Badwater Bill's Memorial Service

[John Ammeter]

The room was standing room only... about 10 people were left without
seats in the back. I noted the room capacity was 200 and I'm sure that
was an accurate count since I was the first up with my memories of
Badwater Bill and couldn't see one empty chair. In fact, my own seat
was taken while I was up front...

Several neighbors, former co-workers and long time friends shared their
memories of Billy. There were tears and a few laughs at the stories
told. Kevin told of helping Bill learn to use a light hand on the
controls of a helicopter. Apparently, Bill was using a "death grip" on
the controls so Kevin took him out for a 6 hour flight. He said that by
the end of that flight Billy was using a light grip on the controls...
"no one can keep a death grip for 6 hours"...

A slide show of Bill's life was shown which brought tears again...

After the inside service we all went outside where two doves were
released and everyone got a chance to launch a small wooden model
airplane into the air.

A reception followed where we had a chance to talk about Bill with each
other and enjoy much good food. I sat next to Janice's twin sister..
first time I'd met her. Slightly different hairdo but, otherwise, an
identical twin. She is just as charming and wonderful to talk to as
Janice. Joanne has been at Janice's side almost constantly since the
accident.

A few of us left the reception to go back to our hotel room where we
toasted Billy... we filled a plastic cup with Billy's favorite scotch
and put it on the TV. With a note that read, "This is my scotch so keep
your ****ing hands off of it"... signed, "BWB"... I think I was
channeling Billy about that time. At the end of the evening, we poured
a bit of scotch from that cup into each persons cup. And we thanked
Billy for sharing his scotch with us as we made a final toast to
Badwater Bill. The best friend and worst enemy you could ever have....

Some pictures were taken at the wake and Oyster will be emailing access
details for the pics to those interested.

[BERNIE THE BUNION]

> John Ammeter > wrote:

> The room was standing room only...
>
> There were tears and a few laughs at the stories told.

Did any women stand up and while looking his wife in the eye recount
stories about how they had been publicly called ****s by this fine man.

Any members of this group show up and tell how much they enjoyed being
publicly denigrated by being called galactically stupid.

Any on the Pinkneyville hit list show up to express their appreciation
for the repeated attacks on their yearly fly in by this pompous asshole.

Anybody else here want to add some of their personal recollections of
what Bill was really like.

[Brian Whatcott]

BERNIE THE BUNION wrote:
>> John Ammeter > wrote:
>
>> The room was standing room only...
>>
>> There were tears and a few laughs at the stories told.
>
> Did any women stand up and while looking his wife in the eye recount
> stories about how they had been publicly called ****s by this fine man.
>
> Any members of this group show up and tell how much they enjoyed being
> publicly denigrated by being called galactically stupid.
>
> Any on the Pinkneyville hit list show up to express their appreciation
> for the repeated attacks on their yearly fly in by this pompous asshole.
>
> Anybody else here want to add some of their personal recollections of
> what Bill was really like.


Those that could, probably won't: recalling that 'de mortuis, nihil nisi
bonum'.
For every offended person who is unforgiving, best to recall that he
finally encountered something more unforgiving - the airplane.

Brian W

[Barnyard BOb]

On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:59:14 GMT, BERNIE THE BUNION
> wrote:

>> John Ammeter > wrote:
>
>> The room was standing room only...
>>
>> There were tears and a few laughs at the stories told.
>
>Did any women stand up and while looking his wife in the eye recount
>stories about how they had been publicly called ****s by this fine man.
>
>Any members of this group show up and tell how much they enjoyed being
>publicly denigrated by being called galactically stupid.
>
>Any on the Pinkneyville hit list show up to express their appreciation
>for the repeated attacks on their yearly fly in by this pompous asshole.
>
>Anybody else here want to add some of their personal recollections of
>what Bill was really like.
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Thank you for this opportunity, BERNIE.

With Bil's passing......
I may no longer have to worry about Bill and his lawyer(s)
suing or threatening to sue my ass into the poor house.

I wish all that revere Bill could experience my relief and euphoria.


- Barnyard BOb -

The more people I meet,
the more I like my dog &
George Carlin humor.

[cavelamb[_2_]]

Barnyard BOb wrote:
>
> Thank you for this opportunity, BERNIE.
>
> With Bil's passing......
> I may no longer have to worry about Bill and his lawyer(s)
> suing or threatening to sue my ass into the poor house.
>
> I wish all that revere Bill could experience my relief and euphoria.
>
>
> - Barnyard BOb -
>
>

Not trying to start anything here BOb, but who will feel the same way
when you go?

[Maxwell[_10_]]

"cavelamb" > wrote in message
m...
> Barnyard BOb wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for this opportunity, BERNIE.
>>
>> With Bil's passing......
>> I may no longer have to worry about Bill and his lawyer(s) suing or
>> threatening to sue my ass into the poor house.
>>
>> I wish all that revere Bill could experience my relief and euphoria.
>>
>>
>> - Barnyard BOb -
>>
>
> Not trying to start anything here BOb, but who will feel the same way
> when you go?

Gee, I'm not trying to start anything either, but who will feel the same way
when you go Richard?

[Maxwell[_10_]]

"BERNIE THE BUNION" > wrote in message
...
>> John Ammeter > wrote:
>
>> The room was standing room only...
>>
>> There were tears and a few laughs at the stories told.
>
> Did any women stand up and while looking his wife in the eye recount
> stories about how they had been publicly called ****s by this fine man.
>
> Any members of this group show up and tell how much they enjoyed being
> publicly denigrated by being called galactically stupid.
>
> Any on the Pinkneyville hit list show up to express their appreciation
> for the repeated attacks on their yearly fly in by this pompous asshole.
>
> Anybody else here want to add some of their personal recollections of
> what Bill was really like.

What I remember most about Bill is the way he held himself in much higher
regard than all the second class citizens with less possessions than
himself. Back in the days when everyone here was more focused on which
participants here were actual pilots, and then actual aircraft owners, Bill
was very rude to those less fortunate than himself. He was vocal in his
opinion that anyone as smart or hard working as himself, could have, should
have, been just as successful as himself, and that someone else's lack of
success was a clear indication of laziness, ignorance or poor decision
making. He would never admit for one minute, how much luck had always
contributed to his success. Much less consider how many times bad luck was
the only think that separated him from his less fortunate peers.

Kind of ironic actually. Bills last flight might have been his very first
experience with real bad luck. I wonder if he would feel the same way today?

[cavelamb[_2_]]

Maxwell wrote:
> "cavelamb" > wrote in message
> m...
>> Barnyard BOb wrote:
>>> Thank you for this opportunity, BERNIE.
>>>
>>> With Bil's passing......
>>> I may no longer have to worry about Bill and his lawyer(s) suing or
>>> threatening to sue my ass into the poor house.
>>>
>>> I wish all that revere Bill could experience my relief and euphoria.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Barnyard BOb -
>>>
>> Not trying to start anything here BOb, but who will feel the same way
>> when you go?
>
> Gee, I'm not trying to start anything either, but who will feel the same way
> when you go Richard?
>
>

A few.

[cavelamb[_2_]]

Maxwell wrote:
>
> Kind of ironic actually. Bills last flight might have been his very first
> experience with real bad luck. I wonder if he would feel the same way today?
>
>


Sonny always says, "In aviation, you can't make the same mistake - once".

[cavelamb[_2_]]

>> Gee, I'm not trying to start anything either, but who will feel the
>> same way when you go Richard?
>>
>
> A few.
>
>

But I can't think of anybody I would feel that way about.

For instance, one of our Bobs has given me a whole sack full
of grief over the years, deserved,I'm sure, by his lights.

But even so, I don't dislike the guy.
Certainly not enough to go bad mouthing him or anything.
I'm not happy about his recent unfortunate news.
Life is hard enough as it is...

[Barnyard BOb]

On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:16:47 -0500, cavelamb >
wrote:

>Barnyard BOb wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for this opportunity, BERNIE.
>>
>> With Bil's passing......
>> I may no longer have to worry about Bill and his lawyer(s)
>> suing or threatening to sue my ass into the poor house.
>>
>> I wish all that revere Bill could experience my relief and euphoria.
>>
>>
>> - Barnyard BOb -
>>
>>
>
>Not trying to start anything here BOb, but who will feel the same way
>when you go?
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Although your message rings loud and clear, and is understood...

BFD, Mr. Cavelamb. ;-)

I care not what people think and say about me when I'm gone.
I care how people treat me while I'm alive.. when it counts!

Be aware what people say MAY NOT be what they feel. I can attest that
at least two people that have spoken reasonably well of BWB here,
would never state their true feelings... if that's worth in anything.

Bill was a prick once you got to REALLY, REALY know him, IMO.
I told him so in many apparently successful ways right here in r.a.h.
It's why Bill sent his lawyer(s) to ruin me. Bill could dish it out
better than most, but sure as hell couldn't take it....
at least not from me.

Most folks here either don't know the truth as I see it, are blind to
it, are just non confrontational or possibly cowardly on the matter.
Even Bernie hasn't found the cajones to post his real name while
speaking negatively of Bill. Ditto for Lady Pilot or her imposter.

Can I find nice things to say concerning Bill?
Some, but...

To Thine Own Self Be True

Yet here, Laertes! Aboard, aboard for shame!
The wind sits in the shoulder of your sail,
And you are stay'd for.
There ... my blessing with thee!
And these few precepts in thy memory
Look thou character. Give thy thoughts no tongue,
Nor any unproportion'd thought his act.
Be thou familiar, but by no means vulgar.
Those friends thou hast, and their adoption tried,
Grapple them to thy soul with hoops of steel;
But do not dull thy palm with entertainment
Of each new-hatch'd, unfledg’d comrade. Beware
Of entrance to a quarrel but, being in,
Bear't that th' opposed may beware of thee.
Give every man thy ear, but few thy voice;
Take each man's censure, but reserve thy judgement.
Costly thy habit as thy purse can buy,
But not express'd in fancy; rich, not gaudy;
For the apparel oft proclaims the man;
And they in France of the best rank and station
Are of a most select and generous chief in that.
Neither a borrower, nor a lender be;
For loan oft loses both itself and friend,
And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry.
This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man.
Farewell; my blessing season this in thee!

-- William Shakespeare

Over time, Bill sent our relationship over the cliff.
I am hardly alone. Others have met similar fates.

I'm pretty honest where relationships are concerned. I'm not big on
having a boatload of friendly acquaintances to show off at funeral
time.

In my dealings, everyone knows where they stand with me. It's been my
experience after 71 years on this planet that people either like me or
hate me for it. It's the way I'm wired and I make no apologies for it.

Just remember once I'm dead, the most charitable words of praise won't
bring me back... even if you mean them. It's truly a now or never
proposition where actions speak louder than words.. :-)

Thanks for the heads up, Cavelamb. Live long and prosper.


- Barnyard BOb -

The more people I meet,
the more I like my dog,
and George Carlin humor.

[Barnyard BOb]

On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:33:37 -0500, "Maxwell" >
wrote:

>>
>> Anybody else here want to add some of their personal recollections of
>> what Bill was really like.
>
>What I remember most about Bill is the way he held himself in much higher
>regard than all the second class citizens with less possessions than
>himself. Back in the days when everyone here was more focused on which
>participants here were actual pilots, and then actual aircraft owners, Bill
>was very rude to those less fortunate than himself. He was vocal in his
>opinion that anyone as smart or hard working as himself, could have, should
>have, been just as successful as himself, and that someone else's lack of
>success was a clear indication of laziness, ignorance or poor decision
>making. He would never admit for one minute, how much luck had always
>contributed to his success. Much less consider how many times bad luck was
>the only think that separated him from his less fortunate peers.
>
>Kind of ironic actually. Bills last flight might have been his very first
>experience with real bad luck. I wonder if he would feel the same way today?
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WoW!!!!

MAXWELL...
Have we ever met? :-)



Barnyard BOb

[cavelamb[_2_]]

Most eloquently stated, and completely understood.

Thanks, BOb.

[BobR]

On Apr 24, 9:32*am, Barnyard BOb > wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:16:47 -0500, cavelamb >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >Barnyard BOb wrote:
>
> >> Thank you for this opportunity, BERNIE.
>
> >> With Bil's passing......
> >> I may no longer have to worry about Bill and his lawyer(s)
> >> suing or threatening to sue my ass into the poor house.
>
> >> I wish all that revere Bill could experience my relief and euphoria.
>
> >> * *- Barnyard BOb -
>
> >Not trying to start anything here BOb, but who will feel the same way
> >when you go?
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>
> Although your message rings loud and clear, and is understood...
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * BFD, Mr. Cavelamb. *;-)
>
> I care not what people think and say about me when I'm gone.
> I care how people treat me while I'm alive.. when it counts!
>
> Be aware what people say MAY NOT be what they feel. I can attest that
> at least two people that have spoken reasonably well of BWB here,
> would never state their true feelings... if that's worth in anything.
>
> Bill was a prick once you got to REALLY, REALY know him, IMO.
> I told him so in many apparently successful ways right here in r.a.h.
> It's why Bill sent his lawyer(s) to ruin me. Bill could dish it out
> better than most, but sure as hell couldn't take it....
> at least not from me.
>
> Most folks here either don't know the truth as I see it, are blind to
> it, are just non confrontational or possibly cowardly on the matter.
> Even Bernie hasn't found the cajones to post his real name while
> speaking negatively of Bill. Ditto for Lady Pilot or her imposter.
>
> Can I find nice things to say concerning Bill?
> Some, but...
>
> To Thine Own Self Be True
>
> Yet here, Laertes! Aboard, aboard for shame!
> The wind sits in the shoulder of your sail,
> And you are stay'd for.
> There ... my blessing with thee!
> And these few precepts in thy memory
> Look thou character. Give thy thoughts no tongue,
> Nor any unproportion'd thought his act.
> Be thou familiar, but by no means vulgar.
> Those friends thou hast, and their adoption tried,
> Grapple them to thy soul with hoops of steel;
> But do not dull thy palm with entertainment
> Of each new-hatch'd, unfledg’d comrade. *Beware
> Of entrance to a quarrel but, being in,
> Bear't that th' opposed may beware of thee.
> Give every man thy ear, but few thy voice;
> Take each man's censure, but reserve thy judgement.
> Costly thy habit as thy purse can buy,
> But not express'd in fancy; rich, not gaudy;
> For the apparel oft proclaims the man;
> And they in France of the best rank and station
> Are of a most select and generous chief in that.
> Neither a borrower, nor a lender be;
> For loan oft loses both itself and friend,
> And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry.
> This above all: to thine own self be true,
> And it must follow, as the night the day,
> Thou canst not then be false to any man.
> Farewell; my blessing season this in thee!
>
> * * * * -- William Shakespeare
>
> Over time, Bill sent our relationship over the cliff.
> I am hardly alone. Others have met similar fates.
>
> I'm pretty honest where relationships are concerned. I'm not big on
> having a boatload of friendly acquaintances to show off at funeral
> time.
>
> In my dealings, everyone knows where they stand with me. It's been my
> experience after 71 years on this planet that people either like me or
> hate me for it. It's the way I'm wired and I make no apologies for it.
>
> Just remember once I'm dead, the most charitable words of praise won't
> bring me back... even if you mean them. It's truly a now or never
> proposition where actions speak louder than words.. * :-)
>
> Thanks for the heads up, Cavelamb. Live long and prosper.
>
> * *- Barnyard BOb -
>
> The more people I meet,
> the more I like my dog,
> and George Carlin humor.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

When you are RIGHT, you are Right.

[Maxwell[_10_]]

"Barnyard BOb" > wrote in message
...
>

> WoW!!!!
>
> MAXWELL...
> Have we ever met? :-)
>

Only here, I've been around for a while, just change handles from time to
time.

[Barnyard BOb]

On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:57:36 -0500, "Maxwell" wrote:

>
>"Barnyard BOb" wrote
>>
>
>> WoW!!!!
>>
>> MAXWELL...
>> Have we ever met? :-)
>>
>
>Only here, I've been around for a while, just change handles from time to
>time.
>

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There is a "Maxwell" that traces back via Cox.net to:

Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 11:14:01



Must have been a slow New Year's Eve for you! :-)


- Barnyard BOb -

[Maxwell[_10_]]

"Barnyard BOb" > wrote in message
...
>
>
>
> On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:57:36 -0500, "Maxwell" wrote:
>
>>
>>"Barnyard BOb" wrote
>>>
>>
>>> WoW!!!!
>>>
>>> MAXWELL...
>>> Have we ever met? :-)
>>>
>>
>>Only here, I've been around for a while, just change handles from time to
>>time.
>>
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>
> There is a "Maxwell" that traces back via Cox.net to:
>
> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 11:14:01
>
>
>
> Must have been a slow New Year's Eve for you! :-)
>
>
> - Barnyard BOb -
>

Nope, it's been a lot longer than that.

[Jerry Springer]

Hi John,
Could you send me a email so I can get in touch with you?
Thanks John

Jerry

[John Ammeter]

email sent




Jerry Springer wrote:
> Hi John,
> Could you send me a email so I can get in touch with you?
> Thanks John
>
> Jerry