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Steve Koerner
August 26th 09, 02:33 AM
Within my club there is some controversary surrounding the question of
whether or not there might exist precedent for moving an ongoing
contest to an airport other than the airport that had been originally
intended. Whereas it is not resonable to take the entirity of our
little club issue to this world audience, it would be most helpful if
anyone aware of such a happening could cite the occasion. Most
particularly, the case where a competition director might have decided
to move a contest to another airport due to some aspect of weather
forecast or occurrance would be of greatest interest. The question
relates to club contests or sanctioned contests. Thanks in advance!

Udo
August 26th 09, 03:16 AM
On Aug 25, 9:33*pm, Steve Koerner > wrote:
> Within my club there is some controversary surrounding the question of
> whether or not there might exist precedent for moving an ongoing
> contest to an airport other than the airport that had been originally
> intended. * Whereas it is not resonable to take the entirity of our
> little club issue to this world audience, it would be most helpful if
> anyone aware of such a happening could cite the occasion. * Most
> particularly, the case where a competition director might have decided
> to move a contest to another airport due to some aspect of weather
> forecast or occurrance would be of greatest interest. *The question
> relates to club contests or sanctioned contests. *Thanks in advance!

the 1990 Canadian Nat's about 25 to 30 contestant, from Starbuck,
soutwest of Winnipeg to Brandon Manitoba. The move was seccessful as
it moved the contest site just west of the prevailing jet stream.
Udo

Tuno
August 26th 09, 03:42 AM
The question is a little bit more than whether the contest is just
moved -- it includes whether it is done by the CD alone, without
consultation with or approval from the CM and/or sanctioning
authority, and without knowledge of the participating pilots (think
waking up at 8am and finding out by accident you're launching at a
different airport). Those are important and relevant details.

-ted/2NO

kids' writer
August 26th 09, 01:11 PM
On Aug 25, 8:33*pm, Steve Koerner > wrote:
> Within my club there is some controversary surrounding the question of
> whether or not there might exist precedent for moving an ongoing
> contest to an airport other than the airport that had been originally
> intended.

This is an interesting idea for perpetually weather-challenged eastern
US contests. There usually is somewhere in a 150 mile range where it's
flyable, and 24 hour weather forecasts have gotten much better in the
last few decades. Rather than sit in the rain, we could prearrange
with 4 or 5 airports, then announce at say 6 pm "we're going to
Mifflin tomorrow, grid time 12:00"

John Cochrane

Dave Nadler
August 26th 09, 01:20 PM
On Aug 25, 9:33*pm, Steve Koerner > wrote:
> Within my club there is some controversary surrounding the question of
> whether or not there might exist precedent for moving an ongoing
> contest to an airport other than the airport that had been originally
> intended. * Whereas it is not resonable to take the entirity of our
> little club issue to this world audience, it would be most helpful if
> anyone aware of such a happening could cite the occasion. * Most
> particularly, the case where a competition director might have decided
> to move a contest to another airport due to some aspect of weather
> forecast or occurrance would be of greatest interest. *The question
> relates to club contests or sanctioned contests. *Thanks in advance!

The "Return to Kitty Hawk" contest moved almost every day,
with straight-out tasks to the next site !

Of course, some claimed this happened due to the pronounced
fear of triangles by one of the main organizers, who many years
ago was ecstatic about his first ever day win, until it was discovered
that he had traversed the course backwards...

See ya, Dave

Glenn Betzoldt
August 26th 09, 02:24 PM
On Aug 26, 8:20*am, Dave Nadler > wrote:
> On Aug 25, 9:33*pm, Steve Koerner > wrote:
>
> > Within my club there is some controversary surrounding the question of
> > whether or not there might exist precedent for moving an ongoing
> > contest to an airport other than the airport that had been originally
> > intended. * Whereas it is not resonable to take the entirity of our
> > little club issue to this world audience, it would be most helpful if
> > anyone aware of such a happening could cite the occasion. * Most
> > particularly, the case where a competition director might have decided
> > to move a contest to another airport due to some aspect of weather
> > forecast or occurrance would be of greatest interest. *The question
> > relates to club contests or sanctioned contests. *Thanks in advance!
>
> The "Return to Kitty Hawk" contest moved almost every day,
> with straight-out tasks to the next site !
>
> Of course, some claimed this happened due to the pronounced
> fear of triangles by one of the main organizers, who many years
> ago was ecstatic about his first ever day win, until it was discovered
> that he had traversed the course backwards...
>
> See ya, Dave

Hey we do this all the time to race iceboats, if the weather goes bad
pick up and move to a new venue.
With sailplanes it would be no big deal to move, the ship is already
in a trailer, your camping or in a hotel so thats not a problem and
the tugs can fly to the new and inproved
airport. With cell phones, internet and satellites finding good
weather should not be a problem.

Glenn
DN 5172 Renegade 499

Mike the Strike
August 26th 09, 04:16 PM
The controversy arose in this case because the announcement was made
at 7:00 AM on Sunday morning to move the contest to an airport three
hours drive away from the one where most contestants were already
rigged and preparing to fly in an unofficial scratch contest (having
believed the original one to be canceled). This was also not the
airport where the contest had been already been scheduled. Some only
checked the website around 8:00 AM, making it physically impossible
for them to make the 10:30 pilots meeting.

Two contestants (including the one who made the change) flew at the
newly designated site and want their thousand points! Many others
think this is rather unfair, since only these two out of fifteen
contestants made the hastily changed venue.

Some of us don't really care, but are enjoying watching the tussle!

Mike

Mario[_2_]
August 26th 09, 07:29 PM
A number of years ago we had a situation occur where we had excessive
rain in April and May and we were worried that our clay soil and grass
would be unusable for our annual spring contest at Avenal. We decided
that we needed to fly off of a paved runway so we went and talked
with the airport manager of the large, new, and unused, municipal
airport 16 miles to the north of us. He was very helpful and setup
everything for our use of the airport. He also stated that he would be
out of town that weekend but his assistant, who we had not met, would
be available to assist us.

The practice days went well and we were all settling in with the new
field. However, early in the morning of the first contest day the
assistant manager introduced himself and proceeded to tell us we could
not use the field the way we had set it up for the contest. We knew
now it was unworkable and we could not convince him of the fact. He
then drove off.

Fortunately for us, our weatherman had stopped at Avenal and told us
that field was drying out faster than expected and would be O.K. by
the afternoon. We then switched the finish of our task, planned for
the day, to Avenal. The crews and volunteers worked marvelously and
moved cars, motor-homes, trailers, and equipment back to Avenal and
were setup before we finished the task. They also took great delight
in making sure nothing was left behind to suggest we where even at the
airport.

The assistant manager was shocked to find the airport vacant, and was
put in a bind, the following Monday, trying to explain why we had
left.

August 27th 09, 11:57 PM
The 2006 Region 3 Contest in Glens Falls, NY after being kicked out.
The last day was flown in Saratoga Springs.

Tim



On Aug 25, 9:33*pm, Steve Koerner > wrote:
> Within my club there is some controversary surrounding the question of
> whether or not there might exist precedent for moving an ongoing
> contest to an airport other than the airport that had been originally
> intended. * Whereas it is not resonable to take the entirity of our
> little club issue to this world audience, it would be most helpful if
> anyone aware of such a happening could cite the occasion. * Most
> particularly, the case where a competition director might have decided
> to move a contest to another airport due to some aspect of weather
> forecast or occurrance would be of greatest interest. *The question
> relates to club contests or sanctioned contests. *Thanks in advance!

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