Garmin Exec Sadly Lost

[Thomas J. Giarmo]

http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1252-full.html#199198

[bealoid]

"Trowbridge H. Ford" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:20:14 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:18:52 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:11:07 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:56:22 -0500, Thomas J. Giarmo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1252-full.html#199198
>>>>
>>>> Mena is a hoax. But only some of fit. They did not shoot this guy
>>>> down
>>>> if that is what you mean(a) lol.
>>>>
>>>> Tatum and I agree that the CIA has been involved in the traffic in
>>>> cocaine....and other drugs. Everything I say is true, evidence of
>>>> significant government misconduct is known here. I have nuclear
>>>> warheads
>>>> regarding Mena.
>>>
>>> I have ignored William Bottoms for months, because my time is valuable
>>> and I don't like to waste it. However, he told audacious, outright
>>> lies about a conversation he had with Mark Keesee, who is also our
>>> webmaster. At first I resented being dragged into his disinformation
>>> campaign, but he apparently is not going to give it up.
>>>
>>> I really can't imagine why he's so worried about me. But if he wants
>>> dialogue, he's got it, at least for as long as I am amused with it.
>>>
>>> *Bottoms says:* I have made new revelations about the GREAT MENA HOAX.
>>> No attempt to verify my claims, it appears, has been made. A lot of
>>> attempts to silence and discredit me have been made. Why? Don't get
>>> me wrong, I am not being sensitive.
>>>
>>> *My response:* Well, of course, no attempts have been made to verify
>>> Bottoms. Anyone who launches a disinformation campaign should supply
>>> his own verification. And if he thinks anyone is trying to silence
>>> him, he is suffering from a case of paranoia. He is his own worst
>>> enemy; when he talks, he discredits himself. I'm not sure why Bottoms
>>> is opposed to being thought of as sensitive, I don't consider a drug
>>> smuggler to be the sensitive type.
>>
>> I couldn't have asked for a better response to my revelations. To
>> anyone with any intelligence, it should show that there is a:"COVER UP
>> THE MENA HOAX AT ANY COST CARTEL" running rampart on the internet, the
>> mediia (sic), and within our government.
>
> I personally don't concern myself with anyone who buys into Bottoms'
> "hoax" campaign. It is undeniable that Mena was part of Barry Seal's
> drug smuggling organization, and even if one accepts Bottoms'
> insistence that the drugs he and Seal smuggled were dropped before
> their planes landed at Mena, so what? Seal's planes would not have
> been able to make their drug-runs if the Mena operation hadn't done
> it's part to modify, repair, and house the planes. Without the
> operations at Mena, there would have been no drug-smuggling, so where
> does Bottoms get off trying to minimize the culpability of Mena? I do
> enjoy watching a fool, he continues to amuse.
>

Is this a drug thread?

[Bear Bottoms[_4_]]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:56:22 -0500, Thomas J. Giarmo wrote:

> http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1252-full.html#199198

Mena is a hoax. But only some of fit. They did not shoot this guy down
if that is what you mean(a) lol.

Tatum and I agree that the CIA has been involved in the traffic in
cocaine....and other drugs. Everything I say is true, evidence of
significant government misconduct is known here. I have nuclear warheads
regarding Mena.
--
website: http://bearware.com

[Trowbridge H. Ford]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:11:07 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:56:22 -0500, Thomas J. Giarmo wrote:
>
>> http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1252-full.html#199198
>
> Mena is a hoax. But only some of fit. They did not shoot this guy down
> if that is what you mean(a) lol.
>
> Tatum and I agree that the CIA has been involved in the traffic in
> cocaine....and other drugs. Everything I say is true, evidence of
> significant government misconduct is known here. I have nuclear warheads
> regarding Mena.

I have ignored William Bottoms for months, because my time is valuable
and I don't like to waste it. However, he told audacious, outright
lies about a conversation he had with Mark Keesee, who is also our
webmaster. At first I resented being dragged into his disinformation
campaign, but he apparently is not going to give it up.

I really can't imagine why he's so worried about me. But if he wants
dialogue, he's got it, at least for as long as I am amused with it.

*Bottoms says:* I have made new revelations about the GREAT MENA HOAX.
No attempt to verify my claims, it appears, has been made. A lot of
attempts to silence and discredit me have been made. Why? Don't get
me wrong, I am not being sensitive.

*My response:* Well, of course, no attempts have been made to verify
Bottoms. Anyone who launches a disinformation campaign should supply
his own verification. And if he thinks anyone is trying to silence
him, he is suffering from a case of paranoia. He is his own worst
enemy; when he talks, he discredits himself. I'm not sure why Bottoms
is opposed to being thought of as sensitive, I don't consider a drug
smuggler to be the sensitive type.

--
http://cod****.blogspot.com/

[Bear Bottoms[_4_]]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:18:52 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:11:07 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:56:22 -0500, Thomas J. Giarmo wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1252-full.html#199198
>>
>> Mena is a hoax. But only some of fit. They did not shoot this guy down
>> if that is what you mean(a) lol.
>>
>> Tatum and I agree that the CIA has been involved in the traffic in
>> cocaine....and other drugs. Everything I say is true, evidence of
>> significant government misconduct is known here. I have nuclear warheads
>> regarding Mena.
>
> I have ignored William Bottoms for months, because my time is valuable
> and I don't like to waste it. However, he told audacious, outright
> lies about a conversation he had with Mark Keesee, who is also our
> webmaster. At first I resented being dragged into his disinformation
> campaign, but he apparently is not going to give it up.
>
> I really can't imagine why he's so worried about me. But if he wants
> dialogue, he's got it, at least for as long as I am amused with it.
>
> *Bottoms says:* I have made new revelations about the GREAT MENA HOAX.
> No attempt to verify my claims, it appears, has been made. A lot of
> attempts to silence and discredit me have been made. Why? Don't get
> me wrong, I am not being sensitive.
>
> *My response:* Well, of course, no attempts have been made to verify
> Bottoms. Anyone who launches a disinformation campaign should supply
> his own verification. And if he thinks anyone is trying to silence
> him, he is suffering from a case of paranoia. He is his own worst
> enemy; when he talks, he discredits himself. I'm not sure why Bottoms
> is opposed to being thought of as sensitive, I don't consider a drug
> smuggler to be the sensitive type.

I couldn't have asked for a better response to my revelations. To
anyone with any intelligence, it should show that there is a:"COVER UP
THE MENA HOAX AT ANY COST CARTEL" running rampart on the internet, the
mediia (sic), and within our government.

--
Bear Bottoms
website: http://bearware.com

[Trowbridge H. Ford]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:20:14 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:18:52 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:11:07 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:56:22 -0500, Thomas J. Giarmo wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1252-full.html#199198
>>>
>>> Mena is a hoax. But only some of fit. They did not shoot this guy down
>>> if that is what you mean(a) lol.
>>>
>>> Tatum and I agree that the CIA has been involved in the traffic in
>>> cocaine....and other drugs. Everything I say is true, evidence of
>>> significant government misconduct is known here. I have nuclear warheads
>>> regarding Mena.
>>
>> I have ignored William Bottoms for months, because my time is valuable
>> and I don't like to waste it. However, he told audacious, outright
>> lies about a conversation he had with Mark Keesee, who is also our
>> webmaster. At first I resented being dragged into his disinformation
>> campaign, but he apparently is not going to give it up.
>>
>> I really can't imagine why he's so worried about me. But if he wants
>> dialogue, he's got it, at least for as long as I am amused with it.
>>
>> *Bottoms says:* I have made new revelations about the GREAT MENA HOAX.
>> No attempt to verify my claims, it appears, has been made. A lot of
>> attempts to silence and discredit me have been made. Why? Don't get
>> me wrong, I am not being sensitive.
>>
>> *My response:* Well, of course, no attempts have been made to verify
>> Bottoms. Anyone who launches a disinformation campaign should supply
>> his own verification. And if he thinks anyone is trying to silence
>> him, he is suffering from a case of paranoia. He is his own worst
>> enemy; when he talks, he discredits himself. I'm not sure why Bottoms
>> is opposed to being thought of as sensitive, I don't consider a drug
>> smuggler to be the sensitive type.
>
> I couldn't have asked for a better response to my revelations. To
> anyone with any intelligence, it should show that there is a:"COVER UP
> THE MENA HOAX AT ANY COST CARTEL" running rampart on the internet, the
> mediia (sic), and within our government.

I personally don't concern myself with anyone who buys into Bottoms'
"hoax" campaign. It is undeniable that Mena was part of Barry Seal's
drug smuggling organization, and even if one accepts Bottoms'
insistence that the drugs he and Seal smuggled were dropped before
their planes landed at Mena, so what? Seal's planes would not have
been able to make their drug-runs if the Mena operation hadn't done
it's part to modify, repair, and house the planes. Without the
operations at Mena, there would have been no drug-smuggling, so where
does Bottoms get off trying to minimize the culpability of Mena? I do
enjoy watching a fool, he continues to amuse.

--
http://cod****.blogspot.com/

[Bear Bottoms[_4_]]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:21:50 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:20:14 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:18:52 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:11:07 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:56:22 -0500, Thomas J. Giarmo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1252-full.html#199198
>>>>
>>>> Mena is a hoax. But only some of fit. They did not shoot this guy down
>>>> if that is what you mean(a) lol.
>>>>
>>>> Tatum and I agree that the CIA has been involved in the traffic in
>>>> cocaine....and other drugs. Everything I say is true, evidence of
>>>> significant government misconduct is known here. I have nuclear warheads
>>>> regarding Mena.
>>>
>>> I have ignored William Bottoms for months, because my time is valuable
>>> and I don't like to waste it. However, he told audacious, outright
>>> lies about a conversation he had with Mark Keesee, who is also our
>>> webmaster. At first I resented being dragged into his disinformation
>>> campaign, but he apparently is not going to give it up.
>>>
>>> I really can't imagine why he's so worried about me. But if he wants
>>> dialogue, he's got it, at least for as long as I am amused with it.
>>>
>>> *Bottoms says:* I have made new revelations about the GREAT MENA HOAX.
>>> No attempt to verify my claims, it appears, has been made. A lot of
>>> attempts to silence and discredit me have been made. Why? Don't get
>>> me wrong, I am not being sensitive.
>>>
>>> *My response:* Well, of course, no attempts have been made to verify
>>> Bottoms. Anyone who launches a disinformation campaign should supply
>>> his own verification. And if he thinks anyone is trying to silence
>>> him, he is suffering from a case of paranoia. He is his own worst
>>> enemy; when he talks, he discredits himself. I'm not sure why Bottoms
>>> is opposed to being thought of as sensitive, I don't consider a drug
>>> smuggler to be the sensitive type.
>>
>> I couldn't have asked for a better response to my revelations. To
>> anyone with any intelligence, it should show that there is a:"COVER UP
>> THE MENA HOAX AT ANY COST CARTEL" running rampart on the internet, the
>> mediia (sic), and within our government.
>
> I personally don't concern myself with anyone who buys into Bottoms'
> "hoax" campaign. It is undeniable that Mena was part of Barry Seal's
> drug smuggling organization, and even if one accepts Bottoms'
> insistence that the drugs he and Seal smuggled were dropped before
> their planes landed at Mena, so what? Seal's planes would not have
> been able to make their drug-runs if the Mena operation hadn't done
> it's part to modify, repair, and house the planes. Without the
> operations at Mena, there would have been no drug-smuggling, so where
> does Bottoms get off trying to minimize the culpability of Mena? I do
> enjoy watching a fool, he continues to amuse.

It is very easy to prove that I am who I say I am. I have been coy on
Usenet for a purpose. That coy is my knowing not yours.

It is very easy to prove that my revelations are true. Too easy in
fact. Why hasn't that been attempted?
--
Bear Bottoms
website: http://bearware.com

[Trowbridge H. Ford]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:24:05 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:

>>> I couldn't have asked for a better response to my revelations. To
>>> anyone with any intelligence, it should show that there is a:"COVER UP
>>> THE MENA HOAX AT ANY COST CARTEL" running rampart on the internet, the
>>> mediia (sic), and within our government.
>>
>> I personally don't concern myself with anyone who buys into Bottoms'
>> "hoax" campaign. It is undeniable that Mena was part of Barry Seal's
>> drug smuggling organization, and even if one accepts Bottoms'
>> insistence that the drugs he and Seal smuggled were dropped before
>> their planes landed at Mena, so what? Seal's planes would not have
>> been able to make their drug-runs if the Mena operation hadn't done
>> it's part to modify, repair, and house the planes. Without the
>> operations at Mena, there would have been no drug-smuggling, so where
>> does Bottoms get off trying to minimize the culpability of Mena? I do
>> enjoy watching a fool, he continues to amuse.
>
> It is very easy to prove that I am who I say I am. I have been coy on
> Usenet for a purpose. That coy is my knowing not yours.
>
> It is very easy to prove that my revelations are true. Too easy in
> fact. Why hasn't that been attempted?

I believe Bottoms is exactly who he says he is; that's the most
influential problem I have with him. He's a confessed drug smuggler
who doesn't appear to feel much remorse for his crimes.
--
http://cod****.blogspot.com/

[Thomas J. Giarmo]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:26:00 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:24:05 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>
>>>> I couldn't have asked for a better response to my revelations. To
>>>> anyone with any intelligence, it should show that there is a:"COVER UP
>>>> THE MENA HOAX AT ANY COST CARTEL" running rampart on the internet, the
>>>> mediia (sic), and within our government.
>>>
>>> I personally don't concern myself with anyone who buys into Bottoms'
>>> "hoax" campaign. It is undeniable that Mena was part of Barry Seal's
>>> drug smuggling organization, and even if one accepts Bottoms'
>>> insistence that the drugs he and Seal smuggled were dropped before
>>> their planes landed at Mena, so what? Seal's planes would not have
>>> been able to make their drug-runs if the Mena operation hadn't done
>>> it's part to modify, repair, and house the planes. Without the
>>> operations at Mena, there would have been no drug-smuggling, so where
>>> does Bottoms get off trying to minimize the culpability of Mena? I do
>>> enjoy watching a fool, he continues to amuse.
>>
>> It is very easy to prove that I am who I say I am. I have been coy on
>> Usenet for a purpose. That coy is my knowing not yours.
>>
>> It is very easy to prove that my revelations are true. Too easy in
>> fact. Why hasn't that been attempted?
>
> I believe Bottoms is exactly who he says he is; that's the most
> influential problem I have with him. He's a confessed drug smuggler
> who doesn't appear to feel much remorse for his crimes.

I never claimed that the CIA or anyone else shotdown this man Sheesh!
--
Similar to time and space, mind and phenomena are inseparable. Only
through ignorance, naturally, that mind and matters are perceived
separate, and differentiated from an integrated whole.This is the
ecstasy of meditation." And it beats jacking off ~ Rexsy

[Steve Smith]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:26:00 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:24:05 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>
>>>> I couldn't have asked for a better response to my revelations. To
>>>> anyone with any intelligence, it should show that there is a:"COVER UP
>>>> THE MENA HOAX AT ANY COST CARTEL" running rampart on the internet, the
>>>> mediia (sic), and within our government.
>>>
>>> I personally don't concern myself with anyone who buys into Bottoms'
>>> "hoax" campaign. It is undeniable that Mena was part of Barry Seal's
>>> drug smuggling organization, and even if one accepts Bottoms'
>>> insistence that the drugs he and Seal smuggled were dropped before
>>> their planes landed at Mena, so what? Seal's planes would not have
>>> been able to make their drug-runs if the Mena operation hadn't done
>>> it's part to modify, repair, and house the planes. Without the
>>> operations at Mena, there would have been no drug-smuggling, so where
>>> does Bottoms get off trying to minimize the culpability of Mena? I do
>>> enjoy watching a fool, he continues to amuse.
>>
>> It is very easy to prove that I am who I say I am. I have been coy on
>> Usenet for a purpose. That coy is my knowing not yours.
>>
>> It is very easy to prove that my revelations are true. Too easy in
>> fact. Why hasn't that been attempted?
>
> I believe Bottoms is exactly who he says he is; that's the most
> influential problem I have with him. He's a confessed drug smuggler
> who doesn't appear to feel much remorse for his crimes.

Asking admitted drug smuggler "Bear Bottoms" is there's smuggling in
Mena is like asking Jeffrey Dahmer if there are cannibals in Milaukee.

One should not expect an honest answer.

Bear claims to be a drug pilot who just decided one day to cooperate
with authorities and run stings for the DEA, forgetting for a moment
that this same career move is what got Barry Seal killed (and I note
Mr. Bottoms continued good health and ability to walk around without
fear of rapidly moving metal projectiles)
--
Trolls Are Attracted To Idiots; Idiots Respond to Trolls

[Bear Bottoms[_4_]]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:26:00 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:24:05 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>
>>>> I couldn't have asked for a better response to my revelations. To
>>>> anyone with any intelligence, it should show that there is a:"COVER UP
>>>> THE MENA HOAX AT ANY COST CARTEL" running rampart on the internet, the
>>>> mediia (sic), and within our government.
>>>
>>> I personally don't concern myself with anyone who buys into Bottoms'
>>> "hoax" campaign. It is undeniable that Mena was part of Barry Seal's
>>> drug smuggling organization, and even if one accepts Bottoms'
>>> insistence that the drugs he and Seal smuggled were dropped before
>>> their planes landed at Mena, so what? Seal's planes would not have
>>> been able to make their drug-runs if the Mena operation hadn't done
>>> it's part to modify, repair, and house the planes. Without the
>>> operations at Mena, there would have been no drug-smuggling, so where
>>> does Bottoms get off trying to minimize the culpability of Mena? I do
>>> enjoy watching a fool, he continues to amuse.
>>
>> It is very easy to prove that I am who I say I am. I have been coy on
>> Usenet for a purpose. That coy is my knowing not yours.
>>
>> It is very easy to prove that my revelations are true. Too easy in
>> fact. Why hasn't that been attempted?
>
> I believe Bottoms is exactly who he says he is; that's the most
> influential problem I have with him. He's a confessed drug smuggler
> who doesn't appear to feel much remorse for his crimes.

I remember every pilot I ever flew a covert mission with. A bond is
established through the adrenalin of the event. I took over 30 major
flights. You are a troll, a denigrator, and know nothing of what you
talk. I do.

--
Bear Bottoms
website: http://bearware.com

[Trowbridge H. Ford]

>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:24:05 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:

>>> It is very easy to prove that I am who I say I am. I have been coy on
>>> Usenet for a purpose. That coy is my knowing not yours.
>>>
>>> It is very easy to prove that my revelations are true. Too easy in
>>> fact. Why hasn't that been attempted?
>>
>> I believe Bottoms is exactly who he says he is; that's the most
>> influential problem I have with him. He's a confessed drug smuggler
>> who doesn't appear to feel much remorse for his crimes.
>
> Asking admitted drug smuggler "Bear Bottoms" is there's smuggling in
> Mena is like asking Jeffrey Dahmer if there are cannibals in Milaukee.
>
> One should not expect an honest answer.
>
> Bear claims to be a drug pilot who just decided one day to cooperate
> with authorities and run stings for the DEA, forgetting for a moment
> that this same career move is what got Barry Seal killed (and I note
> Mr. Bottoms continued good health and ability to walk around without
> fear of rapidly moving metal projectiles)

Mr. "Bear" Bottoms is not only a liar, he's a clumsy liar. In both of
his claims of a change of direction, he supposedly placed his life in
very real danger and to no real purpose. It stands to reason that Mr.
Bottoms has not changed jobs at all; he still works for the same people
he always has; the CIA with a continuing effort to misinform.
--
http://cod****.blogspot.com/

[Trowbridge H. Ford]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:41:00 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:26:00 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:24:05 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>
>>>>> I couldn't have asked for a better response to my revelations. To
>>>>> anyone with any intelligence, it should show that there is a:"COVER UP
>>>>> THE MENA HOAX AT ANY COST CARTEL" running rampart on the internet, the
>>>>> mediia (sic), and within our government.
>>>>
>>>> I personally don't concern myself with anyone who buys into Bottoms'
>>>> "hoax" campaign. It is undeniable that Mena was part of Barry Seal's
>>>> drug smuggling organization, and even if one accepts Bottoms'
>>>> insistence that the drugs he and Seal smuggled were dropped before
>>>> their planes landed at Mena, so what? Seal's planes would not have
>>>> been able to make their drug-runs if the Mena operation hadn't done
>>>> it's part to modify, repair, and house the planes. Without the
>>>> operations at Mena, there would have been no drug-smuggling, so where
>>>> does Bottoms get off trying to minimize the culpability of Mena? I do
>>>> enjoy watching a fool, he continues to amuse.
>>>
>>> It is very easy to prove that I am who I say I am. I have been coy on
>>> Usenet for a purpose. That coy is my knowing not yours.
>>>
>>> It is very easy to prove that my revelations are true. Too easy in
>>> fact. Why hasn't that been attempted?
>>
>> I believe Bottoms is exactly who he says he is; that's the most
>> influential problem I have with him. He's a confessed drug smuggler
>> who doesn't appear to feel much remorse for his crimes.
>
> I remember every pilot I ever flew a covert mission with. A bond is
> established through the adrenalin of the event. I took over 30 major
> flights. You are a troll, a denigrator, and know nothing of what you
> talk. I do.

On the CIA-Drugs mailing list, you William Bottoms claimed to have dealt
drugs for the CIA. this is an undeniable fact.
--
http://cod****.blogspot.com/

[Bear Bottoms[_4_]]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:46:44 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:

>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:24:05 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>
>>>> It is very easy to prove that I am who I say I am. I have been coy on
>>>> Usenet for a purpose. That coy is my knowing not yours.
>>>>
>>>> It is very easy to prove that my revelations are true. Too easy in
>>>> fact. Why hasn't that been attempted?
>>>
>>> I believe Bottoms is exactly who he says he is; that's the most
>>> influential problem I have with him. He's a confessed drug smuggler
>>> who doesn't appear to feel much remorse for his crimes.
>>
>> Asking admitted drug smuggler "Bear Bottoms" is there's smuggling in
>> Mena is like asking Jeffrey Dahmer if there are cannibals in Milaukee.
>>
>> One should not expect an honest answer.
>>
>> Bear claims to be a drug pilot who just decided one day to cooperate
>> with authorities and run stings for the DEA, forgetting for a moment
>> that this same career move is what got Barry Seal killed (and I note
>> Mr. Bottoms continued good health and ability to walk around without
>> fear of rapidly moving metal projectiles)
>
> Mr. "Bear" Bottoms is not only a liar, he's a clumsy liar. In both of
> his claims of a change of direction, he supposedly placed his life in
> very real danger and to no real purpose. It stands to reason that Mr.
> Bottoms has not changed jobs at all; he still works for the same people
> he always has; the CIA with a continuing effort to misinform.

Denigration and more. It's a troll's modem operandus.
--
Bear Bottoms
website: http://bearware.com

[Bear Bottoms[_4_]]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:02:59 -0000, bealoid wrote:

> "Trowbridge H. Ford" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:20:14 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:18:52 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:11:07 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:56:22 -0500, Thomas J. Giarmo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1252-full.html#199198
>>>>>
>>>>> Mena is a hoax. But only some of fit. They did not shoot this guy
>>>>> down
>>>>> if that is what you mean(a) lol.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tatum and I agree that the CIA has been involved in the traffic in
>>>>> cocaine....and other drugs. Everything I say is true, evidence of
>>>>> significant government misconduct is known here. I have nuclear
>>>>> warheads
>>>>> regarding Mena.
>>>>
>>>> I have ignored William Bottoms for months, because my time is valuable
>>>> and I don't like to waste it. However, he told audacious, outright
>>>> lies about a conversation he had with Mark Keesee, who is also our
>>>> webmaster. At first I resented being dragged into his disinformation
>>>> campaign, but he apparently is not going to give it up.
>>>>
>>>> I really can't imagine why he's so worried about me. But if he wants
>>>> dialogue, he's got it, at least for as long as I am amused with it.
>>>>
>>>> *Bottoms says:* I have made new revelations about the GREAT MENA HOAX.
>>>> No attempt to verify my claims, it appears, has been made. A lot of
>>>> attempts to silence and discredit me have been made. Why? Don't get
>>>> me wrong, I am not being sensitive.
>>>>
>>>> *My response:* Well, of course, no attempts have been made to verify
>>>> Bottoms. Anyone who launches a disinformation campaign should supply
>>>> his own verification. And if he thinks anyone is trying to silence
>>>> him, he is suffering from a case of paranoia. He is his own worst
>>>> enemy; when he talks, he discredits himself. I'm not sure why Bottoms
>>>> is opposed to being thought of as sensitive, I don't consider a drug
>>>> smuggler to be the sensitive type.
>>>
>>> I couldn't have asked for a better response to my revelations. To
>>> anyone with any intelligence, it should show that there is a:"COVER UP
>>> THE MENA HOAX AT ANY COST CARTEL" running rampart on the internet, the
>>> mediia (sic), and within our government.
>>
>> I personally don't concern myself with anyone who buys into Bottoms'
>> "hoax" campaign. It is undeniable that Mena was part of Barry Seal's
>> drug smuggling organization, and even if one accepts Bottoms'
>> insistence that the drugs he and Seal smuggled were dropped before
>> their planes landed at Mena, so what? Seal's planes would not have
>> been able to make their drug-runs if the Mena operation hadn't done
>> it's part to modify, repair, and house the planes. Without the
>> operations at Mena, there would have been no drug-smuggling, so where
>> does Bottoms get off trying to minimize the culpability of Mena? I do
>> enjoy watching a fool, he continues to amuse.
>>
>
> Is this a drug thread?

I declined to a formal interview or filming with you, but I to meet in
Baton Rouge at the Hilton. During this meeting, I will tell you that
the Mena Story as is popular is a Myth as it relates to Barry Seal's
organization.
--
Bear Bottoms
website: http://bearware.com

[Mxsmanic]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:12:18 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:46:44 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:
>
>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:24:05 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>
>>>>> It is very easy to prove that I am who I say I am. I have been coy on
>>>>> Usenet for a purpose. That coy is my knowing not yours.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is very easy to prove that my revelations are true. Too easy in
>>>>> fact. Why hasn't that been attempted?
>>>>
>>>> I believe Bottoms is exactly who he says he is; that's the most
>>>> influential problem I have with him. He's a confessed drug smuggler
>>>> who doesn't appear to feel much remorse for his crimes.
>>>
>>> Asking admitted drug smuggler "Bear Bottoms" is there's smuggling in
>>> Mena is like asking Jeffrey Dahmer if there are cannibals in Milaukee.
>>>
>>> One should not expect an honest answer.
>>>
>>> Bear claims to be a drug pilot who just decided one day to cooperate
>>> with authorities and run stings for the DEA, forgetting for a moment
>>> that this same career move is what got Barry Seal killed (and I note
>>> Mr. Bottoms continued good health and ability to walk around without
>>> fear of rapidly moving metal projectiles)
>>
>> Mr. "Bear" Bottoms is not only a liar, he's a clumsy liar. In both of
>> his claims of a change of direction, he supposedly placed his life in
>> very real danger and to no real purpose. It stands to reason that Mr.
>> Bottoms has not changed jobs at all; he still works for the same people
>> he always has; the CIA with a continuing effort to misinform.
>
> Denigration and more. It's a troll's modem operandus.

'Modem operandus"?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
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[Bear Bottoms[_4_]]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:50:10 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:41:00 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:26:00 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:24:05 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> I couldn't have asked for a better response to my revelations. To
>>>>>> anyone with any intelligence, it should show that there is a:"COVER UP
>>>>>> THE MENA HOAX AT ANY COST CARTEL" running rampart on the internet, the
>>>>>> mediia (sic), and within our government.
>>>>>
>>>>> I personally don't concern myself with anyone who buys into Bottoms'
>>>>> "hoax" campaign. It is undeniable that Mena was part of Barry Seal's
>>>>> drug smuggling organization, and even if one accepts Bottoms'
>>>>> insistence that the drugs he and Seal smuggled were dropped before
>>>>> their planes landed at Mena, so what? Seal's planes would not have
>>>>> been able to make their drug-runs if the Mena operation hadn't done
>>>>> it's part to modify, repair, and house the planes. Without the
>>>>> operations at Mena, there would have been no drug-smuggling, so where
>>>>> does Bottoms get off trying to minimize the culpability of Mena? I do
>>>>> enjoy watching a fool, he continues to amuse.
>>>>
>>>> It is very easy to prove that I am who I say I am. I have been coy on
>>>> Usenet for a purpose. That coy is my knowing not yours.
>>>>
>>>> It is very easy to prove that my revelations are true. Too easy in
>>>> fact. Why hasn't that been attempted?
>>>
>>> I believe Bottoms is exactly who he says he is; that's the most
>>> influential problem I have with him. He's a confessed drug smuggler
>>> who doesn't appear to feel much remorse for his crimes.
>>
>> I remember every pilot I ever flew a covert mission with. A bond is
>> established through the adrenalin of the event. I took over 30 major
>> flights. You are a troll, a denigrator, and know nothing of what you
>> talk. I do.
>
> On the CIA-Drugs mailing list, you William Bottoms claimed to have dealt
> drugs for the CIA. this is an undeniable fact.

I was an unknown. I was not part of any investigation, and I had no
type of agreement with the government. Seal needed to fly the missions
himself because he was trying to get sentencing relief. When his
operation's cover was blown, he set up another sting (Norman Saunders)
but the Feds wouldn't let him fly it. I went and talked to AUSA Dick
Gregory in Miami about flying the mission for Barry. I told him that
if I had to testify afterwards, I might have to take the fifth
amendment on some questions. He said he would send a flyer out to all
state and federal agencies he thought appropriate and if no one had an
ongoing investigation concerning me then he would give me a letter of
immunity. He said I would then have to tell him everything I had ever
done and failure to do so would result in me being prosecuted for
everything. No one reported an investigation of me and I was then
given a letter of immunity about two weeks later. this does not make me
an agent, Troll.
--
Bear Bottoms
website: http://bearware.com

[Trowbridge H. Ford]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:12:18 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:46:44 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:
>
>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:24:05 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>
>>>>> It is very easy to prove that I am who I say I am. I have been coy on
>>>>> Usenet for a purpose. That coy is my knowing not yours.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is very easy to prove that my revelations are true. Too easy in
>>>>> fact. Why hasn't that been attempted?
>>>>
>>>> I believe Bottoms is exactly who he says he is; that's the most
>>>> influential problem I have with him. He's a confessed drug smuggler
>>>> who doesn't appear to feel much remorse for his crimes.
>>>
>>> Asking admitted drug smuggler "Bear Bottoms" is there's smuggling in
>>> Mena is like asking Jeffrey Dahmer if there are cannibals in Milaukee.
>>>
>>> One should not expect an honest answer.
>>>
>>> Bear claims to be a drug pilot who just decided one day to cooperate
>>> with authorities and run stings for the DEA, forgetting for a moment
>>> that this same career move is what got Barry Seal killed (and I note
>>> Mr. Bottoms continued good health and ability to walk around without
>>> fear of rapidly moving metal projectiles)
>>
>> Mr. "Bear" Bottoms is not only a liar, he's a clumsy liar. In both of
>> his claims of a change of direction, he supposedly placed his life in
>> very real danger and to no real purpose. It stands to reason that Mr.
>> Bottoms has not changed jobs at all; he still works for the same people
>> he always has; the CIA with a continuing effort to misinform.
>
> Denigration and more. It's a troll's modem operandus.

You and Seal brought in a Navajo with a Panther conversion kit and
Venezuelan tail number, YV189CP. You commented that it was night time
and Seal flew to Mena /without using charts/ that Seal went in for his
short landing at a 45 degrees, trying to avoid the mountains. The hanger
doors at Rich Mountain Aviation opened up
and they taxied in with the engines still running. You claimed that with
orders from Seal, fly to a place in Southern Colombia, bordering Peru,
and pick up 200 kilos of cocaine. Correct?
--
http://cod****.blogspot.com/

[Bear Bottoms[_4_]]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:27:54 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:

>>>> Asking admitted drug smuggler "Bear Bottoms" is there's smuggling in
>>>> Mena is like asking Jeffrey Dahmer if there are cannibals in Milaukee.
>>>>
>>>> One should not expect an honest answer.
>>>>
>>>> Bear claims to be a drug pilot who just decided one day to cooperate
>>>> with authorities and run stings for the DEA, forgetting for a moment
>>>> that this same career move is what got Barry Seal killed (and I note
>>>> Mr. Bottoms continued good health and ability to walk around without
>>>> fear of rapidly moving metal projectiles)
>>>
>>> Mr. "Bear" Bottoms is not only a liar, he's a clumsy liar. In both of
>>> his claims of a change of direction, he supposedly placed his life in
>>> very real danger and to no real purpose. It stands to reason that Mr.
>>> Bottoms has not changed jobs at all; he still works for the same people
>>> he always has; the CIA with a continuing effort to misinform.
>>
>> Denigration and more. It's a troll's modem operandus.
>
> You and Seal brought in a Navajo with a Panther conversion kit and
> Venezuelan tail number, YV189CP. You commented that it was night time
> and Seal flew to Mena /without using charts/ that Seal went in for his
> short landing at a 45 degrees, trying to avoid the mountains. The hanger
> doors at Rich Mountain Aviation opened up
> and they taxied in with the engines still running. You claimed that with
> orders from Seal, fly to a place in Southern Colombia, bordering Peru,
> and pick up 200 kilos of cocaine. Correct?

I was a good guy and I hauled coke but I didn't ask any questions. There
is more. You don't know it, I do.
--
Bear Bottoms
website: http://bearware.com

[Steve Smith]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:30:46 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:

>>>>> Bear claims to be a drug pilot who just decided one day to cooperate
>>>>> with authorities and run stings for the DEA, forgetting for a moment
>>>>> that this same career move is what got Barry Seal killed (and I note
>>>>> Mr. Bottoms continued good health and ability to walk around without
>>>>> fear of rapidly moving metal projectiles)
>>>>
>>>> Mr. "Bear" Bottoms is not only a liar, he's a clumsy liar. In both of
>>>> his claims of a change of direction, he supposedly placed his life in
>>>> very real danger and to no real purpose. It stands to reason that Mr.
>>>> Bottoms has not changed jobs at all; he still works for the same people
>>>> he always has; the CIA with a continuing effort to misinform.
>>>
>>> Denigration and more. It's a troll's modem operandus.
>>
>> You and Seal brought in a Navajo with a Panther conversion kit and
>> Venezuelan tail number, YV189CP. You commented that it was night time
>> and Seal flew to Mena /without using charts/ that Seal went in for his
>> short landing at a 45 degrees, trying to avoid the mountains. The hanger
>> doors at Rich Mountain Aviation opened up
>> and they taxied in with the engines still running. You claimed that with
>> orders from Seal, fly to a place in Southern Colombia, bordering Peru,
>> and pick up 200 kilos of cocaine. Correct?
>
> I was a good guy and I hauled coke but I didn't ask any questions. There
> is more. You don't know it, I do.

Which is why self professed drug smuggler turned really nice guy
(honest) "Bear Bottoms", is working so hard to assure everyone that
there is no CIA drug running operation, either at Mena, in Los Angeles,
or Kentucky, or Texas, or Arizona, or Montana, or anywhere else. The
"more" is all in his interest, not in the truth's.
--
Trolls Are Attracted To Idiots; Idiots Respond to Trolls

[hummingbird[_3_]]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:02:59 -0000, bealoid wrote:

> "Trowbridge H. Ford" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:20:14 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:18:52 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:11:07 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:56:22 -0500, Thomas J. Giarmo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1252-full.html#199198
>>>>>
>>>>> Mena is a hoax. But only some of fit. They did not shoot this guy
>>>>> down
>>>>> if that is what you mean(a) lol.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tatum and I agree that the CIA has been involved in the traffic in
>>>>> cocaine....and other drugs. Everything I say is true, evidence of
>>>>> significant government misconduct is known here. I have nuclear
>>>>> warheads
>>>>> regarding Mena.
>>>>
>>>> I have ignored William Bottoms for months, because my time is valuable
>>>> and I don't like to waste it. However, he told audacious, outright
>>>> lies about a conversation he had with Mark Keesee, who is also our
>>>> webmaster. At first I resented being dragged into his disinformation
>>>> campaign, but he apparently is not going to give it up.
>>>>
>>>> I really can't imagine why he's so worried about me. But if he wants
>>>> dialogue, he's got it, at least for as long as I am amused with it.
>>>>
>>>> *Bottoms says:* I have made new revelations about the GREAT MENA HOAX.
>>>> No attempt to verify my claims, it appears, has been made. A lot of
>>>> attempts to silence and discredit me have been made. Why? Don't get
>>>> me wrong, I am not being sensitive.
>>>>
>>>> *My response:* Well, of course, no attempts have been made to verify
>>>> Bottoms. Anyone who launches a disinformation campaign should supply
>>>> his own verification. And if he thinks anyone is trying to silence
>>>> him, he is suffering from a case of paranoia. He is his own worst
>>>> enemy; when he talks, he discredits himself. I'm not sure why Bottoms
>>>> is opposed to being thought of as sensitive, I don't consider a drug
>>>> smuggler to be the sensitive type.
>>>
>>> I couldn't have asked for a better response to my revelations. To
>>> anyone with any intelligence, it should show that there is a:"COVER UP
>>> THE MENA HOAX AT ANY COST CARTEL" running rampart on the internet, the
>>> mediia (sic), and within our government.
>>
>> I personally don't concern myself with anyone who buys into Bottoms'
>> "hoax" campaign. It is undeniable that Mena was part of Barry Seal's
>> drug smuggling organization, and even if one accepts Bottoms'
>> insistence that the drugs he and Seal smuggled were dropped before
>> their planes landed at Mena, so what? Seal's planes would not have
>> been able to make their drug-runs if the Mena operation hadn't done
>> it's part to modify, repair, and house the planes. Without the
>> operations at Mena, there would have been no drug-smuggling, so where
>> does Bottoms get off trying to minimize the culpability of Mena? I do
>> enjoy watching a fool, he continues to amuse.
>>
>
> Is this a drug thread?

Pay attention,where is Berty The Bunyip when you need him on ACF.
--
http://www.tastelesschoice.com/hitler.htm

[Steve Smith]

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:59:32 +0000, hummingbird wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:07:33 -0000 'Sal Sola'
> wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
>
>>On Thu 13 Nov08 22:50, hummingbird > wrote in
>:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:02:59 -0000 'bealoid'wrote this on
>>> alt.comp.freeware:
>>>
>>>>"Trowbridge H. Ford" > wrote in
>>>>message ...
>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:20:14 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:18:52 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:11:07 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:56:22 -0500, Thomas J. Giarmo wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1252-
>>>>>>>>> full.html#199198
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mena is a hoax. But only some of fit. They did not shoot this
>>>>>>>> guy down if that is what you mean(a) lol.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tatum and I agree that the CIA has been involved in the
>>>>>>>> traffic in cocaine....and other drugs. Everything I say is
>>>>>>>> true, evidence of significant government misconduct is known
>>>>>>>> here. I have nuclear warheads
>>>>>>>> regarding Mena.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have ignored William Bottoms for months, because my time is
>>>>>>> valuable and I don't like to waste it. However, he told
>>>>>>> audacious, outright lies about a conversation he had with Mark
>>>>>>> Keesee, who is also our webmaster. At first I resented being
>>>>>>> dragged into his disinformation campaign, but he apparently is
>>>>>>> not going to give it up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I really can't imagine why he's so worried about me. But if he
>>>>>>> wants dialogue, he's got it, at least for as long as I am amused
>>>>>>> with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Bottoms says:* I have made new revelations about the GREAT MENA
>>>>>>> HOAX. No attempt to verify my claims, it appears, has been made.
>>>>>>> A lot of attempts to silence and discredit me have been made.
>>>>>>> Why? Don't get me wrong, I am not being sensitive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *My response:* Well, of course, no attempts have been made to
>>>>>>> verify Bottoms. Anyone who launches a disinformation campaign
>>>>>>> should supply his own verification. And if he thinks anyone is
>>>>>>> trying to silence him, he is suffering from a case of paranoia.
>>>>>>> He is his own worst enemy; when he talks, he discredits himself.
>>>>>>> I'm not sure why Bottoms is opposed to being thought of as
>>>>>>> sensitive, I don't consider a drug smuggler to be the sensitive
>>>>>>> type.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I couldn't have asked for a better response to my revelations.
>>>>>> To anyone with any intelligence, it should show that there is
>>>>>> a:"COVER UP THE MENA HOAX AT ANY COST CARTEL" running rampart on
>>>>>> the internet, the mediia (sic), and within our government.
>>>>>
>>>>> I personally don't concern myself with anyone who buys into
>>>>> Bottoms' "hoax" campaign. It is undeniable that Mena was part of
>>>>> Barry Seal's drug smuggling organization, and even if one accepts
>>>>> Bottoms' insistence that the drugs he and Seal smuggled were
>>>>> dropped before their planes landed at Mena, so what? Seal's
>>>>> planes would not have been able to make their drug-runs if the
>>>>> Mena operation hadn't done it's part to modify, repair, and house
>>>>> the planes. Without the operations at Mena, there would have been
>>>>> no drug-smuggling, so where does Bottoms get off trying to
>>>>> minimize the culpability of Mena? I do enjoy watching a fool, he
>>>>> continues to amuse.
>>>>
>>>>Is this a drug thread?
>>>
>>> Pay attention, Trowbridge H. Ford is one of the forgers/socks.
>>> You obviously didn't spot that he cross posted to
>>> <rec.aviation.piloting>, presumably to get Berty The Bunyip back
>>> on ACF.
>>
>>
>>If Trowbridge wanted to contact Bertie The Bunyip, wouldn't Trowbridge
>>just post a message to him?
>>
>>The thread has a lot of talk about flying. It's of interest to aviation
>>groups. Trowbridge is right to post there.
>
> Trowbridge is pilot = pussy. My group I run and call the shots on
> is <alt.comp.freeware>, it has nothing to do with aviators
> who are a bunch of pussies who can't drive.
>
> Any part of that don't you understand?

None, thanks for the clarification, PussyBird.
--
Don't flatter yourself, ****. Your only accomplishment is showing
everybody what stupid vile igno you are, Mom.
OUT!
SSteve

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"hummingbird" > wrote in message
...
| >
| > Is this a drug thread?
|
| Pay attention,where is Berty The Bunyip when you need him on ACF.
| --
| http://www.tastelesschoice.com/hitler.htm

Buttlipps is NEVER needed.

[hummingbird[_3_]]

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:50:34 GMT, Peter G wrote:

> On Sat 15 Nov08 01:18, Steve Smith > wrote in
> >:
>
>> On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:59:32 +0000, hummingbird wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:07:33 -0000 'Sal Sola'
>>> wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
>>>
>>>>On Thu 13 Nov08 22:50, hummingbird > wrote in
>:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:02:59 -0000 'bealoid'wrote this on
>>>>> alt.comp.freeware:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Trowbridge H. Ford" > wrote
>>>>>>in message ...
>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:20:14 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:18:52 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:11:07 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:56:22 -0500, Thomas J. Giarmo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1252-
>>>>>>>>>>> full.html#199198
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mena is a hoax. But only some of fit. They did not shoot
>>>>>>>>>> this guy down if that is what you mean(a) lol.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tatum and I agree that the CIA has been involved in the
>>>>>>>>>> traffic in cocaine....and other drugs. Everything I say is
>>>>>>>>>> true, evidence of significant government misconduct is known
>>>>>>>>>> here. I have nuclear warheads
>>>>>>>>>> regarding Mena.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have ignored William Bottoms for months, because my time is
>>>>>>>>> valuable and I don't like to waste it. However, he told
>>>>>>>>> audacious, outright lies about a conversation he had with
>>>>>>>>> Mark Keesee, who is also our webmaster. At first I resented
>>>>>>>>> being dragged into his disinformation campaign, but he
>>>>>>>>> apparently is not going to give it up.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I really can't imagine why he's so worried about me. But if
>>>>>>>>> he wants dialogue, he's got it, at least for as long as I am
>>>>>>>>> amused with it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Bottoms says:* I have made new revelations about the GREAT
>>>>>>>>> MENA HOAX. No attempt to verify my claims, it appears, has
>>>>>>>>> been made.
>>>>>>>>> A lot of attempts to silence and discredit me have been
>>>>>>>>> made.
>>>>>>>>> Why? Don't get me wrong, I am not being sensitive.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *My response:* Well, of course, no attempts have been made to
>>>>>>>>> verify Bottoms. Anyone who launches a disinformation campaign
>>>>>>>>> should supply his own verification. And if he thinks anyone
>>>>>>>>> is trying to silence him, he is suffering from a case of
>>>>>>>>> paranoia. He is his own worst enemy; when he talks, he
>>>>>>>>> discredits himself.
>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure why Bottoms is opposed to being thought of as
>>>>>>>>> sensitive, I don't consider a drug smuggler to be the
>>>>>>>>> sensitive type.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I couldn't have asked for a better response to my revelations.
>>>>>>>> To anyone with any intelligence, it should show that there is
>>>>>>>> a:"COVER UP THE MENA HOAX AT ANY COST CARTEL" running rampart
>>>>>>>> on the internet, the mediia (sic), and within our government.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I personally don't concern myself with anyone who buys into
>>>>>>> Bottoms' "hoax" campaign. It is undeniable that Mena was part
>>>>>>> of Barry Seal's drug smuggling organization, and even if one
>>>>>>> accepts Bottoms' insistence that the drugs he and Seal smuggled
>>>>>>> were dropped before their planes landed at Mena, so what?
>>>>>>> Seal's planes would not have been able to make their drug-runs
>>>>>>> if the Mena operation hadn't done it's part to modify, repair,
>>>>>>> and house the planes. Without the operations at Mena, there
>>>>>>> would have been no drug-smuggling, so where does Bottoms get
>>>>>>> off trying to minimize the culpability of Mena? I do enjoy
>>>>>>> watching a fool, he continues to amuse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is this a drug thread?
>>>>>
>>>>> Pay attention, Trowbridge H. Ford is one of the forgers/socks.
>>>>> You obviously didn't spot that he cross posted to
>>>>> <rec.aviation.piloting>, presumably to get Berty The Bunyip back
>>>>> on ACF.
>>>>
>>>>The thread has a lot of talk about flying. It's of interest to
>>>>aviation groups. Trowbridge is right to post there.
>>>
>>> Trowbridge is pilot = pussy. My group I run and call the shots on
>>> is <alt.comp.freeware>, it has nothing to do with aviators
>>> who are a bunch of pussies who can't drive.
>>> Any part of that don't you understand?
>>
>> None, thanks for the clarification, PussyBird.
>
> He sounds like a troublemaker. Best avoid him or sort it out in his
> own group.

Indeed? Who are you to say so?
--
"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident"
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

[Trowbridge H. Ford]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:21:21 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:50:10 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:41:00 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:26:00 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:24:05 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> I couldn't have asked for a better response to my revelations. To
>>>>>>> anyone with any intelligence, it should show that there is a:"COVER UP
>>>>>>> THE MENA HOAX AT ANY COST CARTEL" running rampart on the internet, the
>>>>>>> mediia (sic), and within our government.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I personally don't concern myself with anyone who buys into Bottoms'
>>>>>> "hoax" campaign. It is undeniable that Mena was part of Barry Seal's
>>>>>> drug smuggling organization, and even if one accepts Bottoms'
>>>>>> insistence that the drugs he and Seal smuggled were dropped before
>>>>>> their planes landed at Mena, so what? Seal's planes would not have
>>>>>> been able to make their drug-runs if the Mena operation hadn't done
>>>>>> it's part to modify, repair, and house the planes. Without the
>>>>>> operations at Mena, there would have been no drug-smuggling, so where
>>>>>> does Bottoms get off trying to minimize the culpability of Mena? I do
>>>>>> enjoy watching a fool, he continues to amuse.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is very easy to prove that I am who I say I am. I have been coy on
>>>>> Usenet for a purpose. That coy is my knowing not yours.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is very easy to prove that my revelations are true. Too easy in
>>>>> fact. Why hasn't that been attempted?
>>>>
>>>> I believe Bottoms is exactly who he says he is; that's the most
>>>> influential problem I have with him. He's a confessed drug smuggler
>>>> who doesn't appear to feel much remorse for his crimes.
>>>
>>> I remember every pilot I ever flew a covert mission with. A bond is
>>> established through the adrenalin of the event. I took over 30 major
>>> flights. You are a troll, a denigrator, and know nothing of what you
>>> talk. I do.
>>
>> On the CIA-Drugs mailing list, you William Bottoms claimed to have dealt
>> drugs for the CIA. this is an undeniable fact.
>
> I was an unknown. I was not part of any investigation, and I had no
> type of agreement with the government. Seal needed to fly the missions
> himself because he was trying to get sentencing relief. When his
> operation's cover was blown, he set up another sting (Norman Saunders)
> but the Feds wouldn't let him fly it. I went and talked to AUSA Dick
> Gregory in Miami about flying the mission for Barry. I told him that
> if I had to testify afterwards, I might have to take the fifth
> amendment on some questions. He said he would send a flyer out to all
> state and federal agencies he thought appropriate and if no one had an
> ongoing investigation concerning me then he would give me a letter of
> immunity. He said I would then have to tell him everything I had ever
> done and failure to do so would result in me being prosecuted for
> everything. No one reported an investigation of me and I was then
> given a letter of immunity about two weeks later. This does not make me
> an agent, Troll.

I'll settle for pond scum, Bottoms.

Following his fall from CIA grace, Seal was sentenced to live at a
Rehab Center by a judge who also prohibited him to employ bodyguards.
Corruption doesn't become any more obvious than this. But the bodyguard
(you) who was to be there (illegally another crown for your thorn hat)
when he was killed never showed up.

Yet you in one minute claim there was no Mena, insisting that there
never was any drug running operation at Mena, Arkansas, the next you
admit to it.

You're a disinformation clown Bottoms and a exorbitantly ignorant one
at that.
--

http://cod****.blogspot.com/

[Steve Smith]

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:20:39 -0500, hummingbird wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:50:34 GMT, Peter G wrote:
>
>> On Sat 15 Nov08 01:18, Steve Smith > wrote in
>> >:
>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:59:32 +0000, hummingbird wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:07:33 -0000 'Sal Sola'
>>>> wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu 13 Nov08 22:50, hummingbird > wrote in
>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:02:59 -0000 'bealoid'wrote this on
>>>>>> alt.comp.freeware:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Trowbridge H. Ford" > wrote
>>>>>>>in message ...
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:20:14 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:18:52 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:11:07 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:56:22 -0500, Thomas J. Giarmo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1252-
>>>>>>>>>>>> full.html#199198
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mena is a hoax. But only some of fit. They did not shoot
>>>>>>>>>>> this guy down if that is what you mean(a) lol.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tatum and I agree that the CIA has been involved in the
>>>>>>>>>>> traffic in cocaine....and other drugs. Everything I say is
>>>>>>>>>>> true, evidence of significant government misconduct is known
>>>>>>>>>>> here. I have nuclear warheads
>>>>>>>>>>> regarding Mena.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have ignored William Bottoms for months, because my time is
>>>>>>>>>> valuable and I don't like to waste it. However, he told
>>>>>>>>>> audacious, outright lies about a conversation he had with
>>>>>>>>>> Mark Keesee, who is also our webmaster. At first I resented
>>>>>>>>>> being dragged into his disinformation campaign, but he
>>>>>>>>>> apparently is not going to give it up.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I really can't imagine why he's so worried about me. But if
>>>>>>>>>> he wants dialogue, he's got it, at least for as long as I am
>>>>>>>>>> amused with it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Bottoms says:* I have made new revelations about the GREAT
>>>>>>>>>> MENA HOAX. No attempt to verify my claims, it appears, has
>>>>>>>>>> been made.
>>>>>>>>>> A lot of attempts to silence and discredit me have been
>>>>>>>>>> made.
>>>>>>>>>> Why? Don't get me wrong, I am not being sensitive.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *My response:* Well, of course, no attempts have been made to
>>>>>>>>>> verify Bottoms. Anyone who launches a disinformation campaign
>>>>>>>>>> should supply his own verification. And if he thinks anyone
>>>>>>>>>> is trying to silence him, he is suffering from a case of
>>>>>>>>>> paranoia. He is his own worst enemy; when he talks, he
>>>>>>>>>> discredits himself.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure why Bottoms is opposed to being thought of as
>>>>>>>>>> sensitive, I don't consider a drug smuggler to be the
>>>>>>>>>> sensitive type.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I couldn't have asked for a better response to my revelations.
>>>>>>>>> To anyone with any intelligence, it should show that there is
>>>>>>>>> a:"COVER UP THE MENA HOAX AT ANY COST CARTEL" running rampart
>>>>>>>>> on the internet, the mediia (sic), and within our government.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I personally don't concern myself with anyone who buys into
>>>>>>>> Bottoms' "hoax" campaign. It is undeniable that Mena was part
>>>>>>>> of Barry Seal's drug smuggling organization, and even if one
>>>>>>>> accepts Bottoms' insistence that the drugs he and Seal smuggled
>>>>>>>> were dropped before their planes landed at Mena, so what?
>>>>>>>> Seal's planes would not have been able to make their drug-runs
>>>>>>>> if the Mena operation hadn't done it's part to modify, repair,
>>>>>>>> and house the planes. Without the operations at Mena, there
>>>>>>>> would have been no drug-smuggling, so where does Bottoms get
>>>>>>>> off trying to minimize the culpability of Mena? I do enjoy
>>>>>>>> watching a fool, he continues to amuse.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Is this a drug thread?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pay attention, Trowbridge H. Ford is one of the forgers/socks.
>>>>>> You obviously didn't spot that he cross posted to
>>>>>> <rec.aviation.piloting>, presumably to get Berty The Bunyip back
>>>>>> on ACF.
>>>>>
>>>>>The thread has a lot of talk about flying. It's of interest to
>>>>>aviation groups. Trowbridge is right to post there.
>>>>
>>>> Trowbridge is pilot = pussy. My group I run and call the shots on
>>>> is <alt.comp.freeware>, it has nothing to do with aviators
>>>> who are a bunch of pussies who can't drive.
>>>> Any part of that don't you understand?
>>>
>>> None, thanks for the clarification, PussyBird.
>>
>> He sounds like a troublemaker. Best avoid him or sort it out in his
>> own group.
>
> Indeed? Who are you to say so?

"Indeed?"

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Limp wristed PussyBird.
--
Don't flatter yourself, ****. Your only accomplishment is showing
everybody what stupid vile igno you are, Mom.
OUT!
SSteve

[Payton Byrd]

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:37:48 -0500, Steve Smith wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:20:39 -0500, hummingbird wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:50:34 GMT, Peter G wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat 15 Nov08 01:18, Steve Smith > wrote in
>>> >:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:59:32 +0000, hummingbird wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:07:33 -0000 'Sal Sola'
>>>>> wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu 13 Nov08 22:50, hummingbird > wrote in
>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:02:59 -0000 'bealoid'wrote this on
>>>>>>> alt.comp.freeware:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Trowbridge H. Ford" > wrote
>>>>>>>>in message ...
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:20:14 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:18:52 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:11:07 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:56:22 -0500, Thomas J. Giarmo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1252-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> full.html#199198
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mena is a hoax. But only some of fit. They did not shoot
>>>>>>>>>>>> this guy down if that is what you mean(a) lol.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tatum and I agree that the CIA has been involved in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> traffic in cocaine....and other drugs. Everything I say is
>>>>>>>>>>>> true, evidence of significant government misconduct is known
>>>>>>>>>>>> here. I have nuclear warheads
>>>>>>>>>>>> regarding Mena.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have ignored William Bottoms for months, because my time is
>>>>>>>>>>> valuable and I don't like to waste it. However, he told
>>>>>>>>>>> audacious, outright lies about a conversation he had with
>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Keesee, who is also our webmaster. At first I resented
>>>>>>>>>>> being dragged into his disinformation campaign, but he
>>>>>>>>>>> apparently is not going to give it up.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I really can't imagine why he's so worried about me. But if
>>>>>>>>>>> he wants dialogue, he's got it, at least for as long as I am
>>>>>>>>>>> amused with it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Bottoms says:* I have made new revelations about the GREAT
>>>>>>>>>>> MENA HOAX. No attempt to verify my claims, it appears, has
>>>>>>>>>>> been made.
>>>>>>>>>>> A lot of attempts to silence and discredit me have been
>>>>>>>>>>> made.
>>>>>>>>>>> Why? Don't get me wrong, I am not being sensitive.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *My response:* Well, of course, no attempts have been made to
>>>>>>>>>>> verify Bottoms. Anyone who launches a disinformation campaign
>>>>>>>>>>> should supply his own verification. And if he thinks anyone
>>>>>>>>>>> is trying to silence him, he is suffering from a case of
>>>>>>>>>>> paranoia. He is his own worst enemy; when he talks, he
>>>>>>>>>>> discredits himself.
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure why Bottoms is opposed to being thought of as
>>>>>>>>>>> sensitive, I don't consider a drug smuggler to be the
>>>>>>>>>>> sensitive type.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't have asked for a better response to my revelations.
>>>>>>>>>> To anyone with any intelligence, it should show that there is
>>>>>>>>>> a:"COVER UP THE MENA HOAX AT ANY COST CARTEL" running rampart
>>>>>>>>>> on the internet, the mediia (sic), and within our government.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I personally don't concern myself with anyone who buys into
>>>>>>>>> Bottoms' "hoax" campaign. It is undeniable that Mena was part
>>>>>>>>> of Barry Seal's drug smuggling organization, and even if one
>>>>>>>>> accepts Bottoms' insistence that the drugs he and Seal smuggled
>>>>>>>>> were dropped before their planes landed at Mena, so what?
>>>>>>>>> Seal's planes would not have been able to make their drug-runs
>>>>>>>>> if the Mena operation hadn't done it's part to modify, repair,
>>>>>>>>> and house the planes. Without the operations at Mena, there
>>>>>>>>> would have been no drug-smuggling, so where does Bottoms get
>>>>>>>>> off trying to minimize the culpability of Mena? I do enjoy
>>>>>>>>> watching a fool, he continues to amuse.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is this a drug thread?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pay attention, Trowbridge H. Ford is one of the forgers/socks.
>>>>>>> You obviously didn't spot that he cross posted to
>>>>>>> <rec.aviation.piloting>, presumably to get Berty The Bunyip back
>>>>>>> on ACF.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The thread has a lot of talk about flying. It's of interest to
>>>>>>aviation groups. Trowbridge is right to post there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Trowbridge is pilot = pussy. My group I run and call the shots on
>>>>> is <alt.comp.freeware>, it has nothing to do with aviators
>>>>> who are a bunch of pussies who can't drive.
>>>>> Any part of that don't you understand?
>>>>
>>>> None, thanks for the clarification, PussyBird.
>>>
>>> He sounds like a troublemaker. Best avoid him or sort it out in his
>>> own group.
>>
>> Indeed? Who are you to say so?
>
> "Indeed?"
>
> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
>
> Limp wristed PussyBird.

Fag talk. Indeed, it is. lol
--
They say your heroes reflect the quantity and fullness of your life. I
have three, hummingbird, Bear Botttoms
and Me.Here, the Triumvirate. Alas, now measured by said axiom, I
have no life <sigh>

[Franklin[_5_]]

On Thu 20 Nov08 09:22, Payton Byrd
> wrote in
>:

> On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:37:48 -0500, Steve Smith wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:20:39 -0500, hummingbird wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:50:34 GMT, Peter G wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat 15 Nov08 01:18, Steve Smith > wrote in
>>>> >:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:59:32 +0000, hummingbird wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:07:33 -0000 'Sal Sola'
>>>>>> wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Thu 13 Nov08 22:50, hummingbird >
>>>>>>>wrote in >:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:02:59 -0000 'bealoid'wrote this on
>>>>>>>> alt.comp.freeware:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Trowbridge H. Ford" >
>>>>>>>>>wrote in message ...
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:20:14 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:18:52 -0500, Trowbridge H. Ford
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:11:07 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:56:22 -0500, Thomas J. Giarmo
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1252-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> full.html#199198
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mena is a hoax. But only some of fit. They did not shoot
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this guy down if that is what you mean(a) lol.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tatum and I agree that the CIA has been involved in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> traffic in cocaine....and other drugs. Everything I say
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is true, evidence of significant government misconduct
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is known here. I have nuclear warheads
>>>>>>>>>>>>> regarding Mena.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have ignored William Bottoms for months, because my
>>>>>>>>>>>> time is valuable and I don't like to waste it. However,
>>>>>>>>>>>> he told audacious, outright lies about a conversation he
>>>>>>>>>>>> had with Mark Keesee, who is also our webmaster. At
>>>>>>>>>>>> first I resented being dragged into his disinformation
>>>>>>>>>>>> campaign, but he apparently is not going to give it up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I really can't imagine why he's so worried about me. But
>>>>>>>>>>>> if he wants dialogue, he's got it, at least for as long
>>>>>>>>>>>> as I am amused with it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Bottoms says:* I have made new revelations about the
>>>>>>>>>>>> GREAT MENA HOAX. No attempt to verify my claims, it
>>>>>>>>>>>> appears, has been made.
>>>>>>>>>>>> A lot of attempts to silence and discredit me have been
>>>>>>>>>>>> made.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why? Don't get me wrong, I am not being sensitive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *My response:* Well, of course, no attempts have been
>>>>>>>>>>>> made to verify Bottoms. Anyone who launches a
>>>>>>>>>>>> disinformation campaign should supply his own
>>>>>>>>>>>> verification. And if he thinks anyone is trying to
>>>>>>>>>>>> silence him, he is suffering from a case of
>>>>>>>>>>>> paranoia. He is his own worst enemy; when he talks, he
>>>>>>>>>>>> discredits himself.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure why Bottoms is opposed to being thought of
>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> sensitive, I don't consider a drug smuggler to be the
>>>>>>>>>>>> sensitive type.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't have asked for a better response to my
>>>>>>>>>>> revelations. To anyone with any intelligence, it should
>>>>>>>>>>> show that there is a:"COVER UP THE MENA HOAX AT ANY COST
>>>>>>>>>>> CARTEL" running rampart on the internet, the mediia (sic),
>>>>>>>>>>> and within our government.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I personally don't concern myself with anyone who buys into
>>>>>>>>>> Bottoms' "hoax" campaign. It is undeniable that Mena was
>>>>>>>>>> part of Barry Seal's drug smuggling organization, and even
>>>>>>>>>> if one accepts Bottoms' insistence that the drugs he and
>>>>>>>>>> Seal smuggled were dropped before their planes landed at
>>>>>>>>>> Mena, so what? Seal's planes would not have been able to
>>>>>>>>>> make their drug-runs if the Mena operation hadn't done it's
>>>>>>>>>> part to modify, repair, and house the planes. Without the
>>>>>>>>>> operations at Mena, there would have been no
>>>>>>>>>> drug-smuggling, so where does Bottoms get off trying to
>>>>>>>>>> minimize the culpability of Mena? I do enjoy watching a
>>>>>>>>>> fool, he continues to amuse.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Is this a drug thread?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pay attention, Trowbridge H. Ford is one of the
>>>>>>>> forgers/socks. You obviously didn't spot that he cross posted
>>>>>>>> to <rec.aviation.piloting>, presumably to get Berty The
>>>>>>>> Bunyip back on ACF.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The thread has a lot of talk about flying. It's of interest to
>>>>>>>aviation groups. Trowbridge is right to post there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trowbridge is pilot = pussy. My group I run and call the shots
>>>>>> on is <alt.comp.freeware>, it has nothing to do with aviators
>>>>>> who are a bunch of pussies who can't drive.
>>>>>> Any part of that don't you understand?
>>>>>
>>>>> None, thanks for the clarification, PussyBird.
>>>>
>>>> He sounds like a troublemaker. Best avoid him or sort it out in
>>>> his own group.
>>>
>>> Indeed? Who are you to say so?
>>
>> "Indeed?"
>>
>> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
>>
>> Limp wristed PussyBird.
>
> Fag talk. Indeed, it is. lol

Brim dung, him.

Dumb grin, him.

(anagrams of Hummingbird)