141 school stuff

[Steven Barnes]

Here's a (hopefully) on topic question:
My CFI is trying to get approved for 141 'status' to do some accelerated
training for people desiring the 141 path. I'm hoping to help him out with
some of the students as my schedule permits. I'd like to be helpful in the
setup/paperwork that goes along with running 141. Other than the CFRs, are
there any straight-ahead readable sources of info on all the things that
need to be in place? Paperwork, aircraft inspections, CFI currency
requirements, etc.

I've heard little snippets of rules from another local 141 capable school,
but I guess I'm hoping for a "Setting up and managing a 141 school for
dummies" book. :-)

Thanks!

--



CP-ASEL, instrument, CFI

[Robert M. Gary]

On Nov 15, 8:30*am, "Steven Barnes" > wrote:
> Here's a (hopefully) on topic question:
> My CFI is trying to get approved for 141 'status' to do some accelerated
> training for people desiring the 141 path. I'm hoping to help him out with
> some of the students as my schedule permits. I'd like to be helpful in the
> setup/paperwork that goes along with running 141. Other than the CFRs, are
> there any straight-ahead readable sources of info on all the things that
> need to be in place? Paperwork, aircraft inspections, CFI currency
> requirements, etc.
>
> I've heard little snippets of rules from another local 141 capable school,
> but I guess I'm hoping for a "Setting up and managing a 141 school for
> dummies" book. :-)

AOPA may have something. I've never heard of reducing instruction time
as the reason for a 141 school. For private the difference is
insignificant. For instrament it does allow you to skip the 50 hours
of cross country but doesn't change the actual time for the rating as
I recall. For commercial I seem to recall there was a small
differenece but again, not much. However, the typical reason for
becoming a 141 school is to allow for 3rd party payers such as VA,
etc. Many organizations such as VA will not pay for training from
non-141 schools.

-Robert

[Steven Barnes]

The VA is one reason. Another is certain foreign students demand a 141
school to meet some magical criteria of their country once they go back.
He's been doing a 10 day IFR course for years under 61 (much less hassle,
too).


"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
...
On Nov 15, 8:30 am, "Steven Barnes" > wrote:
> Here's a (hopefully) on topic question:
> My CFI is trying to get approved for 141 'status' to do some accelerated
> training for people desiring the 141 path. I'm hoping to help him out with
> some of the students as my schedule permits. I'd like to be helpful in the
> setup/paperwork that goes along with running 141. Other than the CFRs, are
> there any straight-ahead readable sources of info on all the things that
> need to be in place? Paperwork, aircraft inspections, CFI currency
> requirements, etc.
>
> I've heard little snippets of rules from another local 141 capable school,
> but I guess I'm hoping for a "Setting up and managing a 141 school for
> dummies" book. :-)

AOPA may have something. I've never heard of reducing instruction time
as the reason for a 141 school. For private the difference is
insignificant. For instrament it does allow you to skip the 50 hours
of cross country but doesn't change the actual time for the rating as
I recall. For commercial I seem to recall there was a small
differenece but again, not much. However, the typical reason for
becoming a 141 school is to allow for 3rd party payers such as VA,
etc. Many organizations such as VA will not pay for training from
non-141 schools.

-Robert

[Mike]

"Steven Barnes" > wrote in message
...
> Here's a (hopefully) on topic question:
> My CFI is trying to get approved for 141 'status' to do some accelerated
> training for people desiring the 141 path. I'm hoping to help him out with
> some of the students as my schedule permits. I'd like to be helpful in the
> setup/paperwork that goes along with running 141. Other than the CFRs, are
> there any straight-ahead readable sources of info on all the things that
> need to be in place? Paperwork, aircraft inspections, CFI currency
> requirements, etc.
>
> I've heard little snippets of rules from another local 141 capable school,
> but I guess I'm hoping for a "Setting up and managing a 141 school for
> dummies" book. :-)

Call the AOPA pilot information center. I can just about guarantee they
will answer your question compentently. I know someone who was setting up
an air ambulance business and had numerous questions on how to do it. He
called AOPA and they answered everyone of them. His question was a bit
unusual, yet AOPA still had people on staff that knew how to do it. I would
expect they answer the 141 question on a regular basis.

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On Nov 15, 10:30*am, "Steven Barnes" > wrote:
> Here's a (hopefully) on topic question:
> My CFI is trying to get approved for 141 'status' to do some accelerated
> training for people desiring the 141 path. I'm hoping to help him out with
> some of the students as my schedule permits. I'd like to be helpful in the
> setup/paperwork that goes along with running 141. Other than the CFRs, are
> there any straight-ahead readable sources of info on all the things that
> need to be in place? Paperwork, aircraft inspections, CFI currency
> requirements, etc.
>
> I've heard little snippets of rules from another local 141 capable school,
> but I guess I'm hoping for a "Setting up and managing a 141 school for
> dummies" book. :-)
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
>
>
>
> CP-ASEL, instrument, CFI

Check into this Advisory Circular. The information presented is
expanded from the Regulations.

Asst. Chief Instructor for Private Pilot Program

[[email protected]]

On Nov 15, 10:30*am, "Steven Barnes" > wrote:
> Here's a (hopefully) on topic question:
> My CFI is trying to get approved for 141 'status' to do some accelerated
> training for people desiring the 141 path. I'm hoping to help him out with
> some of the students as my schedule permits. I'd like to be helpful in the
> setup/paperwork that goes along with running 141. Other than the CFRs, are
> there any straight-ahead readable sources of info on all the things that
> need to be in place? Paperwork, aircraft inspections, CFI currency
> requirements, etc.
>
> I've heard little snippets of rules from another local 141 capable school,
> but I guess I'm hoping for a "Setting up and managing a 141 school for
> dummies" book. :-)
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
>
>
>
> CP-ASEL, instrument, CFI

Check into this Advisory Circular

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/31C97AA1A0E2151E862569BC0057DA55?OpenDocument&Highlight=141

The information presented here is an expansion of that contained in
Part 141 of the Regulations.

--Robbie
Asst. Chief Instructor, Private Pilot Program