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[Mitchell Holman[_2_]]

[Bruce R]

"Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
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Working on an R/C version, would you have any in the Central Flying School
airshow trim scheme ?

Bruce

[Mitchell Holman[_2_]]

"Bruce R" > wrote in news:49309c25$0$17065
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> "Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
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> Working on an R/C version, would you have any in the Central Flying School
> airshow trim scheme ?
>
> Bruce
>
>
>


Everything I have is either active naval service
or the Red Arrows demo team.

[RustY ©]

"Bruce R" > wrote in message
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> Working on an R/C version, would you have any in the Central Flying School
> airshow trim scheme ?
>

What scheme is that Bruce ?

[Bruce R]

"RustY ©" > wrote in message
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> What scheme is that Bruce ?
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>
>
Blue/black airframe, Union jack stripes painted along the fuse, St Andrews
cross on the empenage. This is the best view I have of it, but the model
people always *******ize the markings and I wanted to see where it departed
from the original design. I have an F-4 ducted fan that has both Navy and
Army markings on it. Anyhow here's a link to show you what scheme I was
talking about.


http://www.e-fliterc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFL8025



Bruce

[®i©ardo]

Bruce R wrote:
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> "RustY ©" > wrote in message
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>> What scheme is that Bruce ?
>>
>>
>>
> Blue/black airframe, Union jack stripes painted along the fuse, St
> Andrews cross on the empenage. This is the best view I have of it, but
> the model people always *******ize the markings and I wanted to see
> where it departed from the original design. I have an F-4 ducted fan
> that has both Navy and Army markings on it. Anyhow here's a link to
> show you what scheme I was talking about.
>
>
> http://www.e-fliterc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFL8025
>
>
>
> Bruce
>
>

That on the "empenage" or empennage is, in fact, the union flag *not*
the cross of St Andrew which forms a part of it!

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[Pointer]

"®i©ardo" > wrote in message
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> Bruce R wrote:
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>> "RustY ©" > wrote in message
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>>> What scheme is that Bruce ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Blue/black airframe, Union jack stripes painted along the fuse, St
>> Andrews cross on the empenage. This is the best view I have of it, but
>> the model people always *******ize the markings and I wanted to see where
>> it departed from the original design. I have an F-4 ducted fan that has
>> both Navy and Army markings on it. Anyhow here's a link to show you
>> what scheme I was talking about.
>>
>>
>> http://www.e-fliterc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFL8025
>>
>>
>>
>> Bruce
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>>
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> That on the "empenage" or empennage is, in fact, the union flag *not* the
> cross of St Andrew which forms a part of it!



http://valleyaviationsociety.net/Coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=lastup&cat=0

How about this? does that answer your question?
Cheers
P

[Bruce R]

"®i©ardo" > wrote in message
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> That on the "empenage" or empennage is, in fact, the union flag *not* the
> cross of St Andrew which forms a part of it!
>
> --
> Moving things in still pictures!
Of course, you're right, it is the Jack. The Cross is part of it, of
course. We have part of it as well.
Yeah we got the cross in the Fla state flag. The Great Seal of Florida on
the center where the bars cross. When you hang the flag (which is a solid
white background field) up by one end, it looks like a pair of suspenders
(bg).

Bruce

[RustY ©]

"Bruce R" > wrote in message
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> Blue/black airframe, Union jack stripes painted along the fuse, St Andrews
> cross on the empenage.

The link you supplied goes to a Hawk scheme that I don't remember flying.
The RAF training hawks started to be painted with the blue tops in the
mid-eighties and were mostly repainted black by the mid-nineties. I wonder
if this is a piece of modellers license? Anyway you mentioned a black
airframe so how about this one that was an official display jet a few years
ago.

[®i©ardo]

Pointer wrote:
> "®i©ardo" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Bruce R wrote:
>>> "RustY ©" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> What scheme is that Bruce ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Blue/black airframe, Union jack stripes painted along the fuse, St
>>> Andrews cross on the empenage. This is the best view I have of it, but
>>> the model people always *******ize the markings and I wanted to see where
>>> it departed from the original design. I have an F-4 ducted fan that has
>>> both Navy and Army markings on it. Anyhow here's a link to show you
>>> what scheme I was talking about.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.e-fliterc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFL8025
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>
>> That on the "empenage" or empennage is, in fact, the union flag *not* the
>> cross of St Andrew which forms a part of it!
>
>
>
> http://valleyaviationsociety.net/Coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=lastup&cat=0
>
> How about this? does that answer your question?
> Cheers
> P
>
>
Superb site, thanks for sharing.

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[®i©ardo]

Bruce R wrote:
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> "®i©ardo" > wrote in message
> ...
>> That on the "empenage" or empennage is, in fact, the union flag *not*
>> the cross of St Andrew which forms a part of it!
>>
>> --
>> Moving things in still pictures!
> Of course, you're right, it is the Jack. The Cross is part of it, of
> course. We have part of it as well.
> Yeah we got the cross in the Fla state flag. The Great Seal of Florida
> on the center where the bars cross. When you hang the flag (which is a
> solid white background field) up by one end, it looks like a pair of
> suspenders (bg).
>
> Bruce

Ah, that's American suspenders rather than British ones I take it?

;-)

The only shame is that Wales is not represented on our flag. No, I'm not
Welsh, but they deserve better in that respect.

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[Bruce R]

"®i©ardo" > wrote in message
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> Ah, that's American suspenders rather than British ones I take it?
>
> ;-)
>
> The only shame is that Wales is not represented on our flag. No, I'm not
> Welsh, but they deserve better in that respect.
>
> --
> Moving things in still pictures!

Old man suspenders. don't think they have any particular group in mind
<lol>

Agreed about Wales. You don't hear much about Wales, no Robert the Bruce or
William Wallace, they really are the Rodney Dangerfield of the British
Isles.

Bruce

[Bruce R]

"RustY ©" > wrote in message
...

>
> The link you supplied goes to a Hawk scheme that I don't remember flying.
> The RAF training hawks started to be painted with the blue tops in the
> mid-eighties and were mostly repainted black by the mid-nineties. I
> wonder
> if this is a piece of modellers license? Anyway you mentioned a black
> airframe so how about this one that was an official display jet a few
> years
> ago.
>
That's what I figured. It probably was done to provide the R/C pilot
something to reference while in flight. Little plane, low contrast, easy to
lose reference to it and have it fly away on you. Particularly when it's
moving at speed.

Bruce

[®i©ardo]

Bruce R wrote:
>
> "®i©ardo" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Ah, that's American suspenders rather than British ones I take it?
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> The only shame is that Wales is not represented on our flag. No, I'm
>> not Welsh, but they deserve better in that respect.
>>
>> --
>> Moving things in still pictures!
>
> Old man suspenders. don't think they have any particular group in mind
> <lol>
>
You obviously missed the point of my comment.

> Agreed about Wales. You don't hear much about Wales, no Robert the
> Bruce or William Wallace, they really are the Rodney Dangerfield of the
> British Isles.
>
> Bruce
>

Well, they did have Owen Glendower!

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[®i©ardo]

®i©ardo wrote:
> Bruce R wrote:
>>
>> "®i©ardo" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> Ah, that's American suspenders rather than British ones I take it?
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> The only shame is that Wales is not represented on our flag. No, I'm
>>> not Welsh, but they deserve better in that respect.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Moving things in still pictures!
>>
>> Old man suspenders. don't think they have any particular group in
>> mind <lol>
>>
> You obviously missed the point of my comment.
>
>> Agreed about Wales. You don't hear much about Wales, no Robert the
>> Bruce or William Wallace, they really are the Rodney Dangerfield of
>> the British Isles.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>
> Well, they did have Owen Glendower!
>
>
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>
My apologies for the last post - here is the image at a better size,
plus another relating to the endeavours of this Welsh hero.

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[Bruce R]

"®i©ardo" > wrote in message
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> My apologies for the last post - here is the image at a better size,
> plus another relating to the endeavours of this Welsh hero.
>
Ok so tell my ignorant personage the story then, or better yet the link to
go read up on it.

Bruce

[®i©ardo]

Bruce R wrote:
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> "®i©ardo" > wrote in message
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>> My apologies for the last post - here is the image at a better size,
>> plus another relating to the endeavours of this Welsh hero.
>>
> Ok so tell my ignorant personage the story then, or better yet the link
> to go read up on it.
>
> Bruce

A stirring tale of the man voted in at 23rd in a poll of 100 Greatest
Britons in 2000, and best told by Welshmen, I think:

http://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/Wales-History/Glendower.htm

....and there's more here>

http://www.nndb.com/people/292/000092016/

The mosaics that I posted were at Aberystwyth Castle, which was built in
1277 by the English King, Edward I.

Sorry, I've gone off-topic with this, but Wales is home to RAF Valley
from which many of the Hawk training flights take place!

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[Bob]

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:42:01 -0500, "Bruce R" >
wrote:

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>"®i©ardo" > wrote in message
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>>
>> Ah, that's American suspenders rather than British ones I take it?
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> The only shame is that Wales is not represented on our flag. No, I'm not
>> Welsh, but they deserve better in that respect.
>>
>> --
>> Moving things in still pictures!
>
>Old man suspenders. don't think they have any particular group in mind
><lol>
>
>Agreed about Wales. You don't hear much about Wales, no Robert the Bruce or
>William Wallace, they really are the Rodney Dangerfield of the British
>Isles.

No kidding...

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/11/welsh-road-sign.html

[Bob]

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:35:26 +0000, ®i©ardo > wrote:

>Bruce R wrote:
>>
>> "®i©ardo" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> Ah, that's American suspenders rather than British ones I take it?
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> The only shame is that Wales is not represented on our flag. No, I'm
>>> not Welsh, but they deserve better in that respect.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Moving things in still pictures!
>>
>> Old man suspenders. don't think they have any particular group in mind
>> <lol>
>>
>You obviously missed the point of my comment.
>
>> Agreed about Wales. You don't hear much about Wales, no Robert the
>> Bruce or William Wallace, they really are the Rodney Dangerfield of the
>> British Isles.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>
>Well, they did have Owen Glendower!

Is he the one about to get arrows in both places arrows oughtn't to be
got?

[®i©ardo]

Bob wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:35:26 +0000, ®i©ardo > wrote:
>
>> Bruce R wrote:
>>> "®i©ardo" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Ah, that's American suspenders rather than British ones I take it?
>>>>
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> The only shame is that Wales is not represented on our flag. No, I'm
>>>> not Welsh, but they deserve better in that respect.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Moving things in still pictures!
>>> Old man suspenders. don't think they have any particular group in mind
>>> <lol>
>>>
>> You obviously missed the point of my comment.
>>
>>> Agreed about Wales. You don't hear much about Wales, no Robert the
>>> Bruce or William Wallace, they really are the Rodney Dangerfield of the
>>> British Isles.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>> Well, they did have Owen Glendower!
>
> Is he the one about to get arrows in both places arrows oughtn't to be
> got?

Well, he might have suffered the slings and arrows of outrageous
fortune, but the cause of his death is unknown.

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[Pointer]

"Bruce R" > wrote in message
g.com...

> That's what I figured. It probably was done to provide the R/C pilot
> something to reference while in flight. Little plane, low contrast, easy
> to lose reference to it and have it fly away on you. Particularly when
> it's moving at speed.
>
> Bruce
>

'Losing reference' for an RC model flier usually means losing track of the
model's orientation and pulling 'up' whilst inverted.
More bin bags of Balsa have been filled in that way! :-(
Can get expensive!
P