Anthony is not a pilot

[Viperdoc[_6_]]

Folks- how about a reality check here: it seems like a lot of people end up
arguing with Anthony (mxsmanic) regarding aspects of flying about which he
is actually clueless. The screen names look different, but the arguments
from Anthony are boringly the same.

He is not a pilot and never has been. He has never worked a radio or spoken
with ATC. He has never piloted anything other than his desk, so why engage
him in useless discourse in which he takes statements out of context or
tries to give himself legitimacy in his otherwise miserable life.

Why validate his socially empty delusional existence? The only reasonable
response is to point out that he is not a pilot and has never flown, so
anything he says is meaningless.

[shywon]

Why start a thread like this? Does it really matter if he is or is not
a pilot? Would most sensible people take advice from a person because
they say they are a pilot?
The reality check for me is the type of flaming your starting here is
part of what is ruining this group. I have flown a few hrs, does that
make me a pilot? I don't think so, but
like Anthony I have an interest in aviation. I'm a member of AOPA, I
read and watch anything I can about aviation and yes, I use a flight
sim, several in fact.

So why not just let threads like this die?
shywon
http://shywonpa.ash.com/index.html

On Mar 7, 7:57*am, "Viperdoc" > wrote:
> Folks- how about a reality check here: it seems like a lot of people end up
> arguing with Anthony (mxsmanic) regarding aspects of flying about which he
> is actually clueless. The screen names look different, but the arguments
> from Anthony are boringly the same.
>
> He is not a pilot and never has been. He has never worked a radio or spoken
> with ATC. He has never piloted anything other than his desk, so why engage
> him in useless discourse in which he takes statements out of context or
> tries to give himself *legitimacy in his otherwise miserable life.
>
> Why validate his socially empty delusional existence? The only reasonable
> response is to point out that he is not a pilot and has never flown, so
> anything he says is meaningless.

[Maxwell[_2_]]

Because Anthony serves no greater purpose here than a common troll, and a
magnet for dweebs.

We get sick of answering the same questions over and over and over.

Just like your post.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"shywon" > wrote in message
...
Why start a thread like this? Does it really matter if he is or is not
a pilot? Would most sensible people take advice from a person because
they say they are a pilot?
The reality check for me is the type of flaming your starting here is
part of what is ruining this group. I have flown a few hrs, does that
make me a pilot? I don't think so, but
like Anthony I have an interest in aviation. I'm a member of AOPA, I
read and watch anything I can about aviation and yes, I use a flight
sim, several in fact.

So why not just let threads like this die?
shywon

[shywon]

Your even worth the time it took to type this

On Mar 7, 12:49*pm, "Maxwell" <#$$9#@%%%.^^^> wrote:
> Because Anthony serves no greater purpose here than a common troll, and a
> magnet for dweebs.
>
> We get sick of answering the same questions over and over and over.
>
> Just like your post.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "shywon" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> Why start a thread like this? Does it really matter if he is or is not
> a pilot? Would most sensible people take advice from a person because
> they say they are a pilot?
> The reality check for me is the type of flaming your starting here is
> part of what is ruining this group. I have flown a few hrs, does that
> make me a pilot? I don't think so, but
> like Anthony I have an interest in aviation. I'm a member of AOPA, I
> read and watch anything I can about aviation and yes, I use a flight
> sim, several in fact.
>
> So why not just let threads like this die?
> shywon

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"shywon" > wrote in message
...
Your even worth the time it took to type this

On Mar 7, 12:49 pm, "Maxwell" <#$$9#@%%%.^^^> wrote:
> Because Anthony serves no greater purpose here than a common troll, and a
> magnet for dweebs.
>
> We get sick of answering the same questions over and over and over.
>
> Just like your post.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "shywon" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> Why start a thread like this? Does it really matter if he is or is not
> a pilot? Would most sensible people take advice from a person because
> they say they are a pilot?
> The reality check for me is the type of flaming your starting here is
> part of what is ruining this group. I have flown a few hrs, does that
> make me a pilot? I don't think so, but
> like Anthony I have an interest in aviation. I'm a member of AOPA, I
> read and watch anything I can about aviation and yes, I use a flight
> sim, several in fact.
>
> So why not just let threads like this die?
> shywon

Sorry mate, but you are indeed a good example. Every other week, someone
comes along with the "gee he doesn't seem like such a bad guy" story, and we
either have to explain things to them, or watch them stumble around for a
few weeks until they get to know the prick, and usually both.

But sooner or later, 99.99% come to the same conclusion. He is a selfish
little prick that does nothing be spread noise and confusion, and discourage
a lot of real pilots.

[shywon]

Oh I have been watching the BS between people and MS for quite a few
years. I didn't say he wasn't an ass. What I disagree with is
viperdocs starting this ridiculous thread.


On Mar 7, 6:56*pm, "Maxwell" <#$$9#@%%%.^^^> wrote:
> "shywon" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> Your even worth the time it took to type this
>
> On Mar 7, 12:49 pm, "Maxwell" <#$$9#@%%%.^^^> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Because Anthony serves no greater purpose here than a common troll, and a
> > magnet for dweebs.
>
> > We get sick of answering the same questions over and over and over.
>
> > Just like your post.
>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > "shywon" > wrote in message
>
> ....
> > Why start a thread like this? Does it really matter if he is or is not
> > a pilot? Would most sensible people take advice from a person because
> > they say they are a pilot?
> > The reality check for me is the type of flaming your starting here is
> > part of what is ruining this group. I have flown a few hrs, does that
> > make me a pilot? I don't think so, but
> > like Anthony I have an interest in aviation. I'm a member of AOPA, I
> > read and watch anything I can about aviation and yes, I use a flight
> > sim, several in fact.
>
> > So why not just let threads like this die?
> > shywon
>
> Sorry mate, but you are indeed a good example. Every other week, someone
> comes along with the "gee he doesn't seem like such a bad guy" story, and we
> either have to explain things to them, or watch them stumble around for a
> few weeks until they get to know the prick, and usually both.
>
> But sooner or later, 99.99% come to the same conclusion. He is a selfish
> little prick that does nothing be spread noise and confusion, and discourage
> a lot of real pilots.

[Martin Hotze[_3_]]

shywon schrieb:
> Oh I have been watching the BS between people and MS for quite a few
> years. I didn't say he wasn't an ass. What I disagree with is
> viperdocs starting this ridiculous thread.

What I can't understand is all those folks trying to discuss with MX
[1]. I tend to start also filter the people responding to MX, too. I
already filter out MX, but still there remain too many postings in the
same thread.

#m


[1] Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell
the difference.

[Dave Doe]

In article >,
says...
> Folks- how about a reality check here: it seems like a lot of people end up
> arguing with Anthony (mxsmanic) regarding aspects of flying about which he
> is actually clueless. The screen names look different, but the arguments
> from Anthony are boringly the same.
>
> He is not a pilot and never has been. He has never worked a radio or spoken
> with ATC. He has never piloted anything other than his desk, so why engage
> him in useless discourse in which he takes statements out of context or
> tries to give himself legitimacy in his otherwise miserable life.
>
> Why validate his socially empty delusional existence? The only reasonable
> response is to point out that he is not a pilot and has never flown, so
> anything he says is meaningless.

Yup!

--
Duncan

[Viperdoc[_6_]]

While this is usenet, and anything goes, I personally think it is great that
people post about flying, relating questions and experiences regarding the
process of flying.

Anthony is unique in that his behavior has driven him from the sim groups,
as well as the moderated Leica forums. It is pointless to argue with him,
and why bother, since he has never flown and never will. Why even try to
discuss subtle points of distinction with him when he knows nothing about
it, despite his delusions- he will never admit that he is wrong or
incorrect.

Then, there are the responders to the responders, who tend to be rigid and
narrow minded and feel that usenet should conform to their own perception
and sensibilities. These are probably the same guys who claim there is only
one way to enter a traffic pattern, one way to communicate, and therefore
never think outside the box. They may never get into trouble, but won't do
much to advance either knowledge or creativity. I see a lot of people like
this in the military. As they get older they are the ones who hang around
airports and are the curmudgeons, "grumpy old men" who spend most of their
time talking about the good old days.

Get a clue- it's usenet, so anything goes. No one, even Anthony or shywon,
will be able to make it what they want.

[a[_3_]]

On Mar 8, 8:57*am, "Viperdoc" > wrote:
> While this is usenet, and anything goes, I personally think it is great that
> people post about flying, relating questions and experiences regarding the
> process of flying.
>
> Anthony is unique in that his behavior has driven him from the sim groups,
> as well as the moderated Leica forums. It is pointless to argue with him,
> and why bother, since he has never flown and never will. Why even try to
> discuss subtle points of distinction with him when he knows nothing about
> it, despite his delusions- he will never admit that he is wrong or
> incorrect.
>
> Then, there are the responders to the responders, who tend to be rigid and
> narrow minded and feel that usenet should conform to their own perception
> and sensibilities. These are probably the same guys who claim there is only
> one way to enter a traffic pattern, one way to communicate, and therefore
> never think outside the box. They may never get into trouble, but won't do
> much to advance either knowledge or creativity. I see a lot of people like
> this in the military. As they get older they are the ones who hang around
> airports and are the curmudgeons, "grumpy old men" who spend most of their
> time talking about the good old days.
>
> Get a clue- it's usenet, so anything goes. No one, even Anthony or shywon,
> will be able to make it what they want.

Yet, Anthoiny wins attention with every post that is a response to, or
about, him. He could not in real social envirnoments have an
opportunity to engage with most of us, yet we permit him to here.

[Tman[_2_]]

I'm trying to create a small group of people willing to volunteer a few
hours to research and create a wikipedia page on mx.

T

Viperdoc wrote:
> Folks- how about a reality check here: it seems like a lot of people end up
> arguing with Anthony (mxsmanic) regarding aspects of flying about which he
> is actually clueless. The screen names look different, but the arguments
> from Anthony are boringly the same.
>
> He is not a pilot and never has been. He has never worked a radio or spoken
> with ATC. He has never piloted anything other than his desk, so why engage
> him in useless discourse in which he takes statements out of context or
> tries to give himself legitimacy in his otherwise miserable life.
>
> Why validate his socially empty delusional existence? The only reasonable
> response is to point out that he is not a pilot and has never flown, so
> anything he says is meaningless.
>
>

[dotcom]

On Mar 9, 2:40*am, Tman > wrote:
> I'm trying to create a small group of people willing to volunteer a few
> hours to research and create a wikipedia page on mx.
>
We dont need a page on mx. Just go to the page on Aspergers Syndrome
and you will see Mx described perfectly. And his behaviour isnt
confined to telling pilots how to fly aeroplanes. He will offfer his
"expert" opinion to anyone on any subject. If you want to see some of
his best work go and visit one of his other favourite haunts,
alt.support.shyness. He is the resident Dr.Phil giving advice on all
sorts of relationship issues. Not bad for a fellow who claims he isnt
even interested in the opposite sex, or his own sex for that matter..
but he has read about it! . I think he has a secret fantasy for a
twosome, but thinks sex is for extroverts. I once surmised on this
group that if I introduced myself to Mx as Terry , his reply would be
" No you're not" and that pretty well sums him up. Its sad, I know
but many people , including myself , have tried to give him the
benefit of the doubt and help him but its impossible. He is incapable
of admitting he is wrong, and I think its best to just accept thats
the way he is and either ignore him, or humour him. If he has any self
esteem at all , the only thing that holds that together is his
delusion that he is smarter than everyone else, and that that is the
reason for all his lifes failures. Let him have his delusion,

ps
I already know what his reponse would be to this.
1. Aspergers doesnt exist - its just a name extroverts ( people who
have sex) give to introverts.
2. He is smarter than everyone else.

[a[_3_]]

On Mar 11, 8:56*am, dotcom > wrote:
> On Mar 9, 2:40*am, Tman > wrote:> I'm trying to create a small group of people willing to volunteer a few
> > hours to research and create a wikipedia page on mx.
>
> We dont need a page on mx. Just go to the page on Aspergers Syndrome
> and you will see Mx described perfectly. *And his behaviour isnt
> confined to telling pilots how to fly aeroplanes. *He will offfer his
> "expert" opinion to anyone on any subject. *If you want to see some of
> his best work go and visit one of his other favourite haunts,
> alt.support.shyness. *He is the resident Dr.Phil giving advice on all
> sorts of relationship issues. Not bad for a fellow who claims he isnt
> even interested in the opposite sex, or his own sex for that matter..
> but he has read about it! . * I think he has a secret fantasy for a
> twosome, but thinks sex is for extroverts. *I once surmised on this
> group that if I introduced myself to Mx as Terry , his reply *would be
> " No you're not" * and that pretty well sums him up. *Its sad, I know
> but many people , including myself , have tried to give him the
> benefit of the doubt and help him but its impossible. *He is incapable
> of admitting he is wrong, and I think its best to just accept thats
> the way he is and either ignore him, or humour him. If he has any self
> esteem at all , the only thing that holds that together is his
> delusion that he is smarter than everyone else, and that that is the
> reason for all his lifes failures. Let him have his delusion,
>
> ps
> I already know what his reponse would be to this.
> 1. *Aspergers doesnt exist - its just a name extroverts ( people who
> have sex) *give to introverts.
> 2. *He is smarter than everyone else.

Someone in another thread suggested he was a sock puppet for a
psychologist. If he is such a creation, the shrink is really pretty
good at projecting a personality, but this would also be considered an
experiment on humans, and would need institutional review board
approval. Moreover, we, the subjects, would have to give informed
consent rather than the defacto consent we do give by feeding the
virtual troll or the real Anthony.

The only flaw in the behaviour model is its consistancy. Inappropiate
consistancy, according to some professionals, is consistant with other
mental disease states. If there's a DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical
Manual of Mental Disorders, the shrink's bible --- if third party
payment is desired) on line you can try to fit your impressions to one
or more of the conditions listed there.

People are hired at medical schools to present symptoms to students to
help those students learn to better diagnosis illnesses, including
mental illnesses. Should Anthony read this, it may be something he'd
like to explore in Paris, if it's done there. Around here, people make
somewhat more than pocket change doing that work.

[Wil[_2_]]

On Mar 7, 9:57*am, "Viperdoc" > wrote:
> Folks- how about a reality check here: it seems like a lot of people end up
> arguing with Anthony (mxsmanic) regarding aspects of flying about which he
> is actually clueless. The screen names look different, but the arguments
> from Anthony are boringly the same.
>
> He is not a pilot and never has been. He has never worked a radio or spoken
> with ATC. He has never piloted anything other than his desk, so why engage
> him in useless discourse in which he takes statements out of context or
> tries to give himself *legitimacy in his otherwise miserable life.
>
> Why validate his socially empty delusional existence? The only reasonable
> response is to point out that he is not a pilot and has never flown, so
> anything he says is meaningless.

Who gives a flying F if MX is not a real pilot? Only a few Top Gun
wannabes maybe, most real pilots don't mind discussing flying with the
general public nor the sim flyers.

I getting tired of all these immature Top Gun wannabes thinking they
are so much better than everyone else because they can fly a frickin
REAL airplane. WooptyDoo! I'm have been flying for ove 20 years and
yeah at first I thought I was Chuck Yeager, but let's face reality
here. There are different levels of pilots, those wanting to start,
those in the process those already flying and those really great and
talented test pilots. Then there's MX, those wanting to flying, but
can't bring themselves to fly a real airplane for whatever reason.
Let him speak, he will wether he has your approval or not anyways.
Why get yourselves all worked up? There's nothing you can do to stop
him from posting here. I have been lurking here for 6-7 years and
poeple like you annoy me more than people like MX ever will.

This is unmoderated useness and everyone is entitled to post here
pilots or not.

[Mike]

"Maxwell" <#$$9#@%%%.^^^> wrote in message
...
> But sooner or later, 99.99% come to the same conclusion. He is a selfish
> little prick that does nothing be spread noise and confusion, and
> discourage a lot of real pilots.

Pot/Kettle

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Mike" <nospam @ aol.com> wrote in message
...
> "Maxwell" <#$$9#@%%%.^^^> wrote in message
> ...
>> But sooner or later, 99.99% come to the same conclusion. He is a selfish
>> little prick that does nothing be spread noise and confusion, and
>> discourage a lot of real pilots.
>
> Pot/Kettle

****s the matter little boi, still a sore looser.

[C Gattman - CFI]

On Mar 11, 5:21*pm, "Maxwell" <#$$9#@%%%.^^^> wrote:
> "Mike" <nospam @ aol.com> wrote in t...
>
> > "Maxwell" <#$$9#@%%%.^^^> wrote in message
> ...
> >> But sooner or later, 99.99% come to the same conclusion. He is a selfish
> >> little prick that does nothing be spread noise and confusion, and
> >> discourage a lot of real pilots.
>
> > Pot/Kettle
>
> ****s the matter little boi, still a sore looser.

Wow. I'm gone for six months, return and find literally the same
discussion going on. There are some seriously pathetic people in the
forum if all they have to do is this nonsense day in and day out.
Pretty shallow fishbowl. Best of luck to you.

Hope the rest of you guys are having fun and getting ready for
spring. Cheers!

-c
CFI-ASEL, Portland, OR

[Tim[_7_]]

"C Gattman - CFI" > wrote in message
news:973f2603-ab4f-4656-b2e7-

Wow. I'm gone for six months, return and find literally the same
discussion going on. There are some seriously pathetic people in the
forum if all they have to do is this nonsense day in and day out.
Pretty shallow fishbowl. Best of luck to you.

Hope the rest of you guys are having fun and getting ready for
spring. Cheers!

-c
CFI-ASEL, Portland, OR

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

And you feel it useful to respond to a thread that died more than two weeks
ago.

[Dan Camper]

On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:44:50 -0500, Tim wrote:

> "C Gattman - CFI" > wrote in message
> news:973f2603-ab4f-4656-b2e7-
>
> Wow. I'm gone for six months, return and find literally the same
> discussion going on. There are some seriously pathetic people in the
> forum if all they have to do is this nonsense day in and day out.
> Pretty shallow fishbowl. Best of luck to you.
>
> Hope the rest of you guys are having fun and getting ready for
> spring. Cheers!
>
> -c
> CFI-ASEL, Portland, OR
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> And you feel it useful to respond to a thread that died more than two weeks
> ago.

When you're right, you're right and you're a ****wit.
--
http://tr.im/1f9p

[Tim[_7_]]

"Dan Camper" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:44:50 -0500, Tim wrote:
>
>> "C Gattman - CFI" > wrote in message
>> news:973f2603-ab4f-4656-b2e7-
>>
>> Wow. I'm gone for six months, return and find literally the same
>> discussion going on. There are some seriously pathetic people in the
>> forum if all they have to do is this nonsense day in and day out.
>> Pretty shallow fishbowl. Best of luck to you.
>>
>> Hope the rest of you guys are having fun and getting ready for
>> spring. Cheers!
>>
>> -c
>> CFI-ASEL, Portland, OR
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> And you feel it useful to respond to a thread that died more than two
>> weeks
>> ago.
>
> When you're right, you're right and you're a ****wit.
> --
> http://tr.im/1f9p

Like you would have a clue about right and wrong. You're just a mouthy
little dick head hoping someone will spar with him.

[Dan Camper]

On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:08:00 -0500, Tim wrote:

> "Dan Camper" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:44:50 -0500, Tim wrote:
>>
>>> "C Gattman - CFI" > wrote in message
>>> news:973f2603-ab4f-4656-b2e7-
>>>
>>> Wow. I'm gone for six months, return and find literally the same
>>> discussion going on. There are some seriously pathetic people in the
>>> forum if all they have to do is this nonsense day in and day out.
>>> Pretty shallow fishbowl. Best of luck to you.
>>>
>>> Hope the rest of you guys are having fun and getting ready for
>>> spring. Cheers!
>>>
>>> -c
>>> CFI-ASEL, Portland, OR
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> And you feel it useful to respond to a thread that died more than two
>>> weeks
>>> ago.
>>
>> When you're right, you're right and you're a ****wit.
>> --
>> http://tr.im/1f9p
>
> Like you would have a clue about right and wrong. You're just a mouthy
> little dick head hoping someone will spar with him.

And you feel it useful to respond to a thread that died more than two
weeks ago, ****wit?

See how that works?
--
http://tr.im/1f9p

[Tim[_7_]]

"Dan Camper" > wrote in message
...
>
> And you feel it useful to respond to a thread that died more than two
> weeks ago, ****wit?
>
> See how that works?
> --
> http://tr.im/1f9p

Seems your math is as useless as your social skills.

[Dan Camper]

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:02:59 -0500, Tim wrote:

> "Dan Camper" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> And you feel it useful to respond to a thread that died more than two
>> weeks ago, ****wit?
>>
>> See how that works?
>> --
>> http://tr.im/1f9p
>
> Seems your math is as useless as your social skills.

You're an asshole but I feel in the Xmas mood so.............

I have some helpful information for you.

There are exactly two categories of people who might read any article
you post. The first group comprises those who know you're a liar, a
plagiarist, a fraud and an idiot. The second includes only those who
have never heard of you.

Your lies and incoherent nonsense just give the first group an
opportunity to laugh at you, and any of the second group who see that
crap will immediately migrate to the first.

If you want to maintain as good an image as possible, your best bet?

Shut the **** up.

--
http://tr.im/1f9p

[Tim[_7_]]

"Dan Camper" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:02:59 -0500, Tim wrote:
>
>> "Dan Camper" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> And you feel it useful to respond to a thread that died more than two
>>> weeks ago, ****wit?
>>>
>>> See how that works?
>>> --
>>> http://tr.im/1f9p
>>
>> Seems your math is as useless as your social skills.
>
> You're an asshole but I feel in the Xmas mood so.............
>
> I have some helpful information for you.
>
> There are exactly two categories of people who might read any article
> you post. The first group comprises those who know you're a liar, a
> plagiarist, a fraud and an idiot. The second includes only those who
> have never heard of you.
>
> Your lies and incoherent nonsense just give the first group an
> opportunity to laugh at you, and any of the second group who see that
> crap will immediately migrate to the first.
>
> If you want to maintain as good an image as possible, your best bet?
>
> Shut the **** up.
>
> --
> http://tr.im/1f9p

There ya go wanna be, open your head and show us what's inside.

You know yourself pretty well, did you have professional help?