Re: Crash pilot who paused to pray is convicted

[Eeyore[_2_]]

Gunner Asch wrote:

> Eeyore > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > BTW, Tunisia is one of the more enlightened Arab countries. They have
> >> > Christians there too.
> >> >
> >> > Graham
> >>
> >> Fine with me. Live in Tunisia, die like a raghead.
> >
> >Would you care to explain what you mean by that ? US xenophobia is responsible for
> >a lot of pointless wars.
>
> US xenophobia? Interesting choice of terms. Utterly buffoonish and has
> the same impact as a rancid fart. but interesting none the less.
>
> Could you please give us some examples of "US xenophobia"?

Use of the word 'raghead' would be a decent starting point. Note my other post where
Tunisia has co-operated with US forces dealing with Islamists.

Graham

[Gunner Asch]

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:53:24 +0100, Eeyore
> wrote:

>
>
>Gunner Asch wrote:
>
>> Eeyore > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > BTW, Tunisia is one of the more enlightened Arab countries. They have
>> >> > Christians there too.
>> >> >
>> >> > Graham
>> >>
>> >> Fine with me. Live in Tunisia, die like a raghead.
>> >
>> >Would you care to explain what you mean by that ? US xenophobia is responsible for
>> >a lot of pointless wars.
>>
>> US xenophobia? Interesting choice of terms. Utterly buffoonish and has
>> the same impact as a rancid fart. but interesting none the less.
>>
>> Could you please give us some examples of "US xenophobia"?
>
>Use of the word 'raghead' would be a decent starting point. Note my other post where
>Tunisia has co-operated with US forces dealing with Islamists.
>
>Graham


Still waiting for your examples of "US xenophobia"

Gunner


"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so
would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining
power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The
problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group,
they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of
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want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second
Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting
rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and
complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture
that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political
correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the
competing factions of Islamic
fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core,
and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr

[Dan[_9_]]

Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:53:24 +0100, Eeyore
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>>> Eeyore > wrote:
>>>>>> BTW, Tunisia is one of the more enlightened Arab countries. They have
>>>>>> Christians there too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Graham
>>>>> Fine with me. Live in Tunisia, die like a raghead.
>>>> Would you care to explain what you mean by that ? US xenophobia is responsible for
>>>> a lot of pointless wars.
>>> US xenophobia? Interesting choice of terms. Utterly buffoonish and has
>>> the same impact as a rancid fart. but interesting none the less.
>>>
>>> Could you please give us some examples of "US xenophobia"?
>> Use of the word 'raghead' would be a decent starting point. Note my other post where
>> Tunisia has co-operated with US forces dealing with Islamists.
>>
>> Graham
>
>
> Still waiting for your examples of "US xenophobia"

Obviously, you aren't. Just another pathetic lie from the eternal coward.

Dan

[Eeyore[_2_]]

Gunner Asch wrote:

> Eeyore > wrote:
> >Gunner Asch wrote:
> >> Eeyore > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > BTW, Tunisia is one of the more enlightened Arab countries. They have
> >> >> > Christians there too.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Graham
> >> >>
> >> >> Fine with me. Live in Tunisia, die like a raghead.
> >> >
> >> >Would you care to explain what you mean by that ? US xenophobia is responsible for
> >> >a lot of pointless wars.
> >>
> >> US xenophobia? Interesting choice of terms. Utterly buffoonish and has
> >> the same impact as a rancid fart. but interesting none the less.
> >>
> >> Could you please give us some examples of "US xenophobia"?
> >
> >Use of the word 'raghead' would be a decent starting point. Note my other post where
> >Tunisia has co-operated with US forces dealing with Islamists.
>
> Still waiting for your examples of "US xenophobia"

I would say using the term 'raghead' as a catch-all for Arabs / Moslems is xenophobic. As
it happens some of the Mediterranean primarily Islamic countries are quite strict about
making face masking of females illegal.

Graham

[Eeyore[_2_]]

Dan wrote:

> Gunner Asch wrote:
> > Eeyore > wrote:
> >> Gunner Asch wrote:
> >>> Eeyore > wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>> BTW, Tunisia is one of the more enlightened Arab countries. They have
> >>>>>> Christians there too.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Graham
> >>>>> Fine with me. Live in Tunisia, die like a raghead.
> >>>> Would you care to explain what you mean by that ? US xenophobia is responsible for
> >>>> a lot of pointless wars.
> >>> US xenophobia? Interesting choice of terms. Utterly buffoonish and has
> >>> the same impact as a rancid fart. but interesting none the less.
> >>>
> >>> Could you please give us some examples of "US xenophobia"?
> >> Use of the word 'raghead' would be a decent starting point. Note my other post where
> >> Tunisia has co-operated with US forces dealing with Islamists.
>
> > Still waiting for your examples of "US xenophobia"
>
> Obviously, you aren't. Just another pathetic lie from the eternal coward.

Nevertheless, the pilot's response was totally inappropriate and a deviation from SOP.
Sounds like some CRM is needed.

Graham

[Tim[_7_]]

"Eeyore" > wrote in message
...
>
As
> it happens some of the Mediterranean primarily Islamic countries are quite
> strict about
> making face masking of females illegal.
>

Shame, I was kind of hoping it might catch on in many areas of the US.
Especially places like WalMart and Kmart.

[Eeyore[_2_]]

Tim wrote:

> "Eeyore" > wrote
> >
> >As it happens some of the Mediterranean primarily Islamic countries are quite
>
> > strict about making face masking of females illegal.
>
> Shame, I was kind of hoping it might catch on in many areas of the US.
> Especially places like WalMart and Kmart.

LOL ! Kinda know what you mean. As it happens, there are quite a few Muslims in
the area I live in. The other say I was at the checkout in the local supermarket
and although she had had her hair covered, I couldn't help but notice a teen
female Muslim (a) because she had a nice face and (b) to my amusement was
wearing make-up that complemented her eyes very well. A bit Goth-like actually.
I'd rate her as rather attractive. Those kids don't want to be forced into
arranged marriages with goatherd Uncles from Pakistan. Give it time.

Graham

[Tim[_7_]]

"Eeyore" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Tim wrote:
>
>> "Eeyore" > wrote
>> >
>> >As it happens some of the Mediterranean primarily Islamic countries are
>> >quite
>>
>> > strict about making face masking of females illegal.
>>
>> Shame, I was kind of hoping it might catch on in many areas of the US.
>> Especially places like WalMart and Kmart.
>
> LOL ! Kinda know what you mean. As it happens, there are quite a few
> Muslims in
> the area I live in. The other say I was at the checkout in the local
> supermarket
> and although she had had her hair covered, I couldn't help but notice a
> teen
> female Muslim (a) because she had a nice face and (b) to my amusement was
> wearing make-up that complemented her eyes very well. A bit Goth-like
> actually.
> I'd rate her as rather attractive. Those kids don't want to be forced into
> arranged marriages with goatherd Uncles from Pakistan. Give it time.
>
> Graham
>

Agreed. But the girls I talking about aren't Muslims, their locals. But they
would look much better face masking.

[Mxsmanic]

Strabo writes:

> Of course it was, to us. But then fatalistic Islam contains impediments
> to develop technology such as we have.
>
> Just one of many ways by which Islam is antithetical to free thought,
> free commerce and a free republic.

You're confusing Islam itself with the odd habits of some cultures that happen
to include many Muslims. For example, many people mistakenly attribute Arab
cultural habits to Islam, when in fact they are two different things.

[Strabo]

Eeyore wrote:
>
> Dan wrote:
>
>> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> Eeyore > wrote:
>>>> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>>> Eeyore > wrote:
>>>>>>>> BTW, Tunisia is one of the more enlightened Arab countries. They have
>>>>>>>> Christians there too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Graham
>>>>>>> Fine with me. Live in Tunisia, die like a raghead.
>>>>>> Would you care to explain what you mean by that ? US xenophobia is responsible for
>>>>>> a lot of pointless wars.
>>>>> US xenophobia? Interesting choice of terms. Utterly buffoonish and has
>>>>> the same impact as a rancid fart. but interesting none the less.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you please give us some examples of "US xenophobia"?
>>>> Use of the word 'raghead' would be a decent starting point. Note my other post where
>>>> Tunisia has co-operated with US forces dealing with Islamists.
>>> Still waiting for your examples of "US xenophobia"
>> Obviously, you aren't. Just another pathetic lie from the eternal coward.
>
> Nevertheless, the pilot's response was totally inappropriate and a deviation from SOP.
> Sounds like some CRM is needed.
>

Of course it was, to us. But then fatalistic Islam contains impediments
to develop technology such as we have.

Just one of many ways by which Islam is antithetical to free thought,
free commerce and a free republic.

Any Muslim who takes the oath to US citizenship or politics has
compromised himself.


>
> Graham
>

[Mxsmanic]

Strabo writes:

> Mohammend's wife did not wear a veil. True. Part of history. She
> was by all accounts something of a feminist. Arab culture at the time
> was much different than it is today.

Islam was intended to moderate some of the more extreme Arab customs, IMO.

[Eeyore[_2_]]

Tim wrote:

> "Eeyore" > wrote
> > Tim wrote:
> >> "Eeyore" > wrote
> >> >
> >> >As it happens some of the Mediterranean primarily Islamic countries are
> >> >quite
> >>
> >> > strict about making face masking of females illegal.
> >>
> >> Shame, I was kind of hoping it might catch on in many areas of the US.
> >> Especially places like WalMart and Kmart.
> >
> > LOL ! Kinda know what you mean. As it happens, there are quite a few
> > Muslims in the area I live in. The other say I was at the checkout in the
> local
> > supermarket and although she had had her hair covered, I couldn't help but
> notice a
> > teen female Muslim (a) because she had a nice face and (b) to my amusement
> was
> > wearing make-up that complemented her eyes very well. A bit Goth-like
> > actually. I'd rate her as rather attractive. Those kids don't want to be
> forced into
> > arranged marriages with goatherd Uncles from Pakistan. Give it time.
>
> Agreed. But the girls I talking about aren't Muslims, their locals. But they
> would look much better face masking.

I got what you meant. ;~)

Graham

[Strabo]

Eeyore wrote:
>
> Gunner Asch wrote:
>
>> Eeyore > wrote:
>>> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>> Eeyore > wrote:
>>>>>>> BTW, Tunisia is one of the more enlightened Arab countries. They have
>>>>>>> Christians there too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Graham
>>>>>> Fine with me. Live in Tunisia, die like a raghead.
>>>>> Would you care to explain what you mean by that ? US xenophobia is responsible for
>>>>> a lot of pointless wars.
>>>> US xenophobia? Interesting choice of terms. Utterly buffoonish and has
>>>> the same impact as a rancid fart. but interesting none the less.
>>>>
>>>> Could you please give us some examples of "US xenophobia"?
>>> Use of the word 'raghead' would be a decent starting point. Note my other post where
>>> Tunisia has co-operated with US forces dealing with Islamists.
>> Still waiting for your examples of "US xenophobia"
>
> I would say using the term 'raghead' as a catch-all for Arabs / Moslems is xenophobic. As
> it happens some of the Mediterranean primarily Islamic countries are quite strict about
> making face masking of females illegal.
>

Mohammend's wife did not wear a veil. True. Part of history. She
was by all accounts something of a feminist. Arab culture at the time
was much different than it is today.

Burkhas and masks were not a part of early Islam. These are impositions
piled on later by the usual culprits.



> Graham
>

[Eeyore[_2_]]

Strabo wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
> > Gunner Asch wrote:
> >> Eeyore > wrote:
> >>> Gunner Asch wrote:
> >>>> Eeyore > wrote:
> >>>>>>> BTW, Tunisia is one of the more enlightened Arab countries. They have
> >>>>>>> Christians there too.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Graham
> >>>>>> Fine with me. Live in Tunisia, die like a raghead.
> >>>>> Would you care to explain what you mean by that ? US xenophobia is responsible for
> >>>>> a lot of pointless wars.
> >>>> US xenophobia? Interesting choice of terms. Utterly buffoonish and has
> >>>> the same impact as a rancid fart. but interesting none the less.
> >>>>
> >>>> Could you please give us some examples of "US xenophobia"?
> >>> Use of the word 'raghead' would be a decent starting point. Note my other post where
> >>> Tunisia has co-operated with US forces dealing with Islamists.
> >> Still waiting for your examples of "US xenophobia"
> >
> > I would say using the term 'raghead' as a catch-all for Arabs / Moslems is xenophobic. As
> > it happens some of the Mediterranean primarily Islamic countries are quite strict about
> > making face masking of females illegal.
> >
>
> Mohammend's wife did not wear a veil. True. Part of history. She
> was by all accounts something of a feminist.

Well he had several wives including a 9 y.o.or so IIRC.


> Arab culture at the time was much different than it is today.

Yes, they were quite scientific at one point.


> Burkhas and masks were not a part of early Islam. These are impositions
> piled on later by the usual culprits.

The usual distortions of religious writings. One reason there are so may muslim sects with
varying attitudes.

Some interesting info here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Arab_societies

Graham

[Eeyore[_2_]]

Eeyore wrote:

> Strabo wrote:
> > Eeyore wrote:
> > > Gunner Asch wrote:
> > >> Eeyore > wrote:
> > >>> Gunner Asch wrote:
> > >>>> Eeyore > wrote:
> > >>>>>>> BTW, Tunisia is one of the more enlightened Arab countries. They have
> > >>>>>>> Christians there too.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Graham
> > >>>>>> Fine with me. Live in Tunisia, die like a raghead.
> > >>>>> Would you care to explain what you mean by that ? US xenophobia is responsible for
> > >>>>> a lot of pointless wars.
> > >>>> US xenophobia? Interesting choice of terms. Utterly buffoonish and has
> > >>>> the same impact as a rancid fart. but interesting none the less.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Could you please give us some examples of "US xenophobia"?
> > >>> Use of the word 'raghead' would be a decent starting point. Note my other post where
> > >>> Tunisia has co-operated with US forces dealing with Islamists.
> > >> Still waiting for your examples of "US xenophobia"
> > >
> > > I would say using the term 'raghead' as a catch-all for Arabs / Moslems is xenophobic. As
> > > it happens some of the Mediterranean primarily Islamic countries are quite strict about
> > > making face masking of females illegal.
> > >
> >
> > Mohammend's wife did not wear a veil. True. Part of history. She
> > was by all accounts something of a feminist.
>
> Well he had several wives including a 9 y.o.or so IIRC.
>
> > Arab culture at the time was much different than it is today.
>
> Yes, they were quite scientific at one point.
>
> > Burkhas and masks were not a part of early Islam. These are impositions
> > piled on later by the usual culprits.
>
> The usual distortions of religious writings. One reason there are so may muslim sects with
> varying attitudes.
>
> Some interesting info here.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Arab_societies

More here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad#Wives_and_children
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha#Marriage_to_Muhammad

Graham

[Eeyore[_2_]]

Mxsmanic wrote:

> Strabo writes:
>
> > Mohammend's wife did not wear a veil. True. Part of history. She
> > was by all accounts something of a feminist. Arab culture at the time
> > was much different than it is today.
>
> Islam was intended to moderate some of the more extreme Arab customs, IMO.

At the time that was probably true.

Graham

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
...
> Strabo writes:
>
>> Of course it was, to us. But then fatalistic Islam contains impediments
>> to develop technology such as we have.
>>
>> Just one of many ways by which Islam is antithetical to free thought,
>> free commerce and a free republic.
>
> You're confusing Islam itself with the odd habits of some cultures that
> happen
> to include many Muslims. For example, many people mistakenly attribute
> Arab
> cultural habits to Islam, when in fact they are two different things.

Hi dumb ass, have you been ordained, or something, since the last time your
rattled your empty head here?

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
...
> Strabo writes:
>
>> Mohammend's wife did not wear a veil. True. Part of history. She
>> was by all accounts something of a feminist. Arab culture at the time
>> was much different than it is today.
>
> Islam was intended to moderate some of the more extreme Arab customs, IMO.

Well when was the last time anyone gave a **** about your opinion around
here?

[Eeyore[_2_]]

Mxsmanic wrote:

> Strabo writes:
>
> > Of course it was, to us. But then fatalistic Islam contains impediments
> > to develop technology such as we have.
> >
> > Just one of many ways by which Islam is antithetical to free thought,
> > free commerce and a free republic.
>
> You're confusing Islam itself with the odd habits of some cultures that happen
> to include many Muslims. For example, many people mistakenly attribute Arab
> cultural habits to Islam, when in fact they are two different things.

For example Islamic is NOT Islamist.

Graham