F14D 161159 NAM Pensacola Sep2008 - Contact Sheet

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"ac249" > rudely blurted out
. uk:

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Thanks for posting. A great walk-around.


*********************
Here's *my* funny sig from an ABPA thread on 08/16/08:
Alan Erskine > says... "I've got an IQ of 151"
"I'm in the 99th percentile for my age group - that's the top 1 percent"
(nice math there, Einstein!) "I doubt very strongly that you know
anyone in my range of IQ" (Neither do you, Einstein)
Lee > discussing newsserver retention:
"...I can go back about 6 months to locate files..."
Alan Erskine > interrupts with:
"Why should we wait for six months to download an image
that was posted yesterday?"

[ac249]

I have more from the F18A outside and all those wonderful historic USN
aircraft on the inside. I have never been to Pensacola before but can only
say that for me, it is the best museum I have visited. I daresay many North
American enthusiasts who cannot get to Europe would feel equally excited by
the Shuttleworth Trust at Old Warden, the IWM at Duxford, the RAF Museums at
Hendon and Cosford and many more over on this side of the pond, but for me
it was a pilgrimage to see so many aeroplanes that I have been seeing on
film and in pictures over 50 odd years but have never actually walked up to
and touched. The very fact that you could touch and walk up to the
aeroplanes and look in cockpits that are reachable from the ground. In
addition it was so well set out. I would urge anybody who can get there to
go. It's a fair drive, 450 miles or so, from Orlando for those Europeans
holidaying there, but I went to the USAF Armament museum at Hurlbert as well
which has many aircraft outside as well as T33, P47 and F105 inside along
with all the weapons on show. They were free also. See the MOAB at the doors
to the museum attached. At last I could walk around a B47. I might add that
I really enjoyed my 5 days in Pensacola Beach as well. Let's face it, two
mornings spent wandering around the museum plus dropping in for lunch at
it's excellent Cubi Point Bar (holding all the memorabilia of navy and
marine WESTPAC cruises from the original Cubi Point), with my long suffering
wife - who enjoyed some nice quiet mornings on a, nearly deserted, beautiful
beach outside the hotel. If you do go, can I recommend the Holiday Inn
Express on Pensacola Beach. Great place and great staff. Not what you
imagine from most Holiday Inn Express hotels. We intend going back as soon
as we can afford it, which may be a while with the currency situation at
present.

"Lee" > wrote in message
6.99...
> "ac249" > rudely blurted out
> . uk:
>
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[ac249]

A final one that I found I had taken on Day 2. More to come over the
following days.
A great Xmas to everybody and thank you for entertaining so much as well as
all those photos.
Mike
"ac249"
>

[Les Matheson]

As a local resident, I thank you for the glowing review of our area. The Chamber of
Commerce thanks you , too.

One correction, however, The Air Force Armament Museum is outside the main gate of
Eglin AFB, not Hurlburt Field (which has its own nice collection).

Les

"ac249" > wrote in message
. uk...
> I have more from the F18A outside and all those wonderful historic USN
> aircraft on the inside. I have never been to Pensacola before but can only
> say that for me, it is the best museum I have visited. I daresay many North
> American enthusiasts who cannot get to Europe would feel equally excited by
> the Shuttleworth Trust at Old Warden, the IWM at Duxford, the RAF Museums at
> Hendon and Cosford and many more over on this side of the pond, but for me
> it was a pilgrimage to see so many aeroplanes that I have been seeing on
> film and in pictures over 50 odd years but have never actually walked up to
> and touched. The very fact that you could touch and walk up to the
> aeroplanes and look in cockpits that are reachable from the ground. In
> addition it was so well set out. I would urge anybody who can get there to
> go. It's a fair drive, 450 miles or so, from Orlando for those Europeans
> holidaying there, but I went to the USAF Armament museum at Hurlbert as well
> which has many aircraft outside as well as T33, P47 and F105 inside along
> with all the weapons on show. They were free also. See the MOAB at the doors
> to the museum attached. At last I could walk around a B47. I might add that
> I really enjoyed my 5 days in Pensacola Beach as well. Let's face it, two
> mornings spent wandering around the museum plus dropping in for lunch at
> it's excellent Cubi Point Bar (holding all the memorabilia of navy and
> marine WESTPAC cruises from the original Cubi Point), with my long suffering
> wife - who enjoyed some nice quiet mornings on a, nearly deserted, beautiful
> beach outside the hotel. If you do go, can I recommend the Holiday Inn
> Express on Pensacola Beach. Great place and great staff. Not what you
> imagine from most Holiday Inn Express hotels. We intend going back as soon
> as we can afford it, which may be a while with the currency situation at
> present.
>
> "Lee" > wrote in message
> 6.99...
> > "ac249" > rudely blurted out
> > . uk:
> >
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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> >> end
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for posting. A great walk-around.
> >
> >
> > *********************
> > Here's *my* funny sig from an ABPA thread on 08/16/08:
> > Alan Erskine > says... "I've got an IQ of 151"
> > "I'm in the 99th percentile for my age group - that's the top 1 percent"
> > (nice math there, Einstein!) "I doubt very strongly that you know
> > anyone in my range of IQ" (Neither do you, Einstein)
> > Lee > discussing newsserver retention:
> > "...I can go back about 6 months to locate files..."
> > Alan Erskine > interrupts with:
> > "Why should we wait for six months to download an image
> > that was posted yesterday?"
>
>
>

[ac249]

Hi Les,
Thanks for the correction I got the feeling that Eglin and Hurlbert were all
one absolutely massive military area. I know better now. I stopped at the
main gate at Hurlbert to ask the way and wanted to photograph their spec ops
aircraft just inside the gate but, like a fool, it was early morning and
they were very busy so I just turned away as I didn't want to hassle them. I
should have stopped on the way back into Pensacola but was too knackered
after wandering about for a 2 or 3 hours in the sun at Eglin photographing
all the exhibits. You're a lucky man living around there. Then again, I can
jump in the motor and be in Hendon, Duxford or Old Warden within an hour so
I shouldn't moan at all.
I'll be back within a couple of years and this time I'll come back before
the Blues finish their Weekly practice sessions. I am so P'd off that I
missed being able to sit in the bleachers and watch them.
Cheers
Mike

"Les Matheson" > wrote in message
...
> As a local resident, I thank you for the glowing review of our area. The
> Chamber of
> Commerce thanks you , too.
>
> One correction, however, The Air Force Armament Museum is outside the
> main gate of
> Eglin AFB, not Hurlburt Field (which has its own nice collection).
>
> Les
>
> "ac249" > wrote in message
> . uk...
>> I have more from the F18A outside and all those wonderful historic USN
>> aircraft on the inside. I have never been to Pensacola before but can
>> only
>> say that for me, it is the best museum I have visited. I daresay many
>> North
>> American enthusiasts who cannot get to Europe would feel equally excited
>> by
>> the Shuttleworth Trust at Old Warden, the IWM at Duxford, the RAF Museums
>> at
>> Hendon and Cosford and many more over on this side of the pond, but for
>> me
>> it was a pilgrimage to see so many aeroplanes that I have been seeing on
>> film and in pictures over 50 odd years but have never actually walked up
>> to
>> and touched. The very fact that you could touch and walk up to the
>> aeroplanes and look in cockpits that are reachable from the ground. In
>> addition it was so well set out. I would urge anybody who can get there
>> to
>> go. It's a fair drive, 450 miles or so, from Orlando for those Europeans
>> holidaying there, but I went to the USAF Armament museum at Hurlbert as
>> well
>> which has many aircraft outside as well as T33, P47 and F105 inside
>> along
>> with all the weapons on show. They were free also. See the MOAB at the
>> doors
>> to the museum attached. At last I could walk around a B47. I might add
>> that
>> I really enjoyed my 5 days in Pensacola Beach as well. Let's face it, two
>> mornings spent wandering around the museum plus dropping in for lunch at
>> it's excellent Cubi Point Bar (holding all the memorabilia of navy and
>> marine WESTPAC cruises from the original Cubi Point), with my long
>> suffering
>> wife - who enjoyed some nice quiet mornings on a, nearly deserted,
>> beautiful
>> beach outside the hotel. If you do go, can I recommend the Holiday Inn
>> Express on Pensacola Beach. Great place and great staff. Not what you
>> imagine from most Holiday Inn Express hotels. We intend going back as
>> soon
>> as we can afford it, which may be a while with the currency situation at
>> present.
>>
>> "Lee" > wrote in message
>> 6.99...
>> > "ac249" > rudely blurted out
>> > . uk:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> begin 666
>> >> 200809_NAM_Pensacola_F14D_161159_last_combat_sorti e_ac_14.jpg
>> >>
>> >> Attachment decoded:
>> >> 200809_NAM_Pensacola_F14D_161159_last_combat_sorti e_ac_14.jpg `
>> >> end
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks for posting. A great walk-around.
>> >
>> >
>> > *********************
>> > Here's *my* funny sig from an ABPA thread on 08/16/08:
>> > Alan Erskine > says... "I've got an IQ of 151"
>> > "I'm in the 99th percentile for my age group - that's the top 1
>> > percent"
>> > (nice math there, Einstein!) "I doubt very strongly that you know
>> > anyone in my range of IQ" (Neither do you, Einstein)
>> > Lee > discussing newsserver retention:
>> > "...I can go back about 6 months to locate files..."
>> > Alan Erskine > interrupts with:
>> > "Why should we wait for six months to download an image
>> > that was posted yesterday?"
>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Pensacola Beachcomber[_2_]]

Mike,
You don't have to sit in the bleachers. You can stand with me, to
the west of the bleachers, along with all of the other guys with long
lenses. There is an area to the east of the roped off area where
photographers can stand outside the safety zone. That was created when
I complained that the new bleachers took away the area along the taxiway
where serious photographers liked to stand. The area to the east is
good except for a few times when a safety monitor might not kneel and
get down when the sneak pass comes along.
We hope to see you here. If you do return be sure and get in touch
with us via e-mail first. We know where some really good restaurants
are located and they are not the most expensive in town.
You mention the busy traffic. I don't even go past the turnoff to
Pensacola Beach on Highway 98. It's too much like driving in a city.
We stay to the west of Pensacola except for our forays across the bay to
visit Santa Rosa Island.
Sounds like you are in a real historical patch. Our little village by
the sea was under British rule from 1763 to 1781. That's why we fly the
Union Jack as one of our five flags.
At the Headquarters on the Naval Air Station is a stone monument in
honor of the 4,000 plus British and Canadian pilots trained here in
World War II.
Regards, Tom in Pensacola

ac249 wrote:
> Hi Les,
> Thanks for the correction I got the feeling that Eglin and Hurlbert were all
> one absolutely massive military area. I know better now. I stopped at the
> main gate at Hurlbert to ask the way and wanted to photograph their spec ops
> aircraft just inside the gate but, like a fool, it was early morning and
> they were very busy so I just turned away as I didn't want to hassle them. I
> should have stopped on the way back into Pensacola but was too knackered
> after wandering about for a 2 or 3 hours in the sun at Eglin photographing
> all the exhibits. You're a lucky man living around there. Then again, I can
> jump in the motor and be in Hendon, Duxford or Old Warden within an hour so
> I shouldn't moan at all.
> I'll be back within a couple of years and this time I'll come back before
> the Blues finish their Weekly practice sessions. I am so P'd off that I
> missed being able to sit in the bleachers and watch them.
> Cheers
> Mike
>
> "Les Matheson" > wrote in message
> ...
>> As a local resident, I thank you for the glowing review of our area. The
>> Chamber of
>> Commerce thanks you , too.
>>
>> One correction, however, The Air Force Armament Museum is outside the
>> main gate of
>> Eglin AFB, not Hurlburt Field (which has its own nice collection).
>>
>> Les
>>
>> "ac249" > wrote in message
>> . uk...
>>> I have more from the F18A outside and all those wonderful historic USN
>>> aircraft on the inside. I have never been to Pensacola before but can
>>> only
>>> say that for me, it is the best museum I have visited. I daresay many
>>> North
>>> American enthusiasts who cannot get to Europe would feel equally excited
>>> by
>>> the Shuttleworth Trust at Old Warden, the IWM at Duxford, the RAF Museums
>>> at
>>> Hendon and Cosford and many more over on this side of the pond, but for
>>> me
>>> it was a pilgrimage to see so many aeroplanes that I have been seeing on
>>> film and in pictures over 50 odd years but have never actually walked up
>>> to
>>> and touched. The very fact that you could touch and walk up to the
>>> aeroplanes and look in cockpits that are reachable from the ground. In
>>> addition it was so well set out. I would urge anybody who can get there
>>> to
>>> go. It's a fair drive, 450 miles or so, from Orlando for those Europeans
>>> holidaying there, but I went to the USAF Armament museum at Hurlbert as
>>> well
>>> which has many aircraft outside as well as T33, P47 and F105 inside
>>> along
>>> with all the weapons on show. They were free also. See the MOAB at the
>>> doors
>>> to the museum attached. At last I could walk around a B47. I might add
>>> that
>>> I really enjoyed my 5 days in Pensacola Beach as well. Let's face it, two
>>> mornings spent wandering around the museum plus dropping in for lunch at
>>> it's excellent Cubi Point Bar (holding all the memorabilia of navy and
>>> marine WESTPAC cruises from the original Cubi Point), with my long
>>> suffering
>>> wife - who enjoyed some nice quiet mornings on a, nearly deserted,
>>> beautiful
>>> beach outside the hotel. If you do go, can I recommend the Holiday Inn
>>> Express on Pensacola Beach. Great place and great staff. Not what you
>>> imagine from most Holiday Inn Express hotels. We intend going back as
>>> soon
>>> as we can afford it, which may be a while with the currency situation at
>>> present.
>>>
>>> "Lee" > wrote in message
>>> 6.99...
>>>> "ac249" > rudely blurted out
>>>> . uk:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> begin 666
>>>>> 200809_NAM_Pensacola_F14D_161159_last_combat_sorti e_ac_14.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Attachment decoded:
>>>>> 200809_NAM_Pensacola_F14D_161159_last_combat_sorti e_ac_14.jpg `
>>>>> end
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for posting. A great walk-around.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *********************
>>>> Here's *my* funny sig from an ABPA thread on 08/16/08:
>>>> Alan Erskine > says... "I've got an IQ of 151"
>>>> "I'm in the 99th percentile for my age group - that's the top 1
>>>> percent"
>>>> (nice math there, Einstein!) "I doubt very strongly that you know
>>>> anyone in my range of IQ" (Neither do you, Einstein)
>>>> Lee > discussing newsserver retention:
>>>> "...I can go back about 6 months to locate files..."
>>>> Alan Erskine > interrupts with:
>>>> "Why should we wait for six months to download an image
>>>> that was posted yesterday?"
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

[ac249]

We live and learn Tom. I'll make a point of it an I must confess I did think
about dropping a line to anybody before I came over. I have collected a few
of your shots of the Blues before. I'll keep it in mind and thank you very
much. Take care Mike
"Pensacola Beachcomber" > wrote in
message ...
> Mike,
> You don't have to sit in the bleachers. You can stand with me, to the
> west of the bleachers, along with all of the other guys with long lenses.
> There is an area to the east of the roped off area where photographers can
> stand outside the safety zone. That was created when I complained that
> the new bleachers took away the area along the taxiway where serious
> photographers liked to stand. The area to the east is good except for a
> few times when a safety monitor might not kneel and get down when the
> sneak pass comes along.
> We hope to see you here. If you do return be sure and get in touch with
> us via e-mail first. We know where some really good restaurants are
> located and they are not the most expensive in town.
> You mention the busy traffic. I don't even go past the turnoff to
> Pensacola Beach on Highway 98. It's too much like driving in a city. We
> stay to the west of Pensacola except for our forays across the bay to
> visit Santa Rosa Island.
> Sounds like you are in a real historical patch. Our little village by the
> sea was under British rule from 1763 to 1781. That's why we fly the Union
> Jack as one of our five flags.
> At the Headquarters on the Naval Air Station is a stone monument in honor
> of the 4,000 plus British and Canadian pilots trained here in World War
> II.
> Regards, Tom in Pensacola
>
> ac249 wrote:
>> Hi Les,
>> Thanks for the correction I got the feeling that Eglin and Hurlbert were
>> all one absolutely massive military area. I know better now. I stopped at
>> the main gate at Hurlbert to ask the way and wanted to photograph their
>> spec ops aircraft just inside the gate but, like a fool, it was early
>> morning and they were very busy so I just turned away as I didn't want to
>> hassle them. I should have stopped on the way back into Pensacola but was
>> too knackered after wandering about for a 2 or 3 hours in the sun at
>> Eglin photographing all the exhibits. You're a lucky man living around
>> there. Then again, I can jump in the motor and be in Hendon, Duxford or
>> Old Warden within an hour so I shouldn't moan at all.
>> I'll be back within a couple of years and this time I'll come back before
>> the Blues finish their Weekly practice sessions. I am so P'd off that I
>> missed being able to sit in the bleachers and watch them.
>> Cheers
>> Mike
>>
>> "Les Matheson" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> As a local resident, I thank you for the glowing review of our area.
>>> The Chamber of
>>> Commerce thanks you , too.
>>>
>>> One correction, however, The Air Force Armament Museum is outside the
>>> main gate of
>>> Eglin AFB, not Hurlburt Field (which has its own nice collection).
>>>
>>> Les
>>>
>>> "ac249" > wrote in message
>>> . uk...
>>>> I have more from the F18A outside and all those wonderful historic USN
>>>> aircraft on the inside. I have never been to Pensacola before but can
>>>> only
>>>> say that for me, it is the best museum I have visited. I daresay many
>>>> North
>>>> American enthusiasts who cannot get to Europe would feel equally
>>>> excited by
>>>> the Shuttleworth Trust at Old Warden, the IWM at Duxford, the RAF
>>>> Museums at
>>>> Hendon and Cosford and many more over on this side of the pond, but for
>>>> me
>>>> it was a pilgrimage to see so many aeroplanes that I have been seeing
>>>> on
>>>> film and in pictures over 50 odd years but have never actually walked
>>>> up to
>>>> and touched. The very fact that you could touch and walk up to the
>>>> aeroplanes and look in cockpits that are reachable from the ground. In
>>>> addition it was so well set out. I would urge anybody who can get there
>>>> to
>>>> go. It's a fair drive, 450 miles or so, from Orlando for those
>>>> Europeans
>>>> holidaying there, but I went to the USAF Armament museum at Hurlbert as
>>>> well
>>>> which has many aircraft outside as well as T33, P47 and F105 inside
>>>> along
>>>> with all the weapons on show. They were free also. See the MOAB at the
>>>> doors
>>>> to the museum attached. At last I could walk around a B47. I might add
>>>> that
>>>> I really enjoyed my 5 days in Pensacola Beach as well. Let's face it,
>>>> two
>>>> mornings spent wandering around the museum plus dropping in for lunch
>>>> at
>>>> it's excellent Cubi Point Bar (holding all the memorabilia of navy and
>>>> marine WESTPAC cruises from the original Cubi Point), with my long
>>>> suffering
>>>> wife - who enjoyed some nice quiet mornings on a, nearly deserted,
>>>> beautiful
>>>> beach outside the hotel. If you do go, can I recommend the Holiday Inn
>>>> Express on Pensacola Beach. Great place and great staff. Not what you
>>>> imagine from most Holiday Inn Express hotels. We intend going back as
>>>> soon
>>>> as we can afford it, which may be a while with the currency situation
>>>> at
>>>> present.
>>>>
>>>> "Lee" > wrote in message
>>>> 6.99...
>>>>> "ac249" > rudely blurted out
>>>>> . uk:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> begin 666
>>>>>> 200809_NAM_Pensacola_F14D_161159_last_combat_sorti e_ac_14.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Attachment decoded:
>>>>>> 200809_NAM_Pensacola_F14D_161159_last_combat_sorti e_ac_14.jpg `
>>>>>> end
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for posting. A great walk-around.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *********************
>>>>> Here's *my* funny sig from an ABPA thread on 08/16/08:
>>>>> Alan Erskine > says... "I've got an IQ of
>>>>> 151"
>>>>> "I'm in the 99th percentile for my age group - that's the top 1
>>>>> percent"
>>>>> (nice math there, Einstein!) "I doubt very strongly that you know
>>>>> anyone in my range of IQ" (Neither do you, Einstein)
>>>>> Lee > discussing newsserver retention:
>>>>> "...I can go back about 6 months to locate files..."
>>>>> Alan Erskine > interrupts with:
>>>>> "Why should we wait for six months to download an image
>>>>> that was posted yesterday?"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

[Stealth Pilot[_2_]]

On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 12:22:03 -0000, "ac249"
> wrote:

>I have more from the F18A outside and all those wonderful historic USN
>aircraft on the inside. I have never been to Pensacola before but can only
>say that for me, it is the best museum I have visited. I daresay many North
>American enthusiasts who cannot get to Europe would feel equally excited by
>the Shuttleworth Trust at Old Warden, the IWM at Duxford, the RAF Museums at
>Hendon and Cosford and many more over on this side of the pond, but for me
>it was a pilgrimage to see so many aeroplanes that I have been seeing on
>film and in pictures over 50 odd years but have never actually walked up to
>and touched. The very fact that you could touch and walk up to the
>aeroplanes and look in cockpits that are reachable from the ground. In
>addition it was so well set out. I would urge anybody who can get there to
>go. It's a fair drive, 450 miles or so, from Orlando for those Europeans
>holidaying there, but I went to the USAF Armament museum at Hurlbert as well
>which has many aircraft outside as well as T33, P47 and F105 inside along
>with all the weapons on show. They were free also. See the MOAB at the doors
>to the museum attached. At last I could walk around a B47. I might add that
>I really enjoyed my 5 days in Pensacola Beach as well. Let's face it, two
>mornings spent wandering around the museum plus dropping in for lunch at
>it's excellent Cubi Point Bar (holding all the memorabilia of navy and
>marine WESTPAC cruises from the original Cubi Point), with my long suffering
>wife - who enjoyed some nice quiet mornings on a, nearly deserted, beautiful
>beach outside the hotel. If you do go, can I recommend the Holiday Inn
>Express on Pensacola Beach. Great place and great staff. Not what you
>imagine from most Holiday Inn Express hotels. We intend going back as soon
>as we can afford it, which may be a while with the currency situation at
>present.
>

these walk around museums seem to be something the yanks do.
maybe because there is so much aviation it doesnt seem special.
in other countries where the examples are rarer you seem to find them
roped off and cossetted and as a result the aircraft become
abstractions that you cant really get a feel for.

if you ever get to Salt Lake City hunt out the Hill Airforce Museum
which sits in a corner of an active airforce base.
there you will find walk around examples of really interesting almost
current aircraft.

In australia the war museum in canberra is worth a mention for the
examples of captured german WW2 aircraft. these are in unrestored
original condition. they are much harder to photograph because they
are in darkened UV absent environments to better preserve the original
paint. it is an eye opener how crude some of the aircraft actually
are.

Stealth Pilot