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February 13th 09, 10:07 PM
The 2009 proposed Sports Class Handicaps are now posted on the SSA
Website - http://www.ssa.org/myhome.asp?mbr=6789819598&show=blog&id=1614.
Please submit comments prior to March 1, directly to me (this site
will not be monitored) at (include a
telephone number). If you are unable to access the SSA site, email me
and I will forward the file.

David Stevenson

February 14th 09, 04:36 AM
On Feb 13, 5:07*pm, wrote:
> The 2009 proposed Sports Class Handicaps are now posted on the SSA
> Website *- *http://www.ssa.org/myhome.asp?mbr=6789819598&show=blog&id=1614.
> Please submit comments prior to March 1, directly to me (this site
> will not be monitored) at (include a
> telephone number). *If you are unable to access the SSA site, email me
> and I will forward the file.
>
> David Stevenson

David,
the link does not go anywhere. Can you please check and repost?
Thanks,
Uli

Frank Whiteley
February 14th 09, 04:54 AM
On Feb 13, 9:36*pm, wrote:
> On Feb 13, 5:07*pm, wrote:
>
> > The 2009 proposed Sports Class Handicaps are now posted on the SSA
> > Website *- *http://www.ssa.org/myhome.asp?mbr=6789819598&show=blog&id=1614.
> > Please submit comments prior to March 1, directly to me (this site
> > will not be monitored) at (include a
> > telephone number). *If you are unable to access the SSA site, email me
> > and I will forward the file.
>
> > David Stevenson
>
> David,
> the link does not go anywhere. Can you please check and repost?
> Thanks,
> Uli

The link works. Click on the word 'here' once on the page.

Frank

Frank Whiteley
February 14th 09, 05:04 AM
On Feb 13, 9:54*pm, Frank Whiteley > wrote:
> On Feb 13, 9:36*pm, wrote:
>
> > On Feb 13, 5:07*pm, wrote:
>
> > > The 2009 proposed Sports Class Handicaps are now posted on the SSA
> > > Website *- *http://www.ssa.org/myhome.asp?mbr=6789819598&show=blog&id=1614.
> > > Please submit comments prior to March 1, directly to me (this site
> > > will not be monitored) at (include a
> > > telephone number). *If you are unable to access the SSA site, email me
> > > and I will forward the file.
>
> > > David Stevenson
>
> > David,
> > the link does not go anywhere. Can you please check and repost?
> > Thanks,
> > Uli
>
> The link works. *Click on the word 'here' once on the page.
>
> Frank

http://www.ssa.org/myhome.asp?mbr=6242029070

noel.wade
February 14th 09, 09:03 AM
Argh!

Experienced DG-300 pilots, hear me out: Stop flying so well! I get
ready to enter my first contest this year, and what happens? They bump
the DG-300 up to the same handicap as the LS-4! :-P

When I bought my '300, everyone swore that the DG's "dont fly well in
races like the LS ships do" - or that the DG-300 "is a touring glider
while the LS-4 is the thoroughbred"... I was _counting_ on a softer
handicap to make my rookie contest debut look better; and now its been
ruined! Since I believe the folks making the handicaps base their
decisions on real-world data, the blame falls squarely on you DG-300
who did well the last couple of years... darn you! ;-)

Take care,

--Noel

Frank Whiteley
February 14th 09, 03:27 PM
On Feb 14, 2:03*am, "noel.wade" > wrote:
> Argh!
>
> Experienced DG-300 pilots, hear me out: *Stop flying so well! *I get
> ready to enter my first contest this year, and what happens? They bump
> the DG-300 up to the same handicap as the LS-4! :-P
>
> When I bought my '300, everyone swore that the DG's "dont fly well in
> races like the LS ships do" - or that the DG-300 "is a touring glider
> while the LS-4 is the thoroughbred"... *I was _counting_ on a softer
> handicap to make my rookie contest debut look better; and now its been
> ruined! *Since I believe the folks making the handicaps base their
> decisions on real-world data, the blame falls squarely on you DG-300
> who did well the last couple of years... darn you! ;-)
>
> Take care,
>
> --Noel

Germany and the UK both handicap the LS4 and DG300 the same.

Frank Whiteley

kirk.stant
February 14th 09, 07:20 PM
On Feb 14, 3:03*am, "noel.wade" > wrote:
> Argh!
>
> Experienced DG-300 pilots, hear me out: *Stop flying so well! *I get
> ready to enter my first contest this year, and what happens? They bump
> the DG-300 up to the same handicap as the LS-4! :-P
>
> When I bought my '300, everyone swore that the DG's "dont fly well in
> races like the LS ships do" - or that the DG-300 "is a touring glider
> while the LS-4 is the thoroughbred"... *I was _counting_ on a softer
> handicap to make my rookie contest debut look better; and now its been
> ruined! *Since I believe the folks making the handicaps base their
> decisions on real-world data, the blame falls squarely on you DG-300
> who did well the last couple of years... darn you! ;-)
>
> Take care,
>
> --Noel

Noel,

Just go to the contest and fly - don't even worry about the handicap!
Seriously, the differences are so small that a couple of extra turns
at the top of a thermal make more difference! It's all about the
pilot, not the glider.

Kirk
66

noel.wade
February 14th 09, 08:01 PM
Apparently I need to plant my tongue in my cheek even _more_ firmly
next time... I thought y'all would notice that I already had it
skewed that direction; but I appreciate the well-intentioned replies
nonetheless. ;-)

--Noel

Udo Rumpf[_2_]
February 14th 09, 08:15 PM
At 19:20 14 February 2009, kirk.stant wrote:
>On Feb 14, 3:03=A0am, "noel.wade" wrote:
>> Argh!
>>
>> Experienced DG-300 pilots, hear me out: =A0Stop flying so well! =A0I
get
>> ready to enter my first contest this year, and what happens? They bump
>> the DG-300 up to the same handicap as the LS-4! :-P
>>
>> When I bought my '300, everyone swore that the DG's "dont fly well
in
>> races like the LS ships do" - or that the DG-300 "is a touring
glider
>> while the LS-4 is the thoroughbred"... =A0I was _counting_ on a
softer
>> handicap to make my rookie contest debut look better; and now its been
>> ruined! =A0Since I believe the folks making the handicaps base their
>> decisions on real-world data, the blame falls squarely on you DG-300
>> who did well the last couple of years... darn you! ;-)
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> --Noel
>
>Noel,
>
>Just go to the contest and fly - don't even worry about the handicap!
>Seriously, the differences are so small that a couple of extra turns
>at the top of a thermal make more difference! It's all about the
>pilot, not the glider.
>
>Kirk
>66

Kirk,
Still, I do not understand why they have not put a list together
with a relative narrow range of handicaped gliders, now that they have the
first offical Club Class contest.
Udo

kirk.stant
February 16th 09, 07:48 PM
On Feb 14, 2:01*pm, "noel.wade" > wrote:
> Apparently I need to plant my tongue in my cheek even _more_ firmly
> next time... *I thought y'all would notice that I already had it
> skewed that direction; but I appreciate the well-intentioned replies
> nonetheless. ;-)
>
> --Noel

Just trying to be helpful ;^}

What contest are you going to?

Cheers,
Kirk
66

kirk.stant
February 16th 09, 07:52 PM
> Kirk,
> Still, I do not understand why they have not put a list together
> with a relative narrow range of handicaped gliders, now that they have the
> first offical Club Class contest.
> Udo

Udo, theres a link to the Club class list at the Cordele 15M contest
site:

http://www.ssa.org/UsTeam/ustc%20pdf/ClubClassList2008%20(2).pdf

It's a bit awkward, and you have to look up the actual handicaps.

Kirk
66

noel.wade
February 17th 09, 01:40 AM
On Feb 16, 11:48*am, "kirk.stant" > wrote:

> Just trying to be helpful ;^}
>
> What contest are you going to?

I'll be going to the R12 Regionals in Warner Springs, end of April.

And sometime between now and then I have to squeeze in my Silver
Badge! :-P Got so caught up in flying 300k - 500k flights in Ephrata
last summer, I totally failed to make any of them official badge
attempts. D'oh!

--Noel

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