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Paul Remde

June 30th 09, 03:13 AM

Hi,

I have been doing a lot of playing with my iPAQ 310 and SeeYou Mobile for
PNA. Somehow the unit is now in a mode in which I can't turn it off so that
it stays off while connected to the wall charger. Every time I turn it off
it turns itself right back on. If I disconnect it from the wall charger I
can turn it off and it stays off. I want to be able to charge the unit with
the unit turned off - to preserve the life of the backlight as much as
possible.

I don't think the unit did this when it was new. I have a customer's iPAQ
310 in hand and it will stay off while connected to a wall charger.

I must have adjusted some power setting, but I can't seem to figure it out.
The only thing I've installed is the screen rotate driver and SeeYou Mobile
on the SD card.

The issue occurs regardless of whether the unit is in SeeYou Mobile / WinCE
mode, or the street navigation mode.

I have rebooted the unit several times (soft reset) but I don't think there
is any way to do a hard reset. I tried removing the main battery for a few
seconds while the unit was turned on an that didn't help,.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

My next thing to try is to take the main battery out and leave it out
overnight.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde

sisu1a

June 30th 09, 03:31 AM

On Jun 29, 7:13*pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been doing a lot of playing with my iPAQ 310 and SeeYou Mobile for
> PNA. *Somehow the unit is now in a mode in which I can't turn it off so that
> it stays off while connected to the wall charger. *Every time I turn it off
> it turns itself right back on. *If I disconnect it from the wall charger I
> can turn it off and it stays off. *I want to be able to charge the unit with
> the unit turned off - to preserve the life of the backlight as much as
> possible.
>
> I don't think the unit did this when it was new. *I have a customer's iPAQ
> 310 in hand and it will stay off while connected to a wall charger.
>
> I must have adjusted some power setting, but I can't seem to figure it out.

brianDG303[_2_]

June 30th 09, 04:35 AM

Hi Paul,
if you like, try the following:

Press the wheel , push the reset button, you will see the RUU MODE
screen but do not release the wheel, keep the wheel pressed for at
least ten seconds until the engineering mode comes up.

Use extreme caution, you can brick the device by selecting the wrong
entry.

Select menu item #10.

I don't know if this is a "hard reset" but it will rebuild the
registry which maybe is close enough.

By the way, I use a dedicated stand alone trickle charger that I think
gives me a longer battery life, HP part # HSTNH-F02G. I got it from
http://fixyourpda.com/ and an extra HP310 as well. One of the best
online transactions I have had.

Brian

On Jun 29, 7:13*pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been doing a lot of playing with my iPAQ 310 and SeeYou Mobile for
> PNA. *Somehow the unit is now in a mode in which I can't turn it off so that
> it stays off while connected to the wall charger. *Every time I turn it off
> it turns itself right back on. *If I disconnect it from the wall charger I
> can turn it off and it stays off. *I want to be able to charge the unit with
> the unit turned off - to preserve the life of the backlight as much as
> possible.
>
> I don't think the unit did this when it was new. *I have a customer's iPAQ
> 310 in hand and it will stay off while connected to a wall charger.
>
> I must have adjusted some power setting, but I can't seem to figure it out.

Mark628CA

June 30th 09, 04:36 AM

Paul-

I have had geat success turning off almost all electronic devices
through the application of percussive maintenance. Simply accelerate
your electronic device towards a somewhat higher mass than the device
itself and allow deceleration to reset the aforesaid device to an
inert state.

Rebooting may be troublesome after the application of this method. Do
not neglect gathering all of the subsets of the device and
repositioning them properly before attempting a reboot.

Mark M.

Dave Nadler

June 30th 09, 05:52 AM

Chris Reed[_2_]

June 30th 09, 11:44 AM

I recently had a problem with my IPAQ 3950 rebooting itself at random
intervals, and thus losing my XCSoar installation.

Online searches suggested this might be because of battery failure, so I
installed a new battery (equivalent of US$15 via eBay). It's working
fine now.

Worth trying?

Paul Remde wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been doing a lot of playing with my iPAQ 310 and SeeYou Mobile
> for PNA. Somehow the unit is now in a mode in which I can't turn it off
> so that it stays off while connected to the wall charger. Every time I
> turn it off it turns itself right back on. If I disconnect it from the
> wall charger I can turn it off and it stays off. I want to be able to
> charge the unit with the unit turned off - to preserve the life of the
> backlight as much as possible.
>
> I don't think the unit did this when it was new. I have a customer's
> iPAQ 310 in hand and it will stay off while connected to a wall charger.
>
> I must have adjusted some power setting, but I can't seem to figure it
> out. The only thing I've installed is the screen rotate driver and
> SeeYou Mobile on the SD card.
>
> The issue occurs regardless of whether the unit is in SeeYou Mobile /
> WinCE mode, or the street navigation mode.
>
> I have rebooted the unit several times (soft reset) but I don't think
> there is any way to do a hard reset. I tried removing the main battery
> for a few seconds while the unit was turned on an that didn't help,.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>
> My next thing to try is to take the main battery out and leave it out
> overnight.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Paul Remde

Paul Remde

June 30th 09, 04:30 PM

Hi,

Thanks for the tips everyone.

It is working fine now. I'm not sure if the fix was from leaving the
battery out of the unit overnight, or from selecting "Suspend" from the
start menu. I can now turn it on and off using the on/off button and it
stays off even while connected to the wall charger.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde

"Paul Remde" > wrote in message
...
> Hi,
>
> I have been doing a lot of playing with my iPAQ 310 and SeeYou Mobile for
> PNA. Somehow the unit is now in a mode in which I can't turn it off so
> that it stays off while connected to the wall charger. Every time I turn
> it off it turns itself right back on. If I disconnect it from the wall
> charger I can turn it off and it stays off. I want to be able to charge
> the unit with the unit turned off - to preserve the life of the backlight
> as much as possible.
>
> I don't think the unit did this when it was new. I have a customer's iPAQ
> 310 in hand and it will stay off while connected to a wall charger.
>
> I must have adjusted some power setting, but I can't seem to figure it
> out. The only thing I've installed is the screen rotate driver and SeeYou
> Mobile on the SD card.
>
> The issue occurs regardless of whether the unit is in SeeYou Mobile /
> WinCE mode, or the street navigation mode.
>
> I have rebooted the unit several times (soft reset) but I don't think
> there is any way to do a hard reset. I tried removing the main battery
> for a few seconds while the unit was turned on an that didn't help,.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>
> My next thing to try is to take the main battery out and leave it out
> overnight.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Paul Remde

Paul Remde

July 4th 09, 06:08 PM

Hi,

This is the most strange thing I've seen with a PDA or PNA. The unit is
again in the mode where it can't be shut off. It does shut off, but turns
back on all by itself about 3 seconds after it is turned off. This occurs
only when connected to the unit's wall charger. In my note below I stated
that the solution to the problem could have been using the "Suspend" option
from the start menu. That does not work, so I must assume that the solution
was leaving the battery out of the unit overnight without it being connected
to external power. I'll try that again after I go soaring tomorrow.

Has anyone else seen this?

Best Regards,

Paul Remde

"Paul Remde" > wrote in message
...
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the tips everyone.
>
> It is working fine now. I'm not sure if the fix was from leaving the
> battery out of the unit overnight, or from selecting "Suspend" from the
> start menu. I can now turn it on and off using the on/off button and it
> stays off even while connected to the wall charger.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Paul Remde
>
> "Paul Remde" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have been doing a lot of playing with my iPAQ 310 and SeeYou Mobile for
>> PNA. Somehow the unit is now in a mode in which I can't turn it off so
>> that it stays off while connected to the wall charger. Every time I turn
>> it off it turns itself right back on. If I disconnect it from the wall
>> charger I can turn it off and it stays off. I want to be able to charge
>> the unit with the unit turned off - to preserve the life of the backlight
>> as much as possible.
>>
>> I don't think the unit did this when it was new. I have a customer's
>> iPAQ 310 in hand and it will stay off while connected to a wall charger.
>>
>> I must have adjusted some power setting, but I can't seem to figure it
>> out. The only thing I've installed is the screen rotate driver and SeeYou
>> Mobile on the SD card.
>>
>> The issue occurs regardless of whether the unit is in SeeYou Mobile /
>> WinCE mode, or the street navigation mode.
>>
>> I have rebooted the unit several times (soft reset) but I don't think
>> there is any way to do a hard reset. I tried removing the main battery
>> for a few seconds while the unit was turned on an that didn't help,.
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>>
>> My next thing to try is to take the main battery out and leave it out
>> overnight.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Paul Remde
>

Dave Nadler

July 4th 09, 08:16 PM

On Jul 4, 10:08*am, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is the most strange thing I've seen with a PDA or PNA. *The unit is
> again in the mode where it can't be shut off. *It does shut off, but turns
> back on all by itself about 3 seconds after it is turned off. *This occurs
> only when connected to the unit's wall charger. *In my note below I stated
> that the solution to the problem could have been using the "Suspend" option
> from the start menu. *That does not work, so I must assume that the solution
> was leaving the battery out of the unit overnight without it being connected
> to external power. *I'll try that again after I go soaring tomorrow.
>
> Has anyone else seen this?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Paul Remde
>
> "Paul Remde" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Hi,
>
> > Thanks for the tips everyone.
>
> > It is working fine now. *I'm not sure if the fix was from leaving the
> > battery out of the unit overnight, or from selecting "Suspend" from the
> > start menu. *I can now turn it on and off using the on/off button and it
> > stays off even while connected to the wall charger.
>
> > Best Regards,
>
> > Paul Remde
>
> > "Paul Remde" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Hi,
>
> >> I have been doing a lot of playing with my iPAQ 310 and SeeYou Mobile for
> >> PNA. *Somehow the unit is now in a mode in which I can't turn it off so
> >> that it stays off while connected to the wall charger. *Every time I turn
> >> it off it turns itself right back on. *If I disconnect it from the wall
> >> charger I can turn it off and it stays off. *I want to be able to charge
> >> the unit with the unit turned off - to preserve the life of the backlight
> >> as much as possible.
>
> >> I don't think the unit did this when it was new. *I have a customer's
> >> iPAQ 310 in hand and it will stay off while connected to a wall charger.

PCool

July 7th 09, 06:30 PM

I have reprogrammed the backlight system for HP310/2/4/6 in the XCSoar
package I am supporting.
So I know how it works, since I can control the beast automatically.
I think that for some reason you have spoiled the registry of Windows CE.
The question is: does the automatic switch on occurs also when you are
running the native Oasis car navigation software?
I mean you start the device in car navigation mode, plug it in for charging,
and then press the key to switch it off.

What software have you run that potentially could have caused this problem?
Do you have any software for flying that attempts to set backlight or power
system?
I warn people: there is NO standard way of managing backlight on windows ce,
so either the programmers have done it correctly for the 310 PNA or they may
have simply spoiled your registry and results are unpredictable.

paolo

"Paul Remde" > ha scritto nel messaggio
...
> Hi,
>
> This is the most strange thing I've seen with a PDA or PNA. The unit is
> again in the mode where it can't be shut off. It does shut off, but turns
> back on all by itself about 3 seconds after it is turned off. This occurs
> only when connected to the unit's wall charger. In my note below I stated
> that the solution to the problem could have been using the "Suspend"
> option from the start menu. That does not work, so I must assume that the
> solution was leaving the battery out of the unit overnight without it
> being connected to external power. I'll try that again after I go soaring
> tomorrow.
>
> Has anyone else seen this?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Paul Remde
>
> "Paul Remde" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for the tips everyone.
>>
>> It is working fine now. I'm not sure if the fix was from leaving the
>> battery out of the unit overnight, or from selecting "Suspend" from the
>> start menu. I can now turn it on and off using the on/off button and it
>> stays off even while connected to the wall charger.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Paul Remde
>>
>> "Paul Remde" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have been doing a lot of playing with my iPAQ 310 and SeeYou Mobile
>>> for PNA. Somehow the unit is now in a mode in which I can't turn it off
>>> so that it stays off while connected to the wall charger. Every time I
>>> turn it off it turns itself right back on. If I disconnect it from the
>>> wall charger I can turn it off and it stays off. I want to be able to
>>> charge the unit with the unit turned off - to preserve the life of the
>>> backlight as much as possible.
>>>
>>> I don't think the unit did this when it was new. I have a customer's
>>> iPAQ 310 in hand and it will stay off while connected to a wall charger.
>>>
>>> I must have adjusted some power setting, but I can't seem to figure it
>>> out. The only thing I've installed is the screen rotate driver and
>>> SeeYou Mobile on the SD card.
>>>
>>> The issue occurs regardless of whether the unit is in SeeYou Mobile /
>>> WinCE mode, or the street navigation mode.
>>>
>>> I have rebooted the unit several times (soft reset) but I don't think
>>> there is any way to do a hard reset. I tried removing the main battery
>>> for a few seconds while the unit was turned on an that didn't help,.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>>>
>>> My next thing to try is to take the main battery out and leave it out
>>> overnight.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Paul Remde
>>
>

Paul Remde

July 8th 09, 06:03 PM

Hi Paolo,

Thanks for the note.

When in street navigation mode the unit stays off when I power it off. So
that way it will be possible to have it on the charger with the screen off -
which is great. But when in the Windows CE shell it turns itself back on
after I turn it off.

The only software programs I've installed (on the SD card) are SeeYou Mobile
and the screen rotate utility. My guess is that the screen rotate utility
is the culprit.

Below you mention the backlight a bit. I have the backlight working fine.

Thanks for the suggestions,

Paul Remde

"PCool" > wrote in message
...
>I have reprogrammed the backlight system for HP310/2/4/6 in the XCSoar
>package I am supporting.
> So I know how it works, since I can control the beast automatically.
> I think that for some reason you have spoiled the registry of Windows CE.
> The question is: does the automatic switch on occurs also when you are
> running the native Oasis car navigation software?
> I mean you start the device in car navigation mode, plug it in for
> charging, and then press the key to switch it off.
>
> What software have you run that potentially could have caused this
> problem?
> Do you have any software for flying that attempts to set backlight or
> power system?
> I warn people: there is NO standard way of managing backlight on windows
> ce, so either the programmers have done it correctly for the 310 PNA or
> they may have simply spoiled your registry and results are unpredictable.
>
> paolo
>
>
> "Paul Remde" > ha scritto nel messaggio
> ...
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is the most strange thing I've seen with a PDA or PNA. The unit is
>> again in the mode where it can't be shut off. It does shut off, but
>> turns back on all by itself about 3 seconds after it is turned off. This
>> occurs only when connected to the unit's wall charger. In my note below
>> I stated that the solution to the problem could have been using the
>> "Suspend" option from the start menu. That does not work, so I must
>> assume that the solution was leaving the battery out of the unit
>> overnight without it being connected to external power. I'll try that
>> again after I go soaring tomorrow.
>>
>> Has anyone else seen this?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Paul Remde
>>
>> "Paul Remde" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the tips everyone.
>>>
>>> It is working fine now. I'm not sure if the fix was from leaving the
>>> battery out of the unit overnight, or from selecting "Suspend" from the
>>> start menu. I can now turn it on and off using the on/off button and it
>>> stays off even while connected to the wall charger.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Paul Remde
>>>
>>> "Paul Remde" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have been doing a lot of playing with my iPAQ 310 and SeeYou Mobile
>>>> for PNA. Somehow the unit is now in a mode in which I can't turn it
>>>> off so that it stays off while connected to the wall charger. Every
>>>> time I turn it off it turns itself right back on. If I disconnect it
>>>> from the wall charger I can turn it off and it stays off. I want to be
>>>> able to charge the unit with the unit turned off - to preserve the life
>>>> of the backlight as much as possible.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think the unit did this when it was new. I have a customer's
>>>> iPAQ 310 in hand and it will stay off while connected to a wall
>>>> charger.
>>>>
>>>> I must have adjusted some power setting, but I can't seem to figure it
>>>> out. The only thing I've installed is the screen rotate driver and
>>>> SeeYou Mobile on the SD card.
>>>>
>>>> The issue occurs regardless of whether the unit is in SeeYou Mobile /
>>>> WinCE mode, or the street navigation mode.
>>>>
>>>> I have rebooted the unit several times (soft reset) but I don't think
>>>> there is any way to do a hard reset. I tried removing the main battery
>>>> for a few seconds while the unit was turned on an that didn't help,.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> My next thing to try is to take the main battery out and leave it out
>>>> overnight.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Paul Remde
>>>
>>
>

PCool

July 10th 09, 11:14 AM

Hi Paul

I mention backlight because its setting is mixed up with power schemes,
particularly in your Ipaq 310.
So your ipaq has got nothing else than a faulty software that is spoiling
the registry.
It is very easy to fix, just look on gpspassion for a copy of the registry.

paolo

"Paul Remde" > ha scritto nel messaggio
...
> Hi Paolo,
>
> Thanks for the note.
>
> When in street navigation mode the unit stays off when I power it off. So
> that way it will be possible to have it on the charger with the screen
> off - which is great. But when in the Windows CE shell it turns itself
> back on after I turn it off.
>
> The only software programs I've installed (on the SD card) are SeeYou
> Mobile and the screen rotate utility. My guess is that the screen rotate
> utility is the culprit.
>
> Below you mention the backlight a bit. I have the backlight working fine.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions,
>
> Paul Remde
>
> "PCool" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I have reprogrammed the backlight system for HP310/2/4/6 in the XCSoar
>>package I am supporting.
>> So I know how it works, since I can control the beast automatically.
>> I think that for some reason you have spoiled the registry of Windows CE.
>> The question is: does the automatic switch on occurs also when you are
>> running the native Oasis car navigation software?
>> I mean you start the device in car navigation mode, plug it in for
>> charging, and then press the key to switch it off.
>>
>> What software have you run that potentially could have caused this
>> problem?
>> Do you have any software for flying that attempts to set backlight or
>> power system?
>> I warn people: there is NO standard way of managing backlight on windows
>> ce, so either the programmers have done it correctly for the 310 PNA or
>> they may have simply spoiled your registry and results are unpredictable.
>>
>> paolo
>>
>>
>> "Paul Remde" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>> ...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This is the most strange thing I've seen with a PDA or PNA. The unit is
>>> again in the mode where it can't be shut off. It does shut off, but
>>> turns back on all by itself about 3 seconds after it is turned off.
>>> This occurs only when connected to the unit's wall charger. In my note
>>> below I stated that the solution to the problem could have been using
>>> the "Suspend" option from the start menu. That does not work, so I must
>>> assume that the solution was leaving the battery out of the unit
>>> overnight without it being connected to external power. I'll try that
>>> again after I go soaring tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else seen this?
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Paul Remde
>>>
>>> "Paul Remde" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the tips everyone.
>>>>
>>>> It is working fine now. I'm not sure if the fix was from leaving the
>>>> battery out of the unit overnight, or from selecting "Suspend" from the
>>>> start menu. I can now turn it on and off using the on/off button and
>>>> it stays off even while connected to the wall charger.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Paul Remde
>>>>
>>>> "Paul Remde" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been doing a lot of playing with my iPAQ 310 and SeeYou Mobile
>>>>> for PNA. Somehow the unit is now in a mode in which I can't turn it
>>>>> off so that it stays off while connected to the wall charger. Every
>>>>> time I turn it off it turns itself right back on. If I disconnect it
>>>>> from the wall charger I can turn it off and it stays off. I want to
>>>>> be able to charge the unit with the unit turned off - to preserve the
>>>>> life of the backlight as much as possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think the unit did this when it was new. I have a customer's
>>>>> iPAQ 310 in hand and it will stay off while connected to a wall
>>>>> charger.
>>>>>
>>>>> I must have adjusted some power setting, but I can't seem to figure it
>>>>> out. The only thing I've installed is the screen rotate driver and
>>>>> SeeYou Mobile on the SD card.
>>>>>
>>>>> The issue occurs regardless of whether the unit is in SeeYou Mobile /
>>>>> WinCE mode, or the street navigation mode.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have rebooted the unit several times (soft reset) but I don't think
>>>>> there is any way to do a hard reset. I tried removing the main
>>>>> battery for a few seconds while the unit was turned on an that didn't
>>>>> help,.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>> My next thing to try is to take the main battery out and leave it out
>>>>> overnight.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul Remde
>>>>
>>>
>>
>