View Full Version : Drive Small VGA screen from PDA
12 volt VGA flat screens technology exists to allow people to view
DVDs in automobiles.
Has anybody installed a small 12v VGA monitor in a glider to display
the PDA Navigation info in a larger format ...
Here is a link for a VGA cable for the dell x50v. You can also buy
just the cable and create your own interfaces to the VGA, GPS, and
power.
http://www.boxwave.com/products/vgapresentationcable/vga-presentation-cable-dell-axim-x50v_446.htm
http://www.gomadic.com/dell-axim-x50-prewired-connector-plug.html#
ContestID67[_2_]
May 16th 09, 01:02 AM
Interesting idea which I had thought about for automotive use. Of
course there is increased power draw but it would be a poor man's
ClearNav. Does only the Dell's provide you VGA out? How about
IPAQs. Thanks.
On May 15, 8:02*pm, ContestID67 > wrote:
> Interesting idea which I had thought about for automotive use. *Of
> course there is increased power draw but it would be a poor man's
> ClearNav. *Does only the Dell's provide you VGA out? *How about
> IPAQs. *Thanks.
A number of PDAs have VGA displays. I just happened to see the VGA
cable advertisement and realized the Dell did not need any other
components to drive a VGA display. I would think the other PDS could
also do this, although I am not sure. I have found a document for the
DELL pin outs, which would allow you to construct a cable with
interfaces to the VGA, GPS and a power source. Yes, sticking together
a bunch of off-the-shelf components does look like a poor-man
solution, but more like the Craggy Aero design approach. I understand
the ClearNav design focused on ergonomics and NK designed all new
hardware and software components to achieve this goal The price of
both systems is very close, however, and much higher then this poor-
man approach would cost - if it worked. It's hard to believe someone
has not experimented with this already.
Here is the Dell pin out map. Look at the bottom of the page.
http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX50Hardware
On May 15, 8:13*pm, wrote:
> On May 15, 8:02*pm, ContestID67 > wrote:
>
> > Interesting idea which I had thought about for automotive use. *Of
> > course there is increased power draw but it would be a poor man's
> > ClearNav. *Does only the Dell's provide you VGA out? *How about
> > IPAQs. *Thanks.
>
> A number of PDAs have VGA displays. I just happened to see the VGA
> cable advertisement and realized the Dell did not need any other
> components to drive a VGA display. I would think the other PDS could
> also do this, although I am not sure. I have found a document for the
> DELL pin outs, which would allow you to construct a cable with
> interfaces to the VGA, GPS and a power source. Yes, sticking together
> a bunch of off-the-shelf components does look like a poor-man
> solution, but more like the Craggy Aero design approach. I understand
> the ClearNav design focused on ergonomics and NK designed all new
> hardware and software components to achieve this goal The price of
> both systems is very close, however, and much higher then this poor-
> man approach would cost - if it worked. It's hard to believe someone
> has not experimented with this already.
>
> Here is the Dell pin out map. Look at the bottom of the page.http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX50Hardware
I'm waiting for someone to build one of these based on an OLED
display. They appear to be much brighter and far lower in power
consumption than LCDs, plus incredibly thin. The expectation is they
will be cheaper to produce than LCDs in volume - eventually.
On May 15, 8:13*pm, wrote:
> On May 15, 8:02*pm, ContestID67 > wrote:
>
> > Interesting idea which I had thought about for automotive use. *Of
> > course there is increased power draw but it would be a poor man's
> > ClearNav. *Does only the Dell's provide you VGA out? *How about
> > IPAQs. *Thanks.
>
> A number of PDAs have VGA displays. I just happened to see the VGA
> cable advertisement and realized the Dell did not need any other
> components to drive a VGA display. I would think the other PDS could
> also do this, although I am not sure. I have found a document for the
> DELL pin outs, which would allow you to construct a cable with
> interfaces to the VGA, GPS and a power source. Yes, sticking together
> a bunch of off-the-shelf components does look like a poor-man
> solution, but more like the Craggy Aero design approach. I understand
> the ClearNav design focused on ergonomics and NK designed all new
> hardware and software components to achieve this goal The price of
> both systems is very close, however, and much higher then this poor-
> man approach would cost - if it worked. It's hard to believe someone
> has not experimented with this already.
>
> Here is the Dell pin out map. Look at the bottom of the page.http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX50Hardware
Actuall the Craggy Aero Design focused on performance and value to the
customer. It has 1" larger on the diagonal screen, 3 to 4 times the
processor speed, 4 times more resolution 640X480 , State of the art
Software SeeYou Mobile or WinPilot and a very erogonomic hand held
ball track mouse. No messy boards on the back and $300 less than a
Clear Nav.
Richard
www.craggyaero.com
On May 16, 2:00*pm, wrote:
> On May 15, 8:13*pm, wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 15, 8:02*pm, ContestID67 > wrote:
>
> > > Interesting idea which I had thought about for automotive use. *Of
> > > course there is increased power draw but it would be a poor man's
> > > ClearNav. *Does only the Dell's provide you VGA out? *How about
> > > IPAQs. *Thanks.
>
> > A number of PDAs have VGA displays. I just happened to see the VGA
> > cable advertisement and realized the Dell did not need any other
> > components to drive a VGA display. I would think the other PDS could
> > also do this, although I am not sure. I have found a document for the
> > DELL pin outs, which would allow you to construct a cable with
> > interfaces to the VGA, GPS and a power source. Yes, sticking together
> > a bunch of off-the-shelf components does look like a poor-man
> > solution, but more like the Craggy Aero design approach. I understand
> > the ClearNav design focused on ergonomics and NK designed all new
> > hardware and software components to achieve this goal The price of
> > both systems is very close, however, and much higher then this poor-
> > man approach would cost - if it worked. It's hard to believe someone
> > has not experimented with this already.
>
> > Here is the Dell pin out map. Look at the bottom of the page.http://www..handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX50Hardware
>
> Actuall the Craggy Aero Design focused on performance and value to the
> customer. *It has 1" larger on the diagonal screen, 3 to 4 times the
> processor speed, 4 times more resolution 640X480 , State of the art
> Software SeeYou Mobile or WinPilot and a very erogonomic hand held
> ball track mouse. No messy boards on the back and $300 less than a
> Clear Nav.
>
> Richardwww.craggyaero.com
hmmm ... ok, so looking at the mix of off the shelf components, how
come it is only 300 less ... shouldn't it be half the cost of a
ClearNav? Or is the difference reflective of a higher mark-up?
P Ilatus[_1_]
May 16th 09, 09:45 PM
has anyone tried Flyjacket?
P Ilatus[_1_]
May 16th 09, 10:00 PM
has anyone tried Flyjacket?
Eric Greenwell
May 16th 09, 10:04 PM
wrote:
>>> Here is the Dell pin out map. Look at the bottom of the page.http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX50Hardware
>> Actuall the Craggy Aero Design focused on performance and value to the
>> customer. It has 1" larger on the diagonal screen, 3 to 4 times the
>> processor speed, 4 times more resolution 640X480 , State of the art
>> Software SeeYou Mobile or WinPilot and a very erogonomic hand held
>> ball track mouse. No messy boards on the back and $300 less than a
>> Clear Nav.
>>
>> Richardwww.craggyaero.com
>
> hmmm ... ok, so looking at the mix of off the shelf components, how
> come it is only 300 less ... shouldn't it be half the cost of a
> ClearNav? Or is the difference reflective of a higher mark-up?
It sounds like you are confusing production cost (labor and component
cost) with selling price, which is usually set by market considerations,
not per unit cost. I doubt anyone selects their next soaring instrument
based size of the markup!
The price it "should" be is up to the seller. Why not ask NK if their
price "shouldn't" be twice the cost of the Ultimate?
Personally, I'm hoping Richard has a huge markup on the Ultimate,
because that will encourage others to enter the market with better or
cheaper units.
--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
* Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
* "Transponders in Sailplanes" http://tinyurl.com/y739x4
* Sections on Mode S, TPAS, ADS-B, Flarm, more
* "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" at www.motorglider.org
sisu1a
May 16th 09, 11:10 PM
> hmmm ... ok, so looking at the mix of off the shelf components, how
> come it is only 300 less ... shouldn't it be half the cost of a
> ClearNav? Or is the difference reflective of a higher mark-up?
From what I understand, they both use basically 'off shelf'
components... ClearNav's are in custom molded plastic shells and
Craggy Ultimate's are in custom anodized aluminum shells... ClearNav
runs a hopped up version Glidenav II (GlideNav III?) where Craggy runs
SeeYou Mobile or WinPilot, neither of which are exactly slouchy.
ClearNav is soon to have a vario to go with it and is also expecting
it's logger to receive IGC approval though, which will greatly improve
it's cost effectiveness however. Not sure about Richard's plans in
this dept, but I think SeeYou is working out a Craggy specific version
for it... Richard?
-Paul
On May 16, 6:10*pm, sisu1a > wrote:
> *> hmmm ... ok, so looking at the mix of off the shelf components, how
>
> > come it is only 300 less ... shouldn't it be half the cost of a
> > ClearNav? Or is the difference reflective of a higher mark-up?
>
> From what I understand, they both use basically 'off shelf'
> components... *ClearNav's are in custom molded plastic shells and
> Craggy Ultimate's are in custom anodized aluminum shells... *ClearNav
> runs a hopped up version Glidenav II (GlideNav III?) where Craggy runs
> SeeYou Mobile or WinPilot, neither of which are exactly slouchy.
> ClearNav is soon to have a vario to go with it and is also expecting
> it's logger to receive IGC approval though, which will greatly improve
> it's cost effectiveness however. Not sure about Richard's plans in
> this dept, but I think SeeYou is working out a Craggy specific version
> for it... * Richard?
>
> -Paul
Are the ClearNav and Ultimate seen as just slightly different design
solutions for the same problem? I thought the ClearNav had some Nav/
Display features that gave pilots a competitive advantage ... i.e.
other then a larger display. If you go to a contest, will you see any
of the national level pilots using one of these. Any preference for
one over the other?
sisu1a
May 17th 09, 06:09 AM
> Are the ClearNav and Ultimate seen as just slightly different design
> solutions for the same problem? *I thought the ClearNav had some Nav/
> Display features that gave pilots a competitive advantage ... i.e.
> other then a larger display. *If you go to a contest, will you see any
> of the national level pilots using one of these. Any preference for
> one over the other?
I think the 'glide amoeba' function is the biggest tactical display
difference that ClearNav uses. Instead of concentric circles for where
you can/can't reach from your current position, based on your user set
L/D & altitude margins and skewed for wind, it also takes specifically
into account high/low terrain, making them more amoeba-ish in shape
than circular, which could indeed be highly useful when flying in/
around places with peaks/valleys since it will show you routes through
gaps and notches that the normal circles could lead you to believe you
just can't make it through since those I believe are based on the
highest point of terrain within the circle (?). I can see that being
an advantage, but I have neither system and there are some pretty
respectable pilots running both of systems, so I can't be of much help
in that dept... I believe ClearNav's version of GlideNav also has user
selectable sizes for the navbox infos as well.
-Paul
On May 16, 5:04*pm, Eric Greenwell > wrote:
> wrote:
> >>> Here is the Dell pin out map. Look at the bottom of the page.http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX50Hardware
> >> Actuall the Craggy Aero Design focused on performance and value to the
> >> customer. *It has 1" larger on the diagonal screen, 3 to 4 times the
> >> processor speed, 4 times more resolution 640X480 , State of the art
> >> Software SeeYou Mobile or WinPilot and a very erogonomic hand held
> >> ball track mouse. No messy boards on the back and $300 less than a
> >> Clear Nav.
>
> >> Richardwww.craggyaero.com
>
> > hmmm ... ok, so looking at the mix of off the shelf components, how
> > come it is only 300 less ... shouldn't it be half the cost of a
> > ClearNav? Or is the difference reflective of a higher mark-up?
>
> It sounds like you are confusing production cost (labor and component
> cost) with selling price, which is usually set by market considerations,
> not per unit cost. *I doubt anyone selects their next soaring instrument
> based size of the markup!
>
> The price it "should" be is up to the seller. Why not ask NK if their
> price "shouldn't" be twice the cost of the Ultimate?
>
> Personally, I'm hoping Richard has a huge markup on the Ultimate,
> because that will encourage others to enter the market with better or
> cheaper units.
>
> --
> Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
> * Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
>
> * "Transponders in Sailplanes"http://tinyurl.com/y739x4
> * * * Sections on Mode S, TPAS, ADS-B, Flarm, more
>
> * "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" atwww.motorglider.org
Eric,
Yes, I think you are correct here; I did stray into marketing strategy
- but my real focus was on understanding component/development costs.
And yes again, we do not buy instruments based on markup - although
many of us do seem to buy wing tape based on that consideration ...;-)
On May 16, 12:18*pm, wrote:
> On May 16, 2:00*pm, wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 15, 8:13*pm, wrote:
>
> > > On May 15, 8:02*pm, ContestID67 > wrote:
>
> > > > Interesting idea which I had thought about for automotive use. *Of
> > > > course there is increased power draw but it would be a poor man's
> > > > ClearNav. *Does only the Dell's provide you VGA out? *How about
> > > > IPAQs. *Thanks.
>
> > > A number of PDAs have VGA displays. I just happened to see the VGA
> > > cable advertisement and realized the Dell did not need any other
> > > components to drive a VGA display. I would think the other PDS could
> > > also do this, although I am not sure. I have found a document for the
> > > DELL pin outs, which would allow you to construct a cable with
> > > interfaces to the VGA, GPS and a power source. Yes, sticking together
> > > a bunch of off-the-shelf components does look like a poor-man
> > > solution, but more like the Craggy Aero design approach. I understand
> > > the ClearNav design focused on ergonomics and NK designed all new
> > > hardware and software components to achieve this goal The price of
> > > both systems is very close, however, and much higher then this poor-
> > > man approach would cost - if it worked. It's hard to believe someone
> > > has not experimented with this already.
>
> > > Here is the Dell pin out map. Look at the bottom of the page.http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX50Hardware
>
> > Actuall the Craggy Aero Design focused on performance and value to the
> > customer. *It has 1" larger on the diagonal screen, 3 to 4 times the
> > processor speed, 4 times more resolution 640X480 , State of the art
> > Software SeeYou Mobile or WinPilot and a very erogonomic hand held
> > ball track mouse. No messy boards on the back and $300 less than a
> > Clear Nav.
>
> > Richardwww.craggyaero.com
>
> hmmm ... ok, so looking at the mix of off the shelf components, how
> come it is only 300 less ... shouldn't it be half the cost of a
> ClearNav? Or is the difference reflective of a higher mark-up?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Jim,
If you look at the mix of components: Tthe Craggy Aero Ultimate has 4
times more screen resolution that the ClearNav, three to 4 times
better faster processor, a larger screen, a brighter screen and state
of the art fully developed software. So it should cost more that the
ClearNav but as I said before it is $300 less.
Richard
www.craggyaero.com
On May 16, 10:09*pm, sisu1a > wrote:
> > Are the ClearNav and Ultimate seen as just slightly different design
> > solutions for the same problem? *I thought the ClearNav had some Nav/
> > Display features that gave pilots a competitive advantage ... i.e.
> > other then a larger display. *If you go to a contest, will you see any
> > of the national level pilots using one of these. Any preference for
> > one over the other?
>
> I think the 'glide amoeba' function is the biggest tactical display
> difference that ClearNav uses. Instead of concentric circles for where
> you can/can't reach from your current position, based on your user set
> L/D & altitude margins and skewed for wind, it also takes specifically
> into account high/low terrain, making them more amoeba-ish in shape
> than circular, which could indeed be highly useful when flying in/
> around places with peaks/valleys since it will show you routes through
> gaps and notches that the normal circles could lead you to believe you
> just can't make it through since those I believe are based on the
> highest point of terrain within the circle (?). I can see that being
> an advantage, but I have neither system and there are some pretty
> respectable pilots running both of systems, so I can't be of much help
> in that dept... I believe ClearNav's version of GlideNav also has user
> selectable sizes for the navbox infos as well.
>
> -Paul
Fonts in both WinPilot and SeeYouMobile can be selected by the User.
Not only in the Nav Boxes but almost any font in the program.
Richard
www.craggyaero.com
On May 17, 9:42*am, wrote:
> On May 16, 12:18*pm, wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 16, 2:00*pm, wrote:
>
> > > On May 15, 8:13*pm, wrote:
>
> > > > On May 15, 8:02*pm, ContestID67 > wrote:
>
> > > > > Interesting idea which I had thought about for automotive use. *Of
> > > > > course there is increased power draw but it would be a poor man's
> > > > > ClearNav. *Does only the Dell's provide you VGA out? *How about
> > > > > IPAQs. *Thanks.
>
> > > > A number of PDAs have VGA displays. I just happened to see the VGA
> > > > cable advertisement and realized the Dell did not need any other
> > > > components to drive a VGA display. I would think the other PDS could
> > > > also do this, although I am not sure. I have found a document for the
> > > > DELL pin outs, which would allow you to construct a cable with
> > > > interfaces to the VGA, GPS and a power source. Yes, sticking together
> > > > a bunch of off-the-shelf components does look like a poor-man
> > > > solution, but more like the Craggy Aero design approach. I understand
> > > > the ClearNav design focused on ergonomics and NK designed all new
> > > > hardware and software components to achieve this goal The price of
> > > > both systems is very close, however, and much higher then this poor-
> > > > man approach would cost - if it worked. It's hard to believe someone
> > > > has not experimented with this already.
>
> > > > Here is the Dell pin out map. Look at the bottom of the page.http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX50Hardware
>
> > > Actuall the Craggy Aero Design focused on performance and value to the
> > > customer. *It has 1" larger on the diagonal screen, 3 to 4 times the
> > > processor speed, 4 times more resolution 640X480 , State of the art
> > > Software SeeYou Mobile or WinPilot and a very erogonomic hand held
> > > ball track mouse. No messy boards on the back and $300 less than a
> > > Clear Nav.
>
> > > Richardwww.craggyaero.com
>
> > hmmm ... ok, so looking at the mix of off the shelf components, how
> > come it is only 300 less ... shouldn't it be half the cost of a
> > ClearNav? Or is the difference reflective of a higher mark-up?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Jim,
>
> If you look at the mix of components: Tthe Craggy Aero Ultimate has 4
> times more screen resolution that the ClearNav, *three to 4 times
> better faster processor, a larger screen, a brighter screen and state
> of the art fully developed software. * So it should cost more that the
> ClearNav but as I said before it is $300 less.
>
> Richardwww.craggyaero.com
and 1000x more self promotion.
bildan
May 17th 09, 03:43 PM
On May 17, 8:06*am, wrote:
> On May 17, 9:42*am, wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 16, 12:18*pm, wrote:
>
> > > On May 16, 2:00*pm, wrote:
>
> > > > On May 15, 8:13*pm, wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 15, 8:02*pm, ContestID67 > wrote:
>
> > > > > > Interesting idea which I had thought about for automotive use. *Of
> > > > > > course there is increased power draw but it would be a poor man's
> > > > > > ClearNav. *Does only the Dell's provide you VGA out? *How about
> > > > > > IPAQs. *Thanks.
>
> > > > > A number of PDAs have VGA displays. I just happened to see the VGA
> > > > > cable advertisement and realized the Dell did not need any other
> > > > > components to drive a VGA display. I would think the other PDS could
> > > > > also do this, although I am not sure. I have found a document for the
> > > > > DELL pin outs, which would allow you to construct a cable with
> > > > > interfaces to the VGA, GPS and a power source. Yes, sticking together
> > > > > a bunch of off-the-shelf components does look like a poor-man
> > > > > solution, but more like the Craggy Aero design approach. I understand
> > > > > the ClearNav design focused on ergonomics and NK designed all new
> > > > > hardware and software components to achieve this goal The price of
> > > > > both systems is very close, however, and much higher then this poor-
> > > > > man approach would cost - if it worked. It's hard to believe someone
> > > > > has not experimented with this already.
>
> > > > > Here is the Dell pin out map. Look at the bottom of the page.http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX50Hardware
>
> > > > Actuall the Craggy Aero Design focused on performance and value to the
> > > > customer. *It has 1" larger on the diagonal screen, 3 to 4 times the
> > > > processor speed, 4 times more resolution 640X480 , State of the art
> > > > Software SeeYou Mobile or WinPilot and a very erogonomic hand held
> > > > ball track mouse. No messy boards on the back and $300 less than a
> > > > Clear Nav.
>
> > > > Richardwww.craggyaero.com
>
> > > hmmm ... ok, so looking at the mix of off the shelf components, how
> > > come it is only 300 less ... shouldn't it be half the cost of a
> > > ClearNav? Or is the difference reflective of a higher mark-up?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Jim,
>
> > If you look at the mix of components: Tthe Craggy Aero Ultimate has 4
> > times more screen resolution that the ClearNav, *three to 4 times
> > better faster processor, a larger screen, a brighter screen and state
> > of the art fully developed software. * So it should cost more that the
> > ClearNav but as I said before it is $300 less.
>
> > Richardwww.craggyaero.com
>
> and 1000x more self promotion.
If the "amoeba" is the big thing, then GPS_Log has it for free and it
comes with both a WinCE and a 32 bit windows version. I'm thinking
of running the 32bit version on a Via Pico ITC motherboard and a 7"
LED backlit LCD.
Jack[_12_]
May 17th 09, 06:39 PM
wrote:
> and 1000x more self promotion.
Self-referential.
Jack
Ed Winchester[_2_]
May 18th 09, 11:46 PM
bildan wrote:
> On May 17, 8:06 am, wrote:
>> On May 17, 9:42 am, wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On May 16, 12:18 pm, wrote:
>>>> On May 16, 2:00 pm, wrote:
>>>>> On May 15, 8:13 pm, wrote:
>>>>>> On May 15, 8:02 pm, ContestID67 > wrote:
>>>>>>> Interesting idea which I had thought about for automotive use. Of
>>>>>>> course there is increased power draw but it would be a poor man's
>>>>>>> ClearNav. Does only the Dell's provide you VGA out? How about
>>>>>>> IPAQs. Thanks.
>>>>>> A number of PDAs have VGA displays. I just happened to see the VGA
>>>>>> cable advertisement and realized the Dell did not need any other
>>>>>> components to drive a VGA display. I would think the other PDS could
>>>>>> also do this, although I am not sure. I have found a document for the
>>>>>> DELL pin outs, which would allow you to construct a cable with
>>>>>> interfaces to the VGA, GPS and a power source. Yes, sticking together
>>>>>> a bunch of off-the-shelf components does look like a poor-man
>>>>>> solution, but more like the Craggy Aero design approach. I understand
>>>>>> the ClearNav design focused on ergonomics and NK designed all new
>>>>>> hardware and software components to achieve this goal The price of
>>>>>> both systems is very close, however, and much higher then this poor-
>>>>>> man approach would cost - if it worked. It's hard to believe someone
>>>>>> has not experimented with this already.
>>>>>> Here is the Dell pin out map. Look at the bottom of the page.http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX50Hardware
>>>>> Actuall the Craggy Aero Design focused on performance and value to the
>>>>> customer. It has 1" larger on the diagonal screen, 3 to 4 times the
>>>>> processor speed, 4 times more resolution 640X480 , State of the art
>>>>> Software SeeYou Mobile or WinPilot and a very erogonomic hand held
>>>>> ball track mouse. No messy boards on the back and $300 less than a
>>>>> Clear Nav.
>>>>> Richardwww.craggyaero.com
>>>> hmmm ... ok, so looking at the mix of off the shelf components, how
>>>> come it is only 300 less ... shouldn't it be half the cost of a
>>>> ClearNav? Or is the difference reflective of a higher mark-up?- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> Jim,
>>> If you look at the mix of components: Tthe Craggy Aero Ultimate has 4
>>> times more screen resolution that the ClearNav, three to 4 times
>>> better faster processor, a larger screen, a brighter screen and state
>>> of the art fully developed software. So it should cost more that the
>>> ClearNav but as I said before it is $300 less.
>>> Richardwww.craggyaero.com
>> and 1000x more self promotion.
>
> If the "amoeba" is the big thing, then GPS_Log has it for free and it
> comes with both a WinCE and a 32 bit windows version. I'm thinking
> of running the 32bit version on a Via Pico ITC motherboard and a 7"
> LED backlit LCD.
XCSoar has the same thing, as well. And it works, I tested it
yesterday. Oh, and it's free for most any auto nav device or pda. Or
PC for that matter, even your homebrewed Via Pico computer.
Fish[_3_]
May 20th 09, 11:46 AM
If you want quality, in a product specifically designed to run
XCSoar, look at www.triadis.ch for the Altair,
or on my site www.swiftavionics.com.au
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