Sorry, Spruce and Jim Irwin [Archive]

Ken Sandyeggo

October 9th 03, 02:01 AM

Big John > wrote in message >...
> Kyle
>
> Is this a Nigerian post?
>
> Big John

No, it's just another ass-wipe Larry Smith post. Guess he doesn't
know how to contact Aircraft Spruce in California. He thinks that if
he calls cross-country, he has to yell through a hose. Wonder how a
credit card can have 20k in it's account? If it's a debit card, not
everyone takes them, as any normal person with at least average
intelligence would know. I think he inhaled too much plastic
drill-dust when he drilled the wrong holes for his latches for his
*******/orphan plane. Why couldn't your friend order his own battery?
Are you the dominant butch when you play house? Really Larry, do you
possibly think that anyone gives a **** where you ordered a battery
from or that you screwed up the attempted purchase? At least you're
worth a few chuckles when you post your boring, inane ramblings.

KJSDCAUSA

> On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 16:59:36 GMT, "Kyle Boatright"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Larry Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Jim, you and your company were quite courteous on a prop bolt exchange, so
> I
> >> was gonna order some more mdse. And still hope to, even after this.
> This
> >> morning I tried to order a Concorde battery for a friend's 172, and the
> >> snappy lady in Griffin rejected the card, for curious reasons.
> >>
> >> After a call to Desser (Memphis) the order is complete and the battery
> said
> >> to be on its way. Same card too. There's only 20k in that account.
> That
> >> ought to cover a $100 battery.
> >
> >What's your credit card number and expiration date? I'll check into it.
> >
> >KB
> >

Larry Smith

October 9th 03, 02:23 PM

"Kennie Eggsucker" > chattered in message
om...
> Big John > wrote in message
>...
> > Kyle
> >

Oooh, ain't Little Mooz the organ grinder's monkey angry! Bzzzzt.
Granolawicz, you ol' Ercoupe driver and perennial defendant, admit you just
got slapped for giving false legal advice.

wmbjk

October 9th 03, 04:22 PM

"Ken Sandyeggo" > wrote in message
om...

>Wonder how a
> credit card can have 20k in it's account? If it's a debit card, not
> everyone takes them, as any normal person with at least average
> intelligence would know.

Another possibility - he tried to use his friend's debit card, but the
shipping address didn't match the card holder's address. Any way you
slice it, the latchless one seems able to foul up the simplest purchase.
Even worse, there's a guy driving a 172 who needed service from
Latchless's Batteries and Whining Emporium. Yikes!

Wayne

Barnyard BOb --

October 9th 03, 05:34 PM

On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 08:22:54 -0700, "wmbjk" > wrote:

>
>"Ken Sandyeggo" > wrote in message
om...
>
>>Wonder how a
>> credit card can have 20k in it's account? If it's a debit card, not
>> everyone takes them, as any normal person with at least average
>> intelligence would know.
>
>Another possibility - he tried to use his friend's debit card, but the
>shipping address didn't match the card holder's address. Any way you
>slice it, the latchless one seems able to foul up the simplest purchase.
>Even worse, there's a guy driving a 172 who needed service from
>Latchless's Batteries and Whining Emporium. Yikes!
>
>Wayne
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

My turn to pile on, but I'm in a generous mood today.

Therefore....
Even tho Latchless is a super stickler when he rates others
remarks, I'll give him the nod that SOMEBODY has a credit
card with a $20,000 limit.. since I carry a couple over that. :-)

Barnyard BOb -- no cash, but lotsa' credit

Juan Jimenez

October 9th 03, 06:54 PM

"Larry Smith" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Juan Jimenez" > wrote in message
> news:eyWgb.708044$Ho3.156037@sccrnsc03...
> > Jim's email is not rec.aviation.homebuilt. I
gather
> > you don't really want him to read this or do something about it?
> >
>
> Oh, Little Mooz, how sharper than a serpent's sting!

Indeed. It's obvious from the comeback you didn't even think about the
possibility. <sigh>

Larry Smith

October 10th 03, 12:03 AM

"Juan Jimenez" > wrote in message
. net...
>
> "Larry Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Juan Jimenez" > wrote in message
> > news:eyWgb.708044$Ho3.156037@sccrnsc03...
> > > Jim's email is not rec.aviation.homebuilt. I
> gather
> > > you don't really want him to read this or do something about it?
> > >
> >
> > Oh, Little Mooz, how sharper than a serpent's sting!
>
> Indeed. It's obvious from the comeback you didn't even think about the
> possibility. <sigh>
>

I've exchanged email with him before and talked by phone. Why bother him?
It will get back to him that he has a blabby halfwit taking a salary and
pi**ing away his company's goodwill in Georgia. Why are all you goonies
scampering out of your holes to screech? Spruce periodically catches hell
in this NG because, though it's a good solid company, it has a few duds from
time to time who are innate screwups.

I haven't seen one post yet from anyone who really knows what happened.
The pore ol' goat in Griffin didn't even try to process the card.

What are YOU worried about, Little Moozie? I'll have the battery tomorrow.

Juan Jimenez

October 10th 03, 06:27 AM

"Larry Smith" > wrote in message
...
>
> I've exchanged email with him before and talked by phone. Why bother
him?
> It will get back to him that he has a blabby halfwit taking a salary and
> pi**ing away his company's goodwill in Georgia. Why are all you goonies
> scampering out of your holes to screech? Spruce periodically catches hell
> in this NG because, though it's a good solid company, it has a few duds
from
> time to time who are innate screwups.

The question is, if someone has a problem with one of your employees, do you
prefer that the person bring up the issue with you, instead of posting it on
the newsgroup so that maybe, eventually, it would get back to you, after
everyone else read it?

Or maybe it's just that you prefer to be treated like you treat Irwin. Could
be, there are weird people everywhere, look who got elected governor of
Wackyfornia.

im Irwin

October 10th 03, 05:31 PM

Sorry to post on this news group, I need to get an email to Larry
Smith, yet the email address below for him is not working. Thank you
for your understanding..

To:
To: Larry Smith

Dear Larry,

We have been forwarded an email from the rec.aviation.homebuilt
(google groups) regarding a battery you tried to order earlier this
week. Our sales rep in GA has already emailed our office manager
yesterday giving us a "heads up" to expect your email.

When you provided the credit card number, our computer system
determined that this same card had been used by a different customer
in a previous order. It gave the name of that order as Warren
Hunnicut, although you said the name on the card was Rosalie McIntosh.
In situation where names do not match we ask the customer for the
billing address of the credit card to verify that it is the owner who
is using it. I do understand that you would not have the address if
you were using someone else's credit card, but requesting this
information is the only way we can insure that a credit card us not
used with out the cardholders authorization.

Please accept my apologies for the inconvenience this caused. I am
sorry that you decided to order with a different supplier, as we do
appreciate your calling Aircraft Spruce. It the sales rep would have
had the opportunity to bring this to the manger for approval to ship,
we would have done so immediately. We appreciate your business and
hope that we have the opportunity to serve you in the future.

Regards,

Jim Irwin
President, Aircraft Spruce

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 16:59:36 GMT, "Kyle Boatright"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Larry Smith" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >> Jim, you and your company were quite courteous on a prop bolt exchange, so
> I
> > >> was gonna order some more mdse. And still hope to, even after this.
> This
> > >> morning I tried to order a Concorde battery for a friend's 172, and the
> > >> snappy lady in Griffin rejected the card, for curious reasons.
> > >>
> > >> After a call to Desser (Memphis) the order is complete and the battery
> said
> > >> to be on its way. Same card too. There's only 20k in that account.
> That
> > >> ought to cover a $100 battery.
> > >
> > >What's your credit card number and expiration date? I'll check into it.
> > >
> > >KB
> > >

Jerry Springer

October 10th 03, 06:46 PM

Another good reason to not use ACS. This is the second time Mr Irwin
has posted personal information to this Newsgroup. The guy is a moron.

Jerry

im Irwin wrote:
> Sorry to post on this news group, I need to get an email to Larry
> Smith, yet the email address below for him is not working. Thank you
> for your understanding..
>
> To:
> To: Larry Smith
>
> Dear Larry,
>
> We have been forwarded an email from the rec.aviation.homebuilt
> (google groups) regarding a battery you tried to order earlier this
> week. Our sales rep in GA has already emailed our office manager
> yesterday giving us a "heads up" to expect your email.
>
> When you provided the credit card number, our computer system
> determined that this same card had been used by a different customer
> in a previous order. It gave the name of that order as Warren
> Hunnicut, although you said the name on the card was Rosalie McIntosh.
> In situation where names do not match we ask the customer for the
> billing address of the credit card to verify that it is the owner who
> is using it. I do understand that you would not have the address if
> you were using someone else's credit card, but requesting this
> information is the only way we can insure that a credit card us not
> used with out the cardholders authorization.
>
> Please accept my apologies for the inconvenience this caused. I am
> sorry that you decided to order with a different supplier, as we do
> appreciate your calling Aircraft Spruce. It the sales rep would have
> had the opportunity to bring this to the manger for approval to ship,
> we would have done so immediately. We appreciate your business and
> hope that we have the opportunity to serve you in the future.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim Irwin
> President, Aircraft Spruce
>
>
> On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 16:59:36 GMT, "Kyle Boatright"
>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Larry Smith" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>>Jim, you and your company were quite courteous on a prop bolt exchange, so
>>
>> I
>>
>>>>>was gonna order some more mdse. And still hope to, even after this.
>>
>> This
>>
>>>>>morning I tried to order a Concorde battery for a friend's 172, and the
>>>>>snappy lady in Griffin rejected the card, for curious reasons.
>>>>>
>>>>>After a call to Desser (Memphis) the order is complete and the battery
>>
>> said
>>
>>>>>to be on its way. Same card too. There's only 20k in that account.
>>
>> That
>>
>>>>>ought to cover a $100 battery.
>>>>
>>>>What's your credit card number and expiration date? I'll check into it.
>>>>
>>>>KB
>>>>

Jim Weir

October 10th 03, 07:11 PM

I think you are off base. Jim Irwin tried to post an answer that was printed
here in this group (and THAT was off base as well) by email to a dead or phony
email account.

Were I in the same position, trying to rectify a situation with no good way of
contacting the guy, I'd have done the same thing.

Jim

Jerry Springer >
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

->Another good reason to not use ACS. This is the second time Mr Irwin
->has posted personal information to this Newsgroup. The guy is a moron.
->
->Jerry
->
->im Irwin wrote:
->> Sorry to post on this news group, I need to get an email to Larry
->> Smith, yet the email address below for him is not working.

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

Morgans

October 10th 03, 07:22 PM

"Jerry Springer" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Another good reason to not use ACS. This is the second time Mr Irwin
> has posted personal information to this Newsgroup. The guy is a moron.
>
> Jerry
>
>
I see no personal information of use to anyone. He is responding in the
same forum that the complaint was first placed. Sounds like latchless Larry
has struck again.

Boy, I love kill files!
--
Jim in NC

alexy

October 10th 03, 07:31 PM

"Morgans" > wrote:

>
>"Jerry Springer" > wrote in message
ink.net...
>> Another good reason to not use ACS. This is the second time Mr Irwin
>> has posted personal information to this Newsgroup. The guy is a moron.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>I see no personal information of use to anyone. He is responding in the
>same forum that the complaint was first placed.

I had the same reaction. However, on rereading, it is clear that Irwin
would have been better advised to substitute "John Doe" and "Jane
Smith" for the real people other than Larry, who were not mentioned by
him.
--
Alex
Make the obvious change in the return address to reply by email.

RobertR237

October 10th 03, 08:06 PM

In article et>, Jerry
Springer > writes:

>
>Another good reason to not use ACS. This is the second time Mr Irwin
>has posted personal information to this Newsgroup. The guy is a moron.
>
>Jerry
>
>

Well, considering the fact that Latchless Larry had used this Newsgroup for
posting to Irwin and ASS, I don't see a problem with him responding in the same
forum and setting the record straight.

Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

Speaking of Morons

October 10th 03, 08:06 PM

> Jerry Springer > wrote:

> Another good reason to not use ACS. This is the second time Mr Irwin
> has posted personal information to this Newsgroup. The guy is a moron.

Oh Really..... So if a regular to this newsgroup like Latchless Larry
who is generally considered a moron themselves goes and posts a
negative comment about a specific business that's OK.

But if the owner of that business comes to this newsgroup and logically
explains what happened and apologizes for the inconvenience......
They are a moron for clearing the air about what really happened.

In other words you and everyone else can use this public forum
to spit on a bona fide business person who has millions of dollars
invested, many years of hard work invested, and I presume does
millions of dollars of business a year and they should just sit
there and take their lumps along with any ill will and do nothing
to clear the air.

With an attitude like yours Mr. Springer you ought to look in
a mirror before calling anyone a moron.

Larry Smith

October 10th 03, 08:15 PM

"Jim Weir" > wrote in message
...
> I think you are off base. Jim Irwin tried to post an answer that was
printed
> here in this group (and THAT was off base as well)

Screw you. Anytime I catch a homebuilder supplier or similar business
off-base like this one, I will call it down in public in a public forum.
If you don't like it, ES.

by email to a dead or phony
> email account.
>
> Were I in the same position, trying to rectify a situation with no good
way of
> contacting the guy, I'd have done the same thing.

By invading the privacy of innocent third parties? WTH did you have for
breakfast?
>
> Jim
>

Well, Jim, these are two real people whose names should not have been used
or published in an internet NG without their permission, and if the asshole
woman in Griffin, whose name Jim Irwin did not divulge, btw, had listened to
me instead of interrupting repeatedly while I tried to explain, none of this
goofy flummery would have occurred. And now I'm not so sure I want to buy
from ACS, ever again.

In addition my e-mail address may not be working, but not because of
anything I have done. I am trying to find out what the problem is and in
the meantime I am getting plenty of goddamn spam in my mailbox. So get
your facts together before you open your mouth.

On the other hand, three cheers. The aircraft battery arrived today from
Desser Tire and Rubber Company in Memphis, TN.

>
> Jerry Springer >
> shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:
>
> ->Another good reason to not use ACS. This is the second time Mr Irwin
> ->has posted personal information to this Newsgroup. The guy is a moron.
> ->
> ->Jerry
> ->
> ->im Irwin wrote:
> ->> Sorry to post on this news group, I need to get an email to Larry
> ->> Smith, yet the email address below for him is not working.
>
>
>
> Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
> VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
> http://www.rst-engr.com

Larry Smith

October 10th 03, 08:17 PM

"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jerry Springer" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
> > Another good reason to not use ACS. This is the second time Mr Irwin
> > has posted personal information to this Newsgroup. The guy is a moron.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> I see no personal information of use to anyone. He is responding in the
> same forum that the complaint was first placed. Sounds like latchless
Larry
> has struck again.
>
> Boy, I love kill files!
> --
> Jim in NC

Pity the poor kids in NC this drunken morphine-head teaches. At least he
*claims* to be a schoolteacher. Damned if he'd be teaching my kids.

Larry Smith

October 10th 03, 08:22 PM

"RobertR237" > wrote in message
...
> In article et>, Jerry
> Springer > writes:
>
> >
> >Another good reason to not use ACS. This is the second time Mr Irwin
> >has posted personal information to this Newsgroup. The guy is a moron.
> >
> >Jerry
> >
> >
>
> Well, considering the fact that Latchless Larry had used this Newsgroup
for
> posting to Irwin and ASS, I don't see a problem with him responding in the
same
> forum and setting the record straight.

You've got to be dumb as a gum stump. WTH does Irwin get off publishing
the names of innocent third parties who have nothing to do with the beef I
had with Irwin's sea-monkey employee?

Let me know when you get ready to fire up that ratplane penguin you say
you're building so I can take cover.

Gig Giacona

October 10th 03, 08:24 PM

This was no different than if Larry had stood in the street in front of ACS
and yelled his complaint. They have every right to walk out into the street
and yell thier answer right back at him.

Morgans

October 10th 03, 08:24 PM

"alexy" > wrote in message
...
> "Morgans" > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Jerry Springer" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
> >> Another good reason to not use ACS. This is the second time Mr Irwin
> >> has posted personal information to this Newsgroup. The guy is a moron.
> >>
> >> Jerry
> >>
> >>
> >I see no personal information of use to anyone. He is responding in the
> >same forum that the complaint was first placed.
>
> I had the same reaction. However, on rereading, it is clear that Irwin
> would have been better advised to substitute "John Doe" and "Jane
> Smith" for the real people other than Larry, who were not mentioned by
> him.
> --
> Alex
################################

True, it might have been smart to change the names, but without the number,
they are of no use, and no harm.
--
Jim in NC

Larry Smith

October 10th 03, 08:25 PM

"Speaking of Morons" > wrote in message
m...
> > Jerry Springer > wrote:
>
> > Another good reason to not use ACS. This is the second time Mr Irwin
> > has posted personal information to this Newsgroup. The guy is a moron.
>
> Oh Really....blah,blah,blah

I'll use this NG to call down a bum supplier any time I take a notion, and
if you don't like it, anonymous coward, show yourself, and we'll meet eye to
eye, arm to arm, and brow to brow. Then we'll see how brave you are. In
the meantime you are a slimy little yellow-belly.

Larry Smith

October 10th 03, 08:30 PM

"Gig Giacona" > wrote in message
...
> This was no different than if Larry had stood in the street in front of
ACS
> and yelled his complaint. They have every right to walk out into the
street
> and yell thier answer right back at him.

Not exactly, goofy. Two dramatically different audiences. This one
includes anonymous kooks like you and a million others with diminished and
scrambled synapses. More than a few have already harped in. Even an
inveterate kook political candidate has stood on his hind legs and howled.

Larry Smith

October 10th 03, 08:37 PM

"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "alexy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Morgans" > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Jerry Springer" > wrote in message
> > ink.net...
> > >> Another good reason to not use ACS. This is the second time Mr Irwin
> > >> has posted personal information to this Newsgroup. The guy is a
moron.
> > >>
> > >> Jerry
> > >>
> > >>
> > >I see no personal information of use to anyone. He is responding in
the
> > >same forum that the complaint was first placed.
> >
> > I had the same reaction. However, on rereading, it is clear that Irwin
> > would have been better advised to substitute "John Doe" and "Jane
> > Smith" for the real people other than Larry, who were not mentioned by
> > him.
> > --
> > Alex
> ################################
>
> True, it might have been smart to change the names, but without the
number,
> they are of no use, and no harm.
> --
> Jim in NC

Why don't you publish *your* real name here, morphine-head? I'm in NC.
Maybe you'd like to discuss this face to face. You wouldn't, course.
You're a sniveling little anesthetized wimp who talks real big with a
keyboard. Besides that, you couldn't assemble a pile of tiddly-winks.

Big John

October 10th 03, 10:12 PM

Do they let people with the 'Road Rage' expressed on this thread fly
airplanes?

It might be a good idea to send the postings on this thread to OK City
and let them require a Physco exam at the next physical.

They won't let me fly with a pacemaker, but let people like this fly,
Sheeesh!

Big John

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:25:22 -0400, "Larry Smith"
> wrote:

>
>"Speaking of Morons" > wrote in message
m...
>> > Jerry Springer > wrote:
>>
>> > Another good reason to not use ACS. This is the second time Mr Irwin
>> > has posted personal information to this Newsgroup. The guy is a moron.
>>
>> Oh Really....blah,blah,blah
>
>I'll use this NG to call down a bum supplier any time I take a notion, and
>if you don't like it, anonymous coward, show yourself, and we'll meet eye to
>eye, arm to arm, and brow to brow. Then we'll see how brave you are. In
>the meantime you are a slimy little yellow-belly.
>

Gig Giacona

October 10th 03, 10:35 PM

"Larry Smith" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gig Giacona" > wrote in message
> ...
> > This was no different than if Larry had stood in the street in front of
> ACS
> > and yelled his complaint. They have every right to walk out into the
> street
> > and yell thier answer right back at him.
>
> Not exactly, goofy. Two dramatically different audiences. This one
> includes anonymous kooks like you and a million others with diminished and
> scrambled synapses. More than a few have already harped in. Even an
> inveterate kook political candidate has stood on his hind legs and howled.
>
>

This fun. Let's all poke Larry with a stick and watch him bark.

Larry Smith

October 10th 03, 10:49 PM

"Gig Giacona" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Larry Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Gig Giacona" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > This was no different than if Larry had stood in the street in front
of
> > ACS
> > > and yelled his complaint. They have every right to walk out into the
> > street
> > > and yell thier answer right back at him.
> >
> > Not exactly, goofy. Two dramatically different audiences. This one
> > includes anonymous kooks like you and a million others with diminished
and
> > scrambled synapses. More than a few have already harped in. Even an
> > inveterate kook political candidate has stood on his hind legs and
howled.
> >
> >
>
> This fun. Let's all poke Larry with a stick and watch him bark.

Bring your stick and come along, Giacomo, but be prepared to meet a bigger
stick. Got the wheel spats for that 2/3 scale Ercoupe built yet?

Larry Smith

October 10th 03, 11:07 PM

"Big John" > wrote in message
...
> Do they let people with the 'Road Rage' expressed on this thread fly
> airplanes?
>
Careful, little fella. Last time you picked on somebody you got slapped
around, iirc.

Barnyard BOb --

October 11th 03, 12:59 AM

>Do they let people with the 'Road Rage' expressed on this thread fly
>airplanes?
>
>It might be a good idea to send the postings on this thread to OK City
>and let them require a Physco exam at the next physical.
>
>Big John
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

This tactic sends chills down my spine as much now
as it did when it was effectively used in Nazi Germany.

Barnyard BOb -- end justifies the means?

RobertR237

October 11th 03, 03:36 AM

In article >, "Morgans"
> writes:

>>
>> I had the same reaction. However, on rereading, it is clear that Irwin
>> would have been better advised to substitute "John Doe" and "Jane
>> Smith" for the real people other than Larry, who were not mentioned by
>> him.
>> --
>> Alex
>################################
>
>True, it might have been smart to change the names, but without the number,
>they are of no use, and no harm.
>--
>Jim in NC
>

Further to that point, had he used John Doe or any other name it would just
have given rise to it being a phoney story. The fact is that Irwin had the
full details of who was conning who with two or three different names and one
card. It really makes one wonder what was really going on. Then again,
Latchless does have an excellent record of dealing with various companies and
has repeatedly proven that he is a patient and thoughtful person.

Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

RobertR237

October 11th 03, 03:36 AM

In article >, "Larry Smith"
> writes:

>
>"RobertR237" > wrote in message
...
>> In article et>, Jerry
>> Springer > writes:
>>
>> >
>> >Another good reason to not use ACS. This is the second time Mr Irwin
>> >has posted personal information to this Newsgroup. The guy is a moron.
>> >
>> >Jerry
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Well, considering the fact that Latchless Larry had used this Newsgroup
>for
>> posting to Irwin and ASS, I don't see a problem with him responding in the
>same
>> forum and setting the record straight.
>
>You've got to be dumb as a gum stump. WTH does Irwin get off publishing
>the names of innocent third parties who have nothing to do with the beef I
>had with Irwin's sea-monkey employee?
>
>Let me know when you get ready to fire up that ratplane penguin you say
>you're building so I can take cover.
>
>

Sorry Latchless, you asked for it and deserved it. You shouldn't have opened
the can of worms in a public forum before finding out from the souce or at
least making a resonable attempt to do so. Your past record of dealing with
companies that don't kiss ass is plenty of justification for the reply you got.
While posting of third party names in the reply was a little off base, I
suspect it was the only way to prove the point without your claiming a bunch of
bull.

Now any more names or personal attacks you want to throw my way, go ahead, it
doesn't mean **** to me.

Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

Jerry Springer

October 11th 03, 03:50 AM

Mr. Irwin has done this before only that time he posted much more
personal information. Mr. Wier you can think as you please I don't
care. I certainly don't agree with Latchless Larry most of the time
but Mr. Irwin should be taking the high road and not post peoples names
that are not involved with this garbage. Mr. Irwin basically called me a
liar in this newsgroup a few years ago tell I proved him wrong using his
own catalogue. I have had their phone people flat out lie to me about a
part I wanted, other times the price they told me on the phone was about
half of the price they charged me. I have no use for this company or its
personel. I live right in the middle of RV country and hear the same
stories over and over again from other builders.

Jerry

Jim Weir wrote:
> I think you are off base. Jim Irwin tried to post an answer that was printed
> here in this group (and THAT was off base as well) by email to a dead or phony
> email account.
>
> Were I in the same position, trying to rectify a situation with no good way of
> contacting the guy, I'd have done the same thing.
>
> Jim
>
>
> Jerry Springer >
> shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:
>
> ->Another good reason to not use ACS. This is the second time Mr Irwin
> ->has posted personal information to this Newsgroup. The guy is a moron.
> ->
> ->Jerry
> ->
> ->im Irwin wrote:
> ->> Sorry to post on this news group, I need to get an email to Larry
> ->> Smith, yet the email address below for him is not working.
>
>
>
> Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
> VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
> http://www.rst-engr.com

Morgans

October 11th 03, 04:46 AM

"Jerry Springer" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Mr. Irwin has done this before only that time he posted much more
> personal information. Mr. Wier you can think as you please I don't
> care. I certainly don't agree with Latchless Larry most of the time
> but Mr. Irwin should be taking the high road and not post peoples names
> that are not involved with this garbage. Mr. Irwin basically called me a
> liar in this newsgroup a few years ago tell I proved him wrong using his
> own catalogue. I have had their phone people flat out lie to me about a
> part I wanted, other times the price they told me on the phone was about
> half of the price they charged me. I have no use for this company or its
> personel. I live right in the middle of RV country and hear the same
> stories over and over again from other builders.
>
> Jerry

Sounds like you have an axe to grind, and are still doing it in a public
forum.

Help me out here. And the difference between Mr. Irwin and you is.....?
--
Jim in NC

Juan Jimenez

October 11th 03, 04:52 AM

Well, waddaya know... seems there's always two sides to the story...

"im Irwin" > wrote in message
om...
> Sorry to post on this news group, I need to get an email to Larry
> Smith, yet the email address below for him is not working. Thank you
> for your understanding..
>
> To:
> To: Larry Smith
>
> Dear Larry,
>
> We have been forwarded an email from the rec.aviation.homebuilt
> (google groups) regarding a battery you tried to order earlier this
> week. Our sales rep in GA has already emailed our office manager
> yesterday giving us a "heads up" to expect your email.
>
> When you provided the credit card number, our computer system
> determined that this same card had been used by a different customer
> in a previous order. It gave the name of that order as Warren
> Hunnicut, although you said the name on the card was Rosalie McIntosh.
> In situation where names do not match we ask the customer for the
> billing address of the credit card to verify that it is the owner who
> is using it. I do understand that you would not have the address if
> you were using someone else's credit card, but requesting this
> information is the only way we can insure that a credit card us not
> used with out the cardholders authorization.
>
> Please accept my apologies for the inconvenience this caused. I am
> sorry that you decided to order with a different supplier, as we do
> appreciate your calling Aircraft Spruce. It the sales rep would have
> had the opportunity to bring this to the manger for approval to ship,
> we would have done so immediately. We appreciate your business and
> hope that we have the opportunity to serve you in the future.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim Irwin
> President, Aircraft Spruce
>
>
> On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 16:59:36 GMT, "Kyle Boatright"
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >"Larry Smith" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >> Jim, you and your company were quite courteous on a prop bolt
exchange, so
> > I
> > > >> was gonna order some more mdse. And still hope to, even after
this.
> > This
> > > >> morning I tried to order a Concorde battery for a friend's 172, and
the
> > > >> snappy lady in Griffin rejected the card, for curious reasons.
> > > >>
> > > >> After a call to Desser (Memphis) the order is complete and the
battery
> > said
> > > >> to be on its way. Same card too. There's only 20k in that
account.
> > That
> > > >> ought to cover a $100 battery.
> > > >
> > > >What's your credit card number and expiration date? I'll check into
it.
> > > >
> > > >KB
> > > >

Juan Jimenez

October 11th 03, 04:54 AM

"Larry Smith" > wrote in message
...
>
> Not exactly, goofy. Two dramatically different audiences. This one
> includes anonymous kooks like you and a million others with diminished and
> scrambled synapses. More than a few have already harped in. Even an
> inveterate kook political candidate has stood on his hind legs and howled.

Go whine somewhere else, putz. If you didn't want this dragged out in the
open you should have had enough sense not to do so in the first place.

Juan Jimenez

October 11th 03, 04:56 AM

Goddamn, the foundation of my house shook again today. Sure enough, I come
check here the Reed is agreeing with me again.

"RobertR237" > wrote in message
...
>
> Sorry Latchless, you asked for it and deserved it. You shouldn't have
opened
> the can of worms in a public forum before finding out from the souce or at
> least making a resonable attempt to do so. Your past record of dealing
with
> companies that don't kiss ass is plenty of justification for the reply you
got.
> While posting of third party names in the reply was a little off base, I
> suspect it was the only way to prove the point without your claiming a
bunch of
> bull.
>
> Now any more names or personal attacks you want to throw my way, go ahead,
it
> doesn't mean **** to me.
>
>
>
> Bob Reed
> www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
> KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....
>
> "Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
> pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
> (M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)
>

Juan Jimenez

October 11th 03, 04:57 AM

"Larry Smith" > wrote in message
...
>
> I'll use this NG to call down a bum supplier any time I take a notion

Then don't come crying to mama when the supplier turns out to have a better
story than you and stomps on your childish crap.

Jerry Springer

October 11th 03, 05:08 AM

I did not bring him up tell he posted other peoples names that are not
involved in this discussion.

Morgans wrote:
> "Jerry Springer" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
>
>>Mr. Irwin has done this before only that time he posted much more
>>personal information. Mr. Wier you can think as you please I don't
>>care. I certainly don't agree with Latchless Larry most of the time
>>but Mr. Irwin should be taking the high road and not post peoples names
>>that are not involved with this garbage. Mr. Irwin basically called me a
>>liar in this newsgroup a few years ago tell I proved him wrong using his
>>own catalogue. I have had their phone people flat out lie to me about a
>>part I wanted, other times the price they told me on the phone was about
>>half of the price they charged me. I have no use for this company or its
>>personel. I live right in the middle of RV country and hear the same
>>stories over and over again from other builders.
>>
>>Jerry
>
>
> Sounds like you have an axe to grind, and are still doing it in a public
> forum.
>
> Help me out here. And the difference between Mr. Irwin and you is.....?

Big John

October 11th 03, 08:19 AM

Sonny

I guess the shoe must have fit????

Big John

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:07:59 -0400, "Larry Smith"
> wrote:

>
>"Big John" > wrote in message
...
>> Do they let people with the 'Road Rage' expressed on this thread fly
>> airplanes?
>>
>Careful, little fella. Last time you picked on somebody you got slapped
>around, iirc.
>

Big John

October 11th 03, 08:31 AM

BOb

I'm supprised at you trying to play the 'race' card.

Big John

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:59:08 -0500, Barnyard BOb -- >
wrote:

>
>
>>Do they let people with the 'Road Rage' expressed on this thread fly
>>airplanes?
>>
>>It might be a good idea to send the postings on this thread to OK City
>>and let them require a Physco exam at the next physical.
>>
>>Big John
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>This tactic sends chills down my spine as much now
>as it did when it was effectively used in Nazi Germany.
>
>
>Barnyard BOb -- end justifies the means?

Barnyard BOb --

October 11th 03, 09:50 AM

>>>Do they let people with the 'Road Rage' expressed on this thread fly
>>>airplanes?
>>>
>>>It might be a good idea to send the postings on this thread to OK City
>>>and let them require a Physco exam at the next physical.
>>>
>>>Big John
>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>This tactic sends chills down my spine as much now
>>as it did when it was effectively used in Nazi Germany.
>>
>>
>>Barnyard BOb -- end justifies the means?

>BOb
>
>I'm supprised at you trying to play the 'race' card.
>
>Big John
+++++++++++++++++++++++++

RACE CARD?????

Where does children brainwashed into snitching on
family members to the Gestapo have an element of race?

Further, I could be Jewish....
just like Sammy Davis Jr, if I cared to.
Again, nothing to do with RACE, if that is what
you are alluding to.

I'm surprised that you CONTINUE to advocate destroying
folks by snitching them off to the government just because
you don't have the fortitude to do the dirty deed in the light
of day for yourself.

IMO...
For you to label Internet free speech ROAD RAGE is absurd and
your recommendation to quell it.... misguided, if not dangerous.

What you continue to suggest is NOT A GOOD IDEA.
No way should freedom loving people support it.

Barnyard BOb -- Voltaire is my kinda guy

Larry Smith

October 11th 03, 02:06 PM

"Juan Jimenez" > wrote in message
news:68Lhb.534712$Oz4.433177@rwcrnsc54...
> Well, waddaya know... seems there's always two sides to the story...

Yep, our clueless little zoomcuddling shill, and Irwin's incomplete facts
are mostly accurate, except he left out details of the WHOLE story, which is
that ACS had erroneous info keyed into its computers and never attempted to
process the card.

ACS, thy name is caveat emptor ---- let the buyer beware. The same card I
legitimately used and it worked glitchless at Desser. The purchase is
complete and satisfactory, and anytime I want to take on a glitchy or
devious homebuilder supplier here in RAH I will in a heartbeat.

BTW, while I'm thinking about it, the New Gasair/Gastar litigation mill
with Mickey (Mouse) Via squeaking away as usual quietly settled its lawsuit
with OMF and was very slick at hiding the details of the settlement. The
federal judge had slapped the plaintiff around at just about every stage of
the proceedings, repeatedly denying its wailing prayers for relief. In
other words, Mouse's plaintiff went in like a piggy and came out like a
sausage.

Yoram Leshinski

October 11th 03, 05:04 PM

BOb

I think that Big John was right alluding to Road Rage in response to
Larchless' comment. Road Rage is, in my book, if I stop my car, jump
out and challenge you to come out too (and maybe take it farther from
there if you come out). Saying to someone, over the internet, come out
to meet me face to face is just the same. OK, so maybe it is not Road
Rage but Internet Rage. :-)

OTOH, referring to snitching in the same breath as the Nazis is a bit
far fetched. If snitching is so close to the Nazis that it runs
Goosebumps down your spine what would you say to the Snitch law that
is in force in every State, I think, and/or federally.

My comment above does not endorse or condem Latchless and his action
or Jim Irwin.

On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 03:50:50 -0500, Barnyard BOb -- >
wrote:

>Where does children brainwashed into snitching on
>family members to the Gestapo have an element of race?
>
>Further, I could be Jewish....
>just like Sammy Davis Jr, if I cared to.
>Again, nothing to do with RACE, if that is what
>you are alluding to.
>
>I'm surprised that you CONTINUE to advocate destroying
>folks by snitching them off to the government just because
>you don't have the fortitude to do the dirty deed in the light
>of day for yourself.
>
>IMO...
>For you to label Internet free speech ROAD RAGE is absurd and
>your recommendation to quell it.... misguided, if not dangerous.
>
>What you continue to suggest is NOT A GOOD IDEA.
>No way should freedom loving people support it.
>
>
>Barnyard BOb -- Voltaire is my kinda guy
>

Barnyard BOb --

October 11th 03, 07:00 PM

Yoram Leshinski wrote:

>BOb
>
>I think that Big John was right alluding to Road Rage in response to
>Larchless' comment. Road Rage is, in my book, if I stop my car, jump
>out and challenge you to come out too (and maybe take it farther from
>there if you come out). Saying to someone, over the internet, come out
>to meet me face to face is just the same. OK, so maybe it is not Road
>Rage but Internet Rage. :-)

There are many posts.
As an untrained psychologist or psychiatrist....
Which posts do you specifically know to qualify as RAGE
and worthy of being forwarded to the FAA?

>OTOH, referring to snitching in the same breath as the Nazis is a bit
>far fetched. If snitching is so close to the Nazis that it runs
>Goosebumps down your spine what would you say to the Snitch law that
>is in force in every State, I think, and/or federally.

More far fetched, IMO, is Big John advising readers here to
turn each other in to the FAA for posts he deems should
target pilots for possible grounding.

What "Snitch law(s)"?
Again, please be specific and where it
applies to speech of RAH posters.

>My comment above does not endorse or condem Latchless and his action
>or Jim Irwin.

So, unlike Big John, you would not have certain pilots here
be snitched on to the government and be subjected to having
their flying privileges revoked if Big Brother took a mind to?

Hmmmm....
Still, it may be a "good idea" to keep an eye on you, too. <g>

Barnyard BOb ---

wmbjk

October 11th 03, 07:29 PM

"Larry Smith" > wrote in message
...
>
> Yep, our clueless little zoomcuddling shill, and Irwin's incomplete
facts
> are mostly accurate, except he left out details of the WHOLE story,
which is
> that ACS had erroneous info keyed into its computers and never
attempted to
> process the card.

I put in an emergency call to Warren Buffet about this tragedy. He
suggested that you coulda' used your own card number (assuming you have
one), and had your buddy reimburse you. But he asked what kind of a
lugnut makes multiple phone calls and starts such a big ruckus over a
hundred bucks. He also said that Parker and Stone ought to write an
episode about the trials and tribulations of being you.

Wayne

Larry Smith

October 11th 03, 07:43 PM

"Yoram Leshinski" > wrote in message
...
> BOb
>
> I think that Big John was right alluding to Road Rage

Yurin, it wasn't an allusion; his statement was express.

in response to
> Larchless' comment. Road Rage is, in my book, if I stop my car, jump
> out and challenge you to come out too (and maybe take it farther from
> there if you come out). Saying to someone, over the internet, come out
> to meet me face to face is just the same. OK, so maybe it is not Road
> Rage but Internet Rage. :-)

Was I ticked? Yeah. Did I challenge someone to a duel? Nope. Because
I knew none of those anonymous idiots had the spine to meet eyeball to
eyeball. They're cowards. Morgans is a dopehead who claims to teach
school in NC, and Giancana is an illiterate invertebrate.

>
> OTOH, referring to snitching in the same breath as the Nazis is a bit
> far fetched.

No, it ain't and it's particularly unsavory of this shady character who says
he flew P-51's, the aircraft which turned the tide against the fascist
Nazis, to solicit yahoos in this NG to petition the FAA for my ticket,
ANYBODY's ticket. He's a scumbag.

If snitching is so close to the Nazis that it runs
> Goosebumps down your spine what would you say to the Snitch law that
> is in force in every State, I think, and/or federally.

Utterly absurd. Quote such a snitch law even remotely similar. Snitch
laws are designed to protect people who expose violations of the public
trust. You aren't very bright, are you?

Am I supposed to have violated the public trust by raking one of Jim Irwin's
common scolds over the coals?

> My comment above does not endorse or condem Latchless and his action
> or Jim Irwin.
>
>
>
> On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 03:50:50 -0500, Barnyard BOb -- >
> wrote:
>
>
> >Where does children brainwashed into snitching on
> >family members to the Gestapo have an element of race?

It doesn't. Maybe the poor guy has gotten senile and is incompetent.

> >
> >Further, I could be Jewish....
> >just like Sammy Davis Jr, if I cared to.
> >Again, nothing to do with RACE, if that is what
> >you are alluding to.
> >
> >I'm surprised that you CONTINUE to advocate destroying
> >folks by snitching them off to the government just because
> >you don't have the fortitude to do the dirty deed in the light
> >of day for yourself.

Maybe he should reveal his full name so it could be found if he really DID
fly P-51's for Uncle Sam or is just another blathering fake.

He was completely out of line when he started a fight with Bill Phillips.
Got a good slapping for it too.

> >
> >IMO...
> >For you to label Internet free speech ROAD RAGE is absurd and
> >your recommendation to quell it.... misguided, if not dangerous.

> >
> >What you continue to suggest is NOT A GOOD IDEA.
> >No way should freedom loving people support it.
> >
> >
> >Barnyard BOb -- Voltaire is my kinda guy

Would you mind if I claim kinship with him too?
> >
>

Barnyard BOb --

October 11th 03, 09:30 PM

>> >What you continue to suggest is NOT A GOOD IDEA.
>> >No way should freedom loving people support it.
>> >
>> >
>> >Barnyard BOb -- Voltaire is my kinda guy
>
>Would you mind if I claim kinship with him too?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Remember that "kiss of death" thingy? <g>

Barnyard BOb -- Over 50 years of flight

Big John

October 11th 03, 10:22 PM

Larry and others

The postings in question were in a public forum and seen by anyone who
'tuned in'. How can you describe it as snitching if they were
extracted from this public forum and brought to the attention of the
FAA? No comparison to the German program.

Since BOb brought up the Jews. In the WWII era about 7 million Jews
were lost. During the same time period, about 8 million Germans,
including women and children were lost. (Eisenhower museum stats)

As you may have surmised from my postings, I'm an Alpha Male and don't
suffer fools, especially in a public forum.

Please don't fly when your thought process is so disturbed. Not flying
may save your and others lives???

Big John

On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:43:18 -0400, "Larry Smith"
> wrote:

>
>"Yoram Leshinski" > wrote in message
...
>> BOb
>>
>> I think that Big John was right alluding to Road Rage
>
>
>Yurin, it wasn't an allusion; his statement was express.
>
>
> in response to
>> Larchless' comment. Road Rage is, in my book, if I stop my car, jump
>> out and challenge you to come out too (and maybe take it farther from
>> there if you come out). Saying to someone, over the internet, come out
>> to meet me face to face is just the same. OK, so maybe it is not Road
>> Rage but Internet Rage. :-)
>
>Was I ticked? Yeah. Did I challenge someone to a duel? Nope. Because
>I knew none of those anonymous idiots had the spine to meet eyeball to
>eyeball. They're cowards. Morgans is a dopehead who claims to teach
>school in NC, and Giancana is an illiterate invertebrate.
>
>>
>> OTOH, referring to snitching in the same breath as the Nazis is a bit
>> far fetched.
>
>No, it ain't and it's particularly unsavory of this shady character who says
>he flew P-51's, the aircraft which turned the tide against the fascist
>Nazis, to solicit yahoos in this NG to petition the FAA for my ticket,
>ANYBODY's ticket. He's a scumbag.
>
>
> If snitching is so close to the Nazis that it runs
>> Goosebumps down your spine what would you say to the Snitch law that
>> is in force in every State, I think, and/or federally.
>
>Utterly absurd. Quote such a snitch law even remotely similar. Snitch
>laws are designed to protect people who expose violations of the public
>trust. You aren't very bright, are you?
>
>Am I supposed to have violated the public trust by raking one of Jim Irwin's
>common scolds over the coals?
>
>> My comment above does not endorse or condem Latchless and his action
>> or Jim Irwin.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 03:50:50 -0500, Barnyard BOb -- >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >Where does children brainwashed into snitching on
>> >family members to the Gestapo have an element of race?
>
>It doesn't. Maybe the poor guy has gotten senile and is incompetent.
>
>> >
>> >Further, I could be Jewish....
>> >just like Sammy Davis Jr, if I cared to.
>> >Again, nothing to do with RACE, if that is what
>> >you are alluding to.
>> >
>> >I'm surprised that you CONTINUE to advocate destroying
>> >folks by snitching them off to the government just because
>> >you don't have the fortitude to do the dirty deed in the light
>> >of day for yourself.
>
>Maybe he should reveal his full name so it could be found if he really DID
>fly P-51's for Uncle Sam or is just another blathering fake.
>
>He was completely out of line when he started a fight with Bill Phillips.
>Got a good slapping for it too.
>
>
>> >
>> >IMO...
>> >For you to label Internet free speech ROAD RAGE is absurd and
>> >your recommendation to quell it.... misguided, if not dangerous.
>
>
>> >
>> >What you continue to suggest is NOT A GOOD IDEA.
>> >No way should freedom loving people support it.
>> >
>> >
>> >Barnyard BOb -- Voltaire is my kinda guy
>
>Would you mind if I claim kinship with him too?
>> >
>>
>

Eric Miller

October 11th 03, 11:07 PM

"Big John" > wrote
> Since BOb brought up the Jews. In the WWII era about 7 million Jews
> were lost. During the same time period, about 8 million Germans,
> including women and children were lost. (Eisenhower museum stats)

Q: And what do the loss of Jews and loss of Germans in WWII have in common?
A: (As the agressors) the loss of both were the fault of the Germans.

> As you may have surmised from my postings, I'm an Alpha Male and don't
> suffer fools, especially in a public forum.

As an Alpha Alpha Male, I don't suffer mere Alpha Males lightly =D

Eric

Juan Jimenez

October 12th 03, 12:12 AM

"Larry Smith" > wrote in message
...
>
> Yep, our clueless little zoomcuddling shill

Not only are you a whining little putz, you can't even insult imaginatively.

<plonk!> Into the Twit List you go.

Barnyard BOb --

October 12th 03, 04:55 AM

Big John wrote:

>Larry and others
>
>The postings in question were in a public forum and seen by anyone who
>'tuned in'. How can you describe it as snitching if they were
>extracted from this public forum and brought to the attention of the
>FAA? No comparison to the German program.

REALLY?

Why then don't you just advocate that the FAA do their own dirty work
and monitor RAH for themselves instead of advocating that selected
behavior here be forwarded to them? Did BWB have your attitude
pegged?

I wouldn't bet against his position since this is your SECOND FORAY
into suggesting that we deliver our fellow man to the government for
extermination, er, further examination.

> Since BOb brought up the Jews. In the WWII era about 7 million Jews
>were lost. During the same time period, about 8 million Germans,
>including women and children were lost. (Eisenhower museum stats)

Whoa there, Spinmeister.
I didn't bring up the Jews or the Holocaust. YOU did.
I brought up that German kids were brainwashed into snitching on
family members to the Gestapo. Go back and review what I said
and what I took time to clarify for your earlier misunderstandings.
Your behavior sir, has parallels to those brainwashed munchkins.

>As you may have surmised from my postings, I'm an Alpha Male and don't
>suffer fools, especially in a public forum.

Hence, the self proclaimed title... 'Big' John?

Oi Veh !!!!!!

Barnyard BOb --

Dave Hyde

October 12th 03, 06:39 PM

Gig Giacona wrote:

> This was no different than if Larry had stood in the street in front of ACS
> and yelled his complaint. They have every right to walk out into the street
> and yell thier answer right back at him.

And I have 'every right' to not patronize a business that
behaves that way. I don't, and I won't.

Dave 'laundromat' Hyde

Dave Hyde

October 12th 03, 06:45 PM

Morgans wrote:

> And the difference between Mr. Irwin and you is.....?

Mr. Irwin runs a business and asks (through advertising)
that we as homebuilders send him money and personal
information. To the best of my knowlege Jerry Springer
does not. On more than one occasion smeone representing
AS&S has posted, to this newsgroup, personal information
received as a result of an order. To the best of my knowlege
Jerry Springer has not.

When I buy something that requires providing personal information,
I insist that that information be kept in confidence. For that
reson, and others, I do not do business with AS&S.

Dave 'attitude indicator' Hyde

Big John

October 12th 03, 09:34 PM

Eric

On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:07:41 GMT, "Eric Miller" >
wrote:

>"Big John" > wrote
>> Since BOb brought up the Jews. In the WWII era about 7 million Jews
>> were lost. During the same time period, about 8 million Germans,
>> including women and children were lost. (Eisenhower museum stats)
>
>Q: And what do the loss of Jews and loss of Germans in WWII have in common?
>A: (As the agressors) the loss of both were the fault of the Germans.

Would you agree they didn't get a free ride????
>
>> As you may have surmised from my postings, I'm an Alpha Male and don't
>> suffer fools, especially in a public forum.
>
>As an Alpha Alpha Male, I don't suffer mere Alpha Males lightly =D

Not sure what a Alpha Alpha Male is. Can't find it in any of my
litature, etc. Have never heard that experssion used to describe
anything while Alpha Male is a copmmon expression. Is it tied to the
male on male community?

Big John

>Eric
>

Big John

October 12th 03, 11:00 PM

BOb

I have jumped back to this posting prior to answering some of your and
others questions.

I mentioned "Race Card" talking about the Germans who were being
discussed. Not all Germans were Nazi's and supported the things Hitler
did. Not all Germans were 'bad guys'.

As you can read, YOU immediately jumped in and used the term "JEWS"
(not me).

Since YOU brought the JEWS into the thread, I then posted some data on
Jewish and German deaths in WWII era to show that they were not the
only group who suffered massive causalities in WWII.

Also, since I don't support what the individual in question advocates,
the passing of his 'rants' to authorities who might be able to take
appropriate action seems to me to be fully justified, since he appears
to be a danger to himself and others. As a American sworn to support
the Constitution and the Laws of the US, it is my duty, even though I
am in a Retired status and not on active duty to prevent threats of
physical harm to others to be ignored. My Retired status (and pay)
allows the government to recall me at any time to active duty if
needed.

For one who has traded hostile fire with the enemy I resent the
"Pussy's" who belittle my participation in armed combat for the US. If
you have not stood alone out there and been shot at, keep your mouth
shut about combat and those of us who guaranteed your right to mouth
off in RAH.

This thread got away OT from LL's posts and rants.

Since I don't agree with a lot being said on this thread I'm going to
'plonk' for awhile til things cool down and let people who have
nothing better to do with their time, jump in a cold shower to bring
sanity to the thread..

And the best to those who fly safe and sane.

Big John

On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 03:50:50 -0500, Barnyard BOb -- >
wrote:

>
>
>>>>Do they let people with the 'Road Rage' expressed on this thread fly
>>>>airplanes?
>>>>
>>>>It might be a good idea to send the postings on this thread to OK City
>>>>and let them require a Physco exam at the next physical.
>>>>
>>>>Big John
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>>This tactic sends chills down my spine as much now
>>>as it did when it was effectively used in Nazi Germany.
>>>
>>>
>>>Barnyard BOb -- end justifies the means?
>
>
>>BOb
>>
>>I'm supprised at you trying to play the 'race' card.
>>
>>Big John
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>RACE CARD?????
>
>Where does children brainwashed into snitching on
>family members to the Gestapo have an element of race?
>
>Further, I could be Jewish....
>just like Sammy Davis Jr, if I cared to.
>Again, nothing to do with RACE, if that is what
>you are alluding to.
>
>I'm surprised that you CONTINUE to advocate destroying
>folks by snitching them off to the government just because
>you don't have the fortitude to do the dirty deed in the light
>of day for yourself.
>
>IMO...
>For you to label Internet free speech ROAD RAGE is absurd and
>your recommendation to quell it.... misguided, if not dangerous.
>
>What you continue to suggest is NOT A GOOD IDEA.
>No way should freedom loving people support it.
>
>
>Barnyard BOb -- Voltaire is my kinda guy
>

Big John

October 12th 03, 11:07 PM

Yoram

Thank you Sir for your rational support.

If the individual in question would come to Texas and mouth off, there
are lots who would love to 'clean his clock'.

These are big 6' 6", 250 lb, individuals who crush beer cans with one
pinky.

Big John

On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 13:04:40 -0300, Yoram Leshinski
> wrote:

>BOb
>
>I think that Big John was right alluding to Road Rage in response to
>Larchless' comment. Road Rage is, in my book, if I stop my car, jump
>out and challenge you to come out too (and maybe take it farther from
>there if you come out). Saying to someone, over the internet, come out
>to meet me face to face is just the same. OK, so maybe it is not Road
>Rage but Internet Rage. :-)
>
>OTOH, referring to snitching in the same breath as the Nazis is a bit
>far fetched. If snitching is so close to the Nazis that it runs
>Goosebumps down your spine what would you say to the Snitch law that
>is in force in every State, I think, and/or federally.
>
>My comment above does not endorse or condem Latchless and his action
>or Jim Irwin.
>
>
>
>On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 03:50:50 -0500, Barnyard BOb -- >
>wrote:
>
>
>>Where does children brainwashed into snitching on
>>family members to the Gestapo have an element of race?
>>
>>Further, I could be Jewish....
>>just like Sammy Davis Jr, if I cared to.
>>Again, nothing to do with RACE, if that is what
>>you are alluding to.
>>
>>I'm surprised that you CONTINUE to advocate destroying
>>folks by snitching them off to the government just because
>>you don't have the fortitude to do the dirty deed in the light
>>of day for yourself.
>>
>>IMO...
>>For you to label Internet free speech ROAD RAGE is absurd and
>>your recommendation to quell it.... misguided, if not dangerous.
>>
>>What you continue to suggest is NOT A GOOD IDEA.
>>No way should freedom loving people support it.
>>
>>
>>Barnyard BOb -- Voltaire is my kinda guy
>>

Bernie the Bunion

October 12th 03, 11:35 PM

> Big John > wrote:

> If the individual in question would come to Texas and mouth off, there
> are lots who would love to 'clean his clock'.
>
> These are big 6' 6", 250 lb, individuals who crush beer cans with one
> pinky.

Yah Yah Yah..... And my father used to eat light bulbs.

How do I know..... Well sometimes when ma and pa went to bed
I could hear him say turn out the light honey, and I'll eat it.

Bernie the Bunion

October 12th 03, 11:40 PM

> Big John > wrote:

> This thread got away OT from LL's posts and rants.

Three days, and a dozen or so - I'm bigger than you are posts,
and you finally figured it out.

Well boys...... It's the thanksgiving weekend here up in Canada
and although I would normally be promoting tasty Alberta beef,
today it's a big tom turkey in the oven.

Now hows that for an OT post.

Larry Smith

October 12th 03, 11:56 PM

"Big John" > wrote in message
...
> BOb
>
[...]
> For one who has traded hostile fire with the enemy I resent the
> "Pussy's" who belittle my participation in armed combat for the US. If
> you have not stood alone out there and been shot at, keep your mouth
> shut about combat and those of us who guaranteed your right to mouth
> off in RAH.

Huh? You guarantee my right to post in RAH? Then want my ticket pulled
for getting saucy? Laughable.

State your last name, your rank, branch, and unit. Otherwise , stfu.

The only real threats communicated here were the ones you made against Bill
Phillips and me. And he slapped you around and stuck his finger in your
eye. If you don't like my ticket, file your complaint, fascist ratfink.

Many of us here are building airplanes and we fly them too. You are here,
not because you are capable of building an aircraft, or of flying, but to
stick out your chest and say, "Oh, looky here at me and what a hero I am for
my country. I flew P-51's and blahblahblah!" Well that, in and of itself
is OK, I guess, as long as you are who you say you are (which I am beginning
to doubt), and as long as you are not in sympathy with the very tyranny you
say you fought against. Twice now you have belied yourself as a sort of
hypocrite. You remind me of the little whispering *******s spawned by Joe
McCarthy and his ilk. If tattling and snitching are favorite activities of
yours, don't you have the balls to do them yourself?

Just remember that the laws of libel and defamation still exist as a redress
against liars.

Today, after treating the battery box against corrosion, I installed that
Gill battery (which did not come from ACS, btw, in the 172, pulled on the
master and the switch and saw that it had plenty of juice to turn the prop.
Tomorrow we'll fire up the engine, and soon we'll fly the airplane. I'm
installing an aileron bellcrank stop in the left wing, which has not been
there since the early nineties, and replacing the broken window latch on the
pilot's side. Why don't you get your worthless ass out to the airport and
get some work done too. Or start on the tail of an RV-10.

And by the way, wtf is a "Physco exam"?

Jerry Springer

October 12th 03, 11:57 PM

Big John wrote:

>
> Also, since I don't support what the individual in question advocates,
> the passing of his 'rants' to authorities who might be able to take
> appropriate action seems to me to be fully justified, since he appears
> to be a danger to himself and others. As a American sworn to support
> the Constitution and the Laws of the US, it is my duty, even though I
> am in a Retired status and not on active duty to prevent threats of
> physical harm to others to be ignored. My Retired status (and pay)
> allows the government to recall me at any time to active duty if
> needed.

The more you write the dumber you appear.

>
> For one who has traded hostile fire with the enemy I resent the
> "Pussy's" who belittle my participation in armed combat for the US. If
> you have not stood alone out there and been shot at, keep your mouth
> shut about combat and those of us who guaranteed your right to mouth
> off in RAH.
>
I guess I can call you anything I please according to your reasoning,
as i have been fired upon in Vietnam. Does that make me special? NO just
like it dose not mean anything about you either other than you are
living in the past and your whole life was lived by someone else telling
you what to do and when to do it. So don't try the service card here on me.
You might live in Texas but you would not get along well with people I
know with your "lets report them" attitude. People like you are
destroying this country.

Jerry

Model Flyer

October 13th 03, 12:10 AM

"Big John" > wrote in message
...
> Do they let people with the 'Road Rage' expressed on this thread
fly
> airplanes?
>
> It might be a good idea to send the postings on this thread to OK
City
> and let them require a Physco exam at the next physical.
>
> They won't let me fly with a pacemaker, but let people like this
fly,
> Sheeesh!
>
> Big John
>

Don't think you should worry too much, they are really quite normal
all of them, they fly under control but come to this ng to let off
steam, as you did.:-) Sheesh and there go I.
--

..
--
Cheers,
Jonathan Lowe
whatever at antispam dot net
No email address given because of spam.
Antispam trap in place

>
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:25:22 -0400, "Larry Smith"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Speaking of Morons" > wrote in
message
> m...
> >> > Jerry Springer > wrote:
> >>
> >> > Another good reason to not use ACS. This is the second time Mr
Irwin
> >> > has posted personal information to this Newsgroup. The guy is
a moron.
> >>
> >> Oh Really....blah,blah,blah
> >
> >I'll use this NG to call down a bum supplier any time I take a
notion, and
> >if you don't like it, anonymous coward, show yourself, and we'll
meet eye to
> >eye, arm to arm, and brow to brow. Then we'll see how brave you
are. In
> >the meantime you are a slimy little yellow-belly.
> >
>

Barnyard BOb --

October 13th 03, 03:17 AM

Big John > wrote:

>BOb
>
>I have jumped back to this posting prior to answering some of your and
>others questions.
>
>I mentioned "Race Card" talking about the Germans who were being
>discussed. Not all Germans were Nazi's and supported the things Hitler
>did. Not all Germans were 'bad guys'.
>
>As you can read, YOU immediately jumped in and used the term "JEWS"
>(not me).

(balanced snipped)
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

For Pete's sake --

CAUCASIAN is a RACE
ORIENTAL is a RACE
INDY 500 is a RACE

BUT...

JEWS are NOT a race.
GERMANS are NOT a race.

All you do is continue to muddy the waters.
Soooo...

Enough of this tit for tat crap.
Others can make up their own minds about you,
but... I know fascism when I trip over it.

Barnyard BOb -- over 50 years of flight

Ken Sandyeggo

October 13th 03, 06:40 AM

Barnyard BOb -- > wrote in message >...
> Big John > wrote:
>
> >BOb
> >
> >I have jumped back to this posting prior to answering some of your and
> >others questions.
> >
> >I mentioned "Race Card" talking about the Germans who were being
> >discussed. Not all Germans were Nazi's and supported the things Hitler
> >did. Not all Germans were 'bad guys'.
> >
> >As you can read, YOU immediately jumped in and used the term "JEWS"
> >(not me).
>
> (balanced snipped)
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> For Pete's sake --
>
> CAUCASIAN is a RACE
> ORIENTAL is a RACE
> INDY 500 is a RACE
>
> BUT...
>
> JEWS are NOT a race.
> GERMANS are NOT a race.

Um, Bob.....oriental now refers to a furniture or rug style or
designating the Orient. Per my American Heritage dictionary, "The
term Asian is now preferred for persons of South and East Asian
ancestry in place of the term Oriental, an older usage." I know we're
old, but we need to keep up with modern usage.

Ken J. - Sandy, egg ho

"Over 60 years of putting up with other people's ****"

>
> All you do is continue to muddy the waters.
> Soooo...
>
> Enough of this tit for tat crap.
> Others can make up their own minds about you,
> but... I know fascism when I trip over it.
>
>
> Barnyard BOb -- over 50 years of flight

Ken Sandyeggo

October 13th 03, 06:49 AM

Barnyard BOb -- > wrote in message >...
> Big John > wrote:
>
> >BOb
> >
> >I have jumped back to this posting prior to answering some of your and
> >others questions.
> >
> >I mentioned "Race Card" talking about the Germans who were being
> >discussed. Not all Germans were Nazi's and supported the things Hitler
> >did. Not all Germans were 'bad guys'.
> >
> >As you can read, YOU immediately jumped in and used the term "JEWS"
> >(not me).
>
> (balanced snipped)
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> For Pete's sake --
>
> CAUCASIAN is a RACE
> ORIENTAL is a RACE
> INDY 500 is a RACE
>
> BUT...
>
> JEWS are NOT a race.
> GERMANS are NOT a race.

Um, Bob.....oriental now refers to a furniture or rug style or
designating the Orient. Per my American Heritage dictionary, "The
term Asian is now preferred for persons of South and East Asian
ancestry in place of the term Oriental, an older usage." I know we're
old, but we need to keep up with modern usage.

Ken J. - Sandy, egg ho

"Over 60 years of putting up with other people's ****"

> All you do is continue to muddy the waters.
> Soooo...
>
> Enough of this tit for tat crap.
> Others can make up their own minds about you,
> but... I know fascism when I trip over it.
>
>
> Barnyard BOb -- over 50 years of flight

Barnyard BOb --

October 13th 03, 09:47 AM

On 12 Oct 2003 22:49:55 -0700, (Ken Sandyeggo)
wrote:

>> For Pete's sake --
>>
>> CAUCASIAN is a RACE
>> ORIENTAL is a RACE
>> INDY 500 is a RACE
>>
>> BUT...
>>
>> JEWS are NOT a race.
>> GERMANS are NOT a race.
>
>Um, Bob.....oriental now refers to a furniture or rug style or
>designating the Orient. Per my American Heritage dictionary, "The
>term Asian is now preferred for persons of South and East Asian
>ancestry in place of the term Oriental, an older usage." I know we're
>old, but we need to keep up with modern usage.
>
>Ken J. - Sandy, egg ho
>
>"Over 60 years of putting up with other people's ****"
+++++++++++++++++++++++

Thanks, Kenny.

I stand corrected....
TWICE, even. 8-]

Barnyard BOb -- Over...., never mind.

Yoram Leshinski

October 14th 03, 12:33 AM

On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 13:00:32 -0500, Barnyard BOb -- >
wrote:

>
>Yoram Leshinski wrote:
>
>>BOb
>>
>>I think that Big John was right alluding to Road Rage in response to
>>Larchless' comment. Road Rage is, in my book, if I stop my car, jump
>>out and challenge you to come out too (and maybe take it farther from
>>there if you come out). Saying to someone, over the internet, come out
>>to meet me face to face is just the same. OK, so maybe it is not Road
>>Rage but Internet Rage. :-)
>
>There are many posts.
>As an untrained psychologist or psychiatrist....
>Which posts do you specifically know to qualify as RAGE
>and worthy of being forwarded to the FAA?

On 10/10/2003 Larry Smith wrote

I'll use this NG to call down a bum supplier any time I take a notion,
and if you don't like it, anonymous coward, show yourself, and we'll
meet eye to eye, arm to arm, and brow to brow. Then we'll see how
brave you are. In the meantime you are a slimy little yellow-belly.

That's the post I was refering to.

>
>>OTOH, referring to snitching in the same breath as the Nazis is a bit
>>far fetched. If snitching is so close to the Nazis that it runs
>>Goosebumps down your spine what would you say to the Snitch law that
>>is in force in every State, I think, and/or federally.
>
>More far fetched, IMO, is Big John advising readers here to
>turn each other in to the FAA for posts he deems should
>target pilots for possible grounding.

I agree that asking people to call the FAA after someone posting
something on/in the news groups is plain and simple dumm. I remember
somebody writing in the past that he will tell the FAA that people
flew at the flyin in Pinkneeville (SP) and as evidance all he had was
writings posted here. I was unhappy about it then as I was now when
Big John suggested it.

>
>What "Snitch law(s)"?
>Again, please be specific and where it
>applies to speech of RAH posters.

Well, I'm not a lawyer and I don't know the specifics but I was
refering to the law that protect snitchers from getting fired and the
other one (or was it the same law?) that give snitchers some money
reward (10%?) if they report some money waste or somthing like it.
Again I'm no lawyer, so please refer to one about the exact details.
<g>

>
>>My comment above does not endorse or condem Latchless and his action
>>or Jim Irwin.
>
>So, unlike Big John, you would not have certain pilots here
>be snitched on to the government and be subjected to having
>their flying privileges revoked if Big Brother took a mind to?
>

I read the above three times and I still didn't get your meaning. Do
you think we should snitch or not? Maybe I'm, just as Latchless said,
not very bright. <g>

>Hmmmm....
>Still, it may be a "good idea" to keep an eye on you, too. <g>
>

Join the club. <g>

>
>Barnyard BOb ---

Yoram (a bit dim) Leshinski

Barnyard BOb --

October 14th 03, 05:04 AM

Yoram Leshinski wrote:

[heavily edited]

>I agree that asking people to call the FAA after someone posting
>something on/in the news groups is plain and simple dumm.

>Yoram (a bit dim) Leshinski
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

AND what about..... "dumm" ? <g>

http://www.thedumb.com/

Barnyard BOb --

Larry Smith

October 14th 03, 01:26 PM

"Yoram Leshinski" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 13:00:32 -0500, Barnyard BOb -- >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Yoram Leshinski wrote:
> >
> >>BOb
> >>
> >>I think that Big John was right alluding to Road Rage in response to
> >>Larchless' comment. Road Rage is, in my book, if I stop my car, jump
> >>out and challenge you to come out too (and maybe take it farther from
> >>there if you come out). Saying to someone, over the internet, come out
> >>to meet me face to face is just the same. OK, so maybe it is not Road
> >>Rage but Internet Rage. :-)
> >
> >There are many posts.
> >As an untrained psychologist or psychiatrist....
> >Which posts do you specifically know to qualify as RAGE
> >and worthy of being forwarded to the FAA?
>
> On 10/10/2003 Larry Smith wrote
>
>
> I'll use this NG to call down a bum supplier any time I take a notion,
> and if you don't like it, anonymous coward, show yourself, and we'll
> meet eye to eye, arm to arm, and brow to brow. Then we'll see how
> brave you are. In the meantime you are a slimy little yellow-belly.
>
> That's the post I was refering to.

Did you fear the foggy, wraithlike pixie I addressed with this hyperbole
might show himself for RL battle? You must live solitary. Know thyself.
Then thou shalt know people too.

Well, Yurin, I gotta admit I never knew the post that started all this would
lead to such a raucous thread. It even brought out the screamer --- that
foaming defendant from San Diego affectionately known as the eggsucker.

Meanwhile we cranked the Cessna yesterday with her proud new battery and her
newly majored engine, and she began to purr on the third blade. I stayed
around the airport last night to watch my young friend land in his
just-purchased Taylorcraft and wiggle the rudder to keep her tracking
straight down the runway. Ain't life grand! Hang out at the airport some.
That will acquaint you with people, Yurin.
>

Ken Sandyeggo

October 15th 03, 12:38 AM

"Larry Smith" > wrote in message >...
> "Yoram Leshinski" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 13:00:32 -0500, Barnyard BOb -- >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >Yoram Leshinski wrote:
> > >
> > >>BOb
> > >>
> > >>I think that Big John was right alluding to Road Rage in response to
> > >>Larchless' comment. Road Rage is, in my book, if I stop my car, jump
> > >>out and challenge you to come out too (and maybe take it farther from
> > >>there if you come out). Saying to someone, over the internet, come out
> > >>to meet me face to face is just the same. OK, so maybe it is not Road
> > >>Rage but Internet Rage. :-)
> > >
> > >There are many posts.
> > >As an untrained psychologist or psychiatrist....
> > >Which posts do you specifically know to qualify as RAGE
> > >and worthy of being forwarded to the FAA?
> >
> > On 10/10/2003 Larry Smith wrote
> >
> >
> > I'll use this NG to call down a bum supplier any time I take a notion,
> > and if you don't like it, anonymous coward, show yourself, and we'll
> > meet eye to eye, arm to arm, and brow to brow. Then we'll see how
> > brave you are. In the meantime you are a slimy little yellow-belly.
> >
> > That's the post I was refering to.
>
> Did you fear the foggy, wraithlike pixie I addressed with this hyperbole
> might show himself for RL battle? You must live solitary. Know thyself.
> Then thou shalt know people too.
>
> Well, Yurin, I gotta admit I never knew the post that started all this would
> lead to such a raucous thread. It even brought out the screamer --- that
> foaming defendant from San Diego affectionately known as the eggsucker.
>
> Meanwhile we cranked the Cessna yesterday with her proud new battery and her
> newly majored engine, and she began to purr on the third blade. I stayed
> around the airport last night to watch my young friend land in his
> just-purchased Taylorcraft and wiggle the rudder to keep her tracking
> straight down the runway. Ain't life grand! Hang out at the airport some.
> That will acquaint you with people, Yurin.

C'mon, mutton-head....update us on your project. What stage is it in?
How soon is it going to fly? Is it true that you finally settled on
duct tape instead of real latches and your tires dry-rotted before you
got to use them? Why do you ignore questions that may embarrass you?
Don't you have the balls to give us an honest report? Or is all you
know how to do is post stupid **** like you did when you initiated
this thread? "Boo-hoo. Jim wouldn't send me a battery with my bogus
card." Even you would have to go back to it and admit how lame and
ignorant it was. By the way, did you mean "solitarily," you
illiterate ass-wipe?

KJSDCAUSA

Rich Ahrens

October 15th 03, 05:25 AM

Big John wrote:
> Yoram
>
> Thank you Sir for your rational support.
>
> If the individual in question would come to Texas and mouth off, there
> are lots who would love to 'clean his clock'.
>
> These are big 6' 6", 250 lb, individuals who crush beer cans with one
> pinky.

And litter the side of the road with them, no doubt...

Big John

October 15th 03, 04:16 PM

Rich

You must be reading and believing the "Liberal" press?

What they do is throw them into the back of their pickup.

If you haven't heard, one of the Texas rules of the road is "Don't
MESS with Texas". Instead of setting up Police road traps for
speeding, we just catch the transits littering our highways and stick
it to them.

Welcome to the real world young man.

Big 'Tex' John

N.B. For some reason my "Plonking" isn't working 100% of the time.
Seems to keep bringing this thread back up. Need to go back and reset
the parameters I guess.

Have a nice day.

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:25:20 -0500, Rich Ahrens > wrote:

>Big John wrote:
>> Yoram
>>
>> Thank you Sir for your rational support.
>>
>> If the individual in question would come to Texas and mouth off, there
>> are lots who would love to 'clean his clock'.
>>
>> These are big 6' 6", 250 lb, individuals who crush beer cans with one
>> pinky.
>
>And litter the side of the road with them, no doubt...

Bernie the Bunion

October 16th 03, 07:15 AM

> Big John > wrote:

> Welcome to the real world young man.
>
> Big 'Tex' John

YessSirree Bubba...... Big 'Tex' John the baddest
Texan this side of the Pecos.

But so dumb he can't figure out how to use the
killfilter on a simple peace of software.

I quote......

> N.B. For some reason my "Plonking" isn't working 100% of the time.

Rich Ahrens

October 18th 03, 08:02 PM

Big John wrote:
> Rich
>
> You must be reading and believing the "Liberal" press?

Nope. I'm reading official state sources. What right-wing comic books are
you reading, though?

> What they do is throw them into the back of their pickup.

From the official site http://www.dontmesswithtexas.org/facts.php:

"More than half of roadside litter in Texas flies out of the back of pickup
trucks. Throwing lightweight objects in your truck bed is the same as
throwing them out the window."

> If you haven't heard, one of the Texas rules of the road is "Don't
> MESS with Texas". Instead of setting up Police road traps for
> speeding, we just catch the transits littering our highways and stick
> it to them.

Yeah, right. That explains why the Texas Department of Transportation
spends more than $30 million a year in state tax dollars picking up
roadside litter alone. Gotta be all those transients, I'm sure...

From a TxDOT press release dated July 22, 2003:

"The first-ever Don't Mess with Texas Road Tour is taking its truck full of
litter-related games and prizes through Laredo tomorrow to inform the
state's worst litterers - Texans ages 16-24 - about the consequences of
littering."

Damned transients...

> Welcome to the real world young man.
>
> Big 'Tex' John

Can't be the real world if *you're* welcoming me to it. Your grasp of
reality seems tenuous at best...

Tarver Engineering

October 18th 03, 08:55 PM

"Rich Ahrens" > wrote in message
isi.com...
<snip>
> "More than half of roadside litter in Texas flies out of the back of
pickup
> trucks. Throwing lightweight objects in your truck bed is the same as
> throwing them out the window."

Finally a thread on trash, whenre Aherns is the expert. (ie janitor)

running with scissors

October 19th 03, 09:20 PM

"Tarver Engineering" > wrote in message >...
> "Rich Ahrens" > wrote in message
> isi.com...
> <snip>
> > "More than half of roadside litter in Texas flies out of the back of
> pickup
> > trucks. Throwing lightweight objects in your truck bed is the same as
> > throwing them out the window."
>
> Finally a thread on trash, whenre Aherns is the expert. (ie janitor)

i am sure you and deb will be able to provide input when the trash
thread develops to that of the white variety.

skygodtj

October 20th 03, 05:34 PM

JIM Irwin??? I thot it said Steve Irwin, the crocodile hunter!!!!

teege

Rich Ahrens wrote:
>
> Big John wrote:
> > Rich
> >
> > You must be reading and believing the "Liberal" press?
>
> Nope. I'm reading official state sources. What right-wing comic books are
> you reading, though?
>
> > What they do is throw them into the back of their pickup.
>
> From the official site http://www.dontmesswithtexas.org/facts.php:
>
> "More than half of roadside litter in Texas flies out of the back of pickup
> trucks. Throwing lightweight objects in your truck bed is the same as
> throwing them out the window."
>
> > If you haven't heard, one of the Texas rules of the road is "Don't
> > MESS with Texas". Instead of setting up Police road traps for
> > speeding, we just catch the transits littering our highways and stick
> > it to them.
>
> Yeah, right. That explains why the Texas Department of Transportation
> spends more than $30 million a year in state tax dollars picking up
> roadside litter alone. Gotta be all those transients, I'm sure...
>
> From a TxDOT press release dated July 22, 2003:
>
> "The first-ever Don't Mess with Texas Road Tour is taking its truck full of
> litter-related games and prizes through Laredo tomorrow to inform the
> state's worst litterers - Texans ages 16-24 - about the consequences of
> littering."
>
> Damned transients...
>
> > Welcome to the real world young man.
> >
> > Big 'Tex' John
>
> Can't be the real world if *you're* welcoming me to it. Your grasp of
> reality seems tenuous at best...

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