GNII Max Alt warning

[Andy[_1_]]

As implemented in the latest version the maximum value of Max Altitude
is limited to 15,000ft which is not useful in SW USA. It should be
obvious to anyone that the limit should be setable at least as high as
18,000ft. In fact there is no reason for any hard limit at all as the
pilot may fly in a wave window.

Anyone using GNII at R9 Parowan should be sure to turn off this
warning. Not only is the warning useless it takes up screen area and
prevents access to the normal user interface until the glider descends
below 15,000 ft.

I nearly threw the damn thing out of the window while flying above
15,000 ft at Springerville, AZ last weekend.

Perhaps if enough users complain about this there just might be a new
release with a fix. I tried hard to get it changed several years ago
but was ignored.

Andy

[Tuno]

When was the last time GNII was updated? It also has SUA processing
bugs I'd like to see fixed. I have a GNII-specific hack in the
justsoar.com ware that users have to opt into. I would sure like to
get rid of that hack!

2NO

[Paul Remde]

Hi,

Glide Navigator II can be used to any altitude. If you go to Menu 2, and
press the "SUA Warnings" button you will see the "Max Altitude" check box.
If it is not checked then there is no limit or warning at any altitude. If
it is checked you can set the maximum altitude using the "Set" button.
Unfortunately, the maximum value allowed is 15000 feet. I don't know why,
but I don't have any way to change that right now. Again, as long as it is
not enabled, there is no warning or limit.

I am currently looking for a good soaring pilot / software programmer that
can help me move Glide Navigator II from the antique compiler used in the
past to a current compiler. It is my understanding that a lot of work is
required to do that. Once that is done it will be much easier to get small
improvements made. It would then also run well on iPAQ hx4700 and 210 PDAs.
It may even be possible in the long run to make it work on an iPAQ 310 and
Bendix King AV8OR and other PNAs. But those are long term goals only at
this point. Please contact me if you are a software programmer looking for
a low paying (share of profit) job working on GN II.

However, GN II is still a very popular soaring program as it is right now.
It is not a dead product. I support it well in its current form. It
doesn't have all the advanced features of other products, but it is well
liked for its simplicity and high contrast display of information.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"Andy" > wrote in message
...
> As implemented in the latest version the maximum value of Max Altitude
> is limited to 15,000ft which is not useful in SW USA. It should be
> obvious to anyone that the limit should be setable at least as high as
> 18,000ft. In fact there is no reason for any hard limit at all as the
> pilot may fly in a wave window.
>
> Anyone using GNII at R9 Parowan should be sure to turn off this
> warning. Not only is the warning useless it takes up screen area and
> prevents access to the normal user interface until the glider descends
> below 15,000 ft.
>
> I nearly threw the damn thing out of the window while flying above
> 15,000 ft at Springerville, AZ last weekend.
>
> Perhaps if enough users complain about this there just might be a new
> release with a fix. I tried hard to get it changed several years ago
> but was ignored.
>
> Andy

[Andy[_1_]]

On Jun 16, 7:32*am, "Paul Remde" > wrote:

> I am currently looking for a good soaring pilot / software programmer that
> can help me move Glide Navigator II from the antique compiler used in the
> past to a current compiler. *


I understand that a current compiler may be required to develop GNII
for more recent operating systems and hardware platforms but it is not
required for making minor changes to the code being run on current
operating systems and platforms.

Why can't the antique complier be run on an antique computer and the
constant "15000" be changed to 50000?

I still have a DOS based 80286 machine. If that is antique enough
send me the source code, the compiler, and a copy of the compiler
documentation. I don't even need you to put the files on 5 1/4 inch
discs as I can transfer them with my antique parallel interface ZIP
drive.

Andy

[Paul Remde]

Hi Andy,

The problem is that the old compiler is no longer available as far as I can
tell. And when I had it years ago, the process for creating the files was
not straightforward. There were some compiler options to set. It is not a
simple or straightforward process.

The goal is to get it working in a new compiler. But then it will not work
on the old Compaq Aero 1500 units which are still quite popular.

I understand that it is frustrating that it can't be set to 18000 feet. But
you can disable the warning.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde

"Andy" > wrote in message
...
On Jun 16, 7:32 am, "Paul Remde" > wrote:

> I am currently looking for a good soaring pilot / software programmer that
> can help me move Glide Navigator II from the antique compiler used in the
> past to a current compiler.


I understand that a current compiler may be required to develop GNII
for more recent operating systems and hardware platforms but it is not
required for making minor changes to the code being run on current
operating systems and platforms.

Why can't the antique complier be run on an antique computer and the
constant "15000" be changed to 50000?

I still have a DOS based 80286 machine. If that is antique enough
send me the source code, the compiler, and a copy of the compiler
documentation. I don't even need you to put the files on 5 1/4 inch
discs as I can transfer them with my antique parallel interface ZIP
drive.

Andy

[Andy[_1_]]

On Jun 16, 10:00*am, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
> I understand that it is frustrating that it can't be set to 18000 feet. *But
> you can disable the warning.

I just found that it is possible to set MAX ALT to 18,000ft using the
pop up keyboard. After exiting the menus and then returning to MAX ALT
setting, the value 17999 was displayed. 50000 was also enterable and
was displayed as 50000 on returning to the menu. (Don't touch the up/
down buttons though or the display will immediately revert to 15000.
Use OK to exit and retain the keyboard entered value.

It will be interesting to see if the warning is now based on the
displayed altitude or whether 15,000ft is still used.

The problem that the warning disables the user interface will still be
there though but, if the warning is based on 18,000, the priority
should be to descend below the alert altitude before attempting any
other GNII input.


Andy

[johngalloway[_2_]]

On 16 June, 15:32, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
.........
>
> I am currently looking for a good soaring pilot / software programmer that
> can help me move Glide Navigator II from the antique compiler used in the
> past to a current compiler. *It is my understanding that a lot of work is
> required to do that. *Once that is done it will be much easier to get small
> improvements made. *It would then also run well on iPAQ hx4700 and 210 PDAs.
> It may even be possible in the long run to make it work on an iPAQ 310 and
> Bendix King AV8OR and other PNAs. *But those are long term goals only at
> this point. *Please contact me if you are a software programmer looking for
> a low paying (share of profit) job working on GN II.
>

Paul,

I am puzzled - GN11 already works perfectly well on the Ipaq hx4700 -
better than the on the 1550 in my experience

John Galloway

[Rick Culbertson]

On Jun 15, 8:20*pm, Andy > wrote:
> As implemented in the latest version the maximum value of Max Altitude
> is limited to 15,000ft which is not useful in SW USA. *It should be
> obvious to anyone that the limit should be setable at least as high as
> 18,000ft. *In fact there is no reason for any hard limit at all as the
> pilot may fly in a wave window.
>
> Anyone using GNII at R9 Parowan should be sure to turn off this
> warning. *Not only is the warning useless it takes up screen area and
> prevents access to the normal user interface until the glider descends
> below 15,000 ft.
>
> I nearly threw the damn thing out of the window while flying above
> 15,000 ft at Springerville, AZ last weekend.
>
> Perhaps if enough users complain about this there just might be a new
> release with a fix. *I tried hard to get it changed several years ago
> but was ignored.
>
> Andy

Hi Andy,
I take it your fairly new to the GNll?, I've been racing with GNll for
years and I never use that function, as you said no reason to and
really no problem, just turn it off.

I’m sure you know this already, but a friendly reminder at Parowan or
any SSA contest, per the rules, 17,499 is your height limit. We always
seem to have a 1/2 dozen or so disgruntled pilots learn this one
during the first few days of Parowan each year, myself included.

See you in a couple of weeks at R-9, (pray for good weather)
21

[Paul Remde]

Hi John,

As I mention on my web site. The hx4700 (I own one) seems to work fine for
several hours, then it locks up. Mine runs for 8 hours and then locks up.
Some customers have reported lock ups in 3 or so hours. My iPAQ 210 locks
up after 2 or 3 hours.

GN II still works GREAT on Compaq Aero 1520, 1530, 1550, iPAQ h3600, h3700,
h3800, h3900, h5000, h2200, hx2000 Pocket PCs.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"johngalloway" > wrote in message
...
On 16 June, 15:32, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
.........
>
> I am currently looking for a good soaring pilot / software programmer that
> can help me move Glide Navigator II from the antique compiler used in the
> past to a current compiler. It is my understanding that a lot of work is
> required to do that. Once that is done it will be much easier to get small
> improvements made. It would then also run well on iPAQ hx4700 and 210
> PDAs.
> It may even be possible in the long run to make it work on an iPAQ 310 and
> Bendix King AV8OR and other PNAs. But those are long term goals only at
> this point. Please contact me if you are a software programmer looking for
> a low paying (share of profit) job working on GN II.
>

Paul,

I am puzzled - GN11 already works perfectly well on the Ipaq hx4700 -
better than the on the 1550 in my experience

John Galloway

[Andy[_1_]]

On Jun 16, 1:52*pm, Rick Culbertson > wrote:
>
> Hi Andy,
> I take it your fairly new to the GNll?, I've been racing with GNll for
> years and I never use that function, as you said no reason to and
> really no problem, just turn it off.

Hi Rick,

No, not new to GNII. In fact I was using it (and the previous
Cambridge provided version) long before there was a Max Alt alert
implemented. It is because I had extensive interaction with the
designer during the development of GN that I am so frustrated that the
software was abandoned before all the know bugs were fixed.

Andy

[ContestID67[_2_]]

I have been using GNII on an IPAQ 2215 (2210) without any lockups.

As to abandoning the software. I am disappointed also but no software
is ever bug free and all software is abandoned at some time. I
believe that the developer has moved on to work on the ClearNav
software, correct?

Paul - Maybe I don't understand the compiler issue but if someone has
"antique" computer hardware/OS, and can get ahold of the old compiler
software, then they should be able to support GNII. You say that the
compiler is no longer being sold. But doesn't someone have a copy of
the compiler's install disks and documentation (might all be on the
web somewhere)? Couldn't that be part of the deal for someone to
support GNII? While it may be tedious, Andy is willing to give it a
go.

My $0.02.

- John DeRosa

[Andy[_1_]]

On Jun 17, 1:47*pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:

> But my goal is to make GN II work on new PDAs and PNAs using a current
> compiler environment.


I doubt I would have any interest in a GNII version that did not run
on the Aero. There are far more capable programs for the hi power,
low visibilty, devices.

Andy