Darryl Ramm
February 22nd 09, 02:42 AM
On Feb 21, 6:40*pm, Darryl Ramm > wrote:
> On Feb 21, 5:35*pm, 5Z > wrote:
>
> > Has anyone tried the Navigon with SeeYou mobile? *How does it compare
> > in performance? *The price looks competitive with the 310.
>
> > -Tom
>
> As has been pointed out on the Naviter forums the Navigon has 480 X
> 272 display, the iPAQ 310 is 800 x 480 and although the displays are
> small the iPAQ 310 display looks *gorgeous*. The iPAQ 310 is the PNA
> to have right now.
>
> --
>
> I have two iPAQ 4700 PDAs and an iPAQ 310. Indoors the 310 blows away
> the 4700. The 310 uses LED backlight technology and the 4700 uses cold
> cathode. The color temperature is higher on the LEDs and the cold
> cathodes look yellowish compared to the nice white backlight on the
> 310.
>
> Outdoors in sunlight (but not directly on the screen) the iPAQ 310 is
> easier to see than either of my iPAQ 4700's. A friend who has an iPAQ
> 310, and iPAQ 211 and an iPAQ 4700 agrees the 310 is a bit more
> legible than the 4700 outdoors but says the iPAQ 211 actually just
> beats the 310.
>
> With any of these devices with SeeYou Mobile I turn off terrain
> mapping, increase default font sizes, increase line widths on maps
> etc. to get a display that for me is most readable. Right now the iPAQ
> 310 takes more messing around to get this right because some of the UI
> elements are a little small on such a high resolution screen - Naviter
> is working on tweeking many of these things. The current SeeYou Mobile
> "release candidate" was intend to gather UI feedback. They've done an
> impressive job in getting this running across so many devices.
>
> No common currently available PDA or PNA devices (with current
> transreflective displays) are what I'd call visible in direct
> sunlight. However with careful mounting. At a few hundred dollars the
> iPAQ 310 is essentially disposable, and I'll be happy to junk it next
> year if something better comes along. But I'd not be holding my breath
> for OLED or other technology that quickly.
>
> For serious installs you will need a K-6 Bluetooth adapter and it is
> going to cost about the same as an iPAQ 310 on E-Bay etc. but should
> outlast multiple PDAs/PNAs.
>
> If you want to run say a web browser or other utilities on the PNA and
> are not a heavy duty geek/hacker give up now and get a PDA. Many PNAs
> have only a partial Windows CE install. Many (including the iPAQ 310)
> don't have a command shell, some don't have a Windows CE explorer (the
> iPAQ 310 does), most don't have a web browser, etc. etc. Naviter's
> approach is these are closed boxes that you plug a SD card into and
> you get SeeYou Mobile and ConnectMe and that is it. Which will suit
> many pilots fine.
>
> Darryl
Grr I meant to say "Outdoors in sunlight (but not directly on the
screen) the iPAQ 310 is *slightly* easier to see than either of my
iPAQ 4700's."
Darryl
> On Feb 21, 5:35*pm, 5Z > wrote:
>
> > Has anyone tried the Navigon with SeeYou mobile? *How does it compare
> > in performance? *The price looks competitive with the 310.
>
> > -Tom
>
> As has been pointed out on the Naviter forums the Navigon has 480 X
> 272 display, the iPAQ 310 is 800 x 480 and although the displays are
> small the iPAQ 310 display looks *gorgeous*. The iPAQ 310 is the PNA
> to have right now.
>
> --
>
> I have two iPAQ 4700 PDAs and an iPAQ 310. Indoors the 310 blows away
> the 4700. The 310 uses LED backlight technology and the 4700 uses cold
> cathode. The color temperature is higher on the LEDs and the cold
> cathodes look yellowish compared to the nice white backlight on the
> 310.
>
> Outdoors in sunlight (but not directly on the screen) the iPAQ 310 is
> easier to see than either of my iPAQ 4700's. A friend who has an iPAQ
> 310, and iPAQ 211 and an iPAQ 4700 agrees the 310 is a bit more
> legible than the 4700 outdoors but says the iPAQ 211 actually just
> beats the 310.
>
> With any of these devices with SeeYou Mobile I turn off terrain
> mapping, increase default font sizes, increase line widths on maps
> etc. to get a display that for me is most readable. Right now the iPAQ
> 310 takes more messing around to get this right because some of the UI
> elements are a little small on such a high resolution screen - Naviter
> is working on tweeking many of these things. The current SeeYou Mobile
> "release candidate" was intend to gather UI feedback. They've done an
> impressive job in getting this running across so many devices.
>
> No common currently available PDA or PNA devices (with current
> transreflective displays) are what I'd call visible in direct
> sunlight. However with careful mounting. At a few hundred dollars the
> iPAQ 310 is essentially disposable, and I'll be happy to junk it next
> year if something better comes along. But I'd not be holding my breath
> for OLED or other technology that quickly.
>
> For serious installs you will need a K-6 Bluetooth adapter and it is
> going to cost about the same as an iPAQ 310 on E-Bay etc. but should
> outlast multiple PDAs/PNAs.
>
> If you want to run say a web browser or other utilities on the PNA and
> are not a heavy duty geek/hacker give up now and get a PDA. Many PNAs
> have only a partial Windows CE install. Many (including the iPAQ 310)
> don't have a command shell, some don't have a Windows CE explorer (the
> iPAQ 310 does), most don't have a web browser, etc. etc. Naviter's
> approach is these are closed boxes that you plug a SD card into and
> you get SeeYou Mobile and ConnectMe and that is it. Which will suit
> many pilots fine.
>
> Darryl
Grr I meant to say "Outdoors in sunlight (but not directly on the
screen) the iPAQ 310 is *slightly* easier to see than either of my
iPAQ 4700's."
Darryl