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Maple1
October 23rd 08, 05:07 AM
200 more photos have been posted on my site

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Bill

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Jacques[_2_]
October 24th 08, 12:57 AM
How come?

How come a tail hook on an aircraft that has never seen a carrier?

Is Canada holding out here? does it have a super-secret carrier that no one
knows about?

Please help!

Thanks much

Jacques
"Maple1" > wrote in message
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Andrew Chaplin
October 24th 08, 02:47 AM
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"Jacques" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Maple1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> 200 more photos have been posted on my site
>>
>> Enjoy
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> http://www.aerophotointernational.com
>>
> How come?
>
> How come a tail hook on an aircraft that has never seen a carrier?
>
> Is Canada holding out here? does it have a super-secret carrier that no one
> knows about?

No.

Look at CF-116 Freedom Fighters; they have hooks as well. The CF-188 has a
hook because arrestor systems are used on CF airfields in emergencies. (All
the same, the Ward Room in Halifax has a large display with the hooks of the
Seafire, the Sea Fury and Banshee. There is an open space for the next CF
carrier fighter.
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Bob
October 24th 08, 03:38 AM
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:47:02 -0400, "Andrew Chaplin"
> wrote:

>Top-posting "adjusted"
>
>"Jacques" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "Maple1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> 200 more photos have been posted on my site
>>>
>>> Enjoy
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> http://www.aerophotointernational.com
>>>
>> How come?
>>
>> How come a tail hook on an aircraft that has never seen a carrier?
>>
>> Is Canada holding out here? does it have a super-secret carrier that no one
>> knows about?
>
>No.
>
>Look at CF-116 Freedom Fighters; they have hooks as well. The CF-188 has a
>hook because arrestor systems are used on CF airfields in emergencies. (All
>the same, the Ward Room in Halifax has a large display with the hooks of the
>Seafire, the Sea Fury and Banshee. There is an open space for the next CF
>carrier fighter.

The F-18 is also a carrier based aircraft by design. I assume the
CF-188 tailhook is just the same hook as used by the US Navy? No
spendy redesign to save a little weight for runway arrestor use?

Maple1
October 24th 08, 04:17 AM
All fighters have a hook even the F-117a has a hook it is for Mobile and
field arrestor Gear... Safety first


This jet was testing the gear. The Pilot is Major Lee "Midas" Vogan. He
was the demo Pilot in 2001 This is the second time I photographed him
catching the Cable at an Airshow First time was Lethbridge in 2001. This
one was Lethbridge 2008.



Jacques wrote:

> How come?
>
> How come a tail hook on an aircraft that has never seen a carrier?
>
> Is Canada holding out here? does it have a super-secret carrier that no one
> knows about?
>
> Please help!
>
> Thanks much
>

> -----------------

John Crawford
October 24th 08, 07:59 AM
Mac air put tail hooks on all There fighters

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Andrew Chaplin
October 24th 08, 11:24 AM
"Bob" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:47:02 -0400, "Andrew Chaplin"
> > wrote:
>
>>Top-posting "adjusted"
>>
>>"Jacques" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>> "Maple1" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> 200 more photos have been posted on my site
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> http://www.aerophotointernational.com
>>>>
>>> How come?
>>>
>>> How come a tail hook on an aircraft that has never seen a carrier?
>>>
>>> Is Canada holding out here? does it have a super-secret carrier that no
>>> one
>>> knows about?
>>
>>No.
>>
>>Look at CF-116 Freedom Fighters; they have hooks as well. The CF-188 has a
>>hook because arrestor systems are used on CF airfields in emergencies. (All
>>the same, the Ward Room in Halifax has a large display with the hooks of the
>>Seafire, the Sea Fury and Banshee. There is an open space for the next CF
>>carrier fighter.
>
> The F-18 is also a carrier based aircraft by design. I assume the
> CF-188 tailhook is just the same hook as used by the US Navy? No
> spendy redesign to save a little weight for runway arrestor use?

I think they are carrier ready, but I do not know for sure. However, if it
were not for the airfield arrestor systems, the hook would likely have been
removed and stowed.
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Jacques[_2_]
October 24th 08, 01:11 PM
Thank you all.

How about that! I never thought that an arrestor cable was part of "safety
systems" at a Canadian air Base, especially where the CF-18 are located . .
..

Never saw one at CFB Trenton though . . .

Jacques


"Jacques" > wrote in message
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> How come?
>
> How come a tail hook on an aircraft that has never seen a carrier?
>
> Is Canada holding out here? does it have a super-secret carrier that no
> one knows about?
>
> Please help!
>
> Thanks much
>
> Jacques
> "Maple1" > wrote in message
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>>
>> Enjoy
>>
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Maple1
October 24th 08, 02:04 PM
Trenton is the home base for the Hornet Hookers They are the boys that
take care of the MAGS and they are deployed a lot.



Jacques wrote:
> Thank you all.
>
> How about that! I never thought that an arrestor cable was part of "safety
> systems" at a Canadian air Base, especially where the CF-18 are located . .
> .
>
> Never saw one at CFB Trenton though . . .
>
> Jacques
>
>
> "Jacques" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>How come?
>>
>>How come a tail hook on an aircraft that has never seen a carrier?
>>
>>Is Canada holding out here? does it have a super-secret carrier that no
>>one knows about?
>>
>>Please help!
>>
>>Thanks much
>>
>>Jacques
>>"Maple1" > wrote in message
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>>
>>>200 more photos have been posted on my site
>>>
>>>Enjoy
>>>
>>>Bill
>>>
>>>http://www.aerophotointernational.com
>>>
>>
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John Crawford
October 24th 08, 07:45 PM
During the overhaul of the star fighters at NWI, Edmonton. DND installed an
arrestor cable system at the international
airport. Thats were the star fighters were trucked to for wing install and
test flights. We would string the cable, and the
remove it after the A/C had landed.

--
John Crawford



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Jacques[_2_]
October 25th 08, 12:11 AM
Hornets in Trenton?


My, my! I have been out of touch . . .

In my day, there were only heavy transport Sqadrons (436, 437, 429 Trg Sqn
and an assortment of others), an AMU (or today, they are calling it 2nd
AMS) unit, of which I used to belong to . . .

There was also an engine repair Squadron located at the North end of the
Base (they made a lot of noise during run ups, especially with F104 engines
and the like).

Oh well . . .

Again, my thanks to you all


"Maple1" > wrote in message
...
> Trenton is the home base for the Hornet Hookers They are the boys that
> take care of the MAGS and they are deployed a lot.
>
>
>
> Jacques wrote:
>> Thank you all.
>>
>> How about that! I never thought that an arrestor cable was part of
>> "safety systems" at a Canadian air Base, especially where the CF-18 are
>> located . . .
>>
>> Never saw one at CFB Trenton though . . .
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>> "Jacques" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>How come?
>>>
>>>How come a tail hook on an aircraft that has never seen a carrier?
>>>
>>>Is Canada holding out here? does it have a super-secret carrier that no
>>>one knows about?
>>>
>>>Please help!
>>>
>>>Thanks much
>>>
>>>Jacques
>>>"Maple1" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>>200 more photos have been posted on my site
>>>>
>>>>Enjoy
>>>>
>>>>Bill
>>>>
>>>>http://www.aerophotointernational.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Laurie & Jacques
November 12th 08, 11:15 PM
Thank you sir.

I appreciate your time in answering my question.

Jacques

"Andrew Chaplin" > wrote in message
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> Top-posting "adjusted"
>
> "Jacques" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Maple1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> 200 more photos have been posted on my site
>>>
>>> Enjoy
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> http://www.aerophotointernational.com
>>>
>> How come?
>>
>> How come a tail hook on an aircraft that has never seen a carrier?
>>
>> Is Canada holding out here? does it have a super-secret carrier that no
>> one knows about?
>
> No.
>
> Look at CF-116 Freedom Fighters; they have hooks as well. The CF-188 has a
> hook because arrestor systems are used on CF airfields in emergencies.
> (All the same, the Ward Room in Halifax has a large display with the hooks
> of the Seafire, the Sea Fury and Banshee. There is an open space for the
> next CF carrier fighter.
> --
> Andrew Chaplin
> SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
> (If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)
>


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Daragon
January 7th 13, 06:56 AM
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:47:02 -0400, "Andrew Chaplin"
wrote:

Top-posting "adjusted"

"Jacques" wrote in message
...

"Maple1" wrote in message
...
200 more photos have been posted on my site

Enjoy

Bill

http://www.aerophotointernational.com

How come?

How come a tail hook on an aircraft that has never seen a carrier?

Is Canada holding out here? does it have a super-secret carrier that no one
knows about?

No.

Look at CF-116 Freedom Fighters; they have hooks as well. The CF-188 has a
hook because arrestor systems are used on CF airfields in emergencies. (All
the same, the Ward Room in Halifax has a large display with the hooks of the
Seafire, the Sea Fury and Banshee. There is an open space for the next CF
carrier fighter.

The F-18 is also a carrier based aircraft by design. I assume the
CF-188 tailhook is just the same hook as used by the US Navy? No
spendy redesign to save a little weight for runway arrestor use?



2013 January 07

From 1990 thru 1992 I wrote maintenance and flight manuals for the CF-18. As I (dimly) recall, the F-18 was a replacement for the US Navy F-14 Tomcat. Pilots loved the Tomcat, but its maintenance hours to flight hours were astronomical. The F-18 was designed around the Hughes radar in the nose and a primary design goal for the F-18 was Reliability/Maintainability. The F-18 was a Navy aircraft and all Navy aircraft have arrestor hooks. The CF-18s kept the arrestor hooks for two reasons: for emergencies as mentioned elsewhere, and for weight and balance. Both are key reasons to keep the arrestor hooks.

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