Freedom," James told The Times Record. "The aircraft overshot the
runway at Bagram Airfield. The right main landing gear collapsed and both
right engines then caught fire. The Bagram Airfield fire department
responded immediately and distinguished the fire.

"All of the crew exited the left side of the airplane and there was only
one minor injury, which was a sprained ankle," he continued.

An American Forces Press Service report from Afghanistan claims that the
injured crew member was treated at Craig Joint Theater Hospital at the
Bagram location. The report also said the crash is still under
investigation.

[Gary Anderson]

John Szalay > wrote in
42:

> "Alan Erskine" > wrote in
> news:AkvLk.7526$sc2.987@
>>> Just guessing..for lack of futher data..
>>>
>>> Most likly an EP-3E ARIES [Airborne Reconnaissance Integrated
>>> Electronics
>>> System] bird..
>>
>> Ahhh... That would explain it.
>>
>>
>>
>
> More:
> appears it MAY BE a P-3C of Recon Wing 5, ( VP-8, VP-10 or VP-26 )
>
> http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/navy/patreconwing5.htm
> ================================================== ====================
=
> ==== =
> BRUNSWICK ME,— For the first time in more than 30 years, a Brunswick
> Naval Air Station-based plane crashed Tuesday, as a P-3 Orion missed a
> runway in Afghanistan and was destroyed.
>
> There were no fatalities in the crash, and only one crew member
> suffered a minor injury.
>
> John James, public affairs Officer at the Brunswick base, said Tuesday
> he couldn't divulge which patrol squadron the plane belonged to, nor
> the name of the crew member who was injured.
>
> "It was a Wing 5 aircraft deployed to Bagram in support of Operation
> Enduring Freedom," James told The Times Record. "The aircraft overshot
> the runway at Bagram Airfield. The right main landing gear collapsed
> and both right engines then caught fire. The Bagram Airfield fire
> department responded immediately and distinguished the fire.
>
> "All of the crew exited the left side of the airplane and there was
> only one minor injury, which was a sprained ankle," he continued.
>
> An American Forces Press Service report from Afghanistan claims that
> the injured crew member was treated at Craig Joint Theater Hospital at
> the Bagram location. The report also said the crash is still under
> investigation.


Wait a minute. Did the article actually say this:

"The Bagram Airfield fire department responded immediately and
distinguished the fire."

Distinguished?!! I wonder who is handling editing up in Maine these
days.

Sure glad the crew got out okay from such a distinguished crash.

Gary Anderson

[John Szalay]

Gary Anderson > wrote in n
> "The Bagram Airfield fire department responded immediately and
> distinguished the fire."
>
> Distinguished?!! I wonder who is handling editing up in Maine these
> days.
>
> Sure glad the crew got out okay from such a distinguished crash.
>
> Gary Anderson
>

Cut and paste right from the article,

I don't write em!

[Thomas A. Hoffer]

>>> Why was a P-3 in a land-locked country?
>> Best Aircraft for the job.
>
> The press is known for misidentifying aircraft types. The P-3 many have
> been an EP-3.

Actually, the planes are from Brunswick therefore it was not an ARIES Orion.
The NASB public affairs spokesperson was vague on which squadron owned the
plane. One of two scenarios could be the case.

First possibility is a P3C Anti-Surface Warfare Improvement Program (AIP)
aircraft belonging to either VP 8, 10 or 26. This new mission is one of the
reasons the name of the wing was changed from simply "patrol wing" to
"patrol and reconnaissance wing" in the mid-nineties. The other possibility,
and might explain why no mention of the squadron is the plane belongs to
VPU-1, a special patrol projects unit homeported at Brunswick the Navy
prefers to acknowledge as little as possible.