A Proposal for the group

[Dudley Henriques[_2_]]

Had an idea today and thought I'd throw it out here for anyone who
might be interested.
I belong to several pilots workgroups; one world wide comprised of
some of the finest aerobatic pilots on the planet. We brainstorm
together and have been instrumental in getting new rules and
regulations adopted in the air show and display flying community that
have saved lives. This group works quite well and it's given me an
idea. I'm just throwing this out here to see if there's enough
interest.

Would anyone here be interested in forming an email group comprised of
interested pilots and instructors from within the Usenet community
(namely from RAP and RAS) who would like to have such a back channel
email group simply to brainstorm, get acquainted,
ask questions, have questions answered, and generally simply to be
engaged in a good on topic friendly email loop with other pilots who
share the same interests.
In such a group, there is no moderator, no clowns, no flames, no
mxsmanics, no maxies, no anyone you personally don't want in the
group. Each pilot has control of their own group folder on their own
email program so they can participate or pass as they wish.
This email group need not in any way take anyone away from the Usenet
forums if that is their thing. You can use the back channel group at
your own leisure; send messages to the group or to an individual in
the group. No hassles, no problems whatsoever. YOU have complete
control over your participation. Just a group of friends with a common
interest.
I'm suggesting this only as an option for those who might be getting a
snoot full of the nonsense that seems to be the new standard on the
Usenet pilot forums. No need for anyone to leave the group or stop
posting here as the new pilots email loop is only another option
rather than a replacement for the forum as it exists.

Anyway, if you are interested, just drop me an email and we'll start
getting the "pilots email loop" together. I'm creating a new folder on
my email bar named "PILOTS EMAIL GROUP. If you write in, I'll add your
name to the group. As you receive emails from others in the group you
can add them or not as the mood hits you.I'm open to your ideas and
suggestions as no single individual including myself will be more
important on this pilots email loop than anyone else.
If no interest, we always have what we have on these forums now. Just
an idea I'm throwing out to all of you. Remember, if you join the
group, it's YOUR group, not mine. I'm just another member.
One final thought. Although I belong to several groups like this one,
I've never tried to form one before. If you people think it's a bad
idea or it won't work for some reason, let me know will you please. I
don't want to push the idea if it's not workable.
Best to everybody
Dudley Henriques

[a[_3_]]

Your suggestion has been largely overtaken by events, Dudley. Many of
us have moved on to other sites that are moderated. The byte slingers
who have substantially distroyed this group now carry on with a
reduced audience. The email approach does not, in my view, encourage
as wide a range of meaningful responses as other forums do. Threads
are shorter, but the signal to noise ratio is a lot more favorable.

I can understand how a specialized group might find emails more
convenient, but I am among those who are mostly interested in flying
safely from point to point, mostly with the wings level. This group,
before it went rotten, actually helped me add items to my personal
checklist that I think make me a bit safer and I'm grateful for that.


..



, absent On Nov 16, 5:22*pm, Dudley Henriques >
wrote:
> Had an idea today and thought I'd throw it out here for anyone who
> might be interested.
> I belong to several pilots workgroups; one world wide comprised of
> some of the finest aerobatic pilots on the planet. We brainstorm
> together and have been instrumental in getting new rules and
> regulations adopted in the air show and display flying community that
> have saved lives. This group works quite well and it's given me an
> idea. I'm just throwing this out here to see if there's enough
> interest.
>
> Would anyone here be interested in forming an email group comprised of
> interested pilots and instructors from within the Usenet community
> (namely from RAP and RAS) who would like to have such a back channel
> email group simply to brainstorm, get acquainted,
> ask questions, have questions answered, and generally simply to be
> engaged in a good on topic friendly email loop with other pilots who
> share the same interests.
> In such a group, there is no moderator, no clowns, no flames, no
> mxsmanics, no maxies, no anyone you personally don't want in the
> group. Each pilot has control of their own group folder on their own
> email program so they can participate or pass as they wish.
> This email group need not in any way take anyone away from the Usenet
> forums if that is their thing. You can use the back channel group at
> your own leisure; send messages to the group or to an individual in
> the group. No hassles, no problems whatsoever. YOU have complete
> control over your participation. Just a group of friends with a common
> interest.
> I'm suggesting this only as an option for those who might be getting a
> snoot full of the nonsense that seems to be the new standard on the
> Usenet pilot forums. No need for anyone to leave the group or stop
> posting here as the new pilots email loop is only another option
> rather than a replacement for the forum as it exists.
>
> Anyway, if you are interested, just drop me an email and we'll start
> getting the "pilots email loop" together. I'm creating a new folder on
> my email bar named "PILOTS EMAIL GROUP. If you write in, I'll add your
> name to the group. As you receive emails from others in the group you
> can add them or not as the mood hits you.I'm open to your ideas and
> suggestions as no single individual including myself will be more
> important on this pilots email loop than anyone else.
> If no interest, we always have what we have on these forums now. Just
> an idea I'm throwing out to all of you. Remember, if you join the
> group, it's YOUR group, not mine. I'm just another member.
> One final thought. Although I belong to several groups like this one,
> I've never tried to form one before. If you people think it's a bad
> idea or it won't work for some reason, let me know will you please. I
> don't want to push the idea if it's not workable.
> Best to everybody
> Dudley Henriques
>

[Mike]

Dudley, if you are wanting to set up something like this I would recommend
something like the yahoo or google groups format. You can set up a members'
only group that gives you one email address for the group. Anyone who
transmitts a message to that email address gets their message sent to
everyone who subscribes to the group. You have one or more people that
manage subscriptions. Although the email everyone receives comes from the
group email account, contained in the message is the email address of the
poster, so people can reply directly if they wish. It's a little different
concept than what you have envisioned, but much easier to use and manage.
You also get an area where members can post files or photos.

One problem I can see with what you have proposed is if a spammer gets your
list of email addresses, they can spam everyone on the list relentlessly.
With yahoo or google groups, they only get the core email address.

"Dudley Henriques" > wrote in message
...
> Had an idea today and thought I'd throw it out here for anyone who
> might be interested.
> I belong to several pilots workgroups; one world wide comprised of
> some of the finest aerobatic pilots on the planet. We brainstorm
> together and have been instrumental in getting new rules and
> regulations adopted in the air show and display flying community that
> have saved lives. This group works quite well and it's given me an
> idea. I'm just throwing this out here to see if there's enough
> interest.
>
> Would anyone here be interested in forming an email group comprised of
> interested pilots and instructors from within the Usenet community
> (namely from RAP and RAS) who would like to have such a back channel
> email group simply to brainstorm, get acquainted,
> ask questions, have questions answered, and generally simply to be
> engaged in a good on topic friendly email loop with other pilots who
> share the same interests.
> In such a group, there is no moderator, no clowns, no flames, no
> mxsmanics, no maxies, no anyone you personally don't want in the
> group. Each pilot has control of their own group folder on their own
> email program so they can participate or pass as they wish.
> This email group need not in any way take anyone away from the Usenet
> forums if that is their thing. You can use the back channel group at
> your own leisure; send messages to the group or to an individual in
> the group. No hassles, no problems whatsoever. YOU have complete
> control over your participation. Just a group of friends with a common
> interest.
> I'm suggesting this only as an option for those who might be getting a
> snoot full of the nonsense that seems to be the new standard on the
> Usenet pilot forums. No need for anyone to leave the group or stop
> posting here as the new pilots email loop is only another option
> rather than a replacement for the forum as it exists.
>
> Anyway, if you are interested, just drop me an email and we'll start
> getting the "pilots email loop" together. I'm creating a new folder on
> my email bar named "PILOTS EMAIL GROUP. If you write in, I'll add your
> name to the group. As you receive emails from others in the group you
> can add them or not as the mood hits you.I'm open to your ideas and
> suggestions as no single individual including myself will be more
> important on this pilots email loop than anyone else.
> If no interest, we always have what we have on these forums now. Just
> an idea I'm throwing out to all of you. Remember, if you join the
> group, it's YOUR group, not mine. I'm just another member.
> One final thought. Although I belong to several groups like this one,
> I've never tried to form one before. If you people think it's a bad
> idea or it won't work for some reason, let me know will you please. I
> don't want to push the idea if it's not workable.
> Best to everybody
> Dudley Henriques
>
>

[Dudley Henriques[_2_]]

On Nov 16, 6:46*pm, a > wrote:
> Your suggestion has been largely overtaken by events, Dudley. Many of
> us have moved on to other sites that are moderated. The byte slingers
> who have substantially distroyed this group now carry on with a
> reduced audience. The email approach does not, in my view, encourage
> as wide a range of meaningful responses as other forums do. *Threads
> are shorter, but the signal to noise ratio is a lot more favorable.
>
> I can understand how a specialized group might find emails more
> convenient, but I am among those who are mostly interested in flying
> safely from point to point, mostly with the wings level. This group,
> before it went rotten, actually helped me add items to my personal
> checklist that I think make me a bit safer and I'm grateful for that.
>
> .
>
> , absent On Nov 16, 5:22*pm, Dudley Henriques >
> wrote:
>
> > Had an idea today and thought I'd throw it out here for anyone who
> > might be interested.
> > I belong to several pilots workgroups; one world wide comprised of
> > some of the finest aerobatic pilots on the planet. We brainstorm
> > together and have been instrumental in getting new rules and
> > regulations adopted in the air show and display flying community that
> > have saved lives. This group works quite well and it's given me an
> > idea. I'm just throwing this out here to see if there's enough
> > interest.
>
> > Would anyone here be interested in forming an email group comprised of
> > interested pilots and instructors from within the Usenet community
> > (namely from RAP and RAS) who would like to have such a back channel
> > email group simply to brainstorm, get acquainted,
> > ask questions, have questions answered, and generally simply to be
> > engaged in a good on topic friendly email loop with other pilots who
> > share the same interests.
> > In such a group, there is no moderator, no clowns, no flames, no
> > mxsmanics, no maxies, no anyone you personally don't want in the
> > group. Each pilot has control of their own group folder on their own
> > email program so they can participate or pass as they wish.
> > This email group need not in any way take anyone away from the Usenet
> > forums if that is their thing. You can use the back channel group at
> > your own leisure; send messages to the group or to an individual in
> > the group. No hassles, no problems whatsoever. YOU have complete
> > control over your participation. Just a group of friends with a common
> > interest.
> > I'm suggesting this only as an option for those who might be getting a
> > snoot full of the nonsense that seems to be the new standard on the
> > Usenet pilot forums. No need for anyone to leave the group or stop
> > posting here as the new pilots email loop is only another option
> > rather than a replacement for the forum as it exists.
>
> > Anyway, if you are interested, just drop me an email and we'll start
> > getting the "pilots email loop" together. I'm creating a new folder on
> > my email bar named "PILOTS EMAIL GROUP. If you write in, I'll add your
> > name to the group. As you receive emails from others in the group you
> > can add them or not as the mood hits you.I'm open to your ideas and
> > suggestions as no single individual including myself will be more
> > important on this pilots email loop than anyone else.
> > If no interest, we always have what we have on these forums now. Just
> > an idea I'm throwing out to all of you. Remember, if you join the
> > group, it's YOUR group, not mine. I'm just another member.
> > One final thought. Although I belong to several groups like this one,
> > I've never tried to form one before. If you people think it's a bad
> > idea or it won't work for some reason, let me know will you please. I
> > don't want to push the idea if it's not workable.
> > Best to everybody
> > Dudley Henriques
> >

Well, if the wider view is your thing, than I see your point
completely. In this scenario you take what comes at you however.
A group such as I'm suggesting would probably just end up being a
small group of about 50 pilots or so; but all friends and
representative of various venues in aviation. My background for
example ranges from basic primary instruction on up to advanced
aerobatics. I converse daily however with pilots who simply enjoy
flying straight and level and have no interest whatsoever in acro. The
main thing we have in common is that all of us are friends and we
enjoy hashing around with correspondence that ranges from the highly
technical question and answer session to relating how it went last
Tuesday on that $100 burger flight to the next county :-)
Anyway, it's there if you want to try it on for size. Glad to have you
on board if you're interested.
Dudley

[Dudley Henriques[_2_]]

On Nov 16, 7:04*pm, "Mike" <nospam @ aol.com> wrote:
> Dudley, if you are wanting to set up something like this I would recommend
> something like the yahoo or google groups format. *You can set up a members'
> only group that gives you one email address for the group. *Anyone who
> transmitts a message to that email address gets their message sent to
> everyone who subscribes to the group. *You have one or more people that
> manage subscriptions. *Although the email everyone receives comes from the
> group email account, contained in the message is the email address of the
> poster, so people can reply directly if they wish. *It's a little different
> concept than what you have envisioned, but much easier to use and manage.
> You also get an area where members can post files or photos.
>
> One problem I can see with what you have proposed is if a spammer gets your
> list of email addresses, they can spam everyone on the list relentlessly.
> With yahoo or google groups, they only get the core email address.
>
> "Dudley Henriques" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Had an idea today and thought I'd throw it out here for anyone who
> > might be interested.
> > I belong to several pilots workgroups; one world wide comprised of
> > some of the finest aerobatic pilots on the planet. We brainstorm
> > together and have been instrumental in getting new rules and
> > regulations adopted in the air show and display flying community that
> > have saved lives. This group works quite well and it's given me an
> > idea. I'm just throwing this out here to see if there's enough
> > interest.
>
> > Would anyone here be interested in forming an email group comprised of
> > interested pilots and instructors from within the Usenet community
> > (namely from RAP and RAS) who would like to have such a back channel
> > email group simply to brainstorm, get acquainted,
> > ask questions, have questions answered, and generally simply to be
> > engaged in a good on topic friendly email loop with other pilots who
> > share the same interests.
> > In such a group, there is no moderator, no clowns, no flames, no
> > mxsmanics, no maxies, no anyone you personally don't want in the
> > group. Each pilot has control of their own group folder on their own
> > email program so they can participate or pass as they wish.
> > This email group need not in any way take anyone away from the Usenet
> > forums if that is their thing. You can use the back channel group at
> > your own leisure; send messages to the group or to an individual in
> > the group. No hassles, no problems whatsoever. YOU have complete
> > control over your participation. Just a group of friends with a common
> > interest.
> > I'm suggesting this only as an option for those who might be getting a
> > snoot full of the nonsense that seems to be the new standard on the
> > Usenet pilot forums. No need for anyone to leave the group or stop
> > posting here as the new pilots email loop is only another option
> > rather than a replacement for the forum as it exists.
>
> > Anyway, if you are interested, just drop me an email and we'll start
> > getting the "pilots email loop" together. I'm creating a new folder on
> > my email bar named "PILOTS EMAIL GROUP. If you write in, I'll add your
> > name to the group. As you receive emails from others in the group you
> > can add them or not as the mood hits you.I'm open to your ideas and
> > suggestions as no single individual including myself will be more
> > important on this pilots email loop than anyone else.
> > If no interest, we always have what we have on these forums now. Just
> > an idea I'm throwing out to all of you. Remember, if you join the
> > group, it's YOUR group, not mine. I'm just another member.
> > One final thought. Although I belong to several groups like this one,
> > I've never tried to form one before. If you people think it's a bad
> > idea or it won't work for some reason, let me know will you please. I
> > don't want to push the idea if it's not workable.
> > Best to everybody
> > Dudley Henriques
> >

Sounds like a plan to me. I'm not that familiar with these things so
if you would like to set up such a group, just let me know and I'll be
happy to join up with you.
DH

[Mike]

"Dudley Henriques" > wrote in message
...
> Sounds like a plan to me. I'm not that familiar with these things so
> if you would like to set up such a group, just let me know and I'll be
> happy to join up with you.
> DH

I already belong to a couple of these types of groups that are aviation
related and I'm not really interested in joining another. I was just
providing a helpful suggestion towards your effort. Both yahoo and google
groups do basically the same thing, but I've heard google offers a bit more
storage space so you might want to check them out first. Both are free.

http://groups.google.com/intl/en/googlegroups/tour3/index.html

[Dudley Henriques[_2_]]

On Nov 16, 8:00*pm, "Mike" <nospam @ aol.com> wrote:
> "Dudley Henriques" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Sounds like a plan to me. I'm not that familiar with these things so
> > if you would like to set up such a group, just let me know and I'll be
> > happy to join up with you.
> > DH
>
> I already belong to a couple of these types of groups that are aviation
> related and I'm not really interested in joining another. *I was just
> providing a helpful suggestion towards your effort. *Both yahoo and google
> groups do basically the same thing, but I've heard google offers a bit more
> storage space so you might want to check them out first. *Both are free..
>
> http://groups.google.com/intl/en/googlegroups/tour3/index.html


Thanks much for the suggestion. Might be an option.
DH

[Martin X. Moleski, SJ]

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:22:36 -0800 (PST), Dudley Henriques > wrote in
>:

>Would anyone here be interested in forming an email group comprised of
>interested pilots and instructors from within the Usenet community
>(namely from RAP and RAS) who would like to have such a back channel
>email group simply to brainstorm, get acquainted,
>ask questions, have questions answered, and generally simply to be
>engaged in a good on topic friendly email loop with other pilots who
>share the same interests?

You can use Google Groups or Yahoo Groups to set up that
kind of e-mail list. Takes a few minutes and you get
a nice archive and all kinds of support for the technicalities
of managing a list:

http://groups.yahoo.com

http://groups.google.com/groups/create?lnk=gcphp

If you've got a server and the skills, you can also
set up Mailman, which would cut down on the advertising.

http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html

Marty
--
Big-8 newsgroups: humanities.*, misc.*, news.*, rec.*, sci.*, soc.*, talk.*
See http://www.big-8.org for info on how to add or remove newsgroups.

[Dudley Henriques[_2_]]

On Nov 16, 11:31*pm, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ" >
wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:22:36 -0800 (PST), Dudley Henriques > wrote in
> >:
>
> >Would anyone here be interested in forming an email group comprised of
> >interested pilots and instructors from within the Usenet community
> >(namely from RAP and RAS) who would like to have such a back channel
> >email group simply to brainstorm, get acquainted,
> >ask questions, have questions answered, and generally simply to be
> >engaged in a good on topic friendly email loop with other pilots who
> >share the same interests?
>
> You can use Google Groups or Yahoo Groups to set up that
> kind of e-mail list. *Takes a few minutes and you get
> a nice archive and all kinds of support for the technicalities
> of managing a list:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups/create?lnk=gcphp
>
> If you've got a server and the skills, you can also
> set up Mailman, which would cut down on the advertising.
>
> http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Marty
> --
> Big-8 newsgroups: humanities.*, misc.*, news.*, rec.*, sci.*, soc.*, talk..*
> Seehttp://www.big-8.orgfor info on how to add or remove newsgroups.

Thanks for the tips Marty. We're working on it.
DH

[romeomike]

Dudley Henriques wrote:
> Had an idea today and thought I'd throw it out here for anyone who
> might be interested.

Sounds like you are dedicating a separate email address to this group?
What prevents someone from spamming the group by emailing to it under
different names from different email addresses? Or what prevents
emailing the group with non-aviation related stuff? I probably don't
understand the mechanics completely.

[Dudley Henriques[_2_]]

On Nov 16, 11:46*pm, romeomike > wrote:
> Dudley Henriques wrote:
> > Had an idea today and thought I'd throw it out here for anyone who
> > might be interested.
>
> Sounds like you are dedicating a separate email address to this group?
> What prevents someone from spamming the group by emailing to it under
> different names from different email addresses? Or what prevents
> emailing the group with non-aviation related stuff? I probably don't
> understand the mechanics completely.

It's probably ME who doesn't understand all the ramifications :-)

It's just floating an idea really. So far we have 4 pilots in a simple
email loop each with a folder holding the addresses of the others.
Email can be answered or sent as desired. We don't have any filters in
use, just a few friends communicating with each other and talking
flying.
I have the same setup with my family emails.
Don't know about spamming. I'm sure it could be done, but I for one
don't get much spam as my ISP filters a lot of it out daily. In fact,
I can honestly say that spam for me anyway isn't an issue any longer.
Can't speak for the other guys but they seem happy with what we're
doing.
The main thing to remember here is that this is in no way anything
"formal".....just friends talking flying without the hassles we have
on the Usenet forums. All of us still remain here, but it's a welcome
option to have when someone wants to tell how their flight went that
day and doesn't necessarily want to be told to go to hell or what an
asshole they are in the process :-))
Dudley

[romeomike]

Dudley Henriques wrote:

> The main thing to remember here is that this is in no way anything
> "formal".....just friends talking flying without the hassles we have
> on the Usenet forums. All of us still remain here, but it's a welcome
> option to have when someone wants to tell how their flight went that
> day and doesn't necessarily want to be told to go to hell or what an
> asshole they are in the process :-))
> Dudley

I like the intent and hope it works out. I my give it a try.

[Dudley Henriques[_2_]]

On Nov 16, 11:59*pm, romeomike > wrote:
> Dudley Henriques wrote:
> > The main thing to remember here is that this is in no way anything
> > "formal".....just friends talking flying without the hassles we have
> > on the Usenet forums. All of us still remain here, but it's a welcome
> > option to have when someone wants to tell how their flight went that
> > day and doesn't necessarily want to be told to go to hell or what an
> > asshole they are in the process :-))
> > Dudley
>
> I like the intent and hope it works out. I my give it a try.

Great to have you with us if you like. Just whiz me off an email and
I'll be happy to add you to our list.
Dudley

[Ken S. Tucker]

On Nov 16, 9:57 pm, Dudley Henriques > wrote:
> On Nov 16, 11:59 pm, romeomike > wrote:
>
> > Dudley Henriques wrote:
> > > The main thing to remember here is that this is in no way anything
> > > "formal".....just friends talking flying without the hassles we have
> > > on the Usenet forums. All of us still remain here, but it's a welcome
> > > option to have when someone wants to tell how their flight went that
> > > day and doesn't necessarily want to be told to go to hell or what an
> > > asshole they are in the process :-))
> > > Dudley
>
> > I like the intent and hope it works out. I my give it a try.
>
> Great to have you with us if you like. Just whiz me off an email and
> I'll be happy to add you to our list.
> Dudley

Ok, I'll give it a shot. I belong to a couple of internet
societies like that, they seem to work well.
Regards
Ken

[Ross]

romeomike wrote:
> Dudley Henriques wrote:
>> Had an idea today and thought I'd throw it out here for anyone who
>> might be interested.
>
> Sounds like you are dedicating a separate email address to this group?
> What prevents someone from spamming the group by emailing to it under
> different names from different email addresses? Or what prevents
> emailing the group with non-aviation related stuff? I probably don't
> understand the mechanics completely.

I am familiar with setting up mail accounts. You can restrict the email
(therefore the ones that post) accounts you want on the mail list. They
work well.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI

[Dudley Henriques[_2_]]

On Nov 17, 12:52*pm, Ross > wrote:
> romeomike wrote:
> > Dudley Henriques wrote:
> >> Had an idea today and thought I'd throw it out here for anyone who
> >> might be interested.
>
> > Sounds like you are dedicating a separate email address to this group?
> > What prevents someone from spamming the group by emailing to it under
> > different names from different email addresses? Or what prevents
> > emailing the group with non-aviation related stuff? I probably don't
> > understand the mechanics completely.
>
> I am familiar with setting up mail accounts. You can restrict the email
> (therefore the ones that post) accounts you want on the mail list. They
> work well.
>
> --
>
> Regards, Ross
> C-172F 180HP
> KSWI

Our international workgroup works quite well, although I'm beginning
to find some problems associated with forming a private email group
where public announcement is involved. :-)

[romeomike]

Dudley Henriques wrote:

>
> Our international workgroup works quite well, although I'm beginning
> to find some problems associated with forming a private email group
> where public announcement is involved. :-)

Yeah, I think that may be a significant difference. Joining the
international work group you refer to, I suspect, is by invitation only,
whereas here anyone who reads this newsgroup can potentially gain access
to participants' email. They could then keep trashing the group by
changing their identity to avoid filters, as already happens here. Or
maybe, as I said before, I'm not understanding the mechanics.

I plan to join up after I figure out how I want to configure this, but
will be gone for 2 weeks first.

Regards

[Darkwing]

"romeomike" > wrote in message
...
> Dudley Henriques wrote:
>
>>
>> Our international workgroup works quite well, although I'm beginning
>> to find some problems associated with forming a private email group
>> where public announcement is involved. :-)
>
> Yeah, I think that may be a significant difference. Joining the
> international work group you refer to, I suspect, is by invitation only,
> whereas here anyone who reads this newsgroup can potentially gain access
> to participants' email. They could then keep trashing the group by
> changing their identity to avoid filters, as already happens here. Or
> maybe, as I said before, I'm not understanding the mechanics.
>
> I plan to join up after I figure out how I want to configure this, but
> will be gone for 2 weeks first.
>
> Regards

Try Yahoo Groups, the Yahoo groups I have been on in the past have always
been decent.

[Darkwing]

"Darkwing" <theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com> wrote in message
...
>
> "romeomike" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Dudley Henriques wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Our international workgroup works quite well, although I'm beginning
>>> to find some problems associated with forming a private email group
>>> where public announcement is involved. :-)
>>
>> Yeah, I think that may be a significant difference. Joining the
>> international work group you refer to, I suspect, is by invitation only,
>> whereas here anyone who reads this newsgroup can potentially gain access
>> to participants' email. They could then keep trashing the group by
>> changing their identity to avoid filters, as already happens here. Or
>> maybe, as I said before, I'm not understanding the mechanics.
>>
>> I plan to join up after I figure out how I want to configure this, but
>> will be gone for 2 weeks first.
>>
>> Regards
>
> Try Yahoo Groups, the Yahoo groups I have been on in the past have always
> been decent.

Oops! I see someone already recommended that.

[ColSteve]

OPEN BLOG WITH MODERATED COMMENTS
Simple and quick

[Dudley Henriques[_2_]]

On Nov 17, 1:52*pm, romeomike > wrote:
> Dudley Henriques wrote:
>
> > Our international workgroup works quite well, although I'm beginning
> > to find some problems associated with forming a private email group
> > where public announcement is involved. :-)
>
> Yeah, I think that may be a significant difference. Joining the
> international work group you refer to, I suspect, is by invitation only,
> whereas here anyone who reads this newsgroup can potentially gain access
> to participants' email. They could then keep trashing the group by
> changing their identity to avoid filters, as already happens here. Or
> maybe, as I said before, I'm not understanding the mechanics.
>
> I plan to join up after I figure out how I want to configure this, but
> will be gone for 2 weeks first.
>
> Regards

I think what we appear to be ending up with is quite simple and not
complicated at all. So far, it looks like a simple email loop
comprised of pilots contacting me off the forum. Most of us already
know each other from the forums and have prior knowledge that we get
along.
All we're doing is setting up a folder in our individual address
books that contains each of us as a group (just like a normal family
folder) and we communicate simply as friends with a common interest.
No big deal really and surely nothing "complicated".
All this means is that if one of us has a war story we'd like to share
with the others, we can do that either as a group or individually as
we see fit. The main difference is that we're not "posting" to the
world of idiots these forums have become.
Of course, if the mood hits us to take the punishment we find here,
naturally each one of us is free as a bird to come here and be
abused. :-)
In other words, what we're doing is simply gathering up a few pilots
who have become shall we say "a bit discouraged" with what's going
here these days and we're simply talking to each other back once in a
while when the mood hits us.
If anyone wanted to opt out of our little group, I think all they
would have to do is take their name off the list. Our email addresses
are only known to each other and so far anyway, we all seem to be
quite stable and normal folks :-)
One thing we are doing however is sending out the name of each person
who wants to join the group to all members of the group. We vote on
who we want with us based on the same criteria we used on each other.
Bad vote.....no new member....easy! So you can see by this that the
pilots on this little group of ours are friendly, competent, and
interested in aviation....ANY form of that venue BTW.
Dudley Henriques

[Ken S. Tucker]

Hi Dud.

On Nov 17, 1:58 pm, Dudley Henriques > wrote:
> On Nov 17, 1:52 pm, romeomike > wrote:
>
>
>
> > Dudley Henriques wrote:
>
> > > Our international workgroup works quite well, although I'm beginning
> > > to find some problems associated with forming a private email group
> > > where public announcement is involved. :-)
>
> > Yeah, I think that may be a significant difference. Joining the
> > international work group you refer to, I suspect, is by invitation only,
> > whereas here anyone who reads this newsgroup can potentially gain access
> > to participants' email. They could then keep trashing the group by
> > changing their identity to avoid filters, as already happens here. Or
> > maybe, as I said before, I'm not understanding the mechanics.
>
> > I plan to join up after I figure out how I want to configure this, but
> > will be gone for 2 weeks first.
>
> > Regards
>
> I think what we appear to be ending up with is quite simple and not
> complicated at all. So far, it looks like a simple email loop
> comprised of pilots contacting me off the forum. Most of us already
> know each other from the forums and have prior knowledge that we get
> along.
> All we're doing is setting up a folder in our individual address
> books that contains each of us as a group (just like a normal family
> folder) and we communicate simply as friends with a common interest.
> No big deal really and surely nothing "complicated".
> All this means is that if one of us has a war story we'd like to share
> with the others, we can do that either as a group or individually as
> we see fit. The main difference is that we're not "posting" to the
> world of idiots these forums have become.
> Of course, if the mood hits us to take the punishment we find here,
> naturally each one of us is free as a bird to come here and be
> abused. :-)
> In other words, what we're doing is simply gathering up a few pilots
> who have become shall we say "a bit discouraged" with what's going
> here these days and we're simply talking to each other back once in a
> while when the mood hits us.
> If anyone wanted to opt out of our little group, I think all they
> would have to do is take their name off the list. Our email addresses
> are only known to each other and so far anyway, we all seem to be
> quite stable and normal folks :-)
> One thing we are doing however is sending out the name of each person
> who wants to join the group to all members of the group. We vote on
> who we want with us based on the same criteria we used on each other.
> Bad vote.....no new member....easy! So you can see by this that the
> pilots on this little group of ours are friendly, competent, and
> interested in aviation....ANY form of that venue BTW.
> Dudley Henriques

You have good intentions and ideas.
We belong to a few email circles, normally for professional
scientists and engineers, usually set-up by pro-software
engineers, for example,
http://sugarshot.org/

The amateur circle you want to set-up works well enuff
too, BUT, if you're serious, contact the software manager
at the above org.
Regards
Ken
PS: If you intend to be the smartest poster in your circle,
you'll likely end up being the only poster.

[Bear Bottoms[_4_]]

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:51:40 -0800 (PST), Ken S. Tucker wrote:

>> Dudley Henriques
>
> You have good intentions and ideas.
> We belong to a few email circles, normally for professional
> scientists and engineers, usually set-up by pro-software
> engineers, for example,
> http://sugarshot.org/
>
> The amateur circle you want to set-up works well enuff
> too, BUT, if you're serious, contact the software manager
> at the above org.
> Regards
> Ken
> PS: If you intend to be the smartest poster in your circle,
> you'll likely end up being the only poster.

He's safe.
--
Bear Bottoms
website: http://bearware.com

[Martin Hotze[_2_]]

ColSteve schrieb:
> OPEN BLOG WITH MODERATED COMMENTS
> Simple and quick

oh yeah .. discuss on usenet how to pull people away to other ways of
communication. neat.

#m

[Ross]

Dudley Henriques wrote:
snip

> who have become shall we say "a bit discouraged" with what's going
> here these days and we're simply talking to each other back once in a
> while when the mood hits us.
> If anyone wanted to opt out of our little group, I think all they
> would have to do is take their name off the list. Our email addresses
> are only known to each other and so far anyway, we all seem to be
> quite stable and normal folks :-)
> One thing we are doing however is sending out the name of each person
> who wants to join the group to all members of the group. We vote on
> who we want with us based on the same criteria we used on each other.
> Bad vote.....no new member....easy! So you can see by this that the
> pilots on this little group of ours are friendly, competent, and
> interested in aviation....ANY form of that venue BTW.
> Dudley Henriques

Dudley,

Did you ever get the email I sent to you privately?

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI

[Dudley Henriques[_2_]]

On Nov 19, 12:56*pm, Ross > wrote:
> Dudley Henriques wrote:
>
> snip
>
> > who have become shall we say "a bit discouraged" with what's going
> > here these days and we're simply talking to each other back once in a
> > while when the mood hits us.
> > If anyone wanted to opt out of our little group, I think all they
> > would have to do is take their name off the list. Our email addresses
> > are only known to each other and so far anyway, we all seem to be
> > quite stable and normal folks :-)
> > One thing we are doing however is sending out the name of each person
> > who wants to join the group to all members of the group. We vote on
> > who we want with us based on the same criteria we used on each other.
> > Bad vote.....no new member....easy! So you can see by this that the
> > pilots on this little group of ours are friendly, competent, and
> > interested in aviation....ANY form of that venue BTW.
> > Dudley Henriques
>
> Dudley,
>
> Did you ever get the email I sent to you privately?
>
> --
>
> Regards, Ross
> C-172F 180HP
> KSWI

Hi Ross;

Nothing came in so far.
Dudley

[Ross]

Dudley Henriques wrote:
> On Nov 19, 12:56 pm, Ross > wrote:
>> Dudley Henriques wrote:
>>
>> snip
>>
>>> who have become shall we say "a bit discouraged" with what's going
>>> here these days and we're simply talking to each other back once in a
>>> while when the mood hits us.
>>> If anyone wanted to opt out of our little group, I think all they
>>> would have to do is take their name off the list. Our email addresses
>>> are only known to each other and so far anyway, we all seem to be
>>> quite stable and normal folks :-)
>>> One thing we are doing however is sending out the name of each person
>>> who wants to join the group to all members of the group. We vote on
>>> who we want with us based on the same criteria we used on each other.
>>> Bad vote.....no new member....easy! So you can see by this that the
>>> pilots on this little group of ours are friendly, competent, and
>>> interested in aviation....ANY form of that venue BTW.
>>> Dudley Henriques
>> Dudley,
>>
>> Did you ever get the email I sent to you privately?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards, Ross
>> C-172F 180HP
>> KSWI
>
> Hi Ross;
>
> Nothing came in so far.
> Dudley

Hmmmmm?????

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI

[Dudley Henriques[_2_]]

On Nov 19, 3:00*pm, Ross > wrote:
> Dudley Henriques wrote:
> > On Nov 19, 12:56 pm, Ross > wrote:
> >> Dudley Henriques wrote:
>
> >> snip
>
> >>> who have become shall we say "a bit discouraged" with what's going
> >>> here these days and we're simply talking to each other back once in a
> >>> while when the mood hits us.
> >>> If anyone wanted to opt out of our little group, I think all they
> >>> would have to do is take their name off the list. Our email addresses
> >>> are only known to each other and so far anyway, we all seem to be
> >>> quite stable and normal folks :-)
> >>> One thing we are doing however is sending out the name of each person
> >>> who wants to join the group to all members of the group. We vote on
> >>> who we want with us based on the same criteria we used on each other.
> >>> Bad vote.....no new member....easy! So you can see by this that the
> >>> pilots on this little group of ours are friendly, competent, and
> >>> interested in aviation....ANY form of that venue BTW.
> >>> Dudley Henriques
> >> Dudley,
>
> >> Did you ever get the email I sent to you privately?
>
> >> --
>
> >> Regards, Ross
> >> C-172F 180HP
> >> KSWI
>
> > Hi Ross;
>
> > Nothing came in so far.
> > Dudley
>
> Hmmmmm?????
>
> --
>
> Regards, Ross
> C-172F 180HP
> KSWI

Should be a simple email Ross.

[Bear Bottoms[_4_]]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:04:43 -0800 (PST), Dudley Henriques wrote:

> On Nov 19, 3:00*pm, Ross > wrote:
>> Dudley Henriques wrote:
>>> On Nov 19, 12:56 pm, Ross > wrote:
>>>> Dudley Henriques wrote:
>>
>>>> snip
>>
>>>>> who have become shall we say "a bit discouraged" with what's going
>>>>> here these days and we're simply talking to each other back once in a
>>>>> while when the mood hits us.
>>>>> If anyone wanted to opt out of our little group, I think all they
>>>>> would have to do is take their name off the list. Our email addresses
>>>>> are only known to each other and so far anyway, we all seem to be
>>>>> quite stable and normal folks :-)
>>>>> One thing we are doing however is sending out the name of each person
>>>>> who wants to join the group to all members of the group. We vote on
>>>>> who we want with us based on the same criteria we used on each other.
>>>>> Bad vote.....no new member....easy! So you can see by this that the
>>>>> pilots on this little group of ours are friendly, competent, and
>>>>> interested in aviation....ANY form of that venue BTW.
>>>>> Dudley Henriques
>>>> Dudley,
>>
>>>> Did you ever get the email I sent to you privately?
>>
>>>> --
>>
>>>> Regards, Ross
>>>> C-172F 180HP
>>>> KSWI
>>
>>> Hi Ross;
>>
>>> Nothing came in so far.
>>> Dudley
>>
>> Hmmmmm?????
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards, Ross
>> C-172F 180HP
>> KSWI
>
> Should be a simple email Ross.

Told you not to **** with me.
--
Bear Bottoms
website: http://bearware.com

[Darkwing]

"Bear Bottoms" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:04:43 -0800 (PST), Dudley Henriques wrote:
>
>> On Nov 19, 3:00 pm, Ross > wrote:
>>> Dudley Henriques wrote:
>>>> On Nov 19, 12:56 pm, Ross > wrote:
>>>>> Dudley Henriques wrote:
>>>
>>>>> snip
>>>
>>>>>> who have become shall we say "a bit discouraged" with what's going
>>>>>> here these days and we're simply talking to each other back once in a
>>>>>> while when the mood hits us.
>>>>>> If anyone wanted to opt out of our little group, I think all they
>>>>>> would have to do is take their name off the list. Our email addresses
>>>>>> are only known to each other and so far anyway, we all seem to be
>>>>>> quite stable and normal folks :-)
>>>>>> One thing we are doing however is sending out the name of each person
>>>>>> who wants to join the group to all members of the group. We vote on
>>>>>> who we want with us based on the same criteria we used on each other.
>>>>>> Bad vote.....no new member....easy! So you can see by this that the
>>>>>> pilots on this little group of ours are friendly, competent, and
>>>>>> interested in aviation....ANY form of that venue BTW.
>>>>>> Dudley Henriques
>>>>> Dudley,
>>>
>>>>> Did you ever get the email I sent to you privately?
>>>
>>>>> --
>>>
>>>>> Regards, Ross
>>>>> C-172F 180HP
>>>>> KSWI
>>>
>>>> Hi Ross;
>>>
>>>> Nothing came in so far.
>>>> Dudley
>>>
>>> Hmmmmm?????
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Regards, Ross
>>> C-172F 180HP
>>> KSWI
>>
>> Should be a simple email Ross.
>
> Told you not to **** with me.
> --
> Bear Bottoms
> website: http://bearware.com

Douche.