Homemade plane crash

[Big John]

Houston Chronicle, 7 Oct 2003

TWO DIE IN PLANE CRASH

An investigator examines the crash (in photo) site of a small homemade
plane Monday in an East Texas field near Van. Pilot and owner, Ernest
Robert Woodward, Jr and Passenger Markeetta Woodward, both of
Georgetown, were killed in the crash. The aircraft had taken off from
Gilmer en route to Georgetown officials said.

end

No A/C type, Wx, etc. given. Unable to determine type from photo.

Condolances to the family.

Big John

[Kyle Boatright]

"Big John" > wrote in message
...
> Houston Chronicle, 7 Oct 2003
>
> TWO DIE IN PLANE CRASH
>
> An investigator examines the crash (in photo) site of a small homemade
> plane Monday in an East Texas field near Van. Pilot and owner, Ernest
> Robert Woodward, Jr and Passenger Markeetta Woodward, both of
> Georgetown, were killed in the crash. The aircraft had taken off from
> Gilmer en route to Georgetown officials said.
>
> end
>
> No A/C type, Wx, etc. given. Unable to determine type from photo.
>
> Condolances to the family.
>
> Big John
>

It was an RV-8. Potentially weather related according to the preliminary
report on the FAA site.

[Rad]

8 or 4? There's a -4 registered to that gent (N99VH)


"Kyle Boatright" > wrote in message
t...
>
> "Big John" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Houston Chronicle, 7 Oct 2003
> >
> > TWO DIE IN PLANE CRASH
> >
> > An investigator examines the crash (in photo) site of a small homemade
> > plane Monday in an East Texas field near Van. Pilot and owner, Ernest
> > Robert Woodward, Jr and Passenger Markeetta Woodward, both of
> > Georgetown, were killed in the crash. The aircraft had taken off from
> > Gilmer en route to Georgetown officials said.
> >
> > end
> >
> > No A/C type, Wx, etc. given. Unable to determine type from photo.
> >
> > Condolances to the family.
> >
> > Big John
> >
>
> It was an RV-8. Potentially weather related according to the preliminary
> report on the FAA site.
>
>
>

[Dave Hyde]

Rad wrote:

> 8 or 4? There's a -4 registered to that gent (N99VH)

-8 (N27JW) according to the FAA.

http://www2.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_1007_N.txt

Dave ' ' Hyde

[Gig Giacona]

"Dave Hyde" > wrote in message
...
> Rad wrote:
>
> > 8 or 4? There's a -4 registered to that gent (N99VH)
>
> -8 (N27JW) according to the FAA.
>
> http://www2.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_1007_N.txt
>
[From above listed report]
THE ACFT WAS DESTROYED AND
THE TWO SOB'S SUFFERED FATAL INJURIES. TYLER, TX
[End Quote]

They really ought to reconsider use of that particular acronym.

[Big John]

Gig

POB (Persons on board) is sometimes used instead of SOB.

SOB has been used for as long as I can remember (at least in the
Military).

The abbreviation was used to expedite the passing of info for crash
crew purposes.

Without the acronym you would have to say "Two pilots, 3 stews, 25
men, 20 women and 4 children" all with hands full while working the
emergency.

The total "SOB" lets the crash crew know when they have recovered all
the people/bodies from a crash and not continue to put crash crew at
risk if all are recovered.

The 'souls on board' does not bother me as I go to Church with the
wife and am comfortable with the use of the word "souls".

Big John


On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:31:10 -0500, "Gig Giacona"
> wrote:

>
>"Dave Hyde" > wrote in message
...
>> Rad wrote:
>>
>> > 8 or 4? There's a -4 registered to that gent (N99VH)
>>
>> -8 (N27JW) according to the FAA.
>>
>> http://www2.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_1007_N.txt
>>
>[From above listed report]
>THE ACFT WAS DESTROYED AND
> THE TWO SOB'S SUFFERED FATAL INJURIES. TYLER, TX
>[End Quote]
>
>They really ought to reconsider use of that particular acronym.
>

[Gig Giacona]

I know exactly what it means. I would say the same thing though if there
were a legit FAA/Military term of say, "Formerly Useful Christian Kickers"
and they used the acronym.



"Big John" > wrote in message
...
> Gig
>
> POB (Persons on board) is sometimes used instead of SOB.
>
> SOB has been used for as long as I can remember (at least in the
> Military).
>
> The abbreviation was used to expedite the passing of info for crash
> crew purposes.
>
> Without the acronym you would have to say "Two pilots, 3 stews, 25
> men, 20 women and 4 children" all with hands full while working the
> emergency.
>
> The total "SOB" lets the crash crew know when they have recovered all
> the people/bodies from a crash and not continue to put crash crew at
> risk if all are recovered.
>
> The 'souls on board' does not bother me as I go to Church with the
> wife and am comfortable with the use of the word "souls".
>
> Big John
>
>
> On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:31:10 -0500, "Gig Giacona"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Dave Hyde" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Rad wrote:
> >>
> >> > 8 or 4? There's a -4 registered to that gent (N99VH)
> >>
> >> -8 (N27JW) according to the FAA.
> >>
> >> http://www2.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_1007_N.txt
> >>
> >[From above listed report]
> >THE ACFT WAS DESTROYED AND
> > THE TWO SOB'S SUFFERED FATAL INJURIES. TYLER, TX
> >[End Quote]
> >
> >They really ought to reconsider use of that particular acronym.
> >
>

[Gig Giacona]

Also John,

You do realize my problem with the acronym has nothing to do with the use of
the term Soul.

As a mater of fact the term Souls on Board is there to differentiate between
bodies that were alive at the time the flight started and any that weren't.

Again I have no problem with the term, just the acronym.



"Big John" > wrote in message
...
> Gig
>
> POB (Persons on board) is sometimes used instead of SOB.
>
> SOB has been used for as long as I can remember (at least in the
> Military).
>
> The abbreviation was used to expedite the passing of info for crash
> crew purposes.
>
> Without the acronym you would have to say "Two pilots, 3 stews, 25
> men, 20 women and 4 children" all with hands full while working the
> emergency.
>
> The total "SOB" lets the crash crew know when they have recovered all
> the people/bodies from a crash and not continue to put crash crew at
> risk if all are recovered.
>
> The 'souls on board' does not bother me as I go to Church with the
> wife and am comfortable with the use of the word "souls".
>
> Big John
>
>
> On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:31:10 -0500, "Gig Giacona"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Dave Hyde" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Rad wrote:
> >>
> >> > 8 or 4? There's a -4 registered to that gent (N99VH)
> >>
> >> -8 (N27JW) according to the FAA.
> >>
> >> http://www2.faa.gov/avr/aai/M_1007_N.txt
> >>
> >[From above listed report]
> >THE ACFT WAS DESTROYED AND
> > THE TWO SOB'S SUFFERED FATAL INJURIES. TYLER, TX
> >[End Quote]
> >
> >They really ought to reconsider use of that particular acronym.
> >
>

[Paul]

"> As a mater of fact the term Souls on Board is there to differentiate
between
> bodies that were alive at the time the flight started and any that
weren't.
>
> Again I have no problem with the term, just the acronym.

>
I must be dense All this time I thought the objection to S.O.B. was because
it also stood for
sons of bitches.

[Roger Halstead]

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:31:24 -0700, "Paul" > wrote:

>
>"> As a mater of fact the term Souls on Board is there to differentiate
>between
>> bodies that were alive at the time the flight started and any that
>weren't.
>>
>> Again I have no problem with the term, just the acronym.
>
>>
>I must be dense All this time I thought the objection to S.O.B. was because
>it also stood for
>sons of bitches.
>
It doesn't?
And here when you think of an accident and those poor "Souls On
Board". I've been doing it wrong all these years.

Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
www.rogerhalstead.com
N833R World's oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2)