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Ed Wischmeyer
October 15th 03, 02:37 PM
Who has recommendations for inline filters on the air compressor, for
water and other stuff? And sources?

thanks

Ed Wischmeyer

Rich S.
October 15th 03, 02:56 PM
"Ed Wischmeyer" > wrote in message
...
> Who has recommendations for inline filters on the air compressor, for
> water and other stuff? And sources?
>
> thanks
>
> Ed Wischmeyer

Harbor Freight currently has their filter/regulator/lubricator unit #45009
on sale at 50% off ($19.99).
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?function=Search

Rich S.

Rich S.
October 15th 03, 03:00 PM
"Rich S." > wrote in message
...
> "Ed Wischmeyer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Who has recommendations for inline filters on the air compressor, for
> > water and other stuff? And sources?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Ed Wischmeyer
>
> Harbor Freight currently has their filter/regulator/lubricator unit #45009
> on sale at 50% off ($19.99).
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?function=Search
>
> Rich S.

Oops - checked that link and it doesn't work. Sorry. Just go to
http://www.harborfreight.com/ and enter 45009 under the item number search.

Rich S.

Ron Natalie
October 15th 03, 04:18 PM
"Rich S." > wrote in message ...

>
> Harbor Freight currently has their filter/regulator/lubricator unit #45009
> on sale at 50% off ($19.99).
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?function=Search
>
I'd recommend against using any inline lubricators. You're just going to
contaminate things, and a lot of tools which require lubrication are really
picky about what you lubricate them with, so it's better to deal with them
on a item by item basis.

I've got a simple filter/water trap (CH I believe) in my line.

Ed Wischmeyer
October 15th 03, 04:49 PM
> I'd recommend against using any inline lubricators. You're just going to
> contaminate things, and a lot of tools which require lubrication are really
> picky about what you lubricate them with, so it's better to deal with them
> on a item by item basis.
>
> I've got a simple filter/water trap (CH I believe) in my line.

Simple solution is to not put any lubricant into the filter. What is "CH"?

thanks

Ed

Rich S.
October 15th 03, 04:55 PM
"Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> I'd recommend against using any inline lubricators. You're just going to
> contaminate things, and a lot of tools which require lubrication are
really
> picky about what you lubricate them with, so it's better to deal with them
> on a item by item basis.
>
> I've got a simple filter/water trap (CH I believe) in my line.

Agree. You don't need to use the lubricator function of the HF unit (and
probably shouldn't unless it is a dedicated line for one tool. This unit,
though, is so reasonably priced that it beats buying a stand alone
filter/water trap from one of the "big name" manufacturers. Plus- you get
the regulator.

HF also has their automatic compressor tank water drain valve #46960 on sale
for $6.97. That reminds me - it's past time to wheel my compressor outside
and drain the tank. I don't know when that sucker is gonna rust out. It's
thirty years old. I can see coming home from a long weekend and the
compressor has been running all the time I was gone. Either that or the
garage is burned down. d:p

Rich S.

Ron Natalie
October 15th 03, 05:07 PM
"Ed Wischmeyer" > wrote in message ...
> > I'd recommend against using any inline lubricators. You're just going to
> > contaminate things, and a lot of tools which require lubrication are really
> > picky about what you lubricate them with, so it's better to deal with them
> > on a item by item basis.
> >
> > I've got a simple filter/water trap (CH I believe) in my line.
>
> Simple solution is to not put any lubricant into the filter. What is "CH"?
>
Campbell Hausfeld, a maker of inexpensive air compressors and accessories.

David D Cowell
October 15th 03, 05:16 PM
The lubricator does not have a filter. It uses a porous material to atomize
the oil and it will plug up quickly if you try to use it as a filter.
Then why pay extra for a lubricator if you don't need it? Just buy a
filter/water trap and a good regulator.

--
David D Cowell

"Ed Wischmeyer" > wrote in message
...
> > I'd recommend against using any inline lubricators. You're just going
to
> > contaminate things, and a lot of tools which require lubrication are
really
> > picky about what you lubricate them with, so it's better to deal with
them
> > on a item by item basis.
> >
> > I've got a simple filter/water trap (CH I believe) in my line.
>
> Simple solution is to not put any lubricant into the filter. What is "CH"?
>
> thanks
>
> Ed

Rich S.
October 15th 03, 06:28 PM
"David D Cowell" > wrote in message
...
> Then why pay extra for a lubricator if you don't need it? Just buy a
> filter/water trap and a good regulator.

Because the filter/regulator/lubricator is on sale for $19.99, and the
filter/regulator is not and is $39.99.

Did you not bother to look at the referenced catalog listing?

Rich S.
"Money - it's always about money" :o)

Orval Fairbairn
October 15th 03, 06:54 PM
In article >,
Ed Wischmeyer > wrote:

> Who has recommendations for inline filters on the air compressor, for
> water and other stuff? And sources?
>
> thanks

I second the tool lubricator. You definitely need a water filter (sump)
and need to drain the air tank periodically, or it will corrode and can
result in a nasty explosion.

A friend was painting a new RV-8 and was getting fisheye, even though he
had cleaned everything. I suggested that his air supply was contaminated
(it was) and was putting out droplets of oil alnoh with the paint.

He cleaned wverything up and got a nice finish.

Morgans
October 15th 03, 07:30 PM
"Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "Rich S." > wrote in message
...
>
> >
> > Harbor Freight currently has their filter/regulator/lubricator unit
#45009
> > on sale at 50% off ($19.99).
> > http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?function=Search
> >
> I'd recommend against using any inline lubricators. You're just going to
> contaminate things, and a lot of tools which require lubrication are
really
> picky about what you lubricate them with, so it's better to deal with them
> on a item by item basis.
>
> I've got a simple filter/water trap (CH I believe) in my line.
>
>
>
Also, if you air lines are overhead, where ever there is a drop, don't turn
out for the disconnect with an elbow. Put in a tee, and drop a 12 inch
nipple with a draincock. The water that comes down the line, will gather in
the nipple. I would put a filter at each connection.
--
Jim in NC

David D Cowell
October 15th 03, 09:04 PM
Yes, I did look at the listing. Let me restate.......Then why install a
lubricator if you don't need it? Just buy a GOOD filter/water trap and a
GOOD regulator.

--
David D Cowell

"Rich S." > wrote in message
...
> "David D Cowell" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Then why pay extra for a lubricator if you don't need it? Just buy a
> > filter/water trap and a good regulator.
>
> Because the filter/regulator/lubricator is on sale for $19.99, and the
> filter/regulator is not and is $39.99.
>
> Did you not bother to look at the referenced catalog listing?
>
> Rich S.
> "Money - it's always about money" :o)
>
>

Rich S.
October 15th 03, 09:55 PM
"David D Cowell" > wrote in message
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> Yes, I did look at the listing. Let me restate.......Then why install a
> lubricator if you don't need it? Just buy a GOOD filter/water trap and a
> GOOD regulator.

And send the BAD ones to rehab to make them GOOD!

This is getting us nowhere, DD. Whether the recommended items will do the
job is Ed's task to determine - as is whether they are an economical
solution for his particular situation. I am sure that your needs, my needs
and Ed's needs are all different. He was simply looking for recommendations,
which is what I supplied. If you would like to start a new thread as to what
you may need or deem necessary, be my guest.

Rich "'Everybody to their own taste', said Mrs. Murphy as she kissed the
cow." S

Larry Smith
October 16th 03, 01:45 AM
"Ed Wischmeyer" > wrote in message
...
> Who has recommendations for inline filters on the air compressor, for
> water and other stuff? And sources?
>
> thanks
>
> Ed Wischmeyer

I like my filter which uses a roll of toilet tissue. I'll go look at the
name on it. <intermission>

Okay, it's an M-30 from Motor Guard Corporation, Manteca, CA. Pricey but
effective, particularly when painting. Of course you know to cool your air
(thus condensing the water in it) by having a couple of risers in each line
with collectors and valves at the bottom of the loops to drain off water.

I notice they are freeze-drying the compressed air at the Ford Dealer before
it reaches the paint gun. If you're running an air-tool, oil it at the
inlet.

Use a 2-stage compressor too. It runs cooler. Hot air is not good,
especially when compressed because it's usually full of moisture. And
remember Boyle's law of temperature, pressure, and volume of a gas. Well,
YOU would, Ed.

John Stricker
October 16th 03, 02:38 AM
Ed,

I just put a Wix Aquachek in my system. I used the 50 cfm model and got it
at Carquest. $69.95. I can't tell you how well it works since we just put
it in today. They recommend putting a regular water separator ahead of it
to increase filter life, but we're trying it without one.

http://www.aquachekfilters.com/products/faq.asp

Give me a week or so and I'll tell you what I think of it. Replacement
elements are around $30.

John Stricker

"Ed Wischmeyer" > wrote in message
...
> Who has recommendations for inline filters on the air compressor, for
> water and other stuff? And sources?
>
> thanks
>
> Ed Wischmeyer

Holger Stephan
October 16th 03, 06:47 AM
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:56:54 +0000, Rich S. wrote:
> Harbor Freight currently has their filter/regulator/lubricator unit
> #45009 on sale at 50% off ($19.99).
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?function=Search

I bought this particular item earlier this year on sale at HF. It leaked
so I brought it back to exchange it with one that now also leaks, audibly.
This is with only the water filter and regulator in the line.

- Holger

October 19th 03, 03:50 AM
I tried several of the so called water filters/driers without much
success. The problem is the hoses were cooler than the air tank and
the water would condense in the hose.
I decided I needed to cool and condense the water out of the hot air
that comes out of the compressor BEFORE it goes into the tank.
I gutted an old 3 ton air conditioner and left only the fan and the
condenser coil. I connected this between the compressor and the tank
with a self draining water trap at the output of the condenser. The
fan runs only when the compressor is running. It works VERY well. I
can run the compressor for hours and get ZERO water out of the air
lines now. This also removes most of the compressor's oil mist from
the air.
John



On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:37:06 -0700, Ed Wischmeyer
> wrote:

>Who has recommendations for inline filters on the air compressor, for
>water and other stuff? And sources?
>
>thanks
>
>Ed Wischmeyer

Del Rawlins
October 19th 03, 06:12 AM
I have a set of videos on automotive restoraton, and in one of them it
shows a homemade air drier which consists of shop air plumbed into a
coil of copper tubing, which is then placed in a bucket of ice water
followed by a tee fitting with a drain. The cold causes water vapor to
condense to liquid, which can be drained periodically. It seemed to be
a cheap and effective setup for occasional painting or whenever dry air
is required.

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Harry Burns
October 31st 03, 02:58 PM
If you are setting up a paint rig, then the most cost effective working
strategy is going to be a combination filter/regulator unit (called a
"piggyback" in the industry) followed by AT LEAST a coalescing filter unit, in
series. Minimum 5 micron filtration on the piggyback, and 0.01 micron on the
coalescer. That will take care of the oil and dirt. For water, there are a
few good inline desicant-type units that will work with low CFM's. A
refer-dryer is much better, but most start in the $1000 range.

If you're only going to use air tools, then the piggyback unit alone would be
sufficient. I would only add a lube unit if the air line its attached to is
dedicated to tools that require (the same) oil.

The best units on the market are made by Wilkerson, Norgren, and SMC. These
are REAL units that industrial machines use. BUT in your CFM range, they
shouldn't cost any more than the junk that Harbor Freight sells ($20-$50) If
you can't find an industrial pneumatics supplier in your area, try contacting
SEPA (South East Pneumatic Automation) in Atlanta. The owner is a retired
Lockheed engineer.

www.sepaautomation.com

That should do it.
Harry
former pneumatic industrial sales specialist

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