Freedom and Prisons

[Kevin]

Gliderports and Prisons - http://tinyurl.com/cd7sf4

Come to think of it, don't Tehachapi and Avenal have nearby prisons,
too?

Hmmm....

[BT]

Jean NV does too.
Medium Security is closed, Minimum security is open.
Normally they house prison fire fighting teams there during "season".

B

"Kevin" > wrote in message
...
> Gliderports and Prisons - http://tinyurl.com/cd7sf4
>
> Come to think of it, don't Tehachapi and Avenal have nearby prisons,
> too?
>
> Hmmm....

[kizuno]

Yep, a number of us in the West US have noticed this. Both activities
need lots of cheap land (airport) in places where the average person
wouldn't live.

Kemp

On May 4, 9:36*pm, "BT" > wrote:
> Jean NV does too.
> Medium Security is closed, Minimum security is open.
> Normally they house prison fire fighting teams there during "season".
>
> B
>
> "Kevin" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Gliderports and Prisons -http://tinyurl.com/cd7sf4
>
> > Come to think of it, don't Tehachapi and Avenal have nearby prisons,
> > too?
>
> > Hmmm....

[Rick Walters]

At 12:57 05 May 2009, kizuno wrote:
>Yep, a number of us in the West US have noticed this. Both activities
>need lots of cheap land (airport) in places where the average person
>wouldn't live.
>
>Kemp

>> > Come to think of it, don't Tehachapi and Avenal have nearby
prisons,
>> > too?
>>
>> > Hmmm....
>
>

We lost a crosswind runway at Hobbs, NM to a big industrial prison. Pretty
sad
when towns lobby for prisons. The American dream now involves casinos,
pawnshops, and the steady jobs that a prison brings. I should know, I live
in
Nevada. Rant over...

Rick

[BT]

Actually the prison at Jean is "off airport", but under the traffic pattern,
they "the guards" don't like that, but its the glider pattern, we are a
little busy to be dropping contraband into the yard. They hate the
helicopters flying patterns there.
B
"kizuno" > wrote in message
...
Yep, a number of us in the West US have noticed this. Both activities
need lots of cheap land (airport) in places where the average person
wouldn't live.

Kemp

On May 4, 9:36 pm, "BT" > wrote:
> Jean NV does too.
> Medium Security is closed, Minimum security is open.
> Normally they house prison fire fighting teams there during "season".
>
> B
>
> "Kevin" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Gliderports and Prisons -http://tinyurl.com/cd7sf4
>
> > Come to think of it, don't Tehachapi and Avenal have nearby prisons,
> > too?
>
> > Hmmm....

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A few years ago during a group outing from Chicago to John Dupree's
glider operation in Canon City (home of several prisons including a
"supermax") one of our pilots landed a rented SGS 2-33 in a prison
farm field. Neither the local prison officials or John Dupree were
too happy about this at the time. Of course the machine had to be
disassembled under guard. A few pilots there to reposition the
aircraft lamented that our pilot landed at the men's prison and not
the women's facility.


On May 4, 10:16*pm, Kevin > wrote:
> Gliderports and Prisons -http://tinyurl.com/cd7sf4
>
> Come to think of it, don't Tehachapi and Avenal have nearby prisons,
> too?
>
> Hmmm....

[Bob Whelan[_3_]]

BT wrote:
> Actually the prison at Jean is "off airport", but under the traffic pattern,
> they "the guards" don't like that, but its the glider pattern, we are a
> little busy to be dropping contraband into the yard. They hate the
> helicopters flying patterns there.
> B

Add Boulder (CO) and Dalhart (TX)...though Boulder is a municipal
airport near/in town & the prison is the city prison, while Dalhart is
similar to Hobbs in that the (state) pen is on (former?) airport property.

The Boulder city lockup is directly under the glider crosswind pattern
entry, while the at Dalhart the pen is essentially one of the house
thermals. I've been told the Dalhart guards don't like airplanes flying
over (& by extension sailplanes circling) low over it, but I know at
least one of the pen's local employees is friendly to gliders.

Tangential to Rick Walters' (sardonic?) observation, I'll bet a
considerably higher percentage of glider guiders know of the underlying
reason for Alexis de Tocqueville's historic visit to the U.S. than the
public at large. That's by (very) indirect way of agreeing w. R.W. btw...

Regards,
Bob W.

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I spent some weeks flying at Canon City Colorado too and couldn't help
notice the vast prison complexes. The juxtaposition of my activity of
freedom with those grim hell holes was chilling.

[Frank Whiteley]

On May 6, 6:10*am, wrote:
> I spent some weeks flying at Canon City Colorado too and couldn't help
> notice the vast prison complexes. *The juxtaposition of my activity of
> freedom with those grim hell holes was chilling.

Recall the periodic sirens?

Frank Whiteley

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On May 6, 5:10 am, wrote:
> I spent some weeks flying at Canon City Colorado too and couldn't help
> notice the vast prison complexes. The juxtaposition of my activity of
> freedom with those grim hell holes was chilling.

That's exactly how I feel while thermalling over the Avenal prison...

B.

[Robert Gaines[_2_]]

Prisons?
They are just another Gated Community with questionable amenities.
GA

[Barny]

Add Ionia to the list. There's 3 or 4 prisons there, in fact I
enjoyed my first pilot relief over one of them years ago.

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On May 6, 2:15*pm, Robert Gaines >
wrote:
> *Prisons?
> *They are just another Gated Community with questionable amenities.
> *GA

I'm sticking with my story... Grim Hell Holes.

Imagine knowing about soaring and being stuck in one of those prisons
near an airport.