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May 20th 09, 03:30 AM
Cumlus Soaring in the past sold Peeto pants to facilitate airborne
relief. The last time I ask he had dicontinued the item. Did the
pilots who purchased them like the pants? Is there a place to buy
them now?

Bll Snead

Tuno
May 20th 09, 04:16 AM
I own a pair and use them on hot sunny days. I would have designed the
fly zipper a bit differently (the left-to-right orientation interferes
with the parachute leg straps) but otherwise I like them.

Sorry, don't know where you can get them now ...

~ted/2NO

Darryl Ramm
May 20th 09, 05:44 AM
On May 19, 7:30*pm, " > wrote:
> Cumlus Soaring in the past sold Peeto pants to facilitate airborne
> relief. *The last time I ask he had dicontinued the item. *Did the
> pilots who purchased them like the pants? *Is there a place to buy
> them now?
>
> Bll Snead

The manufacturer's web site is at http://www.reliefwear.com and you
can order form there or they can hook you up with anotehr reseller.

Personally I've never seen the point. Lightweight cargo pants like the
North Face Paramount work fine for me. The fly zipper gives all the
access needed for connecting a catheter to a pee tube. The front cargo
pockets are very accessible in flight. And you don't look like a dork
walking around in them :-)


Darryl

309
May 20th 09, 07:01 AM
I've found the Peeto pants to work well, a little better than the
cargo pants.

The pockets are also oriented for more easy access from a
"declining" (seated) position.

As Kemp put it so very well in a BITS presentation pitch, the most
cost effective performance improvement you can make to your glider is
a relief tube. Handy access to the "tube" is part of the relief
process. I also used these back when I was towing banners in Bellanca
Scouts (a less reclined seating position, and no relief tube -- so
quart or gallon zip lock bags held "excess ballast") -- some of those
flights approached 6.5 hours...all at 2 knots above stall...

When I visited the link to Relief Wear, sadly they're not in
production anymore (I would've entertained buying a second pair...).

-Pete
#309

John Dezzutti[_3_]
May 20th 09, 11:45 AM
The pants were made by Kevin Booker who used to fly with the Post Mills
club. There was a photo of him modeling his pants in the April issue of
AOPA pilot.

I wish I had purchased a second pair.

Maybe if enough of us asked him Kevin would go back into production.

John Smith
May 20th 09, 12:15 PM
I asked my girl friend to insert an appropriate zipper into my favorite
pilot pants. Cheaper than a commercial solution (for me), more work than
a commercial solution (for her), and custom tailored to my personal idea
of comfort.

Nyal Williams[_2_]
May 20th 09, 01:30 PM
I found them to be too thin and chilly on all except the hottest days here
in Indiana. Two of us in our club got a pair and neither of us rarely use
them.


At 03:16 20 May 2009, Tuno wrote:
>I own a pair and use them on hot sunny days. I would have designed the
>fly zipper a bit differently (the left-to-right orientation interferes
>with the parachute leg straps) but otherwise I like them.
>
>Sorry, don't know where you can get them now ...
>
>~ted/2NO
>

Martin Gregorie[_5_]
May 20th 09, 01:40 PM
On Wed, 20 May 2009 12:30:04 +0000, Nyal Williams wrote:

> I found them to be too thin and chilly on all except the hottest days
> here in Indiana. Two of us in our club got a pair and neither of us
> rarely use them.
>
<picky mode>
Ah, so you wear them all the time? They must be really good!
</picky mode>



--
martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

Curt[_2_]
May 20th 09, 03:17 PM
I love this! ... I agree completely :)
"the most cost effective performance improvement you can make to your
glider is a relief tube."

Curt - 95

On May 20, 1:01*am, 309 > wrote:
>
> As Kemp put it so very well in a BITS presentation pitch, the most
> cost effective performance improvement you can make to your glider is
> a relief tube.
>
>
> -Pete
> #309

rhwoody
May 20th 09, 05:38 PM
On May 19, 8:30�pm, " > wrote:
> Cumlus Soaring in the past sold Peeto pants to facilitate airborne
> relief. �The last time I ask he had dicontinued the item. �Did the
> pilots who purchased them like the pants? �Is there a place to buy
> them now?
>
> Bll Snead

I bought 2 pair for friends in Germany a few years ago - they are
very happy with them - and I would buy a pair for myself if they
ever become available again -

May 20th 09, 07:01 PM
> <picky mode>
> Ah, so you wear them all the time? They must be really good!
> </picky mode>
>
> --
> martin@ * | Martin Gregorie
> gregorie. | Essex, UK
> org * * * |

Martin, Martin... (shaking head)

In the immortal words of Sir Winston Churchill, "The United States and
the United Kingdom... two countries separated by a common language".

Have pity upon the rebellious cousins!

Martin Gregorie[_5_]
May 20th 09, 07:37 PM
On Wed, 20 May 2009 11:01:44 -0700, johnbrake wrote:

> Have pity upon the rebellious cousins!
>
'tis nothing to do with two nations separated by language, etc.

In any dialect of English a double negation cancels itself out. My
teachers taught me that was a grammatical crime long before I moved to
the UK and I bet American teachers would say exactly the same.


--
martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

Albert Gold[_3_]
May 20th 09, 10:44 PM
The most recent issue of AOPA Pilot magazine has an article on the Post
Mills, VT airport including an item on Peeto pants complete with picture
of the maker in his glider. Perhaps you should try to contact him directly.

Al

wrote:
> Cumlus Soaring in the past sold Peeto pants to facilitate airborne
> relief. The last time I ask he had dicontinued the item. Did the
> pilots who purchased them like the pants? Is there a place to buy
> them now?
>
> Bll Snead

Fred Blair
May 20th 09, 11:47 PM
My wife took some light weight pants that I use for fly fishing and put
snaps into the crotch. So, when I get in, I just unsnap some, fix the
catheter and go fly. Get home and re-do the snaps.
Fred
LF-Libelle 301b
"Curt" > wrote in message
...
I love this! ... I agree completely :)
"the most cost effective performance improvement you can make to your
glider is a relief tube."

Curt - 95

On May 20, 1:01 am, 309 > wrote:
>
> As Kemp put it so very well in a BITS presentation pitch, the most
> cost effective performance improvement you can make to your glider is
> a relief tube.
>
>
> -Pete
> #309

John Smith
May 21st 09, 12:28 AM
Fred Blair wrote:

> and put snaps into the crotch.

Handy, but didn't it hurt?

May 21st 09, 12:47 AM
On May 20, 2:01*pm, wrote:
> > <picky mode>
> > Ah, so you wear them all the time? They must be really good!
> > </picky mode>
>
> > --
> > martin@ * | Martin Gregorie
> > gregorie. | Essex, UK
> > org * * * |
>
> Martin, Martin... *(shaking head)
>
> In the immortal words of Sir Winston Churchill, "The United States and
> the United Kingdom... two countries separated by a common language".
>
> Have pity upon the rebellious cousins!

British and American styles may differ, but there's no excuse for poor
grammar.

Double negatives abound. But double positives?

Yeah, right.

Peter[_4_]
May 21st 09, 10:59 PM
I use them. They work pretty good, although a wee bit flimsy. Their website
is still up. PeterK
http://www.reliefwear.com/index.htm
> wrote in message
...
> Cumlus Soaring in the past sold Peeto pants to facilitate airborne
> relief. The last time I ask he had dicontinued the item. Did the
> pilots who purchased them like the pants? Is there a place to buy
> them now?
>
> Bll Snead

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