Re: 1909 film of Wright flyer in France

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On Apr 2, 2:45*pm, wrote:
> On Apr 1, 5:40*pm, Steve Hix > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > *"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk @See My Sig.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Frank" > wrote in message
> > ....
> > > > Excellent historical film of a 1909 demo flight by the Wright brothers
> > > > in France, including a short segment from an on-board camera.
>
> > > >www.europafilmtreasures.eu/PY/322/fiche_technique.htm?ID=322
>
> Thanks for the clip! Usually I only see about 10 seconds of this
> film.
>
> FYI, the location was actually in Italy. The production company was
> French. The film bio lists the date as April 24 1909, which is
> consistant with what I remember from the Wright notebooks. (The actual
> reference is in the McFarland text, volume 2 for you Wright Brothers
> wonks.) Watch for the gentleman wearing the grey suit and straw
> "boater". That's Orville. Also note when he turns that he's using a
> cane and leaning on it rather heavily. This film was made only a few
> months after the Ft. Myers crash.
>
> As far as I know, there aren't any flying 1909 or Model A machines.
> The 1909 was an enlarged copy of the 1905, which is currently housed
> at Carollion Park in Dayton. Its about 60% original, making it the
> most original Wright machine in existance. There are flying
> reproductions of most other Wright models including:
>
> 1878 "bat" toy helicopter - mine
> 1899 kite - mine, Engler, Hyde, Smith, Young, Young, Crouch, and a few
> others
> 1900 glider - Hyde/Young, Engler
> 1901 glider - Hyde/Young, Engler
> 1902 glider - mine, Engler (2 or more), Hyde/Young, Quigley
> 1903 flying machine - Kellet, Hyde/Wright Brothers Experience, Young/
> VA museum of Aviation, Wright Redux, Engler
> 1905 flying machine - Engler & one other, can't remember who built it
> but its on YouTube
> Model B - Smith, Hyde, Wright B Flyer
> Model EX - Smith
>
> There may be others. Its getting had to keep track anymore.
>
> Harry Frey
> Wright Brothers Enterprises

The National Soaring Museum has replicas of the Wright glider No. 3
(1902) and No. 5 (1911).

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> The National Soaring Museum has replicas of the Wright glider No. 3
> (1902) and No. 5 (1911).- Hide quoted text -


I was only counting the ships that have flown. There are nearly a
dozen 1902 gliders in existance at this time and another under
construction in CA. There are at least two dozen 1903's.

Do you know who built the 1902 in the soaring museum?

Harry

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On Apr 6, 10:22*pm, wrote:
> > The National Soaring Museum has replicas of the Wright glider No. 3
> > (1902) and No. 5 (1911).- Hide quoted text -
>
> I was only counting the ships that have flown. There are nearly a
> dozen 1902 gliders in existance at this time and another under
> construction in CA. There are at least two dozen 1903's.
>
> Do you know who built the 1902 in the soaring museum?
>
> Harry

Both of our Wright replicas were built here at the museum by
volunteers.