Re: *********A DEFENCE FOR MXMORAN***********

[Morgans[_2_]]

"BeechSundowner" > wrote

First I have seen lbby. Back to lurk mode :-)))))

Perhaps a sock,,,,, for ??????????? you-know-who????????

You couldn't convince me otherwise, without a very solid proof.

It is the same 'ole-same-'ole with a different name, it seems to me.

;-))
--
Jim in NC

[ManhattanMan]

Morgans wrote:
>
> Perhaps a sock,,,,, for ??????????? you-know-who????????
>


Negative. I've known Ibby for years in another group, as well as dipstick m
x...

I even agreed with dipstick once. Hey, one out of a thousand ain't bad!!

[ManhattanMan]

Morgans wrote:
>
> Perhaps a sock,,,,, for ??????????? you-know-who????????
>


Negative. I've known Ibby for years in another group, as well as dipstick m
x...

I even agreed with dipstick once. Hey, one out of a thousand ain't bad!!

[ManhattanMan]

Morgans wrote:
>
> Perhaps a sock,,,,, for ??????????? you-know-who????????
>

Negative. I've know Ibby for years in another group, as well as whatsisname
dip****, and he's a valid square shooter. Just has a strong opinion on the
subject. Hell, I even agreed with dip**** once - one out of a thousand
ain't bad....

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"ManhattanMan" > wrote in message
...
> Morgans wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps a sock,,,,, for ??????????? you-know-who????????
>>
>
> Negative. I've know Ibby for years in another group, as well as
> whatsisname dip****, and he's a valid square shooter. Just has a strong
> opinion on the subject. Hell, I even agreed with dip**** once - one out
> of a thousand ain't bad....
>

What other groups? The sim/game groups?

[Morgans[_2_]]

"ManhattanMan" > wrote in message
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> Morgans wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps a sock,,,,, for ??????????? you-know-who????????
>>
>
> Negative. I've know Ibby for years in another group, as well as
> whatsisname dip****, and he's a valid square shooter. Just has a strong
> opinion on the subject. Hell, I even agreed with dip**** once - one out
> of a thousand ain't bad....

OK, I guess.

Still, the message is.....
--
Jim in NC

[Ibby]

> Perhaps a sock,,,,, for ??????????? * you-know-who????????
>
> You couldn't convince me otherwise, without a very solid proof.
>
> It is the same 'ole-same-'ole with a different name, it seems to me.
>
> ;-))
> --
> Jim in NC

Morgan

First time on here but some ppl here no my name like ManhattanMan
(Don) for one and Beech45Whiskey (Peter).
I'm not French (thank God, I'm Irish). As I've just said to Jim I'm
trying to add some constructive defense to FSX. yes it's perhaps not
perfect but it does have its benefits and with the correct quality
payware (additional purchased software) it is highly detailed and has
very well modelled and detailed flightdecks with fully operational
systems etc.

Ibby

[Ibby]

> *OK, I guess.
>
> Still, the message is.....
> --
> Jim in NC

Yes Jim, the Sim/Game group just like this is the pilot group ;-)
There is still a link between us and our love for aviation and I would
take more lessons when the finances are available. I know a lot of
ppl of the other group who have gone from using the sim to real PPL
training and experienced the same as I have done that you pick up the
real thing so much faster. I appreciate you still require a minimum
of 45hrs for your PPL but why waste that time perhaps going over and
over things which you could easily practice on the pc (yes I know it's
not quite the same but it does help)

Ibby

[Ibby]

> Negative. *I've know Ibby for years in another group, as well as whatsisname
> dip****, and he's a valid square shooter. *Just has a strong opinion on the
> subject. *Hell, I even agreed with dip**** once - one out of a thousand
> ain't bad....

Cheers Don ;-)
An 'ally' yippee

Ibby

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Ibby" > wrote in message
...
> OK, I guess.
>
> Still, the message is.....
> --
> Jim in NC

Yes Jim, the Sim/Game group just like this is the pilot group ;-)
There is still a link between us and our love for aviation and I would
take more lessons when the finances are available. I know a lot of
ppl of the other group who have gone from using the sim to real PPL
training and experienced the same as I have done that you pick up the
real thing so much faster. I appreciate you still require a minimum
of 45hrs for your PPL but why waste that time perhaps going over and
over things which you could easily practice on the pc (yes I know it's
not quite the same but it does help)

Ibby

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Why waste time on a piloting group, trying to justify and glorify your sims.
Go to a sim group.

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Ibby" > wrote in message
...
> Perhaps a sock,,,,, for ??????????? you-know-who????????
>
> You couldn't convince me otherwise, without a very solid proof.
>
> It is the same 'ole-same-'ole with a different name, it seems to me.
>
> ;-))
> --
> Jim in NC

Morgan

First time on here but some ppl here no my name like ManhattanMan
(Don) for one and Beech45Whiskey (Peter).
I'm not French (thank God, I'm Irish). As I've just said to Jim I'm
trying to add some constructive defense to FSX. yes it's perhaps not
perfect but it does have its benefits and with the correct quality
payware (additional purchased software) it is highly detailed and has
very well modelled and detailed flightdecks with fully operational
systems etc.

Ibby

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If you think a computer literate group of pilots needs you take on the value
of MSFS, then you are as full of yourself (and ****) as Mx.

I can assure you, we can function quite well without your and Mixie's
chatter. If we want to discuss such, which obviously we don't, we prefer to
do it with experience pilots. We don't need some wanna be offering
speculation disguised as fact, and then arguing like a 10 year old when he
finds he is wrong.

[Morgans[_2_]]

"ManhattanMan" > wrote

> Negative. I've known Ibby for years in another group, as well as dipstick
> m x...
>
> I even agreed with dipstick once. Hey, one out of a thousand ain't bad!!

Have you ever met him, face to face?

If not, I'm not totally convinced.
--
Jim in NC

[Ibby]

> Why waste time on a piloting group, trying to justify and glorify your sims.
> Go to a sim group.

I AM from a sim group http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim/topics
which is FULL of qualified pilots IRL including a retired Swiss Airbus
A320 pilot. The group has been around for over 10 years.

I for one have NEVER said the sim is perfect and will replace real
life flying and it's skills. The sim however (with the correct addon
aircraft) and hardware help simmers understand how the real aircraft
operates.

Ibby

[Ibby]

>
> If you think a computer literate group of pilots needs you take on the value
> of MSFS, then you are as full of yourself (and ****) as Mx.
>

So are you saying this
http://www.carenado.com/pages/C172FSX/1024X768/3.jpg
DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THIS
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Cessna_172_Instrument_Panel_(left)_(Photo_by_Theo, _2006).jpg

or
http://www.precisionmanuals.com/priv/img/prod/fsx/744x/album/pages/744_5_jpg.htm
looks like this
http://www.hoppie.nl/pic/747jh008.jpg

or

http://www.precisionmanuals.com/priv/img/prod/fsx/744x/album/pages/744_3_jpg.htm
look like this
http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices/gallery/images/commercial/747400-04.jpg
or
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/KLM_Boeing_747-400_flight_deck.jpg

My 'contribution' to this group was in defense to how well some
software vendors affiliated with MSFS can model both the
photorealistic look and systems available on flightdecks. But NONE of
that matters on here. I'm not full of ****, I KNOW it takes skill to
pilot an aircraft especially if flown by HAND but I also do know that
coupled with an autopilot certain portions of flying have been made
easier via the advancement of technology on most aircraft and
commercial airlines make full use of this technology, otherwise what
is the point of automation?

Ibby

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Ibby" > wrote in message
...
>
>> Why waste time on a piloting group, trying to justify and glorify your
>> sims.
>> Go to a sim group.
>
> I AM from a sim group
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim/topics
> which is FULL of qualified pilots IRL including a retired Swiss Airbus
> A320 pilot. The group has been around for over 10 years.
>
> I for one have NEVER said the sim is perfect and will replace real
> life flying and it's skills. The sim however (with the correct addon
> aircraft) and hardware help simmers understand how the real aircraft
> operates.
>
> Ibby

Then go back where you came from, and take your brother MX with you.

This is NOT a sim or game group, and from all the conversations, your topics
are clearly not appreciated here.

You are fast becoming just another MX.

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Ibby" > wrote in message
...
> >
>> If you think a computer literate group of pilots needs you take on the
>> value
>> of MSFS, then you are as full of yourself (and ****) as Mx.
>>
>
> So are you saying this
> http://www.carenado.com/pages/C172FSX/1024X768/3.jpg
> DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THIS
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Cessna_172_Instrument_Panel_(left)_(Photo_by_Theo, _2006).jpg
>
> or
> http://www.precisionmanuals.com/priv/img/prod/fsx/744x/album/pages/744_5_jpg.htm
> looks like this
> http://www.hoppie.nl/pic/747jh008.jpg
>
> or
>
> http://www.precisionmanuals.com/priv/img/prod/fsx/744x/album/pages/744_3_jpg.htm
> look like this
> http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices/gallery/images/commercial/747400-04.jpg
> or
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/KLM_Boeing_747-400_flight_deck.jpg
>
> My 'contribution' to this group was in defense to how well some
> software vendors affiliated with MSFS can model both the
> photorealistic look and systems available on flightdecks. But NONE of
> that matters on here. I'm not full of ****, I KNOW it takes skill to
> pilot an aircraft especially if flown by HAND but I also do know that
> coupled with an autopilot certain portions of flying have been made
> easier via the advancement of technology on most aircraft and
> commercial airlines make full use of this technology, otherwise what
> is the point of automation?
>
> Ibby



No dumb ass, I'm saying:
>> If you think a computer literate group of pilots needs you take on the
>> value
>> of MSFS, then you are as full of yourself (and ****) as Mx.
Can you not read.

[Ibby]

> This is NOT a sim or game group, and from all the conversations, your topics
> are clearly not appreciated here.

May I clearly remind you this TOPIC was STARTED by a 'John Goodwin',
not by either MX or myself. So blame him!

Ibby

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Ibby" > wrote in message news:dbfe75ec-cfea-4251-acd5-

> May I clearly remind you this TOPIC was STARTED by a 'John Goodwin',
> not by either MX or myself. So blame him!
>
> Ibby

Why, he clearly wasn't asking the opinion of inexperienced assholes like you
and your brother MX.