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Paulwall
June 15th 04, 05:48 AM
Hello everyone.. I'm new to this newsgroup and im sure glad I found
it.. there seems to be a ton of good information here.. My question is
to anyone who is a pilot or knows about this field and can help me go
in the right direction. My father was in the military as a crewcheif
on the C17 and many other cargo planes until he retired.. All my life
I have wanted to be a pilot, but after I graduated highschool I lost
sight of what I wanted to do and been working fulltime and havn't went
into the direction I wanted to be in.. My question to everyone is I
want to know if it is possible to still have a future being a Aviator
for the Air Force or even Air National Guard? I am 22 years old (I
dont think thats to old, but maybe its pushing it just getting
started?) I only have 1 semester of college. From my understanding I
need a bachelor degree.. which I could probally get done in a few
years. I need some advice on what I should start doing right now to
get going where I need to be. thanks in advance!
Paul

Greasy Rider @ invalid.com
June 15th 04, 09:28 AM
On 14 Jun 2004 21:48:16 -0700, (Paulwall) etched
the phosphur particles on my screen with the following:

>Hello everyone.. I'm new to this newsgroup and im sure glad I found
>it.. there seems to be a ton of good information here.. My question is
>to anyone who is a pilot or knows about this field and can help me go
>in the right direction. My father was in the military as a crewcheif
>on the C17 and many other cargo planes until he retired.. All my life
>I have wanted to be a pilot, but after I graduated highschool I lost
>sight of what I wanted to do and been working fulltime and havn't went
>into the direction I wanted to be in.. My question to everyone is I
>want to know if it is possible to still have a future being a Aviator
>for the Air Force or even Air National Guard? I am 22 years old (I
>dont think thats to old, but maybe its pushing it just getting
>started?) I only have 1 semester of college. From my understanding I
>need a bachelor degree.. which I could probally get done in a few
>years. I need some advice on what I should start doing right now to
>get going where I need to be. thanks in advance!
>Paul

Well, my advice would be to get some more education. If your speaking
skills match your writing skills then you should go back to the tenth
grade,

tscottme
June 15th 04, 01:15 PM
Paulwall > wrote in message
om...
> Hello everyone.. I'm new to this newsgroup and im sure glad I found
> it.. there seems to be a ton of good information here.. My question is
> to anyone who is a pilot or knows about this field and can help me go
> in the right direction. My father was in the military as a crewcheif
> on the C17 and many other cargo planes until he retired.. All my life
> I have wanted to be a pilot, but after I graduated highschool I lost
> sight of what I wanted to do and been working fulltime and havn't went
> into the direction I wanted to be in.. My question to everyone is I
> want to know if it is possible to still have a future being a Aviator
> for the Air Force or even Air National Guard? I am 22 years old (I
> dont think thats to old, but maybe its pushing it just getting
> started?) I only have 1 semester of college. From my understanding I
> need a bachelor degree.. which I could probally get done in a few
> years. I need some advice on what I should start doing right now to
> get going where I need to be. thanks in advance!
> Paul

Your first step might be to get a First Class FAA Physical Exam to see
if there is some medically disqualifying condition. Or if you are in
good shape, you might just opt for a very good eye exam, not just a
glance at a wall chart and guess at the letters. When I was in the Navy
Club in college we heard many stories about what was called the "NAMI
Whammy". That meant prospective aviators meeting the basic entry
requirements only to find that the strict physical exam found something
that prevented them getting a flight slot or limited what kind of slot
they could get, say not as a pilot but as a Non-Flying Officer, (WSO or
guy in back). Often the story was a candidate that had been told he had
20/20 by slack civilian doctors only to find that it was almost 20/20 or
however NAMI measures it. If you have some sort of disqualifying
medical condition, better to know that now than after you go on the hook
for a bunch of college debt and have skipped over some civilian flying
opportunities, if there are any these days. I've heard that the vision
requirements have been eased ever so slightly since the days when you
needed vision better than Chuck Yeager to be admitted into the
recruiters office, but since I'm past all that I haven't paid strict
attention.

As for age, I think you have to be able to be admitted and complete OCS
or some part of your training before your 27th birthday. I know when I
was very interested in the early 1990s I was 4 or 5 years older than you
are now and was very close to being able to meet that deadline. I do
remember that the cutoff is being a certain age before some milestone
like graduating OCS or such. They don't set the limit as "must be less
than X years to apply." What may or may not be a problem is finishing
college and getting through the milestone event in time. But nothing is
better than real life motivation to keep you from squeezing 4 years of
college into 6 years of life.

--
Scott
--------
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in August, the terrorists know better than we do that most Europeans
will do nothing - but quickly point to the U.S. and scream "Iraq!" And
they know that the upscale crowds in Athens are far more likely to boo a
democratic America than they are a fascist Syria or theocratic Iran.
Just watch." Victor Davis Hanson

Paulwall
June 15th 04, 03:34 PM
> Well, my advice would be to get some more education. If your speaking
> skills match your writing skills then you should go back to the tenth
> grade,

Wow, thanks for the advice.. I dont remember asking anyone to come
here and bash me. I dont know exactly what it is I wrote that was
wrong.. but i'll just leave it alone.

SteveM8597
June 15th 04, 03:52 PM
>Wow, thanks for the advice.. I dont remember asking anyone to come
>here and bash me. I dont know exactly what it is I wrote that was
>wrong.. but i'll just leave it alone.

Don't worry about it. there seem to be some here whose whole purpose in being
on Usenet is to point out the mistakes that others make. It can be an
interesting but unfriendly place if you let the nitpickers get to you or let
yourself take things personally.

That was great advise about getting an FAA physical. Getting a degree is
important no matter what, military, pilot, or whatever. The Army doesn't
require a four year degree to fly rotary wings. you might wnat to talk to a
recruiter about taking the qualifying tests.

In any case joining the Reserves or Guard while going to college partialy at
Uncle Sam's expense has been a path some have taken. The key is to be in the
best physical condition you can and agressively pursue college.

Steve

Ron
June 15th 04, 08:37 PM
>
>In any case joining the Reserves or Guard while going to college partialy at
>Uncle Sam's expense has been a path some have taken. The key is to be in the
>best physical condition you can and agressively pursue college.
>
>Steve

That would be my advice. I have a friend that was in your position, did not do
that great in college at first, and left for a little bit. He joined the ANG,
got his act together, and is now a full time ANG F-16 pilot.




Ron
PA-31T Cheyenne II
Maharashtra Weather Modification Program
Pune, India

Jack
June 15th 04, 09:54 PM
Greasy Rider @ invalid.com wrote:

> Well, my advice would be to get some more education. If your speaking
> skills match your writing skills then you should go back to the tenth
> grade,

Yo, Greasy: you should end a sentence with a period, not with a comma! Get some
more education, idiot!

Your intended victim may not be like you and me, but that doesn't mean there is
no future for him in aviation. He could always fly helicopters.



Jack

Paulwall
June 16th 04, 05:04 AM
Well I got a few people giving me advice and some that want to be assholes.
Thanks for the help, ill look more into it. Any more advice is appreciated.
Paul



Jack > wrote in message m>...
> Greasy Rider @ invalid.com wrote:
>
> > Well, my advice would be to get some more education. If your speaking
> > skills match your writing skills then you should go back to the tenth
> > grade,
>
> Yo, Greasy: you should end a sentence with a period, not with a comma! Get some
> more education, idiot!
>
> Your intended victim may not be like you and me, but that doesn't mean there is
> no future for him in aviation. He could always fly helicopters.
>
>
>
> Jack

Krztalizer
June 16th 04, 05:29 AM
>
>Your intended victim may not be like you and me, but that doesn't mean there
>is
>no future for him in aviation. He could always fly helicopters.
>

Hey, Jack. Eat me.

Gordon
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