XC-Soar

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Does anybody know how to load the maps with .xcm extension?
My map display page layout is completly different from that described
in the 5.1.2 manual and only allows selection of topology and terrain
files, it will not allow selection of .xcm.

there must be a way of doing it, but I'm blowed if I can find it.

As a newbie I must say the Designers and Implementers have gone to a
great deal of trouble to make it complicated! We need a plain brand
stripped version for those who want to fly and not spend all time
poking buttons etc.
Mike

[noel.wade]

On Jan 25, 4:25*am, wrote:
> Does anybody know how to load the maps with .xcm extension?
> My map display page layout is completly different from that described
> in the 5.1.2 manual and only allows selection of topology and terrain
> files, it will not allow selection of .xcm.
>
> there must be a way of doing it, but I'm blowed if I can find it.
>
> As a newbie I must say the Designers and Implementers have gone to a
> great deal of trouble to make it complicated! We need a plain brand
> stripped version for those who want to fly and not spend all time
> poking buttons etc.
> Mike

Mike -

Much of the complication is due to the fact that XCSoar is programmed
to run on a bunch of different devices with different types of
interfaces (keyboards, scroll-wheels, touch-screens, etc). It is also
the nature of "Open Source" projects to be as flexible as possible -
which, yes, means that there are sometimes too many configuration
screens and such.

Here's how to get an XCM map to work:

1) Download the latest version of XCSoar for your system (5.1.2 is
pretty out-of-date at this point)

2) Make/download your XCM map. Put it into the "My Documents/
XCSoarData" folder on your PDA.

3) Start XCSoar in "Sim" mode on your PDA.

4) Bring up the menu (double-tap on most touchscreens), choose
"Config", choose "Config" again, then "Setup System"

5) Under "Map File", pick the XCM file you put onto the PDA in step
2.

The setting should "stick" for both SIM mode and FLY mode.

Enjoy!

--Noel

[[email protected]]

On Jan 26, 10:02*am, "noel.wade" > wrote:
> On Jan 25, 4:25*am, wrote:
>
> > Does anybody know how to load the maps with .xcm extension?
> > My map display page layout is completly different from that described
> > in the 5.1.2 manual and only allows selection of topology and terrain
> > files, it will not allow selection of .xcm.
>
> > there must be a way of doing it, but I'm blowed if I can find it.
>
> > As a newbie I must say the Designers and Implementers have gone to a
> > great deal of trouble to make it complicated! We need a plain brand
> > stripped version for those who want to fly and not spend all time
> > poking buttons etc.
> > Mike
>
> Mike -
>
> Much of the complication is due to the fact that XCSoar is programmed
> to run on a bunch of different devices with different types of
> interfaces (keyboards, scroll-wheels, touch-screens, etc). *It is also
> the nature of "Open Source" projects to be as flexible as possible -
> which, yes, means that there are sometimes too many configuration
> screens and such.
>
> Here's how to get an XCM map to work:
>
> 1) Download the latest version of XCSoar for your system (5.1.2 is
> pretty out-of-date at this point)
>
> 2) Make/download your XCM map. *Put it into the "My Documents/
> XCSoarData" folder on your PDA.
>
> 3) Start XCSoar in "Sim" mode on your PDA.
>
> 4) Bring up the menu (double-tap on most touchscreens), choose
> "Config", choose "Config" again, then "Setup System"
>
> 5) Under "Map File", pick the XCM file you put onto the PDA in step
> 2.
>
> The setting should "stick" for both SIM mode and FLY mode.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> --Noel

Noel,
Thank you for your reply. I have the latest version, loaded it two
days ago.
In the latest version, on setup page2: Map Display there is no field
labelled Map File.

there are two fields labelled: Terrain display: and Topology display.
Neither of these fields "see" the .xcm file to select it. The .xcm
file is in the XC-Soar directory.
What page of Setup is the Map File field located, I have looked at all
of them and cannot find it.
Regards,
Mike

[David Salmon[_2_]]

Cannot understand what is happening. For many of the latest versions the
map file selection is the top item on Menu-Config-Config-Setup System-
page 1 Site. This shows selection boxes near the bottom for Terrain and
Topology files, but if an xcm file is used, these are left blank. Terrain
and Topology also appear on page 4 Terrain Display, so that you can turn
them On or Off..
You can at the bottom of the Config pages switch between Expert or Basic.
The latter cuts out many options.
However my manual which is for 5.12a shows the Configuration as above, so
it has not changed since then. Currently using 5.19 Beta6.
Dave


At 00:16 26 January 2009, wrote:
>On Jan 26, 10:02=A0am, "noel.wade" wrote:
>> On Jan 25, 4:25=A0am, wrote:
>>
>> > Does anybody know how to load the maps with .xcm extension?
>> > My map display page layout is completly different from that
described
>> > in the 5.1.2 manual and only allows selection of topology and
terrain
>> > files, it will not allow selection of .xcm.
>>
>> > there must be a way of doing it, but I'm blowed if I can find it.
>>
>> > As a newbie I must say the Designers and Implementers have gone to a
>> > great deal of trouble to make it complicated! We need a plain brand
>> > stripped version for those who want to fly and not spend all time
>> > poking buttons etc.
>> > Mike
>>
>> Mike -
>>
>> Much of the complication is due to the fact that XCSoar is programmed
>> to run on a bunch of different devices with different types of
>> interfaces (keyboards, scroll-wheels, touch-screens, etc). =A0It is
also
>> the nature of "Open Source" projects to be as flexible as possible -
>> which, yes, means that there are sometimes too many configuration
>> screens and such.
>>
>> Here's how to get an XCM map to work:
>>
>> 1) Download the latest version of XCSoar for your system (5.1.2 is
>> pretty out-of-date at this point)
>>
>> 2) Make/download your XCM map. =A0Put it into the "My Documents/
>> XCSoarData" folder on your PDA.
>>
>> 3) Start XCSoar in "Sim" mode on your PDA.
>>
>> 4) Bring up the menu (double-tap on most touchscreens), choose
>> "Config", choose "Config" again, then "Setup System"
>>
>> 5) Under "Map File", pick the XCM file you put onto the PDA in step
>> 2.
>>
>> The setting should "stick" for both SIM mode and FLY mode.
>>
>> Enjoy!
>>
>> --Noel
>
>Noel,
>Thank you for your reply. I have the latest version, loaded it two
>days ago.
>In the latest version, on setup page2: Map Display there is no field
>labelled Map File.
>
>there are two fields labelled: Terrain display: and Topology display.
>Neither of these fields "see" the .xcm file to select it. The .xcm
>file is in the XC-Soar directory.
>What page of Setup is the Map File field located, I have looked at all
>of them and cannot find it.
>Regards,
>Mike
>

[Uncle Fuzzy]

On Jan 26, 12:45*am, David Salmon > wrote:
> Cannot understand what is happening. For many of the latest versions the
> map file selection is the top item on Menu-Config-Config-Setup System-
> page 1 Site. This shows selection boxes near the bottom for Terrain and
> Topology files, but if an xcm file is used, these are left blank. Terrain
> and Topology also appear on page 4 Terrain Display, so that you can turn
> them On or Off..
> You can at the bottom of the Config pages switch between Expert or Basic.
> The latter cuts out many options.
> However my manual which is for 5.12a shows the Configuration as above, so
> it has not changed since then. Currently using 5.19 Beta6.
> Dave
>
> At 00:16 26 January 2009, wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Jan 26, 10:02=A0am, "noel.wade" *wrote:
> >> On Jan 25, 4:25=A0am, wrote:
>
> >> > Does anybody know how to load the maps with .xcm extension?
> >> > My map display page layout is completly different from that
> described
> >> > in the 5.1.2 manual and only allows selection of topology and
> terrain
> >> > files, it will not allow selection of .xcm.
>
> >> > there must be a way of doing it, but I'm blowed if I can find it.
>
> >> > As a newbie I must say the Designers and Implementers have gone to a
> >> > great deal of trouble to make it complicated! We need a plain brand
> >> > stripped version for those who want to fly and not spend all time
> >> > poking buttons etc.
> >> > Mike
>
> >> Mike -
>
> >> Much of the complication is due to the fact that XCSoar is programmed
> >> to run on a bunch of different devices with different types of
> >> interfaces (keyboards, scroll-wheels, touch-screens, etc). =A0It is
> also
> >> the nature of "Open Source" projects to be as flexible as possible -
> >> which, yes, means that there are sometimes too many configuration
> >> screens and such.
>
> >> Here's how to get an XCM map to work:
>
> >> 1) Download the latest version of XCSoar for your system (5.1.2 is
> >> pretty out-of-date at this point)
>
> >> 2) Make/download your XCM map. =A0Put it into the "My Documents/
> >> XCSoarData" folder on your PDA.
>
> >> 3) Start XCSoar in "Sim" mode on your PDA.
>
> >> 4) Bring up the menu (double-tap on most touchscreens), choose
> >> "Config", choose "Config" again, then "Setup System"
>
> >> 5) Under "Map File", pick the XCM file you put onto the PDA in step
> >> 2.
>
> >> The setting should "stick" for both SIM mode and FLY mode.
>
> >> Enjoy!
>
> >> --Noel
>
> >Noel,
> >Thank you for your reply. I have the latest version, loaded it two
> >days ago.
> >In the latest version, on setup page2: Map Display there is no field
> >labelled Map File.
>
> >there are two fields labelled: *Terrain display: and Topology display.
> >Neither of these fields "see" the .xcm file to select it. The .xcm
> >file is in the XC-Soar directory.
> >What page of Setup is the Map File field located, I have looked at all
> >of them and cannot find it.
> >Regards,
> >Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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