XC-Soar and HP310 / HP314 (Euro)

[Jim White[_3_]]

Hi Folks

I have XC-Soar running on my new HP314 and it is good. I have increased
the font size on the info boxes to 60pt and they are very readable. Screen
is bright and easy to see in all conditions except when the unit is aligned
so that the sun reflects directly off it into your eyes. In fact I think it
has an amazing tolerance to viewing angles and ambient light.

I have got the UK maps on with UK airspace and turnpoints and although I
haven't flown with it yet, using it in the car with built in GPS is very
promising.

Have purchased a li-ion booster battery and will let you know how that
goes. Problem now is the serial / bluetooth.

I have bought an Aircable Mini Bluetooth plug which is a doddle to set up
to work with my Garmin / LX and will happily send NMEA sentences to my
laptop bluetooth. But how to set up the 314 to connect and receive these
into XC-Soar?? I haven't been able to get it going yet.

If anyone knows the answer please help.

Jim

[[email protected]]

On Jan 20, 5:15*pm, Jim White > wrote:
> Hi Folks
>
> I have XC-Soar running on my new HP314 and it is good. I have increased
> the font size on the info boxes to 60pt and they are very readable. Screen
> is bright and easy to see in all conditions except when the unit is aligned
> so that the sun reflects directly off it into your eyes. In fact I think it
> has an amazing tolerance to viewing angles and ambient light.
>
> I have got the UK maps on with UK airspace and turnpoints and although I
> haven't flown with it yet, using it in the car with built in GPS is very
> promising.
>
> Have purchased a li-ion booster battery and will let you know how that
> goes. Problem now is the serial / bluetooth.
>
> I have bought an Aircable Mini Bluetooth plug which is a doddle to set up
> to work with my Garmin / LX and will happily send NMEA sentences to my
> laptop bluetooth. But how to set up the 314 to connect and receive these
> into XC-Soar?? I haven't been able to get it going yet.
>
> If anyone knows the answer please help.
>
> Jim

Hi Jim
I am using a KT6B Bluetooth adaptor on my 302 and setting for the 314
is Com6 4800bd. it works quite well as it is specially adapted for
gliding. it is also powered by the 302. I am flying with the 314 at
present and find the same that direct sunlight washes out the screen
but in the (shade) it is superior to the other Ipaqs.
Bruno

[PCool]

Have you noticed any problems with the snail trail on the 31x ipaq?
Sort of green rays spreading around, while flying and even while driving or
replaying a flight log.
Which XSoar version are you using right now?

I'm working on making the side scroll wheel working for zoom in the main map
window but can't get to fix the snail trail so far.
paolo


> ha scritto nel messaggio
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On Jan 20, 5:15 pm, Jim White > wrote:
> Hi Folks
>
> I have XC-Soar running on my new HP314 and it is good. I have increased
> the font size on the info boxes to 60pt and they are very readable. Screen
> is bright and easy to see in all conditions except when the unit is
> aligned
> so that the sun reflects directly off it into your eyes. In fact I think
> it
> has an amazing tolerance to viewing angles and ambient light.
>
> I have got the UK maps on with UK airspace and turnpoints and although I
> haven't flown with it yet, using it in the car with built in GPS is very
> promising.
>
> Have purchased a li-ion booster battery and will let you know how that
> goes. Problem now is the serial / bluetooth.
>
> I have bought an Aircable Mini Bluetooth plug which is a doddle to set up
> to work with my Garmin / LX and will happily send NMEA sentences to my
> laptop bluetooth. But how to set up the 314 to connect and receive these
> into XC-Soar?? I haven't been able to get it going yet.
>
> If anyone knows the answer please help.
>
> Jim

Hi Jim
I am using a KT6B Bluetooth adaptor on my 302 and setting for the 314
is Com6 4800bd. it works quite well as it is specially adapted for
gliding. it is also powered by the 302. I am flying with the 314 at
present and find the same that direct sunlight washes out the screen
but in the (shade) it is superior to the other Ipaqs.
Bruno

[Jim White[_3_]]

At 22:28 20 January 2009, PCool wrote:
>Have you noticed any problems with the snail trail on the 31x ipaq?
>Sort of green rays spreading around, while flying and even while driving
>or
>replaying a flight log.
>Which XSoar version are you using right now?
>
>I'm working on making the side scroll wheel working for zoom in the
main
>map
>window but can't get to fix the snail trail so far.
>paolo
>
>
Yes, the snail does fan out as you say. Version 5.1.9 gccB6. Scroll wheel
zoom would be good. I also notice that the snail turns on even when set
off in the config. It can however be turned off using the display menu.

I will try com6 and see what I get. I did ask HP which ports were used on
web chat but they said 'sorry, 3rd party sw not supported, foad!" No
wonder they cannot compete in this market!

Jim

[Jim White[_3_]]

At 10:45 21 January 2009, Jim White wrote:
>
>I will try com6 and see what I get.

Hoorah! Com6 is the baby. All working tickety boo with my laptop sending
nmea sentences through the aircable serial plug to the hp314.

When I have everything going nicely I'll write a 'how I dun it' and
publish through this forum.

Jim

ps: I think HP may have already 'discontinued' the product. Maybe PR
should snap up the last 1000 units?

[[email protected]]

On Jan 20, 10:28*pm, "PCool" > wrote:
> Have you noticed any problems with the snail trail on the 31x ipaq?
> Sort of green rays spreading around, while flying and even while driving or
> replaying a flight log.
> Which XSoar version are you using right now?
>
> I'm working on making the side scroll wheel working for zoom in the main map
> window but can't get to fix the snail trail so far.
> paolo
>
Hi Paolo

I only tried the PNA version of xcsoar and also noticed the problem
with the trail however i did not continue using it as I have a Beta
version of SeeYou on trial.

Bruno

[Jim White[_3_]]

At 16:30 21 January 2009, Jim White wrote:
>At 10:45 21 January 2009, Jim White wrote:
>>
Thanks to Paul Remde and friends I have got the charging working. I have a
3400mah Li-ion booster battery pack and have rigged up a cable with two
resistor bridges to supply +3v to the data pins on the mini usb. HP314 now
charges properly from the pack and I should get about 7 hrs out of it.

Bluetooth works great on com 6 with feed from my LX through an Airplug
Mini BT adaptor at 4800 baud.

Now....does anyone know how to write script for Windows CE that can be
started at boot to set the power and backlight settings to always on, turn
the bluetooth on, and launch XCS? That would save some fiddling and reduce
errors.

Some of this may be possible in the registry and ini files??

Tx

Jim

[Richard[_9_]]

On Jan 29, 4:45*am, Jim White > wrote:
> At 16:30 21 January 2009, Jim White wrote:>At 10:45 21 January 2009, Jim White wrote:
>
> Thanks to Paul Remde and friends I have got the charging working. I have a
> 3400mah Li-ion booster battery pack and have rigged up a cable with two
> resistor bridges to supply +3v to the data pins on the mini usb. HP314 now
> charges properly from the pack and I should get about 7 hrs out of it.
>
> Bluetooth works great on com 6 with feed from my LX through an Airplug
> Mini BT adaptor at 4800 baud.
>
> Now....does anyone know how to write script for Windows CE that can be
> started at boot to set the power and backlight settings to always on, turn
> the bluetooth on, and launch XCS? That would save some fiddling and reduce
> errors.
>
> Some of this may be possible in the registry and ini files??
>
> Tx
>
> Jim

Jim,

The backlight and the battery scheme can be set in the CE 5.0 control
panel.

Start-Settings-Control-Panel-display-backlight uncheck all

Start-Settings-Control-Panel-Power- set both schemes to all never

These settings will be save in the registry automatially.

Just a note Craggy Aero has had the 310/314 power cable available for
the Ipaq 310/314 for about 2 months.

http://www.craggyaero.com/pdam.htm

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[Jim White[_3_]]

At 16:13 29 January 2009, Richard wrote:
>
>The backlight and the battery scheme can be set in the CE 5.0 control
>panel.
>
>Start-Settings-Control-Panel-display-backlight uncheck all
>
> Start-Settings-Control-Panel-Power- set both schemes to all never
>
>These settings will be save in the registry automatially.
>
>Just a note Craggy Aero has had the 310/314 power cable available for
>the Ipaq 310/314 for about 2 months.
>
>http://www.craggyaero.com/pdam.htm
>
>Richard
>www.craggyaero.com
>
>
Thanks Richard but all these settings are lost on reset. Do you know how
to make them stick? So far I reckon simplest is a script.

Jim

[Richard[_9_]]

On Jan 29, 9:45*am, Jim White > wrote:
> At 16:13 29 January 2009, Richard wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >The backlight and the battery scheme can be set in the CE 5.0 control
> >panel.
>
> >Start-Settings-Control-Panel-display-backlight * uncheck all
>
> > Start-Settings-Control-Panel-Power- *set both schemes to all never
>
> >These settings will be save in the registry automatially.
>
> >Just a note Craggy Aero has had the 310/314 *power cable available for
> >the Ipaq 310/314 for about 2 months.
>
> >http://www.craggyaero.com/pdam.htm
>
> >Richard
> >www.craggyaero.com
>
> Thanks Richard but all these settings are lost on reset. Do you know how
> to make them stick? So far I reckon simplest is a script.
>
> Jim- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

JIm,

My settings are not lost when I do a soft reset with the pen. I am
running SeeYou Mobile from the SD Card. Maybe something in their
setup from the card saves the settings.


Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[brianDG303[_2_]]

On Jan 29, 10:22*am, Richard > wrote:
> On Jan 29, 9:45*am, Jim White > wrote:
>
>
>
> > At 16:13 29 January 2009, Richard wrote:
>
> > >The backlight and the battery scheme can be set in the CE 5.0 control
> > >panel.
>
> > >Start-Settings-Control-Panel-display-backlight * uncheck all
>
> > > Start-Settings-Control-Panel-Power- *set both schemes to all never
>
> > >These settings will be save in the registry automatially.
>
> > >Just a note Craggy Aero has had the 310/314 *power cable available for
> > >the Ipaq 310/314 for about 2 months.
>
> > >http://www.craggyaero.com/pdam.htm
>
> > >Richard
> > >www.craggyaero.com
>
> > Thanks Richard but all these settings are lost on reset. Do you know how
> > to make them stick? So far I reckon simplest is a script.
>
> > Jim- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> JIm,
>
> My settings are not lost when I do a soft reset with the pen. *I am
> running SeeYou Mobile from the SD Card. *Maybe something in their
> setup from the card saves the settings.
>
> Richardwww.craggyaero.com

I agree with Richard about not losing settings when booted from a
card. Solid as a rock. Also I really like the airspace files from
JustSoar loaded in, works very well.

[Richard[_9_]]

On Jan 29, 12:18*pm, brianDG303 > wrote:
> On Jan 29, 10:22*am, Richard > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 29, 9:45*am, Jim White > wrote:
>
> > > At 16:13 29 January 2009, Richard wrote:
>
> > > >The backlight and the battery scheme can be set in the CE 5.0 control
> > > >panel.
>
> > > >Start-Settings-Control-Panel-display-backlight * uncheck all
>
> > > > Start-Settings-Control-Panel-Power- *set both schemes to all never
>
> > > >These settings will be save in the registry automatially.
>
> > > >Just a note Craggy Aero has had the 310/314 *power cable available for
> > > >the Ipaq 310/314 for about 2 months.
>
> > > >http://www.craggyaero.com/pdam.htm
>
> > > >Richard
> > > >www.craggyaero.com
>
> > > Thanks Richard but all these settings are lost on reset. Do you know how
> > > to make them stick? So far I reckon simplest is a script.
>
> > > Jim- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > JIm,
>
> > My settings are not lost when I do a soft reset with the pen. *I am
> > running SeeYou Mobile from the SD Card. *Maybe something in their
> > setup from the card saves the settings.
>
> > Richardwww.craggyaero.com
>
> I agree with Richard about not losing settings when booted from a
> card. Solid as a rock. Also I really like the airspace files from
> JustSoar loaded in, works very well.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Brian,

What is your opinion on the visibiltiy of the 310 with direct
sunlight from the rear.

Craggy Aero does have a C310 power cable that charges the Ipaq 310
from the CAI 302 or PWR-5b. Tested on both.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[brianDG303[_2_]]

On Jan 30, 6:56*am, Richard > wrote:
> On Jan 29, 12:18*pm, brianDG303 > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 29, 10:22*am, Richard > wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 29, 9:45*am, Jim White > wrote:
>
> > > > At 16:13 29 January 2009, Richard wrote:
>
> > > > >The backlight and the battery scheme can be set in the CE 5.0 control
> > > > >panel.
>
> > > > >Start-Settings-Control-Panel-display-backlight * uncheck all
>
> > > > > Start-Settings-Control-Panel-Power- *set both schemes to all never
>
> > > > >These settings will be save in the registry automatially.
>
> > > > >Just a note Craggy Aero has had the 310/314 *power cable available for
> > > > >the Ipaq 310/314 for about 2 months.
>
> > > > >http://www.craggyaero.com/pdam.htm
>
> > > > >Richard
> > > > >www.craggyaero.com
>
> > > > Thanks Richard but all these settings are lost on reset. Do you know how
> > > > to make them stick? So far I reckon simplest is a script.
>
> > > > Jim- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > JIm,
>
> > > My settings are not lost when I do a soft reset with the pen. *I am
> > > running SeeYou Mobile from the SD Card. *Maybe something in their
> > > setup from the card saves the settings.
>
> > > Richardwww.craggyaero.com
>
> > I agree with Richard about not losing settings when booted from a
> > card. Solid as a rock. Also I really like the airspace files from
> > JustSoar loaded in, works very well.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Brian,
>
> What is your opinion on the *visibiltiy of the 310 with direct
> sunlight from the rear.
>
> Craggy Aero does have a C310 power cable that charges the Ipaq 310
> from the CAI 302 or PWR-5b. *Tested on both.
>
> Richardwww.craggyaero.com

Richard, I really like the unit, but -
I am comparing it to the IPAQ 3970, not the Cnav or the ultimate
I prefer no terrain (white screen) as opposed to moving map
the sunlight glare angle I think you are talking about is hard to get
the way I have mine mounted. At worst the sun comes in at about 30
degrees above vertical which puts the glare angle in my lap.

and, as I suspect you fly with an ultimate but own a HP310, try this-
I fly with Terrain OFF but then run in SIM mode with Terrain ON while
on commercial airline trips or other down time. Great way to study
your past flights, and with the screen resolution of the HP it's like
watching a movie.

I like the way you are supporting the HP310. I'll contact you soon
about getting a cable.