Scat Cylinder Heads

[Maxwell[_2_]]

Does anyone have any experience with Scat cylinder heads on an aircraft.

They appear to have a larger cooling area, and are designed for cooling high
output VWs.

http://www.scatvw.com/CH_Home.htm

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On Jan 25, 6:58*pm, "Maxwell" <#$$9#@%%%.^^^> wrote:

> They appear to have a larger cooling area, and are designed for cooling high
> output VWs.
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Actually, they've got less. As in, a LOT LESS. Measure them. Then
measure a stock head. Surprise! :-)

-Bob

[cavelamb[_2_]]

wrote:
> On Jan 25, 6:58 pm, "Maxwell" <#$$9#@%%%.^^^> wrote:
>
>> They appear to have a larger cooling area, and are designed for cooling high
>> output VWs.
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>
> Actually, they've got less. As in, a LOT LESS. Measure them. Then
> measure a stock head. Surprise! :-)
>
> -Bob

I had a set on my 2180 at first, but they didn't cool all that well.
The right rear got very hot - enough to warp the cylinder.

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On Jan 25, 7:41*pm, " > wrote:
> On Jan 25, 6:58*pm, "Maxwell" <#$$9#@%%%.^^^> wrote:
>
> > They appear to have a larger cooling area, and are designed for cooling high
> > output VWs.
>
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>
> Actually, they've got less. *As in, a LOT LESS. *Measure them. *Then
> measure a stock head. *Surprise! :-)
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There's bags of information out there about these heads, from their
inception to their ultimate use on the drag strip. But when someone
who has failed to do any basic research on a topic then fails to
provide a valid email address, it forces others to take the time to
repeat what has already appeared. Personally, I've stopped trying to
help such people, having taken on a more than full-time load trying to
come up to date on my cancer situation. If they are too important --
or whatever -- to use a valid email address, I'm too important -- or
whatever -- to waste my time on them. And being a parrot IS a waste.

-R.S.Hoover

[Maxwell[_2_]]

> wrote in message
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On Jan 25, 7:41 pm, " > wrote:
> On Jan 25, 6:58 pm, "Maxwell" <#$$9#@%%%.^^^> wrote:
>
> > They appear to have a larger cooling area, and are designed for cooling
> > high
> > output VWs.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Actually, they've got less. As in, a LOT LESS. Measure them. Then
> measure a stock head. Surprise! :-)
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There's bags of information out there about these heads, from their
inception to their ultimate use on the drag strip. But when someone
who has failed to do any basic research on a topic then fails to
provide a valid email address, it forces others to take the time to
repeat what has already appeared. Personally, I've stopped trying to
help such people, having taken on a more than full-time load trying to
come up to date on my cancer situation. If they are too important --
or whatever -- to use a valid email address, I'm too important -- or
whatever -- to waste my time on them. And being a parrot IS a waste.

-R.S.Hoover

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First of all, if you want someone's email address, why don't you just ask
for it? Being an asshole is very counterproductive. Like many others, the
reason I don't "fly" a valid email address is spam, but I have never failed
to cheerfully give mine to anyone that asks.

As for the bag of information out there on Scat heads, I could give a ****
less. You have been clamering around for weeks now, whining about the woes
of making your own cylinder head, so I thought I would mention it. If you
don't like, I don't care why, I don't need a bedtime story.

As for help, I don't really need yours. Everything I have offered you was to
assist your efforts, including offers to send you free samples of
professional use materials, and help you locate low cost quailty metals. If
I wanted to make a cylinder head, I would do so, as I have been doing such
things professionally for many, many years.

I would also caution not only you, but anyone else interested in your
project. You make a LOT of statements and assumptions that are nothing short
of dead wrong, and demonstrate the severity of your inexperience with metal
casting. You and your followers will discover in the months and years ahead.
If someone is considering following the advice of you or your buddy Stealth,
I hope they have plenty of time and money to waste on the project, because
learning metal casting by trial and error is a very lenghty, costly and most
often fruitless endeavor.

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On Jan 27, 4:53*pm, "Maxwell" <#$$9#@%%%.^^^> wrote:

> I hope they have plenty of time and money to waste on the project, because
> learning metal casting by trial and error is a very lenghty, costly and most
> often fruitless endeavor.

???????? Who said anything about trial and eerror? Resources abound
for the budding amateur, and Veebuber is providing a service to this
group by exposing many to the FACT that this skill is within the grasp
of most aviation homebuilders.

>I would also caution not only you, but anyone else interested in your
project. You make a LOT of statements and assumptions that are nothing
short
of dead wrong<

If he is in error in some factual way please take the time to educate
us all.

Metal casting is like a LOT of things we do/learn. The basics are
simple and the learning of same swift.

Granted, to perfect ones skill in the art, casting or any other, could
well consume a lifetime.

We have no need of that level of mastery to safely make usable hobby
castings.

Being able to make simple castings could be a handy skill for some
homebuilt aircraft owners/builders as there are several out of
production kits that use aluminum castings that are no longer
available. BD-5 and Sadler Vampire being 2 I can think of quickly
that use castings in the landing gear.

Veeduber has given generously of his time trying to pass on to the VW
homebuilding clan the benefit of his years of accumulated wisdom.
(I've been around VW's long enough to know a master when I see one.
He is one.) So if your expertise lies in the field of casting maybe
you'd be willing to share? I know I have more to learn when it comes
to hot aluminum ....... and VW's.
=======================
Leon McAtee
(DEAD e-mail addy, but the resourceful can find the new one)

[stef]

On 28 Éáí, 03:35, " >
wrote:

> Veeduber has given generously of his time trying to pass on to the VW
> homebuilding clan the benefit of his years of accumulated wisdom.
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Succesfully too ! Check out these Swedish heads http://www.jpmotorsport.se/e/ms230.htm

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"stef" > wrote in message
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On 28 Éáí, 03:35, " >
wrote:

> Veeduber has given generously of his time trying to pass on to the VW
> homebuilding clan the benefit of his years of accumulated wisdom.
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Succesfully too ! Check out these Swedish heads
http://www.jpmotorsport.se/e/ms230.htm

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I have no idea how well these heads perform relative to horsepower or
cooling, but that's the way to make them. Cast the head with the combustion
chambers, ports and rocker pan, and machine cooling fins to any level of
detail desired.

[stef]

Maybe I ‘m in the wrong place, but we are all allowed to dream, aren’t
we ?
The recent head activity was so intense I decided I found the blog of
my life, a living proof of what good men can do together. Fat fin
heads – we could even start a blog dedicated to engine bay and cooling
system mods for our highway huggers …

Maybe I ’ll never fly in front of my vw ( Skylark) but I sure won’t
loose any sleep or any money over some golden market heads either.
That’s flying Bob Hoover airlines.

I can’t welcome you aboard Maxie, but don’t let that stop you !

Please allow me to introduce myself – another time – perhaps.

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"stef" > wrote in message
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Maybe I ‘m in the wrong place, but we are all allowed to dream, aren’t
we ?
The recent head activity was so intense I decided I found the blog of
my life, a living proof of what good men can do together. Fat fin
heads – we could even start a blog dedicated to engine bay and cooling
system mods for our highway huggers …

Maybe I ’ll never fly in front of my vw ( Skylark) but I sure won’t
loose any sleep or any money over some golden market heads either.
That’s flying Bob Hoover airlines.

I can’t welcome you aboard Maxie, but don’t let that stop you !

Please allow me to introduce myself – another time – perhaps.

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I don't follow you stef, did you think I was criticizing your link?

[Stealth Pilot[_2_]]

On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:53:06 -0600, "Maxwell" <#$$9#@%%%.^^^> wrote:


>If someone is considering following the advice of you or your buddy Stealth,
>I hope they have plenty of time and money to waste on the project, because
>learning metal casting by trial and error is a very lenghty, costly and most
>often fruitless endeavor.
>
strange attitude you have there.
most of my castings have actually been completely successful using the
techniques I describe.

ok contribute something.
how would you go about making an oil burner for the furnace?
here in perth the commercial casters all use oil burners.
my own furnace use a waste oil burner.
how would you do it?

Stealth pilot

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Stealth Pilot" > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:53:06 -0600, "Maxwell" <#$$9#@%%%.^^^> wrote:
>
>
>>If someone is considering following the advice of you or your buddy
>>Stealth,
>>I hope they have plenty of time and money to waste on the project, because
>>learning metal casting by trial and error is a very lenghty, costly and
>>most
>>often fruitless endeavor.
>>
> strange attitude you have there.
> most of my castings have actually been completely successful using the
> techniques I describe.

Perhaps you would share some photo of your castings, melting and molding
equipment.


>
> ok contribute something.
> how would you go about making an oil burner for the furnace?
> here in perth the commercial casters all use oil burners.
> my own furnace use a waste oil burner.
> how would you do it?

Off topic here, but someone would have to design it first. One would need a
drawing or photo.